In-Camera Effects Using Different Frame Rates
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That car shot was really impressive. I didn't know smaller frame rates could have that effect.
The lip syncing/dancing was AWESOMEly entertaining! Good job guys!
Props to Josh for such a tight sync at 48 FPS. I know I would have found that tough to do so well.
I was a photographer but I've been into videography since about 1 year now.. and it's sooooo much harder. Lighting is very important, microphone quality (boom mic for films etc etc), color grading, good actors etc etc. But It's so much fun if you do it with the right people! 😁
Since about?
@@totallybored5526 for about* since around* ... english is not my main language 😅
I remember watching the video from The Police, "Wrapped Around Your Finger," where it's Sting seemingly moving in slow motion while singing in time with the song. It was really mind-blowing when it hit you what was going on. Great use of overcranking and playing with time perception, way back in 1983!
I learn more in 1 video here than a year in university.
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@@nikvianna1740when you have been watching film riot for over 10 years, you learn a lot, so every new video introduces a new advanced technique, first year at university is covering basic stuff like, camera angles, movement, lighting.
That’s because you don’t pay attention. So why don’t you quit university and stop sucking the learning and enjoyment of the university for everyone around you
Best filmmaking tips on youtube! I've learned so much from you guys over the years. Thank you for existing.
I’ve been watching these two geniuses since 2010 or so. FANTASTIC content. Exceptional content creators.
Mostly I’ve enjoyed watching remarkable team develop over the last decade and a half.
Outstanding, guys.
Really love this. You guys are always providing the best hands-on practical insight. Thanks FilmRiot!
This isn’t practical if you was in the room with them and you had equipment and they walked you through it, that would be practical. Watching a video is passive
I don't understand your issue. The tutorial they posted is easy to replicate yourself. It indeed needs a minimum knowledge of handling a camera. If you don't have this, there are tons of other tutorials to even learn that from scratch. If that does not help, you should attend a filmmaking class. IMO youtube is an amazing source of knowledge. I learned so much from here and it is for free@@totallybored5526
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FilmRiot always gives me the feeling that I’ve acquired a new tool/skill to add to my “creative arsenal”. This episode, like all the others, was fantastic!
Words I never thought I’d say, but... I thoroughly enjoyed watching Justin work it.
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This is something I've always wondered about and you guys made it so clear. Awesome as usual!
This was awesome thanks so much for so many examples along with visual comparisons! 💚
The arguing scene is very reminiscent of a Guy Ritchie film.
Very informative video guys!
The music video clip ya’ll did had me cracking up!
Woah. This was such a cool video! Thanks for showing how awesome just a change in framerate can alter the entire experience of a video. SO COOL!
Great video as always, Film Riot 👍👊👊
Thanks so much for the amazing tips. We're big fans!
Thanks for the reminder about undercranking! It's a tool that I completely forget was in the bag.
Great episode guys! Learned a lot from this one 🙌
I swear you guys, always know how to release an episode, when a brother is struggling creatively. I love you guys. *tear*
music video idea is really great, definitely gonna try it out :D
Man, this is mind blowing
Hell yes. Your videos are so good. They were good before but now they are "Soo good!"
This is something very new I learned today, keep it up.
Great video and tests!!!
Whoa. This is so cool!
Not gonna lie, I haven't ever figured out how this effect was done properly, and this whole thing just made my day
Very Informative... especially the car speeding idea
this is actually really cool!
Amazing stuff!
Prime tips!! Great video. 👏🏾💯
learned so much from this video!
Awesome info, brother!
Very cool!
oh man, excellent video, need some more on this, i been filming for a while but i never got into this part of it. interesting
Great episode
If you ever watch "Little Shop of Horrors" from 1986, all the shots with the giant plant are undercranked to speed up the plant's movements. They had to use (at the time) cutting edge pitch shifting technology on Levi Stubbs' vocals to slow them down but still have them be intelligible. Any time you see Rick Moranis or Ellen Green interacting with the plant they're miming and lip-syncing at 1/2-2/3 normal speed.
9:01 😮 wow! Well done
Where ya been hidin’ this one, Ryan?! So good! So so GOOD!
in 6.00 about you Double car speed but also double speed of the flag in background and looks pretty fun on the wind:)
Does anyone know the frame rate setting for the glitching head shot 8:59 pls I've been wanting to create something like this 🙏
Dope!
The under-cranking, sped up later, ended up being a common uncanny ghostly effect used a lot in the early 2000s. I know Stir of Echoes did it, but I think a couple others too. Really effective.
So they are speeding it back up in post? Was wondering why the 12fps car shot wasn’t jittery if it was shot in 12fps
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Can you make a video on camera angles we can use to make our short film look like movies by using phone ❤
you make me feel cranked
I love The music video 😂😂😂😂😂😂 thanks great vídeo thanks alot 🙏🏾
Would love to see more in depth tutorial in this under and overcranking shoot
Interesting... I can certainly use this for my project. It was funny too.
There so many fun and creative uses to this technique. :)
Ryan! Love love love this video. At the 9 minute mark, did you just slow the framerate down for that shot and speed it up further in post??? I want to replicate it but am slightly confused on how it's so jumpy
3:32 Reminds me of the close-up on Brad Pitt in Fight Club when he speaks to the camera and it's like the film roll flickers.
Ryan, Serious question here. When is Andrew Kramer film ever going to be released? You guys got everyone excited about this and then it was never talked about again. Thanks
We talked about a few times after. And have address that it's not happening on the show more than once as well. Like often happens with indie productions, Andrew went very ambitious with it and in the end, it didn't work out.
It's a bummer, but we still got two fun films out of epic summer.
@@filmriot oh okay, I try follow a lot of the episodes but I guess I missed it over the years. Thanks for the update.
This is great, another technique to check out is Travis Scott's step printing effect. With a hand held shot following the main subject you get a disoriented feel.
I don’t do video, but after watching this, I really want to 😂😮😊. Nice work and explaining. 🤙🏽. Subb’d
recognizing that canon menu. HELL YEA
What consumer cameras let you shoot custom frame rates like that? I wish my gh5s did
I shot a chase scene at street legal speed by using a combination of under-cranking and mounting the on-car camera as close to the ground as possible to great effect.
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Your videos are always a masterclass crash course! Thanks for making them❤🙌 Watched this video 5 times in a row to understand the math... that's how bad I am at maths🤣 But I still have a doubt- at @5:40 when you are shifting to 12 FPS from 24 FPS you say "...but if we 'over-crank' now...". But slowing down the framerates would mean 'under-cranking' right? What am I missing here🤔?
Very cool. However I can't change my film rates like this on my Canon R7. But these tricks are cool
The undercranking topic is not only super interesting but also reminds me of that awfully boring Denzel Washington movie called "Unstoppable". I love the actor, the presentation is sadly bad though. Maybe hightening up the suspense by using undercranking would have done the trick? =)
I remember "Crank" felt like using that technique but I might fail on that. 😋
Good talk, Im going to try this for a few things. Oooh my fancy Sony A7S III only goes as low at 24 fps. I'm selling it!
I can do on my iPhone 😊 if you watch Tony Scotts film Domino with Keira Knightley it’s filmed at 12 or 18 frames a second it gives it that fantastic blurry motion look
Oh wait, I forgot. In Sony cameras, S&Q mode, (A7SIII) gives FPS of 1/2/4/8/15/30/60/120/240. I remember some people use S&Q for time lapse. Gonna try it now.
so do you shoot it at 20fps say and drop that shot in your 24fps workflow/sequence?
I Wonder if these would work in a digital setting, for like a CG camera
Interesting question. Which I have no idea to. I'd think it would as i would assume the principles would translate. But that's beyond my expertise.
yes, the principles do translate
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I was always taught that over/undercranking was about shutter speed, not frame rate? For example staying at 24fps, but shooting at 1/60 or higher instead of the standard 1/48 to reduce motion blur and make the shot feel more frantic (like in Saving Private Ryan)
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Are there any digital cameras out there which allow you to change frame rate while recording?
Mad Max Fury Road was sped up in post though
Blender user here with a quick question. Would I run my blender frames at 20 or 22 and then in post in premier run the frames at the normal 24? For the sped up effect
Now I wonder if the frame rate can be hacked using a plug-in the editor. Shoot at 30fps, and pluck out every 3rd frame?
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2:40 hi, can i ask something please? can i put 22fps shot and 24fps shot onto the same timeline in powerdirector?
Can the Sony A73 and Fx3 shoot at 20fps?
can this be done with prosumer level cameras?
Forbidden Planet how did they do the melting krell door?
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Most budget dslrs can't be undercranked to 22fps😢
So what happens to the production audio when it's trying to being sync'd with timecode. Timecode can't be set to off speed frame rates. What's the standard practice?
Do you adjust the shutter speed to double the frame rate creating a sped up feel
I leave the shutter on 180 degrees so the camera does the shifts in shutter for me.
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Sorry but,I don’t understand how do you set the camera to record less than 24fps?My sony a7siii doesn’t have that.I am confused.
Does anyone else find them selves singing Logo randomly while watching F.R. videos ? 😂
I really enjoy this channel, but it was pretty apparent that greater than half the content was pushing the "Producer" application SUUUPER hyper wildin' wicky-wacky hardcore. I understand why, but... zounds and wow! :O
What to do when your camera doesn't have an option to shoot at 20 or 22 fps?
Love the video, although felt off by the times u started talking about a sponsor in the middle of talking about the undercranking. little complaint, otherwise, awesome vid.
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Any thoughts between Producer & Assemble that might make you use one over the other?
Hi Ryan, I would say the main difference is the approach of visualizing a project. Both are certainly very powerful tools. PRODUCER with the predefined ProFlow workflow aims at visualizing the overall production process, whereas Assemble is centered around the Calendar view. There are also lots of smaller differences between the tools that you will discover when trying them out. As we offer a free plan, I recommend to give PRODUCER a shot and find out for yourself which approach works best with your personal working style (BTW we are going to add a calendar view of a project in one of the next upgrades, so that you have a choice what you prefer). Happy producing! 🙌
thank you! I'll check it out@@producermakermachina
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I wonder how undercranking in-camera compares to just using a slightly longer shutter speed (i.e., more than 180 degrees). In your video, the fight scene shot at 24fps and then speed up in post looks unnatural because the motion blur no is no longer 180 degree shutter. So what if instead of 1/48s, you shoot it at say 1/40s,-baking in more motion blur, knowing you’re going to speed it up? I ask because non-cinema cameras (like the Canon R5) don’t give granular control over FPS, but obviously do allow manual exposure.
Maybe I'm a dummy but what camera films in 22, 20, or even 18 frames per second? I've only seen 24, 30, 60 and maybe 120!
8:12 is it actually your number?
Haha. No. Just dummy numbers to show producer off.
@@filmriot Oh okay;)
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I didn't like the car shot, the license plate was too blurry!