Great Video. I am a beginner and got the 165. All those features about recovery are useless to me. I go run when i feel good. Main reason for a garmin was that all my friends have a Garmin and so we can do challange and thats fun af. I think thats all about as a beginner. GPS in my area is 95% as good as the multi band on the Fenix and 265 of my friends. Battery could be longer if you compare it to the Coros Pace 3 but im getting 10 days with 5 runs in that time. So its fine for me.
This review has convinced me to never buy any Garmin watch. If I can't have reliable breadcrumb trail when I'm 36 miles deep in a national park, the watch is useless to me.
Training load and overall recovery data across all watches is a gimmick. It a placebo. Gauge your workouts on how you actually feel and not what some algorithm that's collecting data that isn't pinpoint accurate. Reviewers base review such as these off these fads.
thanks for the rev! yup, they made a Pace 3 down to the last gram! but instead of a mip they're wasting battery to light up an amoled and they're obviously crippling the poor thing in every aspect they could think of; old gnss, old heart monitors even if decent, old navigation, when they've had better tech for two years at this point. plus, unless you are in the USofA this thing will probably still be 50-100$ more expensive than the pace. the 165 was what I was waiting for to make up my mind on a much needed smartwatch. proud 2 week Pace 3 user here!
It’s Garmin’s response to the Pace 3 and it is nowhere near as good. Having said that Coros now need to up their game re AMOLED screens and if they can do that and keep them cost effective that could really eat into Garmin’s margins. The problem with Garmin now is too much choice and inconsistency of models - You can have a watch with training readiness and one without in what are the same pricing points. They really need to smooth out their models
@@marvin7533 Are you guys serious? It improves the tracking accuracy of pretty much every activity in the watch. Why do you think the higher models have one?
Thank you, I could tell it was all gimmick and it was intentional by Garmin so real runners choose their more expensive models. Coros has its shortcomings but at least they offer more useful and comprehensive features in their Pace 3 (same price). If Coros Apex Pro 3 has amoled, Training readiness and more health features, it will be the best running watch.
You again.. Great review ❤
Thanks again!
Great Video. I am a beginner and got the 165. All those features about recovery are useless to me. I go run when i feel good. Main reason for a garmin was that all my friends have a Garmin and so we can do challange and thats fun af. I think thats all about as a beginner. GPS in my area is 95% as good as the multi band on the Fenix and 265 of my friends. Battery could be longer if you compare it to the Coros Pace 3 but im getting 10 days with 5 runs in that time. So its fine for me.
Welcome aboard!
Liked and subscribed. Suunto 9 baro titanium user here. Cheers from México.
Thank you Fabricio!
Excellent review! Informative and entertaining!!
Much appreciated!
couldn't stand the screen on Coros Pace 3 so I returned it. This watch is what I'm looking at to replace it.
What was the problem with the screen? Im looking at both coros pace 3 and FR 165 rn.
I’m glad I got the Coros Pace 3!
im sorry to hear that 😢
My 165 gps is excellent where i live, very odd how you had trouble with yours.
Great review ❤❤
Love it! Thank you!!
Any time!
As a beginner which watch do you recommend? Thanks
This review has convinced me to never buy any Garmin watch. If I can't have reliable breadcrumb trail when I'm 36 miles deep in a national park, the watch is useless to me.
This watch isnt for walking in a national park there are other garmin models perfect for hiking and walking with the breadcrum trail and maps
They add the data like from Stryd.
Training load and overall recovery data across all watches is a gimmick. It a placebo. Gauge your workouts on how you actually feel and not what some algorithm that's collecting data that isn't pinpoint accurate. Reviewers base review such as these off these fads.
Agree. Training load could actually injure beginners if they simply follow blindly.
Bad question. But which watch would look better on a dress shirt :)) .
one question please has an option for Jump rope and stationary bike thanks
yes it does
thanks for the rev!
yup, they made a Pace 3 down to the last gram!
but instead of a mip they're wasting battery to light up an amoled and they're obviously crippling the poor thing in every aspect they could think of; old gnss, old heart monitors even if decent, old navigation, when they've had better tech for two years at this point.
plus, unless you are in the USofA this thing will probably still be 50-100$ more expensive than the pace.
the 165 was what I was waiting for to make up my mind on a much needed smartwatch. proud 2 week Pace 3 user here!
Thanks for your feedback!
This 165 or coros pace 3 overall?
It’s Garmin’s response to the Pace 3 and it is nowhere near as good. Having said that Coros now need to up their game re AMOLED screens and if they can do that and keep them cost effective that could really eat into Garmin’s margins. The problem with Garmin now is too much choice and inconsistency of models - You can have a watch with training readiness and one without in what are the same pricing points. They really need to smooth out their models
coros pace 3 or fr 165 is the best value for a beginner runner ?
Pace 3
glad i just bought the 255 for 30% less than the 165 😅
Does it have gyroscope?
What for?
Exactly. For what? Why is it needed?
@@marvin7533 Are you guys serious? It improves the tracking accuracy of pretty much every activity in the watch. Why do you think the higher models have one?
@@firstnamelastname5736 to justify the price increase?
Thank you, I could tell it was all gimmick and it was intentional by Garmin so real runners choose their more expensive models. Coros has its shortcomings but at least they offer more useful and comprehensive features in their Pace 3 (same price). If Coros Apex Pro 3 has amoled, Training readiness and more health features, it will be the best running watch.
as the latest watch albeit not premium, it's disappointing to see how THICK the bezels still are in 2024!
The thick bezel allows for a larger battery underneath... you could fill that with screen, but then you lose in battery life
so, the navigation is useless :(
Running watch with bad GPS ? 😂