Vanguard Jazz Orchestra - Mean What You Say

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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    VJO in Germany 2009
    TRUMPETS
    Nick Marchione
    Frank Greene
    Terell Stafford
    Scott Wendholt
    TROMBONES
    John Mosca
    Luis Bonilla
    Jason Jackson
    Douglas Purviance
    WOODWINDS
    Dick Oatts
    Billy Drewes
    Rich Perry
    Ralph LaLama
    Gary Smulyan
    RHYTHM SECTION
    Micheal Weiss(piano)
    John Riley (drums)
    Martin Wind (bass)

Комментарии • 82

  • @frederickhill7181
    @frederickhill7181 5 лет назад +9

    Thad Jones' music should never be forgotten or taken for granted. Hard to believe this stuff is over 50 years old; it sounds so fresh.

  • @bix56
    @bix56 3 года назад +6

    It's always challenging to read comments and realize some are going to being contrary no matter how wonderful the musical experience is. As a professional jazz trumpet player in Atlanta, let me just say that Scott Wendholt played beautifully on this. If you can't hear this then pick up a trumpet, learn to play it and then play a tricky tune like this and solo for several choruses without missing anything. Then come back and comment. Until then, maybe keep your comments more positive or at least know what you're talking about.
    This is one of the best bands to ever grace a stage, period.

  • @agoldenjazz
    @agoldenjazz 10 лет назад +31

    Scott Wendholt sounds so friggin' good on this.

    • @sambadojazz
      @sambadojazz 5 лет назад +2

      You got THAT right. Also, Michael Weiss' opening solo is quite tasty.

    • @Djangolulu
      @Djangolulu 4 года назад +1

      What an amazing, creative soloist. Can't get much better. Beast!

  • @thesaxbro
    @thesaxbro Год назад +2

    Scott’s solo was brilliant! Ralph really blew me away too. I love hearing both these guys solo.

  • @sambadojazz
    @sambadojazz 5 лет назад +4

    This is easily the best recording of Mean What You Say I've ever heard. I'm picturing in my mind Thad smiling.

  • @goldfishatearth
    @goldfishatearth Год назад +2

    Great band and great solos. Clear lines and direction. Wonderful to listen to. Thank you for this great recording.

  • @heypepper
    @heypepper 11 лет назад +16

    Arturo Sandoval has cracked notes exactly like that at least 50 times in all of his recordings like that. Who cares. dude tore it up. Whoever made that comment I doubt can play nearly that well.

  • @mvenora9387
    @mvenora9387 9 лет назад +8

    Scott sounds GREAT.

  • @dfjazzzzz
    @dfjazzzzz 11 лет назад +37

    Whoever commented on Scott's sound and cracks needs to get out and hear more live music...If you would've listened, you would've noticed that he played some real nice lines and some cool chord substitutions. Studio recordings give people a false sense of real life. If you don't believe me, go listen to Taylor Swift live...good God man! I heard her at the Grammys a couple years back...yikes!

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      @enriquezechariah3660 3 года назад +1

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      @lorenzocarmelo6781 3 года назад

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    • @blakebradley829
      @blakebradley829 2 года назад +1

      @@enriquezechariah3660 I love you for saying this as a reply to a RUclips comment about live music. It’s like you thought the reply button was somehow google lmao

  • @frederickhill7181
    @frederickhill7181 5 лет назад +9

    There is an upside to being over 70: I heard Duke, Thad & Mel,, Buddy Rich, Mingus ...LIVE

  • @ThirdValve
    @ThirdValve 11 лет назад +2

    Scott is a masterful and beautifully lyric jazz player!

  • @TheRealSurrealDeal
    @TheRealSurrealDeal 5 лет назад +3

    oh man that LINE at 5:44, Scott's playing is sooo nice to listen to.

  • @johnnovaria9044
    @johnnovaria9044 10 лет назад +3

    Love this number. The changes are just ... delicious.

  • @rickrinner252
    @rickrinner252 11 лет назад +2

    Michael Weiss is the best sub on Earth

  • @ThirdValve
    @ThirdValve 11 лет назад +4

    And Nick... is a "beast".

  • @funkygrooveman
    @funkygrooveman 13 лет назад +2

    Scott Wendholt is the man!!!:)

  • @alexschuetrumpf4243
    @alexschuetrumpf4243 6 лет назад +6

    Nice Joyspring quote at 5:24.

  • @johnthomason8287
    @johnthomason8287 8 лет назад +10

    This is such a great TJML tune. I think some of the negative comments are probably due to purists who, like me, have just about worn out the original recordings where the soloists loved to crank down relentlessly on the flat-five thing at every opportunity. I'm all for taking an open-minded approach and seeing what newer professionals want to do with the tune. I'm liking this video.

  • @rdangelo
    @rdangelo 11 лет назад +2

    Yeah, Scott, yeah, Nick.

  • @joeschmo1332
    @joeschmo1332 11 лет назад +2

    Very cool band, great phrasing from the players.

  • @soapbxprod
    @soapbxprod 8 лет назад

    LOVE IT! MAN OH MAN, so SWEET and SWINGIN'...

  • @TatiMare0
    @TatiMare0 12 лет назад +6

    I thought I saw Gary Smulyan there. I would've liked to see him solo, he's such a great saxophonist.

  • @barrymosleyjazz2677
    @barrymosleyjazz2677 9 месяцев назад

    The very best...

  • @MarTTy4653
    @MarTTy4653 11 лет назад +2

    Great band, Nice thoughtful trumpet solo and a kickin' tenor solo. ;0)

  • @markslater3412
    @markslater3412 Год назад

    Brilliant! 😊

  • @Jaythomastenor
    @Jaythomastenor 11 лет назад +2

    Scott sounds great...Ralph gets a big piece of it too!!!

  • @benjaminbruni4193
    @benjaminbruni4193 6 лет назад +1

    Scott, you da man

  • @mrussojazz
    @mrussojazz 9 лет назад

    DAMN! Scott KILLS this tune!!! jeez!!!

  • @stpd1957
    @stpd1957 5 лет назад

    I love it

  • @jlevinson6
    @jlevinson6 11 лет назад

    Great trumpet solo!!!!

  • @OrqBaruchSoriano
    @OrqBaruchSoriano 11 лет назад

    Excelente Orquesta , y los solistas, muchas felicidades que sigan tus exitos Serge Bogdanov.

  • @soapbxprod
    @soapbxprod 8 лет назад

    For the original and best with Sir Roland Hanna in Mr. Basie's chair... search under:
    Thad Jones & Mel Lewis Big Band 1970

  • @VictrolaJazz
    @VictrolaJazz 13 лет назад

    Very nice!

  • @zinwah
    @zinwah 7 лет назад +3

    Fine performances all round. And who cares about the cracked notes if the output is creative and musical, as it certainly is here. Mr Wendholt has moments when he conjures up memories of the great Don Cherry (who was himself no stranger to cracked notes!)

  • @jefft022
    @jefft022 11 лет назад +1

    It is a shame that some cannot hear the beauty of Scott's ideas because he misses a few notes. Jazz is so much more than being a technician...

  • @JeffDunncom
    @JeffDunncom 11 лет назад

    You got that right!

  • @leolovestrumpet
    @leolovestrumpet 12 лет назад

    As many notes as Scott cracked, jazz is all about style, and he was grooving and had style, sounded great (Y)

  • @jaja8721
    @jaja8721 3 года назад +1

    2:13 Theme Start

  • @fedelovorne
    @fedelovorne 7 лет назад

    mejorazos del mundo!

  • @JeffDunncom
    @JeffDunncom 11 лет назад

    Yes - Martin Wind on bass.

  • @robertbloom1637
    @robertbloom1637 6 лет назад

    Ralph wakes it up !

  • @ronniewoodsbellmontsounds7045
    @ronniewoodsbellmontsounds7045 5 лет назад +1

    You would have to be an exceptionally good reader to tackle this stuff.

  • @MMSandYTGameplay
    @MMSandYTGameplay 4 года назад +1

    What horn is that that Scott is playing?

  • @danielalex8426
    @danielalex8426 5 лет назад

    Like

  • @oober349
    @oober349 12 лет назад

    "without a song" quote at 8:25

  • @johnnovaria9044
    @johnnovaria9044 9 лет назад

    Does the original with Thad's band exist anywhere?

  • @earlheinz
    @earlheinz 12 лет назад

    Using a different mouthpiece on the Trumpet Solo, maybe a bigger one for the sound. That´s something that kills your chops during such a long solo but such a great band!

  • @electrojazz14
    @electrojazz14 11 лет назад

    big baaad ussss

  • @kaunasprince
    @kaunasprince 11 лет назад

    I had not played for something like 40 years. You should hear how many notes I cracked, LOL :)

  • @kimpaterson976
    @kimpaterson976 12 лет назад

    Who gives a shit about a few cracked notes!! this guys a JAZZ player-- he's going for stuff, its about the reality of LIFE!! this aint freaking classical music!! Miles cracked more notes than just about anybody, & said WAY more.

  • @Jaythomastenor
    @Jaythomastenor 9 лет назад

    make that four hundred sweaty bodies meant to say

  • @scapjm
    @scapjm 12 лет назад

    Martin Wind on bass?

  • @kaunasprince
    @kaunasprince 11 лет назад

    That cat reminds me a little of Conte Condoli.

  • @robertbloom1637
    @robertbloom1637 6 лет назад

    He has one thing in common w diz anyway

  • @Cburrrrrrr
    @Cburrrrrrr 11 лет назад +3

    maynard cracked more notes in his improv than this guy any day! you can tell his whole improv had great ideas and color, so who cares if he cracked some notes.

  • @86controlagent
    @86controlagent 11 лет назад

    I would like you to know that many of us are informed enough to not think like this. Ignore that other guy...

  • @casbont
    @casbont 12 лет назад +2

    Typical trumpet thought process. Did he crack notes or not = quality of solo. Just making jokes, great band!

  • @vecernicek2
    @vecernicek2 12 лет назад

    @snargi Maybe he was loosing his lip after a few hours of playing? Or didn't play for a few days. Trumpet is a bitch. But he's still pretty good.

  • @agoldenjazz
    @agoldenjazz 12 лет назад

    just kiss me

  • @wwhitakerh
    @wwhitakerh 12 лет назад +1

    I'd rather hear Scott's cracks and clams than Wynton's regurgitation.

    • @sambadojazz
      @sambadojazz 5 лет назад

      Amen. How many guys out there like Wynton can you say are great lead trumpets or classical players. They are great at what they do. Don't compare them to Scott, though, when it comes to getting those lines out like Scott does here in this video. Wynton doesn't hear that stuff.. If he did, WE would hear it when he improvises.

  • @prognosis2112
    @prognosis2112 12 лет назад

    Haha, so true. Wynton doesn't bring anything new to the table

    • @Dana_Danarosana
      @Dana_Danarosana 5 лет назад

      I heard Wynton at Playboy Jazz Festival (Hollywood Bowl) a few years back and he played an entire 20 minute set of some weird quarter note "bup, bup, bup, bup," etc. So I totally agree!

  • @jackscruffy
    @jackscruffy 12 лет назад

    Do any of you guys notice something about the makeup of this band? Hint: It's Jazz music they are playing. Is anybody else concerned? I'm not going to say it. I mentioned it to a similar edition of the band one night at the Vanguard and they looked at me like I was Adolf Hitler. Really good big band though.

    • @Dana_Danarosana
      @Dana_Danarosana 5 лет назад +2

      I'm not entirely sure but I think this might be a racial commentary? If so, the only thing I'm "concerned" about is anyone who might feel similarly. Jazz is colorblind. By the way, you do know the origins of this group, right? SMH

    • @sambadojazz
      @sambadojazz 5 лет назад +2

      @@Dana_Danarosana I'm laughing, too. I remember a jazz call-in show on WPFW in Washington, DC about 20 years ago. Some guy called in and said, "White people can't play jazz. They can call it jazz, but it isn't." The host of the show (RIP) was black and he wasn't having any of it. If I had called in, I would have said, "I know, right? Miles hiring Bill Evans? Thad collaborating with Mel Lewis? What were they thinking???" But I didn't.

  • @jamied1969
    @jamied1969 8 лет назад

    I think that John Riley is a great educator but man he overplays on this. Mel's playing was beautifully spare and uncomplicated. He didnt show off....just swang like hell. This is a complicated mess mostly.

    • @sambadojazz
      @sambadojazz 5 лет назад +1

      In this video, John is doing exactly what you want out of a big band drummer. Mel was a little quieter, yes. Different style. But this tune needs accents. Quick ones, in between the horns. John nailed it.

  • @DavidLivingston01
    @DavidLivingston01 12 лет назад

    Wow, resorting to a personal attack as a response to my comment on one of the performers in this video. I was critiquing the performance not the player. I'd say more but I really don't want to sink to your level. And don't worry, I'll not respond to any more of your infantile replies. Have a nice day.

    • @sambadojazz
      @sambadojazz 5 лет назад +7

      You heard cracked notes? OK, I went back and listened for them--I heard them, too. Holy cow. I had been so mesmerized by the brilliant lines he was laying down that I completely missed the cracked notes until you pointed them out. Thank you for your service to Jazz.

  • @DavidLivingston01
    @DavidLivingston01 12 лет назад +1

    Scott Wendholt is a good trumpet player but not on this song. His tone wasn't great in parts of his solo and he was cracking notes at the top of all his runs.

    • @kendricbaines2415
      @kendricbaines2415 7 лет назад +6

      David Livingston did you listen to his lines lol. Or were you too consumed in the notes he missed.

    • @k5vg
      @k5vg 2 года назад +1

      @@kendricbaines2415 Exactly. If you're digging the lines, how do you even notice "cracks"?