Mr Drains #44 - Milwaukee M18 Fuel Sectional Sewer Machine & Jetting
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2020
- Milwaukee loaned me a M18 Fuel Sectional Sewer Machine to test out for a few months so I thought I would show the machine in action. Sadly this machine has been a disappointment since Day-1.
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I don't recall ever hearing "mountain climber" as a prerequisite for drain cleaners, until now...🤣😁
With all due respect to a master of his chosen profession of drain clearing, and the tidiest on YT may I add, I have to say that a certain other Antipodean drain master would have had the drain cleared, the lawn watered and fertilized and his pet plastic rat fed in half the time it too you to wrestle with the Milwaukee M18 to get this done. Remember, your videos are essential to us non essential workers, so stay safe and healthy.
I agree William, jetting would have been quicker, but thought it worth demonstrating the Milwaukee Sectional machine for anyone thinking about buying one. My advise to anyone thinking about buying one, is to test one on several drains first to make sure its suitable to their drain cleaning environment.
Once our COVID-19 Alert Level drops, I will be dropping it back to Milwaukee as the machine is unsuitable for my application.
Mad respect for how hard working you are with having to wear that suit , second time watching
That Milwaukee looks like more work than it's worth.
Very good job
Welcome back guys! I was starting to worry. ^_^
love your channel!
Stay Safe bro.Nice seeing you with a
machine
Thanks, you too!
Good Job! Beautiful country.
I would love to get over there sometime.
Very good work
this is a very good job
Almost got the boss to buy me one... glad you made a realistic review
Definitely worth avoiding until they fix the wheels, ergonomics & low power.
Thx for posting! I'll go with the Spartan.
We don't get Spartan over here, but if you are interested in a sectional machone, I hear Milwaukee's M18 7/8" Sectional machine is supposed to be good, better than the Ridgid K-60.
Lots of hauling stuff. Field test win. ✔
Although I like drain Addict as well he is much messier. The British and American drain guys are also good but I find your channel a nice blend of everything
Thank you Stephanie, so nice of you to say.
DrainSpotters you’re welcome mate. Can’t wait for your next videos
Drain addict will flood a bathroom jetting a line through a toilet. LoL, he's talented but don't give a fug
Ridgid k60 is the best of both worlds. You can do big and small jobs with it.
I have to agree Trevor. The K-60 is a great option.
I read these comments and laugh. Every machine has its place and time, I own 3 spartan drums(1065-100), Ridgid sectionals(60 and 1500). Cant carry them all in my truck at the same time.if I drove to my shop for each mainline to grab equipment,i wouldn't always grab the same machine. C'mon guys... why such silly envy and discord?
Well.said. I've used Milwaukee's new M18 Chain Snake (Flex Shaft) machine this morning so I'll have a video out tomorrow.
@@jaydrains2247 it honestly depends on what the user likes better and prefers. I know drum guys that swear the 300 is the greatest thing out there. I know sectional guys that feel the same way about their k50, k60, k1500, etc. personally I think the k60 or k5208 is better just because it can spin a 7/8 cable. The k5208 can spin 1.25 inch cable. But I also own a Spartan and love it too. Different situations call for different setups of course. My advice would be to own a sectional and a drum machine if you can afford it
Plumber and drain cleaner of 30 years I love general brand. Works and lasts And a drum machine is my preferred machine over a sectional. The weight of a drum machine sucks. But I don’t worry the cable will disconnect and I’m my opinion more power with a drum machine. I have tried all brands and all fads was hat came out over the years. My personal opinion general wire spring. Drum machine and jetters
I do like the drum machine, but with the hills etc in my city I would need a hip or spine replacement when I retire lol.
Yes the general or Spartan drums are nice
Does it have a power cord option or is it battery only? We use to use Ridgid sectional machine but stopped when we got a jetter even they lacked horse power but you could take them on the roof , it's heavy taking a big drum to the roof
Hi David. Battery only, but my opinion is the Milwaukee sectional who make a great paper weight once it went through a junkyard crusher lol.
Never had a problem with ridgid k60 👨🏽🔧🤷🏽♂️
Yip. The K60 is a good little machine but it would be nice if they increased the HP on it just a little.
I agree. That Milwaukee is. Disappointing. The better would work better with a root cutter nozzle on
It was disappointing to say the least, just glad I didn't buy one.
Good wrk mate ,try the wire doesnt wrk go bak to jetting.
Looks like you know what you are doing. I am a licences plumber from California myself. Looked like a job for the jetter with all the fat and the distance you ran. Kind of a noisy machine the M18 sectional machine possibly the self feed? thanks for the video
I'm not a fan of the self feed on this sectional as sectional cables are more springy so when it encounters a lip, bend or blockage it can overfeed out cable especially if you are clearing a drain via a trap & it can over pull the cable when coming back out from a trap.
But let's talk body cam, what are you using?
Spartan 300 is the way to go
Drum machines are not a big seller over here due to the terrain, sectional machine & jetter's are king so to speak, but you are right, the Spartan 300 is a good machine, especially when compared to this paper weight Milwaukee.
300 wouldnt get it
How do you like the milwaukee sectional? Im was considering asking my boss to get one for me since im Mr Armweak and have trouble getting the 240lbs mainlines up stairs
Stay clear of the large Milwaukee sectional. Luckily this unit was sent to me to trial so I didn't loose any money buying it. I've read good things about the smaller M18 Sectional, but we don't get it down under in 'God Own Country'.
Why you do like the machine, seems pretty easy to handle, I know heavy.
I just bought one,
i am a Plumber with a old ridgid K 1500 was your disappointment the Power or the run time with this machine
Very disappointed with this machine, but I hear the smaller machine they make is a lot better.
@T.J. H I wasn't able to return mine although I should have
I'm in the market for a drain auger.
How has the sectional auger held up over the years?
Do the batteries have enough juice to get more than one job done?
Do the batteries hold up after a few years of use?
Borrow or hire one first as I rated my experience about a 2 out of 10.
Gorlitz mainline machine would have man handled those roots
Yip, I'm sure the Gorlitz would have owned this drain unlike this piece of junk Milwaukee Sectional.
Gorlitz all day , I don't understand why people use these sectional it looks like way more work & what's with the suit
What happen to your ridgid k9 ? Is it garbage after the time u had with it ?
Still have the K9 & its still running great. I think each operator has a different story to tell when it comes to what equipment they like & don't like, especially as drains are different around the world & what works for some operators in certain locations might be a PITA for guys in other locations. Now that I am done testing the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Sectional Sewer Machine I will get back to running the K9 some more.
What makes you dicide when to use the snake as apose to the water jet
Usually access & in this case I wanted to see if the M18 was up to the job.. :( sad face as it wasn't.
Does the Milwaukee only turn when the handle is pushed down? Are you familiar with these sectionals? Your technique of feeding from the back makes it much more awkward to use then feeding from the front. Why are you using 7/8 and not 1-1/4?
Hi Ben.The machine only turns when the handle is pushed down & I typically feed from the front as well, but thought I'd show the folks it can be done from both ends. I have run both size cables in the machine, but chose to run the 7/8" (22mm) cables as my sectional machine of choice is the K-60, The Milwaukee is marketed as being able to run both size cables & had the machine been any good for me, I would have wanted to continue using the 7//8" cables with it as I work in some gnarly places & my little van can only carry so much lol.
I love my Milwaukee M18 Switch Pack & have done hundreds of waste-pipes & internal 4" drains with it, but for me this M18 Sectional Sewer Machine has been nothing but a disappointment regardless of cable size used.
This machine should have been built to run on Milwaukee's big MX battery system the as the 18v/12ah battery just can't go the distance unless its a short & easy drain. The handle is uncomfortable & vibrates & the wheels are too small so you end up dragging against the bottom of the frame if wheeling it up or down stairs. It is uncomfortable to carry no matter how you try & it should have been built so you can stand it up ended for better storage.
Some guys might say what am I talking about, they love this machine & thats ok, but for me, as soon as our COVID-19 Alert Level down drops to level 3 I will be dropping the machine back to the rep as it serves no useful purpose to me, certainly not for $4200 NZD.
@@mrdrains2088 damm good info. I hope it was sent to test and you didn't have to waste that much on it.
@@sewerroundtablereview4929 It was sent to try out since I liked their Switch Pack so much & admittedly I almost made the fools error of buying one untested, thank goodness I took them up on the offer to try it free for a few months.
@@mrdrains2088 I'm surprised to hear about those types of issues. Milwaukee had a preshowing at the NPS 2019 with a few media influencers familiar with sectional machines....I wonder what they thought about it? Any possibility you got a beta version and maybe Milwaukee will correct the issues you found? Although from personal experience, by the time it's painted the final color scheme, manufactures don't care about how well it performs, only if it will sell and spending time to give feedback is a waste of time. I am seriously crossing fingers Milwaukee will come out with a sewer camera lineup to give me more options then just Ridgid.
@@sewerroundtablereview4929 They loan't me the machine mid December 2019 & the rep said it literally came straight from their factory in China & even had the little production stickers they remove before packing into a nice pretty box.
I think I got a production model, but hope they can improve it in Gen 2, but its ergonomics are so unpleasant & I forgot to mention it feels so under powered when hitting wipes, sanitary products or medium + roots.
I like that Milwaukee is pushing the envelope & hope they get into camera's as more camera options would be fantastic, but I definitely will be picking up a MinFlex camera with a 40m cable length upgrade.
Bro you need a plastic kiwi bird to stick next to the drain at each job if you get my drift. Feed it a little corn. Also finger through the shit unnecessarily as much as possible. Watch your views skyrocket...
Very good lol.
What is the advantage to these sectional machine
This is the larger one from Milwaukee & I would not recommend anyone buys this model. If you wanted a battery sectional machine I would recommend trying their smaller 7/8" (22mm) sectional machine as whilst we don't get it down under, I've heard it is better.
Down our way, we don't really use drum machines much, as they are heavy to wheel/carry around our hilly country & Ridgid just pushed sectionals so that's what became the norm for most plumbers/Drainers.
Now days its all becoming about jetting/flushing drains.
A water jet would have worked a lot faster.
What type of gloves are those
Just cheap $5 gloves from the local plumbing store. Cheaper than buying the Ridgid gloves & they last a while.
what brand/model is the jeter ??
The jetter was a smaller machine loaned to be by a good friend as my Honda GX690 blew a head gasket on the night our country was going into a full lock down & I had borrow one as no stores were open. It is a 14-HP Chinese clone engine running a 19 Litres per minute (around 5 US gallons per minute).
Hate the link machines... drum machines has constant power. Mytana makes a great one
I like both, but larger drum machines are a bit too heavy for the terrain in my city.
@@mrdrains2088 that's true or hard to move in tight places.... I will not give up my Mytana drum machine and my Picote flexshaft
Throw that out, get a Spartan. Never buy another main sewer snake again.
He cant get them where hes at,
What are you wearing?
This was done during our Level 4 Covid-19 lockdown so its a disposable hazmat suit & full face powered air respirator.
Looks like a povo version of the drain addict
Different styles, typically less mess & more equipment to demonstrate.
RUclips is about sharing & variety, I mean you don't just eat the same meal, or watch just one TV show every day do you?,as life would get boring rather quick.
I think you need heavy duty cable, not this soft cable?
This is Ridgid cable & it generally deals to most drains no problem. In this case its the battery powered Milwaukee that's a let down.
@@mrdrains2088 Thanks , I will take this machine off my wish list
@@maggiedaniel8699 It was on mine, especially after I had great success with their M18 Switch Pack.
It would have been great tp have a capable battery machine for big drain cleaning, but unfortunately its design is too cumbersome, frame grinds on steps when trying to wheel it, wheels are awful & the handle vibrates the heck out of your arm.. very sad it turned out to be a waste of time, but happy it was on loan & I didn't spend my money on it.
What's price of the machine drain?
You don't wan this machine, its rubbish.
Bit disappointing on the battery life. And for what you paid for it not really cut out for the job
Lucky it was a loan machine, but it would have been nice if it worked as well a their Switch Pack machine.
How do these work on soft poop stoppages
I did not enjoy using this machine so thank goodness it was a loan machine from Milwaukee. It is cumbersome, poorly designed & a waste of time, at least given the experience I had using it.
How you gonna use that indoors
Luckily this was on loan from Milwaukee for me to try out & I quickly gave it back after giving it a thorough workout - I would not recommend it to anyone, but that's just my opinion.
@@mrdrains2088 is this machine too weak, why wouldn't you recommend ?
Be honest bro to all these Apprentices,Tradesman,Journeyman's,Master's out here would you recommend paying the money for this tool???
To borrow from classic Captain Lee - '“I would rather drag my dick through 10 miles of broken whiskey bottles than have"... one of these machines in my van... "again”.
Maybe the one they sent me to try was the dud out of the production batch, but I think it is what it is & thats disappointing.
@@mrdrains2088 seems only useful for an indoor job when a jet would cause a flood. Otherwise slow and frustrating!
@@MrJtappinIt was a very disappointing machine. For now I will be sticking with a wall outlet powered machine.
Lmao...the guy asked for your honest opinion...and you definitely delivered! 🤣
M18 for a machine like that .nope forget it. Some tools use too much power to even concider batteries. Power cords are not expencive.
I would have just used an Electric Auger
Yip, a K-60, K-1500 or a Spartan 300 would have dealt to the drain far better.
Is this worth buying
Not from the experience I had, but if you can test run their smaller sectional machine, I hear its supposed to be much better.
No it's not worth the price tag and it's not that powerful
@@OntstoppingsdienstNL Do you get two batteries with the purchase
Did that customer have the rona? Asking because the o2 recycler gear you have on
This was during our Corona lockdown so I had to ensure full safety gear was used to protect the homeowners & myself, just in case one of us had it.
Makes sense over here in Arizona we have to do the same thing buddy. Stay safe out there fellow plumbing brotha. Enjoy the vids
First all sectionals are more work ,and who's pre dinosaur piping is this put a clean out , look like some old ass drains were more the issue then the snake , plus jetting is alot lighter eqiupment , look like either grease or sand getting in the pipe , more a problem with it being age and poor piping , sometimes need couple of tools to do a job
Hi Mark, thanks for watching. Yes my preference would have been to use my jetter, but there's not a lot of videos showing the Milwaukee sectional in action so I chose to do one for you good folk as I knew this would be a good real world drain to show what the Milwaukee is capable of - not much & it has since been returned to the rep.
In my areas, there are some drains you will just not get a jetter unless its portable, so I have to run a sectional machine as well.
The pipe was full of roots & egg shells, the occasional lump of fat caught up by the roots. If I had brought the K-60 instead, it would have cleared the drain no problem.
DrainSpotters Ya, this is what they say it can do. Lack of battery life is the main problem and I’m sure that you could tell the power draining.
Is this machine as good as the rigid K60?
Hi Matt, a Ridgid K-60 is far far superior to this Milwaukee M18 Sectional Machine. This machine is terrible & I would not recommend buying it.
Never liked using an eel.
Hi George. Eels have their place, but this one was a disappointing paperweight.
Fuck dat
Why the hell are you grabbing your truck keys to pop the pins loose?!?!🤮🤢. All that hazmat gear and you use your keys?? Might as well lick the cable mate!
And then in the back of a van with no cargo barrier
I am cracking up watching this thing in action. There is no way this thing could go up against my gorlitz. No possible way. The camera is cool but this here🤣🤣🤣adding this for spartan users Spartans are junk for real ok maybe not junk but still can’t touch the gorlitz. Get a load of that space suit though 😂
Omg throw that machine in a river
please use final cut and you will be able to remove all that annoying noise in the background
Thanks for the tip - I'll look into the Final Cut.
Bro that milwaukee trash
why are you wearing that????
This was during the height of Covid-19 restrictions when only essential services were allowed to work & PPE (Person Protective Equipment) was required as it wasn't clear whether the virus could survive in sewage for a period of time. I was wearing a Level-7 disposable suit & a 'Powered Air Filtration Respirator'.
@@mrdrains2088 Unbelievable what they made you guys go through and what they will. Essential workers only allowed... Lol... On your knees and wait for what it will come. Wake up
@@mrdrains2088 Respect, You earned my sub. Masks are worst enough while plumbing
What a terrible system.
Agreed Jim, definitely not worth it for me.
I hope u made at least 375$ us. Everyone talking s*** man f*** sectionals have their place I don't care for them get yourself a drum .Spartan are overpriced just like gorlitz . Gorlitz store is literally 10 minutes from where I stay still wouldn't buy one. The big Marco drums are way better you attack the stoppage in reverse prevents binding, just hard to find cable and bits for them.
very weak and expensive car! there are cars that are much more efficient and more powerful, she barely turns the spiral
Yes, absolutely disappointing machine.
replace sewer. Machine you using sucks.
Wow.. are you having a bad day or something mate? I hope the 'you suck' part of your comment made you feel better.
There has been interest in this machine out in the drain cleaning industry. Milwaukee loaned to me the machine & I thought I'd demonstrate it on a real world job. The machine is terrible & hopefully I have save a few drain cleaners out there wasting their money & finally the owners are planning on having it replaced.
DrainSpotters yes. Sorry. Meant machine you using sucks. Hope offense avoided.