It is quite obvious that he was struggling with the pulling strokes on the Silky. Old habits are hard to change. But what ever feels best. I would hand down go for the Silky and probably could cut that log under 150 strokes with half the effort.
In all my years of using pull style saws I have yet to ever break a blade, not once. Also, Silky uses SK4 steel which is actually a high grade 1095 carbon steel.
cool comparison and i understand why you came to your conclusion. i know you acknowledge that breaking the silky was user error, but i just wanted to point out that if you’re putting *any * pressure on the push, it’s being used incorrectly. it’s designed to be cut using a circular motion with no engagement on the push. easy once you get the hang of it.
The F180 wont just open up on you... You have to overcome a far amount of resistance before it will even open up. Its not like its just going to flip open on you. I don't see where safety is a concern with either saw. The Laplander with its slightly softer blade is certainly more forgiving if you are just going to go willynilly on it.
Great video and a very honest comparison. The laplander is more forgiving when cutting, which it is common issue with breaking the tip, however I personally prefer the Silky. I have a Silky Gomboy 240, which is slightly bigger then the Laplander but cuts a lot better.
I the Gomboy 240 is about 9 inches long and I believe its a few ounces heavier. There are some good reviews on RUclips that would give you a full breakdown of size and weight.
The general technique of cutting with any kind of saw is PULLING, so end of the day, if you don't know how to use a saw properly go with Bahco. Otherwise Silky all the way.
Thank you very much. I’ve been eyeballing these two for backpacking and the safety is enough reason to me. Also the Laplander comes in a bundle with a decent mora type knife for about 30. So it’s a pretty good all round kit
I have the Silky Gomboy and never realized the angle of the teeth was favoring the draw, thanks for the info, I'll now be able to use it more effectively!
5:56 However, when using the Silky you were working on a wobbly piece, whereas with the Bahco it was stable, supported at BOTH ends. This makes a big difference! You should have cut the log then done both cuts under the same conditions. 8:27 Thanks, and yes I disagree with you. Just about everything in setting up and conducting the test was stacked against the Silky, and it still outperformed the Bahco. Yet, you recommend the Bahco. Your point about the simplicity of the Bahco is valid, but I would have thought that after 2 years you might have mastered the proper technique. Judging from the fact that you broke the blade (it did not break) is evidence that your predominant style is the one you've used with the Bahco and internalised into muscle memory. However, given that the Laplander IS a fine tool, it is probably best that your continue with it as your main preference. This was a good test but how about an updated video introducing some more consistency? Cheers
I'm building a survival kit into a large Trangia Mess Tin which will itself fit into a Maxpedition Pocket Organiser Beefy (or a Chubby, depending on what/how much fits into each bag). The cutting tools are the Mora Companion Heavy Duty knife, Silky Saw F180, GB Mini Hatchet and a Victorinox Huntsman SAK with anti-slip scales. I want to build a compact, lightweight kit of high quality/high capability contents with no wasted/lost space into which useful items could fit. Once opened, everything fits into grouped ziploc bags, which fit into drybags. I chose the Silky Saw F180 for its quality/capability and light weight, because although the SAK Huntsman has a saw I wanted a more capable primary saw. As with the original Gerber Sliding Saw and its Fiskars counterpart, there are really good saws which weigh virtually nothing (the SAK Huntsman is the smallest, most capable that I've seen). Edited for typo.
As a old Explorer Amazon I prefer tools that are Gorilla proof over speed as Indigenous people often will grab your gear who may have no knowledge of how to use it so a true lock on closing is best for my use case Scenario. I am out for 6+ months without resupply so Gorilla proof is best. Love the video. Hugs P.S. I solo explore so the safer is better that's why I am now old. Gorilla proof and a safest possible!
I have been searching for a better saw. The current saw I have is a cheap kobalt brand and it is terrible. I lost my original saw (unknown brand) kayaking.
I have heard great things about the Silky gomboy but haven’t owned myself. Both of the saws in this video are great pruning saws though I certainly would not want to cut much wood bigger than what I did in this video 😓
Silky's blade breaks like glass, Bahco will keep cutting to the end of days without ever breaking. Bahco is also designed to cut many different materials, while Silky is made to cut fresh green wood. Can't compare different tools.
@@ExploreYourLand Yeah I just recently had a hard time with laplander, so I'm going down the rabbit hole to find a replacement. For things like this I usually try something completely different, so that I can make up my own mind on the 3rd purchase. All that said, the video was still very helpful.
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It is quite obvious that he was struggling with the pulling strokes on the Silky. Old habits are hard to change. But what ever feels best. I would hand down go for the Silky and probably could cut that log under 150 strokes with half the effort.
In all my years of using pull style saws I have yet to ever break a blade, not once. Also, Silky uses SK4 steel which is actually a high grade 1095 carbon steel.
cool comparison and i understand why you came to your conclusion. i know you acknowledge that breaking the silky was user error, but i just wanted to point out that if you’re putting *any * pressure on the push, it’s being used incorrectly. it’s designed to be cut using a circular motion with no engagement on the push. easy once you get the hang of it.
The F180 wont just open up on you... You have to overcome a far amount of resistance before it will even open up. Its not like its just going to flip open on you. I don't see where safety is a concern with either saw. The Laplander with its slightly softer blade is certainly more forgiving if you are just going to go willynilly on it.
Great video and a very honest comparison. The laplander is more forgiving when cutting, which it is common issue with breaking the tip, however I personally prefer the Silky. I have a Silky Gomboy 240, which is slightly bigger then the Laplander but cuts a lot better.
Andy Clarke never tried the gomboy but heard lots of great things about it! How does it compare in weight/size to the f180 or laplander? Just curious
I the Gomboy 240 is about 9 inches long and I believe its a few ounces heavier. There are some good reviews on RUclips that would give you a full breakdown of size and weight.
The general technique of cutting with any kind of saw is PULLING, so
end of the day, if you don't know how to use a saw properly go with Bahco.
Otherwise Silky all the way.
I would say smaller teeth for bushcraft and larger teeth for clearing and pruning (rougher finish)
Thank you very much. I’ve been eyeballing these two for backpacking and the safety is enough reason to me. Also the Laplander comes in a bundle with a decent mora type knife for about 30. So it’s a pretty good all round kit
I have the Silky Gomboy and never realized the angle of the teeth was favoring the draw, thanks for the info, I'll now be able to use it more effectively!
5:56 However, when using the Silky you were working on a wobbly piece, whereas with the Bahco it was stable, supported at BOTH ends. This makes a big difference! You should have cut the log then done both cuts under the same conditions.
8:27 Thanks, and yes I disagree with you. Just about everything in setting up and conducting the test was stacked against the Silky, and it still outperformed the Bahco. Yet, you recommend the Bahco. Your point about the simplicity of the Bahco is valid, but I would have thought that after 2 years you might have mastered the proper technique. Judging from the fact that you broke the blade (it did not break) is evidence that your predominant style is the one you've used with the Bahco and internalised into muscle memory.
However, given that the Laplander IS a fine tool, it is probably best that your continue with it as your main preference.
This was a good test but how about an updated video introducing some more consistency?
Cheers
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback 🙏🏼
thanx for video. as I'm going to buy a saw so your comparison was just in time!
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I'm building a survival kit into a large Trangia Mess Tin which will itself fit into a Maxpedition Pocket Organiser Beefy (or a Chubby, depending on what/how much fits into each bag).
The cutting tools are the Mora Companion Heavy Duty knife, Silky Saw F180, GB Mini Hatchet and a Victorinox Huntsman SAK with anti-slip scales.
I want to build a compact, lightweight kit of high quality/high capability contents with no wasted/lost space into which useful items could fit.
Once opened, everything fits into grouped ziploc bags, which fit into drybags.
I chose the Silky Saw F180 for its quality/capability and light weight, because although the SAK Huntsman has a saw I wanted a more capable primary saw.
As with the original Gerber Sliding Saw and its Fiskars counterpart, there are really good saws which weigh virtually nothing (the SAK Huntsman is the smallest, most capable that I've seen).
Edited for typo.
Sounds like an amazing project! The Silky F180 is a great saw and sounds perfect for your setup. Let me know how it turns out!
well im set on a silky.i saw many of these test vids and this is the first one that didnt pick the silky.
Silky is a good saw… just careful not to put too much pressure on the tip 👍🏼
the dude quite clearly doesn't know how to use silky properly. it's a much better tool the it looks from this video.
Thanks
As a old Explorer Amazon I prefer tools that are Gorilla proof over speed as Indigenous people often will grab your gear who may have no knowledge of how to use it so a true lock on closing is best for my use case Scenario. I am out for 6+ months without resupply so Gorilla proof is best. Love the video. Hugs P.S. I solo explore so the safer is better that's why I am now old. Gorilla proof and a safest possible!
I am also on Amazon and agree that indigenous people I encounter there are very dumb.
I have been searching for a better saw. The current saw I have is a cheap kobalt brand and it is terrible. I lost my original saw (unknown brand) kayaking.
I have heard great things about the Silky gomboy but haven’t owned myself. Both of the saws in this video are great pruning saws though I certainly would not want to cut much wood bigger than what I did in this video 😓
Silky's blade breaks like glass, Bahco will keep cutting to the end of days without ever breaking. Bahco is also designed to cut many different materials, while Silky is made to cut fresh green wood. Can't compare different tools.
Here's a better more efficient way to do things. Nope, I reject better, no thank you.
😂 valid point. I guess for me the difference just isn’t big enough. I’ve had the silky bind on me and like I mentioned, the tip is a bit fragile.
@@ExploreYourLand Yeah I just recently had a hard time with laplander, so I'm going down the rabbit hole to find a replacement. For things like this I usually try something completely different, so that I can make up my own mind on the 3rd purchase. All that said, the video was still very helpful.
@@Kevinschart checkout the Silky Gomboy… little bigger/heavier but probably would cut 10xs better than both of these.
Ставлю- нахрена в лесу ровный спил? Быстрорез-да.
Silky's steel, SK4 or SK5 is more a carbon than stainless steel!
Nope.
Heck yea bocho for the win all day everyday
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