On the Menagerie fight, you want the person with glutton (the small blue tornado) to absorb the venting protocol it gives them more damage and makes it safer for the rest :)
Yeah this one hurts, i just finished it in normal mod as a SV Hunter and top dps against Fury Warrior and Ret Paladin... But yeah if you bring these juicy Mages of course you'll burn the shit out of the dungeon :s
On the teleports boss you can pick any portal to use for avoiding the circle. For instance, you have a square next to you and both are quite far from the circle border. You check which one is further away, jump there and then return back to the closest one. No need to aim for the tp that was in the middle of the circle.
For the mail room fight you have to stop all damage on him to deliver the packages. That worked for my group anyway. If anyone keeps attacking him it stops letting you pick them up.
Just did this fight hard mode with 2 healers for last boss. Group make up was Pally tank, destro warlock, demon hunter, holy priest and Resto shaman. Took a few tries but is do able.
If you have lust, hard mode is not too bad at all. But without it, week one, especially if you don't have the dmg to push through some bugs it could be really rough. Also our healer was venthyr Holy pally which helped with damage of course Mailroom got melted, but the 6th and last boss wiped us like 3 times each they were no joke. And the portal boss was cool as hell. I can't imagine any of those bosses in M+ tho I honestly wonder what the normal mechanics are Also also, we def ran back all the way until the last boss where we found out about the portals.
Hello Dratnos, thank you very much for your guides!!! They are always helpful and I really liked them and helped me a lot ! I have 2 questions I hope you read my post here and u can answer them. 1.) The bosses to the left of the lifebar were skills. The bosses casts then this casts, because there is a time faded countdown. My question is which weakaura is that? 2.) Above your stats display shows your talents, pact talents, pact and the follower. My question is which weakaura is that? Keep going with your videos you are doing a good job!
You only need 1 person in the group to have the hardmode unlocked. It makes everyone in the group turn into a broker. It can also be turned on by a 6th player as long as someone holds the instance.
Not everyone needs the necklace. My group did the first boss and unlocked it with one player on an alt, then switched to main to have a clean lockout, making one player not have the necklace.
Really fun instance outside of all the buggyness. Like So'azmi teleporting to a sqaure without portals in it so you can't get to him for the interrupt or the mail boss not letting you throw the packages. So'leah is so hard with low dps we had two doing 3k something and one doing 2.4k and we kept running out of steam around 30% but once I got off the 2k and onto my balance doing 5k it was easy one shot. Not sure how you do some of these encounters with affix and a timer tho.
pretty annoying that mail room was just as bugged on ptr for weeks before live, and it's exactly the same now... everything else in this dungeon is super sick though, big fan and can't wait for it to be in m+
It pisses me off how convoluted the unlocking of hard mode is. But even if we say "it's hard mode": the quest text itself is nonsense. It tells you "go talk to a guy in the entrance" with no other instruction.
What ilvl do you recommend to run normal mode and hard mode? My friend is a fresh holy priest, 195 ilvl with korthia and some left out. My prot paly is 224. Will we be fine pugging dps? Or we should work on healer's gear before attempting Tazavesh and even hard mode?
to be clear, we ended up doing it with him healing, but it was a struggle and took several attempts. Only boss that wasn’t bugged that took us more than 4 pulls
My group of three consisted of my 214 prot pally a 216 resti sham and a 218 hunter and we pugged a 220 rogue and a 218 dk and it fucking recked us, we definitely could have done it smoother if we managed cds better but the dg is so over tuned that most damage even the unavoidable damage chunks anywhere from 60 - 100% of a dps health bar
i have run this dungeon on mythic which drops 226 (isn't it only mythic dungeon?) and except first boss all the mechanics in this video are the same. whats the difference in hard mode?
The mail room bug is just a UI bug. If you macro your extra action button and put it on a key, you can pick up the bombs regardless of what the UI shows.
You do not need an alt, but using an alt can get you hard mode loot on the first boss vs the normal 226 loot. Although using mains means that everyone's main will get the neck.
You can see we brought a *Hunter* ... So you have some wiggle room for more DPS if you make wiser choice. Ouch! RiP Hunters, lets all keep beating them when they are already down in the gutter 😛😛😛
yes it is an achievement reward for defeating the last boss on hardmode. Also I can confirm from personal experience that you ONLY need to kill the last boss. My mage was too squishy to get through the last boss and it was getting late so I swapped to my monk instead and earned the achievement and mount.
Try stopping all dps during the package delivery. My group finished it but we had to stop any and all damage to him while we delivered. Hitting him made it so we couldn't pick up the packages.
@@DanielKlierP oh me too I always look forward to them, although I’m actually going to do my own this time before I look. I wanna see how close I am or what differs. Without pride I feel we have a bit more freedom
So'azmi is a terribly designed fight. RNG Portals that are faster than your move speed. Divide lines that are LOS and screws up your camera. Literally unpredictable whether he will teleport after an interrupted triple technique. Last cast is a split second after. Maybe I'm just bad and unlucky as I wiped 15 times on this guy until getting him down. No idea how people do this without voice comms.
So'azmi is the worst fight in the history of fights maybe ever. When you need to interupt him 3 times he teleports and there is NEVER a portal to his quadrant
@@nugget7865 but why do a 8 boss dungeon if there is nothing worth doing it for? You need to communicate to some extent, while you could just auto pilot through a +12 - 14 in the normal dungeons
On the Menagerie fight, you want the person with glutton (the small blue tornado) to absorb the venting protocol it gives them more damage and makes it safer for the rest :)
"Hello guys, quick video!" 25min long! :D
Thanks mate! Keep up the good work
Glad to see you also had fun here Dratnos! I was proper burnt out after my first proper tier in Mythic raiding but this dungeon brought me back eeeez
"we brought along a hunter, so there's room for you to make a wiser choice on that front" lmao
I live for Dratnos’ low-key shade.
Yeah this one hurts, i just finished it in normal mod as a SV Hunter and top dps against Fury Warrior and Ret Paladin...
But yeah if you bring these juicy Mages of course you'll burn the shit out of the dungeon :s
* sad hunter noises *
All my homies hate hunters
thanks dratnos, i joined a group and watched the video during the last boss and got it. always a help!
On the teleports boss you can pick any portal to use for avoiding the circle. For instance, you have a square next to you and both are quite far from the circle border. You check which one is further away, jump there and then return back to the closest one. No need to aim for the tp that was in the middle of the circle.
So'Azmi is one of the coolest dungeon bosses they've made. I fucking loved it.
LMAO my dumb ass clicked the screen 3 times because of the pause icon then realised it was Dratnos' screen not RUclips
For the mail room fight you have to stop all damage on him to deliver the packages. That worked for my group anyway. If anyone keeps attacking him it stops letting you pick them up.
my group just heored and ignored mechanics and we killed him before the first bomb went off
Just did this fight hard mode with 2 healers for last boss. Group make up was Pally tank, destro warlock, demon hunter, holy priest and Resto shaman. Took a few tries but is do able.
Anyone else had a bug with The Grand Menagerie where if they wiped they would be stuck in combat and couldn't release?
We had that and it was fixed after our shaman reincarnated and died again
IDK what but after dratnos guide we one shotted the last 3 bosses kekw.
"best mechanic player" made me laugh. Great vid papa drat
Dratnos is love, Dratnos is life
Thanks dratnos!
If you have lust, hard mode is not too bad at all. But without it, week one, especially if you don't have the dmg to push through some bugs it could be really rough. Also our healer was venthyr Holy pally which helped with damage of course
Mailroom got melted, but the 6th and last boss wiped us like 3 times each they were no joke. And the portal boss was cool as hell. I can't imagine any of those bosses in M+ tho I honestly wonder what the normal mechanics are
Also also, we def ran back all the way until the last boss where we found out about the portals.
I ran normal and I honestly cannot see any difference in the mechanics from this video.
Awesome video, very helpful :)
Hello Dratnos, thank you very much for your guides!!!
They are always helpful and I really liked them and helped me a lot !
I have 2 questions I hope you read my post here and u can answer them.
1.) The bosses to the left of the lifebar were skills. The bosses casts then this casts, because there is a time faded countdown. My question is which weakaura is that?
2.) Above your stats display shows your talents, pact talents, pact and the follower. My question is which weakaura is that?
Keep going with your videos you are doing a good job!
You only need 1 person in the group to have the hardmode unlocked. It makes everyone in the group turn into a broker. It can also be turned on by a 6th player as long as someone holds the instance.
Yeah, but then the others get screwed out of the quest for the 226 necklace and that's no fun
but do you still get the achievement for the mount?
We had a bug where the star disappeared and we couldn’t soak it after like 2-3 soaks
Same. We had to 2 heal soleah due to the last soak doing like 10k a tick to everyone cuz we couldn’t soak the last one
We didn’t have that option and did pretty well till that boss it was undoable
We could 1 phase her but that second phase was a nightmare to heal and even live through and we even had 3 immunities
Not everyone needs the necklace. My group did the first boss and unlocked it with one player on an alt, then switched to main to have a clean lockout, making one player not have the necklace.
Really fun instance outside of all the buggyness. Like So'azmi teleporting to a sqaure without portals in it so you can't get to him for the interrupt or the mail boss not letting you throw the packages. So'leah is so hard with low dps we had two doing 3k something and one doing 2.4k and we kept running out of steam around 30% but once I got off the 2k and onto my balance doing 5k it was easy one shot.
Not sure how you do some of these encounters with affix and a timer tho.
pretty annoying that mail room was just as bugged on ptr for weeks before live, and it's exactly the same now... everything else in this dungeon is super sick though, big fan and can't wait for it to be in m+
14:00 Bear-ly
So much fun. Not as challenging as mechagon hardmode but still plenty of frustrating funny wipes.
Do you have to wear the necklace in the special form the whole dungeon or can we put our regular necks back on after talking to entrance guys?
Thank you!
For postmaster fight forget the cases healer change dps spec and try to nuke him it works for me even for hm
did they fix this.. we just went and got the credentials.. went out and resat.. but the guy for hardmode dont pop up..
So u can't do hardmode for the Mount if u killed all bosses on normal Mode in the same week ? Does anyone know ?
You can do it for the mount as that will come from the achiv not a boss drop and you can get the quest necklace but no other loot
It pisses me off how convoluted the unlocking of hard mode is. But even if we say "it's hard mode": the quest text itself is nonsense. It tells you "go talk to a guy in the entrance" with no other instruction.
mailboss was bugged for us too, just had the healer go dps and we burned it before the explosions.
Isn’t there a 233 version of the neck? Dratnos says it only goes up to 226 here.
What ilvl do you recommend to run normal mode and hard mode? My friend is a fresh holy priest, 195 ilvl with korthia and some left out. My prot paly is 224. Will we be fine pugging dps? Or we should work on healer's gear before attempting Tazavesh and even hard mode?
our healer was a decent resto shaman at 218 ilvl and the last boss on hardmode was destroying us. lots of unavoidable group damage
to be clear, we ended up doing it with him healing, but it was a struggle and took several attempts. Only boss that wasn’t bugged that took us more than 4 pulls
My group of three consisted of my 214 prot pally a 216 resti sham and a 218 hunter and we pugged a 220 rogue and a 218 dk and it fucking recked us, we definitely could have done it smoother if we managed cds better but the dg is so over tuned that most damage even the unavoidable damage chunks anywhere from 60 - 100% of a dps health bar
post master is bugged right now, you have to use all your defensives and kill him on bloodlust before you die
i have run this dungeon on mythic which drops 226 (isn't it only mythic dungeon?) and except first boss all the mechanics in this video are the same. whats the difference in hard mode?
So'Zami is largely the same in normal, its just a double interupt, not a triple
Thanks guy!
The mail room bug is just a UI bug. If you macro your extra action button and put it on a key, you can pick up the bombs regardless of what the UI shows.
I do trust Dratnos 100%, but can someone else confirm you do not need to have an alt reset dungeon?
You do not need an alt, but using an alt can get you hard mode loot on the first boss vs the normal 226 loot. Although using mains means that everyone's main will get the neck.
I can't tell the difference for most of these. The teleport one is slightly different and the final boss
same here did the first 5 with a pug and tactics seem exactly the same
Does this little quest chain to enable hard mode need to be done each week? Or do you keep the necklace to re-use it every week?
keep and re-use
You can see we brought a *Hunter* ... So you have some wiggle room for more DPS if you make wiser choice.
Ouch! RiP Hunters, lets all keep beating them when they are already down in the gutter 😛😛😛
We tried to reset instance and it just wouldn't reset, we tried creating an entirely new group and everything :(
same, we're trying it now and it doesn't seem to reset :/
Do you have to do HM Tazavesh all in one go? My group went back in after not finishing it in one day and it was back to normal mode...
I've heard people saying that yeah it has to be all in one go - that's bad imo and hopefully something they'd reconsider but for now it seems like it
why i dont have that npc at min 4:45
I need to kill So'leah but only got Heroic mode there is no normal one.... Need it for my quest
Can you pull the trash with the first boss? And if you somehow kill the trash you'll have more room to work?
Yes, but the trash is insanely difficult while the boss is up and there is a LOT of it.
mailroom is super bugged not working at all, we had to zerg it down...
Hope i can get hard mode done tonight
POST bug should have been fixed before release. Requesting immediate hotfix
What is the approximate difficulty of hard mode relative to mythic raids or mythic plus?
Like a +7 maybe? I guess? There's mechanics to do but it ain't exactly hard really
Gear dependent, the unavoidable damage crushes health bars if you aren't geared appropriately
u can do hardmode only once per week? i thought m0 dungeons are doable once per day?
M0s lockouts have always been weekly. Heroics are daily (unless you queue with dungeon finder).
@@FearsWasTaken oh ok, then i was mistaken whoops^^
Thanks, your hunter comment makes me sad. Please blizz buff hunter
same here... felt fucking gutted at that point :p
survival is in a great place wym
They brought a MM, that's the mistake.
Buff hunter. Why? So we can see 6 in each raid again? Nty
They did.
@@James_Johnson79 thankfully yes
14:00 he BEARLY makes it lol
Did a full clear pug today minimal wipes and it's awful , and it's going to be hell in mythic plus
what ilvl drops on hardmode
Now if only I had friends on wow to do it with because pugging is the worst 😭
Can confirm this is only a good experience with friends.
you "bearly" made it in time ^_^
is the mount guaranteed to drop on hard mode?
yes it is an achievement reward for defeating the last boss on hardmode. Also I can confirm from personal experience that you ONLY need to kill the last boss. My mage was too squishy to get through the last boss and it was getting late so I swapped to my monk instead and earned the achievement and mount.
Also, in case anyone was wondering, my monk hadn’t even unlocked the dungeon yet let alone the hardmode version.
this will be the dead key dungeon, once you get the key you can kind of instantly go to the npc to change key to another ;)
for me and my friends, it worked better on the rune boss to put markers and call them out. different strat for ya
normal mode is the exatly same tacks and boss fights as hardmode
mail boss is still not fixed.
Try stopping all dps during the package delivery. My group finished it but we had to stop any and all damage to him while we delivered. Hitting him made it so we couldn't pick up the packages.
Yeah the packages were bugged for me too
collapsing stars are so buggy. As an hpally i hate that.
Mail boss still not fixed
Week 4 mailboss still bugged
portal boss is so over tuned its insane
Yea but it was really fun. Except for the collapsing star disappearing every other pull.
Any chance you're going to provide some routes?
For this? It’s not on M+ yet so just decide which order you wanna do he middles bosses really
@@johnwarner4178 nono, sorry I meant for the other dungeons.
@@DanielKlierP they are often posted to raider.io/news
@@DanielKlierP oh me too I always look forward to them, although I’m actually going to do my own this time before I look. I wanna see how close I am or what differs. Without pride I feel we have a bit more freedom
@@johnwarner4178 true. Yeah. Maybe I'm just too accustomed to being lazy now 😉 you're probably right about doing it yourself.
relog on bugged mail
So'azmi is a terribly designed fight. RNG Portals that are faster than your move speed. Divide lines that are LOS and screws up your camera. Literally unpredictable whether he will teleport after an interrupted triple technique. Last cast is a split second after. Maybe I'm just bad and unlucky as I wiped 15 times on this guy until getting him down. No idea how people do this without voice comms.
So last boss pro tipp: go to De Other Side
its bugged today still T_T
Oh no, the free slight on hunters :/
i caught it
@@WoWDontu a hunter main wouldn't get it.
our party (around 222 ilvl) managed to kill it (the mail guy), just nuke it and gg
So'azmi is the worst fight in the history of fights maybe ever. When you need to interupt him 3 times he teleports and there is NEVER a portal to his quadrant
mad
@@gemicide_1833 cuz bad
The whole place is a big bug. Just wait and all will be fixed in 7 months.
No paint?! thumbs down Sadge
This shit needs tuning. 226 ilvl rewrad and u need ilvl 4000? Bullshit.
It's a shame that the gear is basically only useful for catch up or alts. Other than that, just a good looking mount farm
Yeah, well, people complain that each patch erases prior work, but if you introduce content that doesn't do that, people say there is no content.
@@nugget7865 but why do a 8 boss dungeon if there is nothing worth doing it for? You need to communicate to some extent, while you could just auto pilot through a +12 - 14 in the normal dungeons
@@DanielKlierP And what do you want from it?
@@nugget7865 wow players just like to complain. I agree with ur point 100%
@@nugget7865 already said that. Something worth doing it for.
meh guide
downvoted, didn't explain mechanics on all of the bosses for hardmode.