Joe Rogan Smacks Up Milo Yiannopoulos On Religion
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2015
- A comedian and a gay conservative Christian journalist got into an explosive feud over the latter’s sexuality.
Breitbart columnist Milo Yiannopoulos appeared Wednesday on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, where the duo bashed feminists, the left, and so-called “social justice warriors” in a mostly friendly conversation. Things became heated, however, after Yiannopoulos brought up his religious beliefs...
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Milo looks like one of those higher class privileged characters from the hunger games movies
connor bitch woulda lived at the Capitol
Aaahahahahhah lol
Who's stuck in 1980's attire and hair style.
Dressing up like a senator from Krypton
Commonly known as Fops!
Dude lookin like an anime lawyer
OBJECTION! NANI!
Which one milo or the guy making fun of him
Joe Rogan looks like he could kill Satan with one punch
Jay Bauer
Definitely the other guy, probably from the round pale shiny face and big eyes
Fenix Wright: Christian values
What about Japan? I spent time in Tokyo - much safer than any western city. The people are far more respectful - where is their Christian values?
But they still have religious values. All religions teach You Morals, just atheism doesnt.
@@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 shifting the goalposts.
hsdjsd shdhsdnsmsd you don’t have to rely on religion for morals. Implying so shows a low iq.
@@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 Obviously atheism doesnt teach anything as it's not a belief system. Atheists recognise that as all religions think they are "right" and all others wrong - they must all be wrong. Every human being knows what is right and wrong - religious dogma is not required.
America, Mexico, and Brazil are some of the most Christian nations on Earth and have ridiculous crimes rates.
So much for those good ol' Judeo-Christian values.
So many dislikes on this video, i assume from milo fans
Or religious zealots
It’s sad they think it actually means anything. Every like and dislike just makes more people watch it as it alters the algorithms.
Home of Metal I’d say they are a lot more happy than Americans
The Pedo-Brigade.
Lucas C there are milo fans?
Am I the only one that is sensing some deep rooted issues in Milo
Yaseen Akkad Yes
Cole Gorry It's like he's trying to prove himself to 'something', maybe it's god himself?
***** I think he's just trying to convey his points, but I digress. I'm not great at reading people
Cole Gorry I sense some deep dissatisfaction when he speaks tbh
Milo is an Atheist in denial.
Joe Rogan crushed him because superstitious religious nonsense is the weakest aspect of Milo's belief system.
As a Christian, I'm agreeing. However, that aspect of what a person believes is probably the hardest part for anyone to prove. Feminist wage gap BS? Easy to prove. How the world came into being? Well, shoot. Wasn't there to see it.
Milo crushed himself
Preetttty much.
@Carlos Sanchez: Dang, you saw that? What was it like? How did the dinosaurs go extinct? Do you get some kind of multiplicative senior discount?
@Carlos Sanchez: Please reread my original comment. I'm not supporting any side. I'm saying the origins of the world is not something we can observe. Geeze, Milo's right about how easily you all take offense.
We had a Judeo-Christian period that lasted for almost 1000 years and I remember from history that the period was called "Dark Ages"
Gee I wonder why
It was called the dark ages because the people in Renaissance Italy were full of themselves more than anything. They thought they had seen the light, hence they called the past the Dark ages, seperating them and the clever Greeks.
@@suckieduckie and they were right. Compare atnique Rome and Greece and middle age Europe. I think I know where I would prefer to live 😂
@@DV-xu7ps That entirely depends on what part of the Middle ages you refer to, what social class, and what location. The higher classes of cities like Venice and Genoa were living in circumstances that might even surpass the richest Romans in quality of life. Antwerpen, Gent and Brussel are other examples of thriving cities with great quality of life around 1300, which is still considered the Middle Ages. I agree though that there were very few places in the early Middel Ages that were better to live in than their Roman predecessors. Don't forget though that the vast majority of people living in every age till about 1900 had a shit life for todays standard, excluding maybe the Dutch Golden Age that had a remarkably large middle class for her time.
@@suckieduckie any proof for that? That the higher class of Venice and Genoa lived better than even than richest Romans?
Rome was an empire that spanned across 3 continents, their colonies provided some of the most luxurious import and their architects and artists were unparalleled. I doubt that small merchant republics had anything near that. Even a well trained roman legion could squash unorganized medieval armies.
But that is not the point, the point is the life, rights and opportunities that average person had back in those days. You could argue that life in North Korea is better than in Norway solely due to ruling caste living a better lifestyle, or that Emirates are better than European countries due to Sheikhs being obscenely rich!?
Try thinking a bit next time
@@DV-xu7ps Try thinking a bit next time? You are the one comapring appels and oranges. Obviously we should compare the higher social classes of Rome with the higher social classes of another place. You do the same for other social classes and that's exactly what I argued and what you failed to do with a generalising statement that basically amounted to "everyone in the Roman empire (you fail to specify in what era) had a better life than everyone in the middle ages (once again fail to specify era, let alone class, location etc)".
My reasoning for my argument is this. Genoa en Venice were trading with the Middle-East as an extension of the silk route. This gave them incredible wealth, but more importantly sparked the renaissance because it introduced them to knowledge of the Greeks and Romans that was lost in the west and perfected in the east, combined with new insights in the fields of medicine, astronomy and mathematics. Tools like the compass made their way to the west like this. The network of Venice and Genoa stretched all the way to China, so the 'most luxorious import' the Romans enjoyed was even better for these rich cities. Life expectancy was better for the upper class than it was in the Roman Empire, mostly due to child mortality. Highborn Romans were also plagued by genetic diseases and lead poisening due to the way they transported wine.
The biggest difference however is that the middle class in cities were much, much richer and bigger than their Roman counterparts.
You also use very broad statements like the entire Roman Empire is a uniform state where quality of life is the same everywhere. As you so cleverly pointed out, the empire was very big. What are the odds that the quality of life are the same everywhere? The circumstances I name above were only present in the most wealthy European cities, and in the Roman Empire most likely only in Alexandria, Rome, and Byzantium.
When it comes to the oppertunities that everyday people had. The Romans had slavery. Lots of oppertunities for those people. They had a massive social class called plebejers that litteraly meant 'those with no posession'. They had nothing but their family name. Rome was also a military state, so if you like dying in a war that's fine, but I would much rather be a merchant.
So next time, instead of insulting me, try thinking a bit.
Buddhism isn’t morally or ethically or compassionately based? Mhmm ok sweetie
Well it's produced some pretty shit systems.
Otto Pike All beliefs have had good and bad things.
Otto Pike ah yes Christianity has a great record when it comes to “systems” lmaoo
@@tylernelson4901 um, compared to everything else... Yeah. Arguably the type of secularism that came out of the enlightenment is better, but that probably only came about because of Catholicism's emphasis on specificity in dogma and conversation through argumentation and education.
@@ottopike6000 lol no they dont guy there has been more killed in the name of the father then another guy stop
Wait, what? That's not self-loathing. Most people would choose to be smarter or more attractive if they could be; that doesn't mean they hate themselves as they are now.
Exactly
I agree that the use of that term is a massive exaggeration. Milo was just saying that he doesn't like one aspect of himself. However, I think Joe overreacted because being a homosexual should not be something that anyone should feel ashamed of. Straight people aren't "better" than gay people. They are treated better in society, but that shows the moral failings of society, not gay people. Milo saying that he would take a pill to become straight makes complete sense because he would be generally treated better in society. However, him saying that he would take the pill to become a better person isn't correct and is the wrong message to send out in my opinion.
***** ....Have you really thought this through? If you could take a pill that'd safely grant you an extra 10 IQ points, would you? And if you say yes, does that mean you hate your current level of intelligence?
+John Burton Milo is provacateur, he says shit to rattle the interviewer. He knows it will set off their sensibilities. He manages to turn the table on them.
+John Burton He said if he could choose, he wouldn't be one. That's inherently based on how culture treats them though, not based on any legitimacy in terms of morality. Also, improving from one "moral code" to "another" is wholly dissimilar to tangible improvements in IQ points for instance. It's not a fair comparison.
I wonder how he'd do in an ultra-Christian African country, such as Uganda
OutOfNamesToChoose So fucking true.
The massive difference is that European cultures, and as an extension of that American culture, have been influenced by christianity since the 5th century. You can argue that the morals and values of this havn't had a good influence, but you can't argue that it didn't have any influence. When it comes to Uganda it has only had christianity for about 200 years. It is hard to pin down what part of Uganda culture should be attributed to christianity and what part to older traditions.
He would drop his panties and start sucking them off
He wouldnt know de wey
Name a mainly non Christian country you'd rather live in than the countries that were established on Christian morals. ..so no America no UK and yes, no India (English Christian colony)
Milo isn't even convincing when he says these things. He doesn't believe the garbage coming out of his mouth.
It's his fans who keep sucking him off, And the dumb 18-yo SJWs who he keeps debating make him look like Noam Chomsky or shit.
Sure he does. If you're an athiest who believes in objective morality, you're contradicting yourself
@@cabbey09 morality is subjective, but can be objective in the context of being relative to survival
@@ultra-chad4951 not really. who says survival is objectively good?
@@cabbey09 I didn’t say that. I said something can only be objective if it’s in relation to something else.
I wish Joe had brought up famous Brittish mathmetician Alan Turing and how he was treated by the Christians of his day.
I always enjoy Milo, but he looked like a cornered cat here. Sputtering out nonsensical garbage fully knowing he looked like a child caught in the act.
+Stephen Valentine Oh, but here's the cookie: He measures superiority of a culture by values of that culture. There are no objective values. No matter how advanced economy, science etc. are, no matter whether a country is a democracy or not, you can't say it's superior because of that, because it's only superior in that aspect, but you have to set a value system to determine which aspects matter. So, for example, a fundamentalist Muslim may prefer to live in a country where gays are stoned, which is poor and war-ridden than in the West because of his specific subjective set of values. In the same way, Milo is using Christian values to determine worth of Christian countries/cultures.
I agree on self-loathing point. Some go on to claim that being straight shouldn't be superior to being gay and that we just live in a society that's flawed, but I disagree with that too. All the power to you if you're gay, but being straight just gives you more opportunities, such as having a loving marriage with someone sexually attracted to you and bearing a child with your own genes, while still being able to opt out of it if you don't like the idea. Gays aren't asked if they like it or not, they just can't have it. Not to mention the fact that overwhelming majority of people are straight, so it's way more difficult for gay people to find adequate partners. It's also pretty convenient to have a complementary set of sex organs. A straight person can have anything a gay can have in their sexual life and more. There's simply more options for you biologically, even with a society which perfectly caters to gays. Not to mention a society that doesn't, like what we have.
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***** Not in this video, but in others he said it's objectively better because it produces best results.
***** What part of me explicitly stating that I'm quoting Milo and talking about his opinions did you miss?
***** I'm an idiot who was answering sleep deprived and thought it was directed at me. Sorry.
I don't think anybody can take a "Gay conservative Christian" seriously...
+Deathvoid I take a gay conservative Christian as seriously as I take Caitlyn Jenner seriously, so not very seriously.
ad hom
+Deathvoid absolutely NOT! .... Yiannopoulos is a FUCKING IDIOT1
+Deathvoid read the novel Brideshead Revisited if you think Milo being a conservative is something extraordinary and new. Jesus was not a Marxist.
+Deathvoid
Not sure why you shoved the word conservative in there. "Gay Christianity" is not a thing. Gays that think their Christian God will put them anywhere but hell are lying to themselves, or are not Christians.
Milo then: If I could not be gay, I would.
Milo now: Lies about not being gay.
Right wingers got recommended this video I can tell by the dislikes.
Has nothing to do with right or left my dude.
I wouldn’t say nothing. But I also wouldn’t say that the dislikes exclusively comes from Right Wingers
Ha Ha Ha, @Ender so right my friend.
Are you assuming that right wingers are dumb and would just hit the dislike button and left wingers would just hit the like button? Brotha, the ratio is close bc ppl got actual opinions. Am I right wing? No. Don’t be Naive homie 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Ender and because its a democratic channel. Every right wings comment are deleded....Gid bless the lefty freedom ✌️
How come Scandinavia, finland and iceland count as one of the best places to live according to multiple studies? They also happen to be the most secular and liberal nations on earth.
Sweden is the rape capital of the world now, thanks to open borders.
Liz Selwyn beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/?ref=www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile
Read this, they are not.
Jon Tvedt Better? If hedonism is what you are all about then yes, that is the best place to live!
well Finland is technically a Christian nation in its constitution. Although that may change in the near future.
ive heard that South East Asian(thailand, myanmar, etc) is great too. . .due to buddhism. . . granted they are third world countries but also JAPAN is a great place to live and they are primarily buddist and shinto practitioners.
I hate when this guy comes up. I keep forgetting he exists. He ruins videos.
+Gary Keenan How? Just watch the original video.
+Smosh2 "our brand new channel please subscribe..." Wow, you're pathetic.
Vincent R Lol, it's a inside joke.
Smosh2 Ha. Ha... Haaaaa
Vincent R Homerun.
I wish Rogan was still like this
Yup... Maybe he need a book to tell him what's right and wrong?.. I know I don't
We all need this. But some of us admit it and some of us Fool themselves.
It's not the book, the broader point is that objective morality requires an objective source, that source is what many call God. This is inherently religious in nature.
@@vladivanov5500 yes I understand that. My comment was just a simplyfied way of getting the point across.
Even your basic human rights is a biblical idea of how we are created in the image of God
"I'm gay so you can't criticize me"
more like straight
fucking hell, he is constantly fighting the rape card (which i agree should be fought) and he uses his sexuality to not give an argument about it, and im saying this as a gay southamerican male
Pretty good, because you conservatives wind up looking way worse than the rest of us for treating Milo like a person with something worthwhile to say.
Yes I can you are talking shit
Gotta love identity politics.
How about the Christian Central American countries that are some of the most dangerous and impoverished places in the world?
+Dylan Chow
Those Central American countries always enter the top 10 list of most dangerous countries like Nicaragua and Honduras.
+Dylan Chow Africa as well.
***** Ethiopia is not a Christian state majority though.
+Dylan Chow Greece is over 90% Christian and they have over 20% unemployment rate and a facist political party on the rise.
+Informal Fallacy Tsiripas is a facist?
Joe Rohan lowkey gave Milo a lecture on 2:03
Honestly I’m just surprised which how much better the production quality has gotten over the years
I've always considered Milo to be the female Ann Coulter
Wait.. What..? Ann Coulter is female 🤔 really 🤔
Lol milo is way more radical in comparison. Ann just supports trump and receives hate from the left in return lmao
@@Guthred11 Ann is supporting trump.last i heard of her was trump trashing her on his twitter
hammond clarkson in comparison to milo she shines in my opinion haha
@@Guthred11 just barely lol
Honestly, Milo makes valid points on his Feminism debates. However, when it comes to religion, I feel like he's no different than those feminists he deeply hates. Sorry Milo, but I think you should keep your religious beliefs and hypocritical opinions out of these debates. Stick to feminism and gay rights... you know, the stuff that actually matters in this day and age.
He is very poor at arguing for Christianity and it is an irrelevant topic, but not religion as a whole, we see Islam having a big impact still.
Milo is saying being gay is a sin and if he can stop sinning he'll be a better person. But a nitwit can see thru that.
I agree, I've grown to love Milo over his intellectual comments against feminism. However, he acts just as illogical when talking about religion. How can you claim to be a man of proof and facts and then proclaim that atheists are in the wrong?
wollf92 And it is not even the fact that he disagrees with atheists, but his arguments for Christianity are as ridiculous as the arguments from big names with Kent Hovind, Josh Feuerstein and others.
ok dingus. Milo won this debate. Watch the whole thing.
I think Mylo got caught between public persona and Joes authentic question.
He’s literally worming in his seat trying to maintain his poker face.
i like how joe gets mad about milo trying to talk while hes talking but then talks all over milo when hes trying to answer. lol
Fuck I love Joe. Might rub one out now.
Fuck that's one of the best comments I've read lmfao
+Keksi right, because you know this person is a drug addict. Just shut the fuck up you ignorant nutbar
Keksi a*
+Keksi I wasn't talking about Rogan, I was talking about the poster of this comment you called a drug addict, someone you've never met. What backwards part of the world are you from, moron. I'm usually quite polite, but I keep seeing you post stupid stuff
+paul lynch ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Milo: "I'd rather be straight, if I could."
Also Milo: "I *made* myself gay. I was straight, but I made myself attracted to other men."
Pure white lie. Homosexuals are born that way
skinsrulez1997 lol. A gay gene? So when I have a kid the doctor can tell me their gender and sexuality? Lol
+hootjohnson
way to go lady gaga LOOL born this way my ass :D
+Miti 66
When you know how the mind works you will laugh at the comment you wrote :D
Miti 66 the problem isn't being in the LGBTQ+ "community" is the fact it's a COMMUNITY. If you are gay, then you like men. That's it, you don't need to start a whole group of people to raid straight people. If you are in the "community" then stay there, don't spread it. THATS what's wrong.
DR. BLUE Lies. That’s about dominance, fool.
Damn this dude straight up disemboweled Milo's arguments
"Is this the book you want to base society on?" After this sentnce i understood this man's life.
Milo lucked into getting taken seriously by all these podcasts and big RUclips channels, and joe was the only one who really stood up to his flimsy, wannabe provocative faux intellectual posturing, AND he had the guts and emotional honesty to nail him right where he lives in terms of this glaring contradiction.
I don't think he's pseudo intellectual, but this seems to be the sad truth.
DarkeTribute this is part of why i love joe rogan.. similar to his brendan schaub moment.
Tell me a single culture that stems from Islam that is better than a western culture that stems from Christianity.
Jack White the whole thing is fallacious. western culture stems from the enlightenment that reformed religion, separated church and state, ended monarchical power and started to move us gradually in the direction of democracy.
in other words, western culture flourished in spite of christianity, not because of it -and more explicitly by overcoming christian tyranny.
the judaeo-christian legacy is as blood thirsty, superstitious and oppressive as anything in the islamic world, but was reformed and defanged by secularism.
liberal western values are not sourced from any religion but from reason and critical thinking and an intuition that everyone should have equal rights and dignity -which by definition is a step away from royalty and priestly classes claiming authority over the masses in the name of god.
the fallacy is that morality comes from any religion. religious morality is uniformly outdated, old world, narrow minded, superstitious nonsense, that happens to have a good idea here or there amongst the bigoted, murderous, ass-backward pronouncements, punishments and "sins."
the reason the islamic world is such a disaster right now is not at all because they are not christians -but precisely the absence of a secular enlightenment, democracy based on reason, scientific method, equality and the overturning of old religious models of power.
yeah he's really riding that wave
Who else skips the pointless commentary and just watches the actual clips?
RUclips is cluttered with this self-indulgent commentarian shit these days.
+Irish Mickey Ireland "I'm gonna put on a suit, play a clip about two people talking about something, and then talk about their conversation as if what I say matters and is interesting." lol
***** - I did.
Its a ego booster nobodies can feel like somebodies.
+Scott K Are you a fucking idiot?
milo is married to a man and now he’s gonna start doing conversion therapy as he now identifies as “ex gay”
Joe says they shouldn't talk over eachother, he continues to talk over Milo...
all Milo fucking does is make a point, then backpedal when joe takes him to his logical conclusion. it's ghastly and infuriating
I listened to this episode and it was UTTERLY frustrating. Especially the part when Joe made him guesstimate how many fracking wells there were in the USA and Milo's stupid ass was like 3 orders of magnitude lower than the real number while he defends the practice of fracking.
RamboCujo It's weird how Joe gives him so much intellectual cred for being a self-hating homosexual as if he's a "free thinker" instead of just a defective thinker for it. I thought I would start following him after the first time I saw him destroy some idiot feminist, but then I find out he's a fucking moron and a troll and everything wrong with conservatives today.
RamboCujo I think generally defining yourself by what you hate and disagree with instead of what you believe in is VERY bad. I have lost a friend recently who went off the fucking deep end with this stuff, he's a clusterfuck of beliefs primarily based on how "liberals" are "full of shit" but he doesn't actually know what he wants.
Dis circle jerk tho.
It's almost like he's a hack with a British accent and Americans are too fucking stupid to tell the difference.
It used to be that we laughed at comedians, and listened to politicians. Now we laugh at politicians and listen to comedians.
+Adam Langfelder please edit your comment. I think you messed up.
+Mor4draco Rules Fixed it. Thanks.
Adam Langfelder its all love bro
+Adam Langfelder So true.
Best comment so far
Just fyi, the Viking Religion is making a comeback with a vengeance in Scandinavia, it's not a lack of religion, it's a lack of Biblicism that's benefiting the world.
It became a Trend, 'playing villain' & getting attention.
The golden rule existed far before Christianity all over the world. Greeks had it, Hindus had it, Egyptians had it.
otakurocklee the golden rule was almost certainly around before Jesus, but Jesus is credited with being the first to said it and had it recorded. Up untill that point only the silver rule had been recorded. The difference? The golden rule says "DO" the silver rule says "DON'T DO"
@@justinacosta9973 No , The West claims that Jesus was the first one to say so
That's not correct.
Nope.
Hindus Buddhist are still around all European culture is dead eaten bu Christianity
yes, the golden rule of confucius precedes christianity, but it wasn't known to the west until jesuits brought back to europe from china in the 16th century.
It seems to me that Milo is actually very insecure and irrational, and he gets his kicks by exposing the insecurity and irrationality of others.
Good insight!
More_Gun163 lol
I.e. psychological projection
+stfu Yes. Very common.
i like u man that's just so true
The first time I have seen Milo backed into a corner and him realising his argument is bollocks. How very satisfying.
Finally: Milo couldn't wise-crack his way through this. Thank you JR!
milo's weak side, religious defence - he really needs to give that shit up
yag
I know, everything he says I agree with 100%, but in religion he does need to shut up, it's not his area.
+sam swann just because u dont agree with him does not mean he needs to stop
+Mat Loyal Fair enough. That's not really what I meant though, he needs to realise that his arguement for his religion are weak and not his strong point, and shouldnt really engage in them. But ultimently he can do what he wants, it's just my opinion.
In my opinion Milo has created a unique brand and he is pushing that brand with his stylish air of confidence. He more interested in provoking than seeking truth.
Milo follow your religion properly before you start defending it. Gay is prohibited in the bible.
Orochimaru I didn't know Orichimaru's an atheist !
If Christianity prohibit gay, then Christianity is a boggy man! That way of thinking is quite fucked up :D
however they changed that
after they realized there a lot of gay christians
He won’t look joe in the eyes, but joe is maintaining contact
This was your first vid that I watched now I’m hooked😂
Milo groupies have evolved into trigglypuffs in the comment section.
JumboCod91
radical feminist arguments are the easiest thing in the world to debunk, which is the only "impressive" thing he does!
Yep this guy is a lightweight.
Keep your hate speech off this comment section! Keep your hate speech off this comment section! Keep your hate speech off this comment section! Keep your hate speech off this comment section!Keep your hate speech off this comment section.....
+Battle_Mage he makes a pretty solid case on why the West shouldn't embrace Islam too.
Also, Japanese culture is one of the most advanced, accepting (despite being somewhat internalized), and progressive societies in the world. Not christian.
I was looking at crime statistics and the only category that Japan lead the US in crime was software piracy... That's it, the US leads in all other crimes, except for like the whitest collar crime there is. Maybe he's unfamiliar with asian countries like Japan and Thailand.
I meant Singapore not Thailand, sorry
Yeah Thailand is pretty fucked up I hear
That glosses over a lot of things going on in Japan. Japan is a great country don't get me wrong. But I think the state of their politics and political culture is one that is just extremely respondent to the rest of the world, but not necessarily 'progressive.'
+darkashtar I'm not sure how that has anything to do with what we're talking about but I'm glad you got that off your chest.
Alot of Atheist countries has less teen pregnancies, less STD's, less crime, better education, and better healthcare!!!
Milo is one of the most confusing people I’ve ever had the displeasure of being aware of.
Same
I just discovered him today, and i'm baffled.
The bible abolished worshiping other gods, saying gods name in vain, working on the Sabbath, before it abolishes rape, slavery, and child abuse.
And we're supposed to believe the bible is the moral compass of society?
It's trickle down
Right. How is abolishing the worship of other gods more important than abolishing the other things you listed?
"i don't have to read shit!" Rogan just lost all credibility.
Christians ignore the parts of the bible that talk about selling your daughter to slavery or mixing fibers, how is ignoring the homosexuality passages any different? If he calls himself a christian then he is. He is also pointing out a very interesting statistic. The most desirable places to live in the world are in europe and north america ... all of which have chritian roots. The data does not lie; however that does not change the fact that christianity like every other religion should be eradicated from the planet. I am disappointed that Rogan won't even study the materials milo is bringing up ... that is sad ... a real sceptic or academic would read the material and use evidence to debunk it.
+Hartia Villarreal Well you make good points, but you forget the regressive mantra as jimmy from TYT would say : ''there's nothing worse than the crusades, there's nothing worse than nuclear bombs'' check mate western culture =).
Honved1000 I agree that being too "progressive" actually turn into "regressive" but that argument could be made about almost any culture "there is nothing worse than the Russian genocide" "there is nothing worse than north Korea"
What is really crazy though, is that Christianity originated in the east ... along with all monotheistic religions ... desert dwelling merchant warlords were really in need of a big brother to not kill each other ... OR to kill each other ... another example why religion is shit.
I dont fully agree with milo (other than the fact he is just basing his opinion on statistics)... but i agree less with rogan for not wanting to read/learn something new ... even if its bullshit that he can debunk easily.
+Hartia Villarreal All i heard was Rogan saying "Milo, don't defer the argument to some irrefutable evidence that i haven't read yet during the interview." That effectively would have ended the conversation. If Milo had read and understood the evidence himself, he would be able to formulate an argument based on it during this interview. It would be similar to you and I having a debate on whether or not guns should be outlawed, and instead of us arguing based on what we know and believe, I could say "there's an article that proves my point irrefutably. You should read it sometime so you understand. We don't need to have this conversation. Next question."
+Hartia Villarreal Correlation does not mean causality. Logic is not empiricism. Milo couldn't explain his irrational position and was appealing to authority of a text he can't explain. Rogen could smell bullshit a mile away.
Joe managed to make milo uncomfortable and say things he didn’t want to.
Milo would face far less homophobia (literally zero) in edo period japan (an era when christianity was banned) than any civilization ever that had judeo-christian values
That's wrong. The gay sex was only among nobles acceptable and only for tops. The 1500s italy was more gay than edo period japan, but again mostly among city dwelling high society like leo davinci.
He talks like those evil people in movies
lol yes
Brih-ish tis thee
lol no
yes joe does
Yeah, Milo is basically Tommy Lee Jone's character in "JFK."
Could you imagine if Milo actually tried to debate Christopher Hitchens? Milo would be killed with shame lol.
I'm a Potato or Jesse Ventura 😈
Not many people refer to him any more. Man I miss his brutal honesty a d would have liked to see his input on what's going on today . Rip
Milo would be calling Hitchens daddy by the end of it
Stephen Fry
it's funny how you think religion can be debated. the whole basis of religion is faith. so igorant.
The story Jesus tells of the Good Samaritan proves that Christian values where around before Christianity was.
I’m obviously very late but good on joe for standing up to one of his guests for once
Same late and all
This can't be real. I think Milo understands that the vast majority of his audience are right winged, so he targets their views accordingly. If not, he's just twisted
and gay
I'm glad Joe Rogan went at him a bit. He was wrong about almost everything he said on that podcast bar one statement. A guy who is right once in three hours of conversation shouldn't be famous.
Stop making stupid people famous.
+AholeAtheist
There are many people out there who you would never want to associate with but you might agree on 10% of issues.
+AholeAtheist "He was wrong about almost everything he said" You realize that your OPINION isnt FACT right?
+AholeAtheist just to be clear, are you referring to Joe or Milo as the stupid person?
+AholeAtheist Milo was right our basic sense of right and wrong does come from the bibleand countries without some semblance of it are fucked upthat may not be the reason but it's true
They had talk. Agreed on some things, disagreed on others.
In the end, both understood each other and appreciated the moment.
Milo trolls atheists because he thinks some will have the same type of reaction when questioned that christians do... sadly the fucker is right.
But his arguments are BS. Most countries in Africa where judeoxmas shit got in, became even worse.
“Our sense of right and wrong comes from the bible”
?
One of those wrongs is being gay But-Boy
Does that make the concept wrong
@@User18dog I don’t really care what other people do with their parts but you can’t deny that it is a human defect since humans are programmed to be attracted to the opposite sex so procreation can happen
@@wolfy9549 - Procreation.
Lol.
Dave chapelle is a Muslim he has never talked about his religion on stage lol
Is he???
Lmao prob true niggas be worshipping Allahs and shit
@@theflashdcuniverse Allah means god but in arabic. I dont se alot of niggas that worship god, many worship Jesus.
@@shnpio Yupp.
Joe Rogan makes this guy look like a fool.
He didn't even let Milo speak.
Whenever he did, Milo just made himself look like more of an ass
TheAlmonteFilms Explain how.
something tells me Milo was sexually abused as a child
Uhhh, nbkcq28, did he mean boys as in little boys or males as in male.
He was sexually abused by Joe Rogan on that segment
He said that he had sex with a much older man when he was a little boy and it actually helped him. He also said he didn't see anything wrong with underage boys having sex with older men which is exactly why Breitbart let him go!
His booty hole was blessed by the pope.
Turned out he was.
Awe, this just got recommended. Love you Kyle!
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Damn, I thought Milo was a rational dude, but there he is, believing in a space wizard..
The other thing he said something about Trump eating KFC with knife and fork, to paraphrase him, you know he's good for us, but sometimes he does things that makes us cringe.
And you believe in... what? A magical space vortex that doesn't have rational thought? Nuclear bombs going off in space that somehow create advanced biological computers (animals) that are so far beyond our ability to create or even replicate that they're like magic? Jumping into the atheist mind is an awe-inspiring experience that makes one realize the incredible amount of faith "modern" people put in social demagogues like Richard Dawkins or Neil deGrasse Tyson.
"Hmm, the universe seems quite complex. I can't understand most of it.. Must have been made by a space wizard!"
"A magical space vortex" would suggest that you know very little about the Big Bang theory. It's hard to make any sort of valid argument without any knowledge on the matter. Most atheists know about the Bible, hence why they think it's a load of shit. You however, know very little about atheist beliefs by the sound of things.
Tom Lloyd Yes. A Magical Space Vortex. Why do you mention the Big Bang? You're thinking *way* too late in the game. Years ago I remember Dawkins describing a sort of vortex/nexus that churns out universes complete with unique mathematical laws (essentially the mother of the Big Bang). We're talking about the source of the Universe (The Vortex); not the earliest known activity to occur within it (The Big Bang). I'm struggling to understand why you brought up the Big Bang like you did. Are you trying to look smarter than me by pitching it like a non sequitur "Hail Mary"? You didn't connect-the-dots very well. Yet another reason why I'm confident placing my trust in Milo rather than his oddball detractors.
Christopher Hitchens would have had a field day with this guy 😂 R.I.P
Which guy, Kyle?
@@ontheaux336 milo
Christopher Hitchens sucks. He’s not even a philosopher. He would get negged
@@nathanmosqueda3185 no
@@tamer3397 yes
Estonia has over 50% of the population being atheist. Last time I checked the crime rate wasnt even close to the US.
Your so right on everything keep up the videos Kyle 💯
Japan, South Korea, good chunks of China, India, the Nordic Countries.
Look how well combining Religion and Government worked out for Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Morocco, and Turkey! Wait a minute.....
To be fair, Iran might get better in next few decades. They've got a fairly liberal young population.
mariochaosspear Fair point. But heaven forbid the Old Generation let the Young Generation have control of things if they can help it!
Vimal Joseph Yes, because if not being perfect discounts a country then nobody is on the list. India and China have had great moments of civilisation in there history.
god you are stupid
Milo: “I am Christian.”
Milo: “I am gay.”
Okay...
Shamayil Al Hajri
Not all christians hate gay people thats a retarded and uneducated statement. Im far from christian yet im still educated on these things
Scorpio Syndrome god hates gays
Your 3rd world tyrannical philosophy will destroy your people
Scorpio Syndrome This person is saying that it’s still ridiculous to follow a religion that says part of your identity is a sin, not that Christians hate gay people. Although the vast majority of the anti-gay culture that still exists comes from people who follow religion, like Christianity and Islam
Keep slaying, these people are efficiently offended
You know those people who want to be different for the sake of being different? King Missle had a song called "I want to be different like everybody else." Milo may find some insight within that song.
A guy who created image of a confident flamboyant gay admits, he would rather be straight. That's all you have to know about Milo.
@joe buffalo I understand, I am gay too. And I am well aware of how harder it is (especially when you live in a conservative country like I do). But there's a huge difference between realising that the deck is stacked against you and thinking that being gay is wrong in any way.
Somebody should talk about Japan. Not a Christian based culture that enjoys some of the highest living standards on the planet and lowest crime rates. Superior ethics to the Christians me thinks
And 30 000 + suicides a year. You clearly don't know much about the real Japan.
Japan is 18th rank
Sri Lanka 35.3 suicides per 100k 1
Lithuania 32.7 suicides per 100k 2
Guyana 29 suicides per 100k 3
South Korea 28.3 suicides per 100k 4
Mongolia 28.3 suicides per 100k 5
Kazakhstan 27.5 suicides per 100k 6
Suriname 26.6 suicides per 100k 7
Belarus 22.8 suicides per 100k 8
Guinea 22.6 suicides per 100k 9
Poland 22.3 suicides per 100k 10
Latvia 21.7 suicides per 100k 11
Hungary 21.6 suicides per 100k 12
Slovenia 21.4 suicides per 100k 13
Angola 20.5 suicides per 100k 14
Belgium 20.5 suicides per 100k 15
Russia 20.1 suicides per 100k 16
Ukraine 20.1 suicides per 100k 17
Japan 19.7 suicides per 100k 18
Ok, I must have read older stats then. I saw it some years ago. But, having suicide forests like they do is quite disturbing.
Mike Messiah The european average is 10.67 according to wiki
Invisible Drummer. How is suicide unethical? You are taking your own life. You are not harming another person. Religions forbidden suicide because only God, and his blessed soldiers, have power over life and death. It has nothing to do with fucking ethics.
How joe can take any of these psychopaths seriously at this point is beyond me.
Cuz he’s gotta get everyone’s views. People tend to surround themselves with people who agree with them, but intellectual growth can’t be made until there are conflicting ideals. However, these guys are definitely psychopaths.
How did you come to the conclusion that Joe takes this guy seriously? He shreds the idiot, as is right and proper. You conflate his willingness to engage with people who he knows are harmful idiots in order to expose the absurdity of their positions, with taking them seriously. He only takes them "seriously" in the sense that since they are spreading harmful, hateful propaganda, he deems it worth having them on his show to expose and counter their bad thinking.
So says a person who believes pedophilia is just OK. By the way Milo, in the bible Jesus says the ten commandments are written on the heart of everyman.
Yeah, it truly that crazy to not have the same opinion on the freaking way of life as you do. Holy shit you are dumb.
Jen Dark Energy 384400 milo isn’t serious, how do people not get that it’s satire
Wow, I first started listening to Joe Rogan 5 years ago, when this podcast came out. Good times. I remember I was hiking while listening to this podcast. I’m fact, I first heard of Kyle Kulinski on JRE.
Actually japan n south korea has the best culture. Everybody minds their own business and is respectful to one another. Intelligence and productivity is held in very high regard.
Joe Rogan: "Hey we can't keep interrupting each other." Continues to interrupt Milo the entire time, so that he couldn't get a point across.
Like he does quite often with most of his guests lol.
Then he's a shit host. lol
albinotatertot He's a good dude, but he can be very annoying sometimes.
Milo is a sociopolitical opportunist who latches onto the christian movement in order to glean approval and acceptance for his platform.
the perfect example of a parasite
He’s a fucktard!
I don't think you have to be a Christian in order to be accepted by the right. Look at Hunter Avellone and Dave Rubin.
He seems genuine about his bs xtianity to me. Idk how any intelligent person can give beyond absurd religion any credence whatsoever.
Basically, social organisms arise from in-built empathy. Empathy can evolve because it engenders cooperation, and cooperation is a competitive advantage.
When you get as complex as we are, what we call "morals" are what we label the patterns of intersubjective contouring of what arises from empathy. We can abstract it as ethical principles and whatnot but it's all at root the same.
Just as animals don't need religion, nor does any social organism. We all have a basic sense of "right" and "wrong" that evolves in nuance as we test variation in culture what works and what doesn't. The general evolution of an individual or culture when it comes to morality, is where you draw the boundary of whom you care about and whom don't. Yourself? Your family? Your community? Your country? Your species? All species? All life and sentience? Etc. Something is more moral if its circle of concern and care is wider and deeper, and its universal application engenders better intersubjective function and experience.
Religion is an embarrassing anachronism. Pretending its relevance should have been a closed book ages ago.
“Any gay person would be better if they were straight”
Bro what😂
Joe"listen if we're gonna have a conversation we can't keep talking over each other like this" Rogan
If the west followed real "Judeo-Christian" values, it would be a very different place. The Old Testament and the Torah are very different from the New Testament, they're much stricter. Even the New Testament is strict in its own right. The west doesn't really reflect their values very much at all.
What a foolish thing to say, F.
zthroescha why is that?
"It's just foolish. No explanation needed!" Hahahaha what an idiot
Tyler Smith His statement is foolish because simple observation shows that he is wrong. I know you're probably a kid (the "idiot" language) and that your friends might make fun of you for not being part of the "group think" but you should be able to look at the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and even Japan (before we, as a Judaeo-Christian nation set them straight) to see the difference. Have you ever studied how long the Middle East held on to slavery, for instance? Or that the Middle East has almost no black population despite a massive influx of African slaves over years and years? You probably think I'm nuts (because I'm Christian, I guess) but you owe it to yourself to know the truth about your heritage.
zthroescha I'm 18, not looking for an argument, however.
Rogan: We shouldn't interrupt each other.
Milo: Ok.
Rogan proceeds to interrupt him all podcast.
+Chris Huston I agree with Joe Rogan but yeah, he was being a dick.
Which interview were you watching?
The one above all these comments.
+Issoxccddcc Usisxiiccisisi Dude I watch his interviews constantly (he's a great speaker), and he's the one who's never allowed to speak.
I love the two microphone set up
Kyle. this video saved me from being a conservative.
I can't believe how hard Milo fanboys have flooded this video. _10,000_ dislikes? What the actual fuck?
+JustTOm ...Is that meant to be a gibe at me?
+JustTOM Kyle _never_ gets this many dislikes. That means a bunch of people who don't usually watch his videos came here specifically to dislike it.
In another video of this it's amazing how many agree with him in this instance. It's just stupid to think that we couldn't have come up with "don't murder" and "don't steal" without religion.
+dean brickland Which surely proves my point.
uneducated virgin alt right bitches, that's who.
I agree with Milo. He's not self hating, he's realistic, imagine he has a '81 honda, that's fine, but if he had a ford mustang that would be better.
+Duchess yah and that doesn't mean he hates his honda
caladuz2 exactly
+Duchess I have a ton of respect for Milo. I love that he is gay because he gets to say things no one else can say because of Political Correctness. Hes untouchable for that. I agree with what he says. I'm not religious at all but sometimes I feel like I wish I could be. Sometimes I think maybe I'd be happier if I believed in god. I can't fault him for saying he thinks he'd be better if he was straight.
People need to stop saying this. One is quantifiable, the other is qualitative. You cannot compare the two.
+Duchess So you are saying being is straight is better than being gay because IDK about that the way western society is moving women are getting fucking crazier than ever.
does Milo ever talk with his head at a 180-degree angle!?!?!?!
coming here to give this video a thumbs up
"If I could choose, I wouldn't be homosexual...but that doesn't make me self-loathing." -Milo Yiannopoulos
Brilliant words from a brilliant man. By brilliant, I mean an utter moron. I actually went an appearance by Milo at UCLA, because I was genuinely interested in his political philosophy, but instead of discussing substantive issues, he spent the entire time flattering his supporters, the power of conservative meme activism, and claiming that trolling liberals on pop cultural topics was the only thing that matters because young people don't give a shit about Israel or the Middle East. Conservative philosophy has experienced a race to the bottom when it comes to actually offering ideas and solutions to society at large.
This is why I love joe rogan, keep it up brother
Definately!!!
Joe should also realize that the church started science and has donated more to science and medical advancements than any other organization. The church built all the hospitals. You ever wonder why all the children’s hospitals are named after saints? Religious people donate more to charity than all other non-religious people combined.
Arturo Garza I wanna look more into that. I always thought the church clashed with science all the time because it contradicted some of their beliefs
@@ArturoGarzaID religious people donating more then non-religious if it even were true, might be cause of the guilt thats been nagging them from all the bad things there relegion has caused, i wouldn't be surprised if they donated alot to molestcharities cause the pastors they like to listen to can't seem to keep there hands to themselves
@@tomthys8317 So you think all pastors are child molesters? That's pretty naive, don't you think? And religious people do donate more than everyone else, it's to help people, has nothing to do with guilt. You seem pretty touchy about religious people, what's the matter did you get diddled by your priest?
2015-2017 was peak JRE and Secular Talk
It's the fact western European and many colonies of them rebelled from their religious traditions is why we have a fairly advanced culture compared to some others.
Not because of Christian sects. When other nations rebel from their traditions they are allowed to advance beyond bogus beliefs and take on objectively good ones and preferred outcomes.
It looks like r/the_donald were alerted to this video, judging by the downvotes. Milo said that becoming straight would be career suicide. Wow. He's admitting that his trolling nature is all about making money from his infamy. Not that it wasn't plain to see. Also, you can see how shifty he is when he tries to troll Rogan. It's probably easier to troll by text (articles, tweets etc) rather than face to face.
In an interview with the moron that is Ruben, Milo says he doesn't want to be seen as equal to straight men because he claims that being gay makes him BETTER. Now here is is arguing the opposite. This is a classic conservative tactic. Consistency doesn't matter to them. They will say whatever they have to to gain what they perceive to be the "upper hand" in the moment. What a croc of shit this guys spews.
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What the fuck, dude? Being gay, having low testosterone, or being physically or emotionally fragile, doesn't make anyone less worthy of life. Pull your head out of your ass and quit talking like it does.
I love how committed he is to his bullshit. Like he had to know going in joe was gonna call him out but he must've been like, "yeah but it'll be so much exposure..". Then in the moment he's like, "fuck I'm in a corner I have to double down..are my followers this stupid? I'll just double down fuck it."
Matt Bacon Or alternatively he could be slightly uncomfortable confronting one of his flaws.
I dont understand all the dislikes?? I had a field day, I'm guessing its religious people
Religion and greed is why we are where we are