@@ShayTheValiant Yeah but Mystical fire it's signature move is the main reason why it even needed a wand otherwise it should've just use it's mouth to use Mystical fire in the past generations
@@RoySmith22and at least they kept the original water shuriken animation unlike the other starters signature moves having its own animation taken away
@@RoySmith22 well you’re actually right, I haven’t thought about it because I never use water shuriken on my greninja but it looks pretty good, maybe in the next games the budget goes to battle animations
Actually, the model still has the stick. It's just that Delphox only takes it out in 2 hyper-specific instances. The first is during the team star base invasion like the other starters, and the other is when it uses the move shadowball and only shadowball. So clearly, there's some absolute weirdness or terrible decisions going on in how GF and Creatures inc. is animating these pokémon because they feel incredibly disjointed and lazy compared to the previous gens.
Seeing Delphox performing moves without wand feels so weird to me. It only use its wand when using shadow ball and only shadow ball. What? Why? I hope an update will fix this. 😢
Soooo guys… Hisuian Samurott has the hidden ability Sharpness which gives a 50% damage boost to both its signature moves: Razor Shell (75) boosted to 112.5 and Ceaseless Edge (65) boosted to 97.5 plus the “spikes” damage… and both moves are Stab boosted as well
To be fair, it also says _signature references_ meaning the original reference of their signature moves. Though of course I'd argue that Eruption shouldn't technically be considered Typhlosion's signature move since it first started as Groudon's, but he's the only starter right now that can learn it regardless.
Anyone else remember that greninja signature move Water shuriken was physical back in X and Y but changed to special when he got a new form a.k.a ash-Greninja
@@nightmarishtaco3434ow thats a damn lie, it was never useless, it was outclassed by shadow sneak in gen 6 due to sneak being a bit stronger than 2 hit shuriken, but shuriken was still used on some sets
It deeply upsets me that protean and battle bond were nerfed. Iam also absolutely LIVID that the spirit shackle animation just has decidueye fly up a little now. It's an ARCHER. The taking aim animation MADE SENSE. And chesnaught making its arms into a shield for spiky shield was so cool. WHY DID THEY REMOVE IT?
@jokechuthey could've simply made it to where tera being active on a pokemon prevents libero or protean to switch it's type Considering all the other absurd power creep in this game like chi-yu, zacian (even after the nerf) and tera ice regieleki ash-greninja wouldn't even be the most broken thing so from a balancing standpoint they could've left it in honestly
@@GWCuby Yeah because Terastallization is a Battle Gimmick instead of a Simple Ability. It has all the right to be broken, its supposed to shape the Metagame around it but Protean is just a stupid Ability some Pokémon got access to which made them so busted. Cinderace and Greninja didn't receive any major nerfs besides Protean and Libero and yet they dropped a few Tiers just because they couldn't instantly counter anything anymore.
Honestly, most of these aren’t an issue. Chesnaught not really making the shield anymore stings, and Delphox not using the wand for its (once) signature move is weird even though it does use it for some other animations. The only thing that is a complete unforgivable travesty here is the way Decidueye no longer gets to use its bow. The complete removal of Ash Greninja sucks, too, but I’ve never cared too much for Greninja either way.
I think the color inversion for the Starter Ultimate Moves (blast burn, hydro cannon, frenzy plant) was what really made them iconic and feel epic. Truly a bummer they didn’t retain that sense in any of the newer games
Seeing these animations just makes me sad man, its really clear that gamefreak is really struggling to make these games on time now but like cmon man, its pokemon cant you figure something out
GF should really give time, cause even with SV and BDSP they were a mess, everyone knew it was a mess, but we still bought them Just give the anime, games, merchandise and cards a year to develop, making it every 4 to 5 years We can wait
I believe the biggest factor is they gave us a free camera in most battles. flashy animations work fine when it's a fixed camera, but not if you're not even looking at the battle anyway, such as shiny tracking, as you would be pulled away from your view which would likely cause graphical issues.
Or they can just give you the ability to toggle between camera styles. For example a free cam that trainer can control and use while moving about that exits battle if you stray too far and the battle cam that focuses on the engaged battle like normal.
i love how gamefreak almost seems offended when you don’t call their games terrible please stop making excuses for them before we get a game that doesn’t have have all gyms at launch
Not true lmao, legends Arceus had an even more free camera and the animations still got stripped down to just the basic attack animation + half the effects Don't try to justify this, there is literally no excuse when they already did it correctly in the literal PREVIOUS GAME
If you search some comparison video, you'll see how switch games sw/sh had several animation downgrades compared to 3ds s/m. So yes, the national dex was indeed a fair trade
Idk why SV still feels like an unfinished game(as of date) how is a past generation game has better animations(for the most part) than the current one? That just wrong,man.
I mean for the animation, I think they changed certain ones so they would be faster, and less disturbing in the open world in SV I guess. But for the unfinished feels of the game, that’s just cause GameFreak don’t know how to properly develope a high quality game with their lack of people, time, and the fact they are working on a full on console rather than handhelds.
@@user-kl6kv7ii5s Yep. Specifically, Nintendo. I'm sure if it were up to GF, they would love to take some more time to polish their games. even three months more would make a difference
@@darklord-uz1rm considering how power creeped to hell this generation is and how Ash-Greninja was fine in Gen 7, I doubt it would be anything close to broken.
Blast-Burn was a massive downgrade. Eruption was actually half-better, half-worse IMO - primarily due to the lack of falling rocks. The beginning of the animation was better, the end not so much. Razor shell was kinda okay - liked the travel time initially but feel the splash effect on the slash should be bigger. Spikey shield's animation was the same, the main difference was that it's no longer got Chesnaut's pokemon specific animation. Mystical fire really didn't feel any different other than being marginally shorter and smaller, though the lack of Delphox's wand in its usage does feel a little odd.. Water Shuriken, like Chesnaut's spikey shield, looks pretty much the same minus the pokemon specific animation that it used to have. Spirit shackle looked better in both gen 8 and gen 7. Losing the custom pokemon specific animation here really hurt IMO. Rillaboom's drum beating isn't that much different, just lacking the root travel time. Losing the little flare of Cinderace's soccer play with Pyroball stings a bit, but the animation still animates him actually kicking the ball, so it's not to bad. Inteleon's snipe-shot really is almost no different. There wasn't much animation there in the first place. Arceus-Decidueye's Triple arrow actually looks **better** in S&V IMO. Arceus-Typhlosion's Infernal Parade looks pretty much identical Arceus-Samurott's Ceaseless edge is a bit of a downgrade - losing the initial dash forward and cross-slash stings a bit here. Here's the thing though - they're actively going out of their way to remove animations - remember, a lot of these were made in such a way to "future-proof" them. So the character specific animations that were lost had to actively not be transported in, which just makes this way sadder.
Can't believe i wanna praise Sword/Shield visuals now... Dear god, what if i end up appreciating Scarlet/Violet visuals once the 10th gen comes out? How worse can they get? This is just insanity.
I can maybe forgive them for not having ash greninja in the newer games but to say I'm not all that thrilled that they got rid of Delphoxs stick, decidueyes bow, cinderaces Pyro ball animation, inteleons sniper shot and the other cool animations would be an understatement
They basically destroyed all signature moves after galar(where they improved it but never actually had kalos mons) in sv and they did most dirty to greninja
I felt so angry when they removed Ash-Greninja like what the hell they nerfed greninja so pikachu can still be the most favourite and let greninja get nerfed on purpose
Greninja ya era bueno con la habilidad mutatipo, no necesitaba una forma extra disfrazada de una falsa "mega evolución", mientras los otros iniciales de Kalos quedaban olvidados.
The Hisuian Signature moves just don’t look as cool when the pokemon stays in its spot in SV. Like Samurott’s Ceaseless Edge or Decidueye’s Triple Arrows look so much better because of how they go move up into the opponents face
In fact, it is clear why this is so. From the 6th to the 8th generation, the same Pokemon models were used, so all animations could simply be transferred. In the 9th generation, Pokemon have new models, and it would be difficult to make individually designed animations for everyone.
@@trustme2674well i mean it is an explanation. It’s frustrating and pretty stupid but the commenter’s reasoning is pretty sound logic for why the lack of special animations is the case. Calling them a shill for that is stupid
That doesn't work here, however. Gamefreak largely scaled back the Pokedex to accommodate for being unable to rightly allot for every Pokemon in a game this size. _That_ much is what's understandable. Not doing the due diligence on the Pokemon they _did_ include, especially in what is meant to be their continued push for a proper transition into a big open world Pokemon title, is _not._ I mean, c'mon now. Let's not forget what an unrepentantly broken mess these were on release. Effort wasn't exactly worn on their sleeves.
@@trustme2674 I agree, but Gamefreak has always been famous for the disgusting technical and not only the state of the games. And there is no point in justifying them for this. I just wrote down why the animations degraded. (If there are any mistakes in the text, I apologize, I use a translator)
@@MagnificantSasquatch I believe Creatures Inc. is the one in charge of all animations and models, not Gamefreak. Not sure what exactly point I'm trying to make, but just wanted to correct the fact. Although if Creatures is lazy too that makes 2/3rd of the owners of The Pokemon Company not caring about the quality which makes sense why Nintendo can't force a quality control thing(Also thinking about it 80% of Pokemon revenue comes from merch, and Creatures seems to be more in charge of that than Gamefreak so they have even more incentive to be lazy on the games itself).
My brother was amazed that all the Hisuian starters kept their signature moves relatively untouched. I told him they just copy pasted them from PLA to S/V. Its sad that others weren't so lucky. Regular Decidueye comes to mind with Spirit Shackle or Cinderace with Pyro Ball. Loved both Urshifu forms signature moves as well but now they are but shadows of what they were in Sword and Shield.
it’s not that the games were good it’s that game freak keeps dropping the ball to the point they look impressive people are gonna say the same about gen 9
I find the big difference from SV animation to other games is to be focused on "fast paced battling". If the world and other visual things would be at least good, maybe this would feel more natural. Now it even makes more sense because they brought so many pokemons with signature move, I for myself would not mind these changes after hours of gaming and so many signature animation moves. (Yet the bad pokemon movements animation are so boring, they don't even close eye when they sleep or turn off in the case of the Violet Paradox)
one of the things that I hate that they removed was the hisui decidueye and sammarott how ever you spell it actually walked up towards the opponet and attacked instead of attacking from the distance.
The fact people still complain about these ganes looking bad is astonishing because Game Freak had to re-animate all the pokemon, give them all new textures, while also making a entire map that is free roam all the while needing to code in the special way these games raids work while also texturing everything we see all within a 3 year time limit forced on yhem by the Pokemon Company mind you and given they never had to do these things since gen 6 Id say the game works better then expected.. if this game had longer than 3 years to be created id bet these games would just be the best games we had since gen 5 imo because the story compared to gen 6 onward and gen 3 and bellow this games story is beyond awesome and since they will have most pokemon textured I would bet that when gen 10 comes around the game will be better looking and work properly..
GF should just give everything an extra year to bake, games, cards, mechandise and anime With SV and BDSP they were bad, and we still bought them We can wait, finish your passion project
I wish they could update the Water Shuriken with a twist combination (just like sunny day and solar beam or rising the power of fire moves) imagine using double team and next turn you use water shuriken and it will have a new animation also rising the evasion of Greninja
I’m not going to defend Game Freak, but I also just want to hear Pokémon fans not sound like a bunch of brain dead babies for a single second. One singular second, all I ask.
@luckyowl7772 lol my comment still stands. What high quality animations? Every move animation is a downgrade from the generations they were introduced in or exactly the same.
I think they should give signature moves or exclusive move available in only a select fews movepool like spikey shield, blast burn,pyro ball, mystical fire etc special lil cinematics with the ability to turn off the cinematic animation in the settings
Nah PLA was the beginning of the end honestly. Many animations were extremely simplified from SwSh, and while they made up for it with the Pokémon actually moving around and making physical contact, it’s the reason so many animations are now what they are in S/V.
What is going on with game freak. Why did they cut off the numbers of animation per Pokemon. Where's Chasnaught's arm shield, Delphox rod, or Cunderace good animation for Pyro-Ball? I think if employees are doing a lazy work it's because they want to show us that they don't care anymore about the licence
I can't believe they got rid of Cinderace's Pyro Ball and Inteleon's Snipe Shot animations from Sword and Shield. Those looked so good.
They also took a long time and would be disadvantageous to use in Raids
Not to mention delphox lost it's staff/wand 💅
@@CupcakeCollector It still has the wand, just not in its animation for Mystical Fire.
@@ShayTheValiant Yeah but Mystical fire it's signature move is the main reason why it even needed a wand otherwise it should've just use it's mouth to use Mystical fire in the past generations
Yess😵💫
I feel bad for the Kalos starters and decidueye
I feel bad for Groudon
Least water shuriken looks alright . They upped the animation to look more like ash greninjas shuriken as it's slightly bigger
My boy Chesnaught done dirty.
His big beefy shapechanging arms were a cool touch how they joined together to make a shield, that was the whole point.
@@RoySmith22and at least they kept the original water shuriken animation unlike the other starters signature moves having its own animation taken away
@@RoySmith22 well you’re actually right, I haven’t thought about it because I never use water shuriken on my greninja but it looks pretty good, maybe in the next games the budget goes to battle animations
Delphox doesn't have a stick anymore? Even in following mode? What is he gona poke with? Fingers?
Actually, the model still has the stick. It's just that Delphox only takes it out in 2 hyper-specific instances. The first is during the team star base invasion like the other starters, and the other is when it uses the move shadowball and only shadowball. So clearly, there's some absolute weirdness or terrible decisions going on in how GF and Creatures inc. is animating these pokémon because they feel incredibly disjointed and lazy compared to the previous gens.
Seeing Delphox performing moves without wand feels so weird to me. It only use its wand when using shadow ball and only shadow ball. What? Why? I hope an update will fix this. 😢
@@A-an. Typhlosion also have a ShadowBall-only animation where it stands on 4 legs. Perhaps it's one of the bugs
Soooo guys… Hisuian Samurott has the hidden ability Sharpness which gives a 50% damage boost to both its signature moves: Razor Shell (75) boosted to 112.5 and Ceaseless Edge (65) boosted to 97.5 plus the “spikes” damage… and both moves are Stab boosted as well
Not to mention his move pool is full of slicing moves.
His sacred sword gets boosted to 135 so a stronger close combat with no drawbacks and ignores stat changes.
@@Magmatical dang I must have missed that one, maybe I’ll have to revisit again
@@Magmatical Also the reason why Gallade got the biggest buff this generation imo.
Yeah but Aqua Cutter is better than Razor Shell
Eruption is one of the few that looks amazing revamped.
I really miss seeing the physical contact moves would make in legends arceus, I hope they bring it back next gen
we need another legends game
Think it's due to them both being made around the same time. Different teams, hopefully gen 10.
Honestly I prefer when Pokémon don’t hit other Pokémon physically because it feels like Pokémon more if it ain’t physical
@@Mimikyu-guy No tiene sentido lo que dices
It's horrible how scarlet and violet ruined the best of the characteristic animations of the starters
To make things worse, animations aren't the only thing they ruined.
“It’s horrible how scarlet and violet” are…
@@pulcio2046wow 🙄 if you don’t like the game then r you really a Pokémon fan. Because it seems like to me you r not s real fan
At the same time they fixed blastoise's animation
Ah yes groudon, the starter from the region where legendaries are starters and normal pokemon are legendaries.
Would love a region like that😂
Still trying to find a caterpie..
@@Sam-tl4hoYou have to look in the Virdiniabin Mountain. Lots of darkrai and mewtwo there, but caterpie is a 0.002% encounter
I was looking for this comment xD
To be fair, it also says _signature references_ meaning the original reference of their signature moves. Though of course I'd argue that Eruption shouldn't technically be considered Typhlosion's signature move since it first started as Groudon's, but he's the only starter right now that can learn it regardless.
Anyone else remember that greninja signature move Water shuriken was physical back in X and Y but changed to special when he got a new form a.k.a ash-Greninja
Ohhhh. So THATS why I always thought it was special before...
Yeah and its signature was useless until it became special
@@nightmarishtaco3434ow thats a damn lie, it was never useless, it was outclassed by shadow sneak in gen 6 due to sneak being a bit stronger than 2 hit shuriken, but shuriken was still used on some sets
Me it anooyed me so bad because I mad my grinja a mix atcker for that reason
No idea why it was ever physical
No way they kept the drum for rillaboom but not delphoxs stick?
That's why SV are sucks. They massacred Chestnaught, Delphox, Decidueye and Groudon's signature move. They also gave Regidrago purple Origin Pulse.
LIKE?!!
Dont forget everything good about this game
@@LandonShannon-mz3xg true but like- for some people, it’s the little things that matters and that’s what gives them comfort in this franchise
Yeah but considering this was their first truly open world mainline game give them some rest
It deeply upsets me that protean and battle bond were nerfed. Iam also absolutely LIVID that the spirit shackle animation just has decidueye fly up a little now. It's an ARCHER. The taking aim animation MADE SENSE. And chesnaught making its arms into a shield for spiky shield was so cool. WHY DID THEY REMOVE IT?
They never removed the shielding animation. I’ve actually seen it be used in the move Hammer Arm.
@jokechuthey could've simply made it to where tera being active on a pokemon prevents libero or protean to switch it's type
Considering all the other absurd power creep in this game like chi-yu, zacian (even after the nerf) and tera ice regieleki ash-greninja wouldn't even be the most broken thing so from a balancing standpoint they could've left it in honestly
@@GWCubyThey did to that. If your Protean hasn't activated yet, your Tera will not let that work. Protean was just broken in general
@@pixelpiekser tera is just as broken if not worse and that's apparently completely fine
@@GWCuby Yeah because Terastallization is a Battle Gimmick instead of a Simple Ability. It has all the right to be broken, its supposed to shape the Metagame around it but Protean is just a stupid Ability some Pokémon got access to which made them so busted. Cinderace and Greninja didn't receive any major nerfs besides Protean and Libero and yet they dropped a few Tiers just because they couldn't instantly counter anything anymore.
Pokemon devs try to make a good animation challenge impossible
THEY LOOKS ALL BAD 😵💫 Sword Edition wars better
n-no way.... somebody said Pokemon animations are crap and no GF apologist came in clutch to defend it?! unbelievable
Razor shell still has the best animation in Gen V with that scythe effect
True
Why did they take way the special animations for the starter Pokémon they were so cool.
gamefreak is really good at making us appreciate what we didnt in the past
Honestly, most of these aren’t an issue. Chesnaught not really making the shield anymore stings, and Delphox not using the wand for its (once) signature move is weird even though it does use it for some other animations. The only thing that is a complete unforgivable travesty here is the way Decidueye no longer gets to use its bow. The complete removal of Ash Greninja sucks, too, but I’ve never cared too much for Greninja either way.
Chesnaught still actually uses the shield. It’s just only seen in moves like Hammer Arm for some reason
Everyone apologize to sword and shield rn
With the exception of Eruption (looked awesome), all other moves in Scarlet and Violet are same or worse than previous games.
Infernal parade is such a cool move all the way around
Absolutely love Hisuian Typhlosion.
I think the color inversion for the Starter Ultimate Moves (blast burn, hydro cannon, frenzy plant) was what really made them iconic and feel epic. Truly a bummer they didn’t retain that sense in any of the newer games
Seeing these animations just makes me sad man, its really clear that gamefreak is really struggling to make these games on time now but like cmon man, its pokemon cant you figure something out
GF should really give time, cause even with SV and BDSP they were a mess, everyone knew it was a mess, but we still bought them
Just give the anime, games, merchandise and cards a year to develop, making it every 4 to 5 years
We can wait
Sad that most animation looks better in sword shield. Spirit shackle, snipe shot and pyroball lost their charm in sv
I really liked the story for this game but I'd be lying if I said it didn't fall short on almost everything else
So battle bond greninja no longer transforms, but gets boosted. Yet still gets a different throwing animation
the boost is once per battle
Ah yes, Groudon, my favorite starter.
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I believe the biggest factor is they gave us a free camera in most battles.
flashy animations work fine when it's a fixed camera, but not if you're not even looking at the battle anyway, such as shiny tracking, as you would be pulled away from your view which would likely cause graphical issues.
The free camera is only for wild battles or trainers on routes. Otherwise you cannot move the camera.
@@gigifabulous yes, but why would they have 2 sets of animation for over 700 moves?
Or they can just give you the ability to toggle between camera styles. For example a free cam that trainer can control and use while moving about that exits battle if you stray too far and the battle cam that focuses on the engaged battle like normal.
i love how gamefreak almost seems offended when you don’t call their games terrible please stop making excuses for them before we get a game that doesn’t have have all gyms at launch
Not true lmao, legends Arceus had an even more free camera and the animations still got stripped down to just the basic attack animation + half the effects
Don't try to justify this, there is literally no excuse when they already did it correctly in the literal PREVIOUS GAME
Delphox doesn’t even have its wand anymore😭
If they dont make an update where i can select my battle music in the school tournament im gonna riot
Samurott doesn't draw its shell sword :(((
Delphox doesn't have his wand either
Oh wow, Ceaseless Edge leaves spikes?? learned something new~ XD
Yea which makes Hisui Samurott miles better than Regular samurott.
Now we know what they meant when they said they made better animations for sword and shield instead of national dex
If you search some comparison video, you'll see how switch games sw/sh had several animation downgrades compared to 3ds s/m. So yes, the national dex was indeed a fair trade
Some of these later games seemed to have dipped down in quiality. Some moves look visually improved, but others just look like downgrades.
i’m genuinely curious which moves got visually improved?
Gamefreak and minecraft devs trying not to put the slightest bit of effort into a video game challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Idk why SV still feels like an unfinished game(as of date) how is a past generation game has better animations(for the most part) than the current one? That just wrong,man.
I mean for the animation, I think they changed certain ones so they would be faster, and less disturbing in the open world in SV I guess. But for the unfinished feels of the game, that’s just cause GameFreak don’t know how to properly develope a high quality game with their lack of people, time, and the fact they are working on a full on console rather than handhelds.
Becuase it was a rushed game. GF aren't given the proper time needed to polish their games
@@LuckyOwI777 blame TCP for that.
@@user-kl6kv7ii5s Yep. Specifically, Nintendo. I'm sure if it were up to GF, they would love to take some more time to polish their games. even three months more would make a difference
@@LuckyOwI777 yh
So.... Can we agree now that Sw/Sh had the best battle animation? Cuz S/V did them dirty.
RIP Ash-Greninja, the staff clearly didnt like how overrated that form was so they retconned it in both the games & the anime
yet still cared enough to give it in Pokemon home...
You do know how broken ash greninja would be in this game
@@darklord-uz1rm learn to counter it
@@darklord-uz1rm considering how power creeped to hell this generation is and how Ash-Greninja was fine in Gen 7, I doubt it would be anything close to broken.
To be fair, hard for players to have the same attachment when their Pokemon is literally being named after a different trainer.
Anyone else noticed Maractus to have 566/283 HP at 1:44?
Only after I read this 😂
Is it only me but gen 8 have the most beautiful effect for move and music but still penny theme make me go crazy lmao
Blast-Burn was a massive downgrade.
Eruption was actually half-better, half-worse IMO - primarily due to the lack of falling rocks. The beginning of the animation was better, the end not so much.
Razor shell was kinda okay - liked the travel time initially but feel the splash effect on the slash should be bigger.
Spikey shield's animation was the same, the main difference was that it's no longer got Chesnaut's pokemon specific animation.
Mystical fire really didn't feel any different other than being marginally shorter and smaller, though the lack of Delphox's wand in its usage does feel a little odd..
Water Shuriken, like Chesnaut's spikey shield, looks pretty much the same minus the pokemon specific animation that it used to have.
Spirit shackle looked better in both gen 8 and gen 7. Losing the custom pokemon specific animation here really hurt IMO.
Rillaboom's drum beating isn't that much different, just lacking the root travel time.
Losing the little flare of Cinderace's soccer play with Pyroball stings a bit, but the animation still animates him actually kicking the ball, so it's not to bad.
Inteleon's snipe-shot really is almost no different. There wasn't much animation there in the first place.
Arceus-Decidueye's Triple arrow actually looks **better** in S&V IMO.
Arceus-Typhlosion's Infernal Parade looks pretty much identical
Arceus-Samurott's Ceaseless edge is a bit of a downgrade - losing the initial dash forward and cross-slash stings a bit here.
Here's the thing though - they're actively going out of their way to remove animations - remember, a lot of these were made in such a way to "future-proof" them. So the character specific animations that were lost had to actively not be transported in, which just makes this way sadder.
Can't believe i wanna praise Sword/Shield visuals now...
Dear god, what if i end up appreciating Scarlet/Violet visuals once the 10th gen comes out? How worse can they get? This is just insanity.
I can maybe forgive them for not having ash greninja in the newer games but to say I'm not all that thrilled that they got rid of Delphoxs stick, decidueyes bow, cinderaces Pyro ball animation, inteleons sniper shot and the other cool animations would be an understatement
They basically destroyed all signature moves after galar(where they improved it but never actually had kalos mons) in sv and they did most dirty to greninja
Greninja derseved the nerf.
@@user-kl6kv7ii5s gotta say most would disagree 🙄
I felt so angry when they removed Ash-Greninja like what the hell they nerfed greninja so pikachu can still be the most favourite and let greninja get nerfed on purpose
Greninja ya era bueno con la habilidad mutatipo, no necesitaba una forma extra disfrazada de una falsa "mega evolución", mientras los otros iniciales de Kalos quedaban olvidados.
@@mr.emolgario637 charizard with 2 megas and being a ride pokemon in the gen 7 games
Yeah ofc I definetly remember using Groudon as a starter for sure
Ah yes, Groudon my favourite starter
Sad they got rid of the custom animations :(
It's a real shame they got rid of so many of the animations for the starters' signature moves. I thought they made made the starters extra unique.
Sword and Shield’s animation team really went all out! SV, though… yeah they barely tried
Where are the shield animation for Chesnaught?! This is a shame! Hail the 3DS! 🙏🏼
i dont understand why they made the animations worse for S/V, all they had to do was copypasta.
what a pathetic company
You have to consider that SV don't have disable animations, still, don't justify
@@nickolasperazzo8254 and why did they remove that
@@jimmyjohn6479 Make our life harder? Maybe because of VGC? Who knows
The Hisuian Signature moves just don’t look as cool when the pokemon stays in its spot in SV. Like Samurott’s Ceaseless Edge or Decidueye’s Triple Arrows look so much better because of how they go move up into the opponents face
So... Now Groudon is a starter legendary 😂
More like Typhlosion inherited Eruption from him after Groudon got Precipice Blades
5:58 sniper water shot attack
In fact, it is clear why this is so. From the 6th to the 8th generation, the same Pokemon models were used, so all animations could simply be transferred. In the 9th generation, Pokemon have new models, and it would be difficult to make individually designed animations for everyone.
@@trustme2674 same as ye nintendo haters, ye be ALL ZE SAME.
keep your hating to yourself
@@trustme2674well i mean it is an explanation. It’s frustrating and pretty stupid but the commenter’s reasoning is pretty sound logic for why the lack of special animations is the case. Calling them a shill for that is stupid
That doesn't work here, however.
Gamefreak largely scaled back the Pokedex to accommodate for being unable to rightly allot for every Pokemon in a game this size. _That_ much is what's understandable. Not doing the due diligence on the Pokemon they _did_ include, especially in what is meant to be their continued push for a proper transition into a big open world Pokemon title, is _not._
I mean, c'mon now. Let's not forget what an unrepentantly broken mess these were on release. Effort wasn't exactly worn on their sleeves.
@@trustme2674 I agree, but Gamefreak has always been famous for the disgusting technical and not only the state of the games. And there is no point in justifying them for this. I just wrote down why the animations degraded. (If there are any mistakes in the text, I apologize, I use a translator)
@@MagnificantSasquatch I believe Creatures Inc. is the one in charge of all animations and models, not Gamefreak. Not sure what exactly point I'm trying to make, but just wanted to correct the fact. Although if Creatures is lazy too that makes 2/3rd of the owners of The Pokemon Company not caring about the quality which makes sense why Nintendo can't force a quality control thing(Also thinking about it 80% of Pokemon revenue comes from merch, and Creatures seems to be more in charge of that than Gamefreak so they have even more incentive to be lazy on the games itself).
EVERYTHING WAS NERFED! 😢
1:38 SPIKY SHELL DEFEND!?!
This hurts to watch. Especially from Cinderace
I can't believe that I'm saying this, but sword and shield look so much better than scarlet and violet
Umm really sword and shield r not good scarlet and violet is better then sword and shield and you won’t change my opinion
I was today years old when I found out Accelgor can learn Water Shuriken! And apparently it’s been able to learn Water Shuriken since Gen 6 ORAS
As the saying goes, “Two steps forward, three steps back.”
My brother was amazed that all the Hisuian starters kept their signature moves relatively untouched. I told him they just copy pasted them from PLA to S/V. Its sad that others weren't so lucky. Regular Decidueye comes to mind with Spirit Shackle or Cinderace with Pyro Ball. Loved both Urshifu forms signature moves as well but now they are but shadows of what they were in Sword and Shield.
Wild how people were hating on Sword and Shield looks, but the art direction is so much better than Scarlet and Violet’s. Legends Arceus looks amazing
it’s not that the games were good it’s that game freak keeps dropping the ball to the point they look impressive people are gonna say the same about gen 9
It's what happens when you look back while going down, everything you see will be relatively high compared to where you are now
@@jimmyjohn6479just you wait until part two of the dlc and change your mind
@@Thatgirljesi11yeah now we gotta wait until part 2? game been out for a year man nothings saving it
@@jimmyjohn6479 oh yes it real
Where's Delphox wand ? 2:37
PBR's Eruption, SM Spirit Shackle, and SwSh Snipe Shot will always be the best.
I find the big difference from SV animation to other games is to be focused on "fast paced battling". If the world and other visual things would be at least good, maybe this would feel more natural. Now it even makes more sense because they brought so many pokemons with signature move, I for myself would not mind these changes after hours of gaming and so many signature animation moves. (Yet the bad pokemon movements animation are so boring, they don't even close eye when they sleep or turn off in the case of the Violet Paradox)
Why not just give the option to turn off animations like literally every other game in the series does?
Gamefreak did Greninja's Battle Bond dirty in Scarlet & Violet
They murdered everything lmao
Spirit shackle got absolutely slaughtered 😭
that deciduee is an absolute crime
they really did dirty to decidueye, greninja battle bond form, inteleon, cinderace signature moves
one of the things that I hate that they removed was the hisui decidueye and sammarott how ever you spell it actually walked up towards the opponet and attacked instead of attacking from the distance.
1:07 SLASH WILL MU SHELL
The fact people still complain about these ganes looking bad is astonishing because Game Freak had to re-animate all the pokemon, give them all new textures, while also making a entire map that is free roam all the while needing to code in the special way these games raids work while also texturing everything we see all within a 3 year time limit forced on yhem by the Pokemon Company mind you and given they never had to do these things since gen 6 Id say the game works better then expected..
if this game had longer than 3 years to be created id bet these games would just be the best games we had since gen 5 imo because the story compared to gen 6 onward and gen 3 and bellow this games story is beyond awesome and since they will have most pokemon textured I would bet that when gen 10 comes around the game will be better looking and work properly..
RIP Ash-Greninja
Ah yes, Groudon… my favorite starter
Bruh, the Kalos Started and ESPECIALLY Cinderace got done dirty.
Rip good signature move animations they only last the games they where introduced in so sad
GF should just give everything an extra year to bake, games, cards, mechandise and anime
With SV and BDSP they were bad, and we still bought them
We can wait, finish your passion project
The quality of the moves get worse every new generation comes
I wish they could update the Water Shuriken with a twist combination (just like sunny day and solar beam or rising the power of fire moves) imagine using double team and next turn you use water shuriken and it will have a new animation also rising the evasion of Greninja
I’m not going to defend Game Freak, but I also just want to hear Pokémon fans not sound like a bunch of brain dead babies for a single second. One singular second, all I ask.
Infernal Parade: a starter version of Hex as they both have 3× base power if its stab against a status ailmented target.
2:45 WATER SHURIKEN ATTACK
Are the Elemental Hyper Beams in SV? I could have sworn they weren't
Tm's now
Find them as Tms somewhere and you can make more if you have enough materials.
How can I change the music in the Ace Tounament? Or is an edit?
like, it's so underwhelming lol
remember when they said "high quality animations"
Yeah...that means for the whole game. Every animation. Not just move animations. And lots of move animations look really good
@luckyowl7772 lol my comment still stands. What high quality animations? Every move animation is a downgrade from the generations they were introduced in or exactly the same.
@@sonic-bb comparing swsh graphics to other gens made me realize GF was right after all
@@LuckyOwI777 most of the game isn’t even animated
Watched only a bit but clearly that first arcanine has the Intimidate ability and not flash fire
I love how they made a single game compatible for ash greninja
I think they should give signature moves or exclusive move available in only a select fews movepool like spikey shield, blast burn,pyro ball, mystical fire etc special lil cinematics with the ability to turn off the cinematic animation in the settings
Not even showing Typhlosion using its own signature move.
Prev gens: 😎
Gen 8: OMG THATIS SOOO COOL
Gen 9: WHAT THE FUK IS THIS SHIT?!?!
Greninja's weater shuriken I remember was my favorite move, now it's disgusting
"It will sell well anyways"
1:44 What’s uh….What’s going on with that Hp bar there?
I’m mad there’s no more cool animations for the moves in S/V
Very disappointing that it took one game to ruin the starters from other Pokemon games
Offtopic if i remember correctly retaliate had the coolest animation in gen 6(ORAS)
ah yes, groudon my favourite starter
The battle animations in PLA is the best the series has ever seen. Its a damn shame that GF went backwards.
Nah PLA was the beginning of the end honestly. Many animations were extremely simplified from SwSh, and while they made up for it with the Pokémon actually moving around and making physical contact, it’s the reason so many animations are now what they are in S/V.
What is going on with game freak. Why did they cut off the numbers of animation per Pokemon. Where's Chasnaught's arm shield, Delphox rod, or Cunderace good animation for Pyro-Ball? I think if employees are doing a lazy work it's because they want to show us that they don't care anymore about the licence