PANDA PROS REACT TO THE BEST PAC-MAN IN THE WORLD (Ft. ESAM & Marss)
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- It's undeniable. Tea and his Pac-Man has been making an impact in the Super Smash Brothers Ultimate tournament scene. Our Panda Pros react to Tea's tournament sets at Mainstage! It's time to take some notes on some great Pac-Man gameplay!
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It feels so good to be a tea fan and seeing him back in the U.S makes me even happier.
Haha yeah been a fan since his ditto against Ginko in Smash 4, went to and graduated college in that time.
as a pacman seeing him in us is so good
Yes my fewllo fan/ pac mian
yeah, awesome to see him compete in Japan, Europe and the US. Him doing so good is just another bonus
I just love tea’s gameplay dude
Cringe
@@soepbert Tea is nutty. Bad take plus ratio
@@jakebleyenberg8822 fuvlkkk not ratio
The only problem with watching him is that I don’t understand what he is doing most of the time
@@soepbert you brought the cringe
Tea is my favorite player to watch and I'm happy he is getting some praise for being such a talented player
As a pac-man main, Tea is by far my favorite to watch. I learn something new every set he plays
PAC-MAN is my secondary
I absolutely love Tea. Both the drink and the Smash player. Sending my love his way!
Don’t forget the letter T as well. Very under appreciated letter.
Of course Marss and Esam would react to tea being fellow rivals
11:40 I just realized this is the second time I've seen Tweek die on last stock, Game 5 for pulling out banana. When he survived Sparg0's Pyra up B at Port Priority, he did the same thing and Sparg0 punished it. xD
This was a joy to watch. I haven't seen a lot of expert Pac-Man sets, and I hardly ever encounter him online, so it's nice to see what kind of trouble you can get into. My method vs Pac-Man is usually to interrupt him switching items, attack the fire hydrant before he can, and stay out of the path of his projectiles or try to catch them and send them back.
A good Pac usually is fine with letting the opponent hit the Hydrant. Very few attacks that aren't smashes are enough to oneshot it so you're just letting him get the second hit to break it.
Pacman is stupidly fun dispite me not maining him. It's fun to play him from time to time
When Tea busts out a bell or a fire hydrant, that's when you know you're screwed.
“But Diddy Kong players… are a bunch of Kappers” made me fucking lol
Lesgo! Hope this one gets translated for the JaPanda channel.
I’ve been saying it since I mained the character , Pac-Man is absolutely broken he’s one of the only characters who absolutely has to hit the blast zone or he coming back and people don’t even know but melon kills at like 130 140 - can literally toss it out and follow up with some crazy combinations because they either respect it and move or you can react to whatever they do
What I learned from this video, is that Kola is a Grimes fan. Crazy, didn't think he would like that type of music, especially KillvsMaim lol
wadi's not here, now I don't know which of pac-man's moves are the ones that get ya :(
Pac-man is honestly such an underrated character. While Pac-man does do the same thing over and over again with the hydrant and bell, he's gonna be a top tier before we all know it.
PAC’s been a top tier
Hes been a top tier for a while. And tbh Pac neutral varies from MU to MU so I wouldn't say its *always* the same thing
When marss said that having to be in game mentality is hard is hella true now I don’t play smash at a top level but I play a vr game professionally and our games can last 40 minutes so we’re constantly in a game mentality in case ur wondering what game it is it’s echo vr
Miss that game
At 3:17 Marss says "imagine being able to punish pacman fair" as Roy shields, drops shield, and jabs it.
Did Tea fuck up/Kola got the read? That's a lot of frames to punish lol.
Kola read hed do something aggressive and shielded. Just looked it up and pac man fair is -6 on shield and roys jab is frame 8 out of shield. So Kola just predicted it and buffered jab outta shield to kill him. Nothing tea couldve done after committing.
I think Tea was fine if he waited a little longer to fair and/or fastfell
(checking UFD...) If pacman doesn't land, it's around -16 on shield, which is how long it takes for roy to jab OOS. But Marss isn't a nerd, so he doesn't know that.
Plus, jair is a strong punish.
Marss was being facetious.
Tea makes pac man look so fun to play. Love the diddy king racing music Panda! Top tier
I’ve been waiting for a tea video from panda for a while!
Yes love when tea gets love
I’m pretty sure at least 80% of Tweeks reason to go back to playing cloud in ultimate was because if pac man. That way he won’t have to waste thirty minutes of his life.
And zoners :) Also why do I see you everywhere?
@@okayperson3041 Shhhhh
I doubt he would pick up cloud for that when he already has wolf
@@surdine6671 yeah Cloud MU is even, whereas Wolf is one of our worst. Still not unplayable by any means, Pac is a top tier after all, but definitely a better pick.
@@surdine6671 Check out his RUclips channel, lots of cloud related content. And cloud Pac-Man is a horrendous matchup for Pac-man since cloud is extremely good against zoners, I mean you remember spargo versus tea? And I mean wolf isn’t bad against zoners, but tweek has shown to not be very confident in his wolf when he thinks his Diddy can do a better job even when the match up is against them. Since cloud has that huge advantage against zoners, it’s a no brainer to use him instead if Diddy when he wants his run back.
what the heck happened to the melon at 7:20
I've never seen it go that fast off hydrant
Kirby can combo into his final smash with forward throw. Pikachu and Pichu can also do it with down throw short hop final smash.
A lot of characters can do that. But he was making a joke that only Pac can do it in a competitive match since its a joke that his f smash is as strong as a Final Smash.
I love good Pacman gameplay
Tea and Tweek are two of my 3 favourite players. Props toTweek for doing so well in a match-up he’s not comfortable in. I love Tea and hope he makes huge upsets in future and at Summit!
I love Pacman so much idc what anyone says
I think it would be cool to see the smash pros play Super Smash Flash 2 for a video
Pacman DEFINITELY underrated but not broken
Nah he's broken. Dude has some absolutely insane shit and no crippling/highly exploitable weaknesses.
@@vick7868 every character has an exploitable weakness dumbass. For Pac-Man it’s his recovery and playing in his face constantly so he can’t use his fruit. U clearly have gotten outplayed by a Pac-Man player and salty about it 😂
@@floatsyourboat125 Why are you being insulting? I've been perfectly civil, I don't appreciate you addressing me like this.
Second I MAIN the character competitively and have for 3 years. His whole gimmick is his kit is a double edged sword but you can punish people for trying to catch your Fruit at certain ranges, and he has incredible scrap tools like nair, fair and dash attack. Hydrant is amazing for midrange since it forces people to play around it, which Pac is amazing at punishing, and has several escape tools in case that doesn't work such as the aforementioned as well as stuff like Galaxian and Bell from hand. Its kind of exploitable but when used right it is extremely hard to do so.
6:21 it was really unfortunate that diddy slipped on the banana again.
Hero D-Throw combos into Final Smash :D
I know this is all about Tea, but can we talk about the run Kola has been on??
He beat maister and that was it
Esam is analyzing the set the whole time while halfway through Marss starts ranting about smash bros like usual
having seen tea vs spargo its hard for me to call pacman broken
Spargo is broken
Pac is broken, but a) so is Sparg0 and b) Tea was lost in the matchup
Cloud does very well against Pacman. Like the kind of bad matchup that requires a secondary. Not even worth playing.
It was a bad match up and tea seemed like he wasn't really feeling it.
@@Contrary22 Lmao god no. Pac loses but it absolutely is not worse than -1.
Love when they wear the same shirt
As a Diddy main I am scarred By the info
You know Tea is a top 5 or 6ish player when MKLeo pops off after beating him in Frostbite 2020.
Wait, so he has a EWGF but he can throw it!?
Always has
Good way to put it yes. Bell is absurd.
Love the Pac-Man club mix!
4:11 damn marss hella intellectual. Gonna stick with that
Esam looks like the only one who is trying to actually analyze the set
Marss, the prototypical kapper Zerosuit main, saying Diddy mains are kappers is an odd mood.
Tea has always been great
If the character requires work is it broken? Pac obviously requires the time put in. The only thing that might be a bit off legitimately is the weight, but maybe Tea is also just a god at DI along with that.
Pacman really isn't that hard lol the combos aren't super difficult and his gameplan is prettt basic. it's just understanding set play for the most part
And anyway, a xharacter being hard to play doesn't mean theyre not broken. it just means it takes more work for them to be broken
@@lokks2130 When you say "the combos aren't difficult", does that include all the crazy Galaga stuff?
@@alexpotts6520 yeah lol. that shit isn't hard. u just learn to do the combo and the situations it's applicable in
@@lokks2130 As someone who main the character and has been solo maining for basically the entire game's lifespan... yes and no. The bread and butters aren't that hard, but optimizing them and getting the opponent in positions where you squeeze as much damage out of certain combos and setups as you can takes some real quick thinking.
50% of why Pacman is broken is because trying to pick up the bell as the opponent is so risky and just not worth most of the time. Let him keep his dummy frame data, recovery, grab and so on, but make bell easier to pick up. (Applies to Gyro too)
All you have to do is hit the be...
I mean you should run into the bell and always hit hydrant first
Remove every chracter Dabuz plays and in exchange Zss is removed. Very fair and balanced indeed
Pac-Man forward smash launch distance is fucking ridiculous. It sends you WAY too far in a really unfair angle where he could easily edge guard you.
Pretty good aye. I respect good pac-mans
I understand how and why Pac-man is top tier, but the flaw of learning Pac-man is that he's pretty difficult
He is, but that would make him feel even better to master, right?
@@vick7868 mhm
He calls it Pac-Man's final smash because it's the last attack he needs to end the game.
I want to see at a tournament tea is playing at, the entire crowd starts cheering "final smash, final smash" and if tea hits bell to f-smash they pop off with a "final smash" cheer
Meta Knight, Meta Knight is broken in terms of tier list placement but also in terms of moves working, like he's not top tier because up b doesn't connect, unlike ZSS. *MK STILL B META*
I need to learn some pac man lol
i feel like mars thinks every stage should not be legal. Like does he only want 3 dang stages
Pac man is not broken. Hes too slow, air speed is slow, grab is laggy, smash attacks are laggy 9:37, he has no zoning capabilities because none of his projectiles can be spammed fast enough.
Pac man is a free form trap character and because of that he requires high skill to have success with him.
Tea knows this thats why he often gets opponents at extremely high percentages 9:02 because hes been trying to secure kills using setups (9:10 hydrant , apple) cause smash attacks at too laggy (9:37 misses smash attack from a distance)
As a Pac-Man main, yeah he has his weaknesses but he absolutely is broken. Its just that he has a ton of ways to make up for those weaknesses. Such as yes, we don't have amazing anti airs, but we still have godlike options from dashback. And him being slow doesn't mean a whole lot since he is usually the one forcing approaches anyway. He has insane damage, godlike neutral, and can slow the game to a crawl. This dude is top tier for a reason, and part of that reason is having some of the best boxing tools in the game while also having some of the best camping as well.
And yes, he doesn't have spammable projectiles, but he doesn't need them to maintain a zone. His area denial is top tier.
No zoning with Pac-Man? That’s cap asfffff
@@KotaWebb Pac-Man can definitely zone well with combinations of his fruits and hydrant, but his zoning is still outclassed by other zoners, mainly because plenty of characters can punish hydrant placements super hard
What is this nonsense lmao pacmans the best zoner and it's not even close. You're an actual scrub if you think that lacking fast spamming projectiles means you have no zoning capability lmao, slower projectiles are literally better most of the time
"Oh this is laggy, that is laggy, he's too slow wahhh" nobody cares. Still broken. Y'all will always say something is laggy but never bring up the situations it's being used in and how it compliments the rest of his kit.
Name 10 meta relevant characters that can invalidate hydrant. Wolf, Byleth, Min Min, Shulk, Ike, Bowser and who else? Almost every character just has to deal with it, and even then for characters who can beat hydrant there's no ambiguity when you're approaching pacman behind hydrant so you just become predictable, he just outframedatas you and you reset
1:25 false mythra enters the chat
marss was technically correct, pac f smash is as strong as or maybe even stronger than roy's side b, which is essentially a final smash
and a pacman flaw is down tilt sux
And Up-Tilt
@@Phun-Bun d tilt is actually a decent poke. Up tilt is... eh. Niche move but eh. Honestly I'm more in the camp that up smash is his worst move. Bloody thing doesn't work half the time lol
@@vick7868 I would say, Down-Tilt is a decent move, I've definitely hit more Up-Smashes than Up-Tilts
tea is great, but boy HOWDY does he not look like himself when he doesnt have fluffy hair and a hat
Why is Marss yellow?
music?
"pac man is the only character that can combo into it's final smash"
He hasn't seen a terry or ken carry you off the stage then FS you
TEA LOVE? Hell yeahhh
Ye I'm a pac man main and he's broken
Marss "pac-man is the only character who can combo into there final smash
Dark pit "am I a joke to you"
(P.s I'm a causal player I know this stuff)
PAC man top ten change my mind
I've said it for a while now lol, no one believes me.
The bell is way too good. Please nerf. Why does it hit you when it’s falling from orbit and not just from his throw
They gave his Fruits the ability to retain their properties in return for removing infinite z drop stuff from Sm4sh. If you're talking about when he throws it and its going straight down then I personally think that's fair, it's the lingering that gets ridiculous.
@@vick7868 yeah the lingering is what I meant
I'm glad I main Pac-Man.
Tea my beloved
Since the game first came out, I thought pacman was top 5,even as dumb as I was and bad as I was at the game I knew how absurd this yellow gumball is
Why would you subject yourself to PacMan vs Diddy when Wolf is extremely solid, easy AND beats PacMan?
Because the two characters play very different games. Wolf is a jack of all trades, Pac is a technical setplay character.
I despise pacman, but Tea is so fucking good that I HAVE to appreciate the sauce he brings.
Someone needs to make a compilation of ESAM calling every character in the game "broken" so he will stfu about it
Most characters have at least one broken move/mechanic. He isn’t wrong.
This character is also top tier so I mean. He's justified in calling most high tiers or higher broken. And as the person above me said, most every character has at least broken mechanic/move
@@scottyjonas7592 just because a move breaks your expectations doesn't make the move broken. They all have an option to counteract it.
Hero fsmash killing at 0? Broken.
A combo connecting unexpectedly? Not broken.
Wait, whats the best item if bell is number 2
Banana maybe?
Banana? Turnip? Grenade?
@@charliecampbell6851 Galaxian probably lmao
@@vick7868 no shot. Galaxian isn't nearly as useful as bell, or as useful as those others I listed. Galaxian has one combo tree at only low mid percents and is pretty inconvenient to recatch. Meanwhile banana sets up for anything at any percent, can be regrabbed, thrown in any direction, etc.
@@charliecampbell6851 Eh... Galaxian has multiple combo trees as a wide variety of percents, leads to kills with the Ginko at like 50% if you're good enough to set it up, is piercing, and is not inconvenient at all to recatch in the same combo since you're usually doing in with a combo extending attack anyway. Either Bell or Galaxian is the best item in the game free. You get 0-65 combos off that thing easy if you know what you're doing, plus you can just infinitely recatch and throw again if you want, unlike Banana which goes away after a set number of throws and must be spawned again and recaught itself.
Them watching spargo when?
Why can’t Mega Man be as good as Pac Man? 😭
Mega Man is still absolutely ridiculous.
Tea t
6:51 that's what I hate about pac man as a diddy main, why tf he bounces so hard when he trip? down tilt and grab are simply useless in that moment...
9:37 i get pac man f smash is strong but its really not as crazy as you noobs make it out to be. It's not a reliable kill option because its so laggy and my point is proven here. Pac man missed one f smash and diddy was able to kill with down tilt and back air.
Look I'm going to be frank I'm gonna just disregard everything else wrong about this statement out of disbelief that you just called one of the world's best players a noob
I've been saying that Pacman is top 10.
To answer marss on pac-mans flaw there is only one answer.
He loses to pika (:
Actually no that mu is a volatile even
Honestly Pac wins lmao, ask both character cords. We can deal with tjolt and deal with pancaking on shield, plus get around a lot of his edgeguarding.
Was me making a joke misunderstood
Pac-Man is not as broken as Pyra-Mythra but he is kinda broken I’ll admit (pac-main)
Nah he's every bit as broken as those two
The one flaw pac man has is being not fun to play
He actually is really fun to play as once you master him just not fun to play against
@@okayperson3041 I can understand it. I am a Pac-Man main, have been for basically this games entire lifespan, and I love playing him but its so boring when I run into him as other characters or even in bracket as a ditto match
Pac-Man kinda busted
Pac man is probably my least favorite character in the game but tea is just really good at this game
Conveniently not showing Tea getting absolutely torn apart by the mexican bros
Mexico is stacked
MORE WADI, LESS ESAM!!!!!!!!!
More Wadi, more Esam
Don't be salty
Ban Nairo
Esam is a living cringe
Ban Nairo