What impresses me most about Grant Hill is the fact that not only was he a great athlete, but that came from money and wasn’t, spoiled, cocky, or egotistical. Probably the most humble NBA star ever. Shows you how important good parenting is.
Mark Price good point. Really underrated multiple time 50 40 90 4 time all stars higher free throw percentage in the history of the league. A 18 points and 12 assists guy on his prime
If Mark Price played in this era with his range, quick release, penetration, and vision, he would have been even better. Definitely would be giving dudes the business. He used to get it in against whoever when healthy. Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Heat, Sixers, whoever.
@@williamellis9851 Cool. I didn't get his autograph but I did meet/speak with him briefly coming out of a Kroger on Peachtree Industrial Blvd in Duluth, GA. I think that was Duluth once you get that far north on PIB. Anyway, this was right after what was probably his last run in the league with Orlando if I'm not mistaken. Real chill and a lot more muscular than he looked on TV.
@@miyagifatghost2684 lol the jkidd lead team not the Dirk led team...but Even still Mavs weren't considered juggernauts... nobody on that squad made the all Star team that year except Dirk. And Kidd was old when he won with Dirk and a bunch of other role players. So what's the excuse now for LeBron losing that year??
@@otownboy8749 I'm a Texas Boy so idgaf why LeBron losing now...Bcuz it's the Western Conference & he been fooling everybody over there playing JV ball & got exposed quick!!! That's why!
mrgetitdone85 this is true, but he’s been retired for 18 years. You’d think he would have enough equity to still get in considering some of the characters that have made it in.
Don't forget when Grant Hill was a senior at Duke he carried a weak team all the way to the championship against Arkansas. Coach K had him playing point forward which is rare in college because no more Bobby Hurley, plus Chris Collins and Jeff Capel weren't really effective at point. A lot of people overlook that part of his college resume. Mark Price was definitely legit. Steph was compared to Nash at least coming out of college because they were both very crafty with their handle and elite shooters while lacking elite athleticism, but yeah big difference passing wise. Paul's body language say he's definitely not over the Ray Allen thing.
Joshua Woodard he had 2 good games but had he not have gotten hurt it woulda been crazy to watch him be able to dunk like he used to an shoot like he is now
The La's didn't do it, he caught an infection when he was healing up and the Doctors were practicing on Grant they didn't see the infection setting in.
Basketball shoes is no good for everyday use. They were made for the hardwood arenas. Look at the Lebrons nikes, with the 3 velro straps. Most peoples who wear them , they joints look broke in and peter pan lookin... They dont hold up to bad weather
Grant Hill 22 points 8 rebounds and 7 assists a game in his first 6 years in the league (1994-2000) 1st round pick by Detroit out of Duke University 1994/95 Rookie of the year 🏆 4x all star ⭐️
All I remember about Grant Hill is that he stayed injured. That's actually a lie, I also remember that he came into a restaurant where my wife was the greeter. She wasn't a sports fan so she didn't know who he was. Also, he didn't act "high and mighty" when he gave her his name for the reservation, he acted like any other customer. He had to leave before he got his food because people kept hassling him but he was gracious to my wife.
Top 5 What Ifs in the NBA: 1. Penny Hardaway 2. Grant Hill 3. Len Bias 4. Greg Oden 5. Brandon Roy Honorable mention Ben Wilson even though he only was a high school player you have to figure being named the #1 high school player in the nation before his untimely death he was headed in that direction.
Tim Duncan tmac would of beat the east this was the after Jordan era the east was wide open n if Grant was healthy they would of had a title.....look what tmac did alone with no help with one of the worst rosters in nba history
@@billysnots8022 shaq n penny went to the finals n beat a Jordan (45) bulls team come on some of y'all don't really watch basketball just RUclips n go by the word of these uninformed RUclips's
What kind of doctors did Grant have man? Dude lived in the ER. Love your videos man. You've been posting some of the most intellectual videos covering a plethora of topics. Keep posting fam.
Think it had more to do with Tim knowing David Robinson was on his last legs and some unproven French and Argentinean were the real guys Popavich was high on. That 2003 team was all on Duncan.
I think Leonard is a better defender and Hill is a better passer. They're both great at scoring. I watched Hill and I can't say he was much better than Leonard. But that's just my opinion.
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I think Derrick rose is a bigger what if player than grant and penny. I mean youngest mvp, closed 4th quarters. Very high basketball iq. I believe in his 3rd year, he was def better than 3rd year lebron.
pharaoh ford yes. He was just scratching his potential. GHill was in his budding prime and was injured. Rose wasn’t even close to what he could have been. 25-8-4 his 3rd year with almost no help offensively is crazy, considering the Bulls played slow on purpose so their D could clamp.
Hill and another brother , Antonio Lang, i think. Coach K said after losing to UNLV, that he need to recruit a different type of player to compete. --- long , athletics, brothers.
Very entertaining analysis. As pertains to the effectiveness of hero ball, when Jordan did it, he was Achilles on the Trojan beach. When great-but-lesser (decidedly) talents like Paul Pierce and Allen Iverson did it, they were Ajax. And when the completely-failed Jordan imitators like Harold Miner did it, they were Patroclus lol.
And Chris Webber should've been in the HOF...people don't remember he got the better of Duncan and Garnett....injuries held him back, similar to Penny Grant and McGrady.
I would say Webber was probably the 3rd best power forward in the early 00s. It was around the time Duncan was winning awards and championships at the time and Garnett was also in the mix. Dirk didn't peak until mid 00s. It's a shame that the Kings couldn't go to the 02' Finals, in my opinion they definitely would of beaten the Nets.
why because u like webber? Dray has had a better career than webber. Skill and name dorsnt get u in the hof. Accolades do. Dray us a 3 time champ a 3x allstar, and a dpoy, and a gold medal. Webber's has okay numbers but nothing out of the average. His accopades arent comparable to drays either. U can't just let guys in just because they were good and popular. Accomplishment goes alot further than skill in the hof candicy.
CPGoat #3 Look at Draymond now, The Warriors made him. I’d take Chris Webber over him in a heartbeat because Chris Webber was able to adapt in different situations/roles, Draymond can’t play without Steph or Klay.
Shots fire at Westbrick lol. If Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway did not have those major injuries in their careers in the mid 90's they would win a chip.
@@mrwilliams1 I get that Brother but I'm just looking for a detailed breakdown or even some suggestions on what to look up to prove the difference between who the natives were compared to the ones that the world portrays as being the natives
Wrote a whole article about how many Native Americans and Latinos are black. Here you go. medium.com/@addisonsarter93/the-real-reason-latino-children-are-being-put-in-cages-861c2eefc1f7?source=linkShare-bd50415ba8be-1543015006
Shalom read Genesis 49 it'll tell you who the native Americans are. Shalom brother I'm Yahoshaphat Ben Israel king of Judah who family members knows as Melvin shalom brother.
Please don’t forget that Steve Nash played in a similar system with Don Nelson & the Dallas Mavericks. Don Nelson centered that Mavericks team around the likes of, Michael Finley, Dirk Nowitzki, with Steve Nash at the helm. Steve Nash became a free agent, & Mark Cuban didn’t resign Nash, which severed the relationship between Cuban & Nelson. This resulted in Nelson moving on to Golden State. Like D’Antoni, Nelson’s team’s were associated with an uptempo style of play, with a lack of defense.
Nelson was such a good coach player wise and helped BDiddy get his career back, helped Stephen Jackson find a good NBA home and allowed guys to smoke up before the game...fuck I wish I played on that team maybe just for the sesh and bench lol
Oh Yeah!!! Us Chicago Bulls fans remember Mark Price in the mid to late 80's. Cleveland Cavaliers usually had Bulls number during regular season. Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper, Larry Nance and Craig Ehlo. If people watched Harper he was unstoppable on both ends of the court and was good at guarding Jordan. No surprise Harper was on the second threepeat of Bulls, great defender!!!
Grant Hill: I wish he never got hurt and once he got hurt didn't try and play in that Miami playoff series. I'm glad he wound up doing well for his career because he was held back and was really a passive leader because he wanted to make everybody happy in his early years in Detroit. Remember, he was a free agent the season he got hurt which enabled the Pistons to pick up Ben Wallace who played for Orlando at the time. I was never a Grant Hill fan but I never thought he was "great" just a good player who would never push that button. I wanted him to do great things on the court and force his team to win but he was too passive when it came to winning at the pro level.
@@wooskionehundred1788 I am a 80's Baby from Boston.... The Lakers Had Kareem, Big Game James, Magic, Cooper, B Scott... We had a our obviously Big 3 but LA's role players was more talented. Hence why the Won More Rings. All I'm saying is you have to put 🐦 and Magic in the same Breath. Played that Atl game with his Left
mark price is still one of my fav players tbh.. stronger then you thought, faster then you thought. One of the firsts to split the dbl team. Had a wet 3, a sweet handle. Not the kind that sat there dancing around for 10-12secs with the ball, but he knew what he wanted to do and where he wanted to go and did it effortlessly. Was in the 50-40-90 club. He was most def ahead of his time when you sit back and think of his career. Guess cause i live here in cleveland i dunno, but he's still my fav player
Paul Pierce wanted to be Grant Hill. What I saw from that, in 1995 Vince Carter is 41 and still playing at an extremely high level. At the 1995 McDonalds All-American Slam Dunk contest no one wanted to finish because Vince can jump...
Thank you for the appreciation of more Detroit Pistons greats COJ. We have another in the making with Blake Griffin who is having an incredible season, but doesn't get a lot of credit. But Blake's game has evolved immensely. If it wasn't for the refs typically messing over our Pistons, we would of had an even better record at this point.
between 94 and 96 is when youth basketball was changing AAU was coming into play as far as year-round basketball and sponsors were paying for tournaments and paying coaches to form teams so they can advertise the merchandise
ChroniclesOfJudah 144 after T Mac and the magic lost to the pistons after being up 3-1, the next season they lost their first 14 games or so. T-mac said he wanted to retire. I remember that cause, I laughed so hard. And also I think Magic Johnson went of on Mcgrady for that statement
Jerone Davis you the real dummie iverson was a great player but nobody fucking with kobe bean bryant kobe is the shit in you know bro but at the end of the day it's nothing personal just basketball talk
Thats the problem with alot of people, they always looking at stats alone or chips, there are so many factors that go into winning the ball game like people say why couldnt T-Mac close out up 3-1 etc series as such but fail to appreciate how they could even be in that position in the first place I mean seriously, is it really fair? Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups and Big Ben Wallace vs T-Mac and some rookies, it crazy he went up 3-1 in the first place. 2001 He went up against Glen Robinson, Sam Cassell and Ray Allen. If I remember correctly, he scored like 21 straight points one game that series. He was always going against a stacked team but he always played better in the playoffs too, In my opinion, he shouldnt of had to carry that hard and still lose. His 02-03 season has never been replicated since and in the history of the game, MJ is the only person that has put up a statline better for a wing player. 32.1/6.5/5.5 on 30 PER in arguably one of the toughest defensive eras. (Hand check and Zone were legal).
+Sleezy TV TMac 2x scoring champ/10x AllStar...microfracture knee injury cooled him off...Kobe just bragged in his new book that was his toughest matchup because according to Kobe..."TMac could do EVERYTHING offensively". Grant made it and Penny will one day as well.
It was actually a big deal when TMac and Grant Hill teamed up originally. GRANT had a good season in Detroit the year prior but got the first injury that caused his demise during the playoffs..... everyone thought he'd come back the next season and kill. He rushed back and reagitated the injury in Orlando that's when people were saying he was done....not prior.
Michael Jordan was the greatest because of his impact on the *game* of basketball. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird made everyone watch the nba, Mj made everyone want get to the nba. Hence "like Mike".
OVER TMAC NAH??? Chris webber never had a memorable game plus he never stuck out like Tmac, Kobe , KG, Tim Duncan, Paul pierce, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd, Steve nash who really would remember chris webber except for that college game where he called time out.. Tmac is a beast and deserves HOF
Then single biggest advantage MJ has over LeBron in the GOAT debate, is that MJ was first. Had James entered the league in 1984 and Jordan entered the league sixteen yrs ago, it would be a MUCH tighter argument.
Not only am I not sure about the comparison but grants game had some finesse that kawhi doesn't have. Khwahis a 6'6" shooting guard (came into the league as defensive stopper like Jimmy Butler did) Watching , then studying the game , modeling after these players growing up allowed me to have a closer look at him. Both wonderful players tho. Grant was one of the first versitille small forwards that could rebound, pass, score, cross u up, post you, had a fad a way, could carry a team when needed and will dunk you. Plz find clip on what he did to Alonzo Morning ... Who was defensive stopper years after this clip. Nice vid good convo.!
You phrased that just right "THE GREATEST WHAT IF Players IN LAST 20 YEARS" excellent phrase! Not the greatest what if NBA history which is LEN BIAS! Next is i think would Mike of won 8 if he wouldnt of retired! This is what people wonder most about! I think Allegedly! Alledgedly!
do you think giannis is trending towards a Grant Hill type of mold. I ask because he struggles with his shot range like a grant hill did but his impact on the game; straight line speed [to get from A-B ] whether its Full or half court and ability to finish around the basket reminds me of Grant HIlls gm if i was to compare him to anyone.
@@WN_Byers i disagree. I think grant hills drive to win was noticeable. In fact, i think thats partially what derailed his career. If im correct, he came too son from his ankle injury in the playoffs. I think he struggled w losing and trying to figure out how he can win since he was expected to bring det back to the bad boys winning days
What impresses me most about Grant Hill is the fact that not only was he a great athlete, but that came from money and wasn’t, spoiled, cocky, or egotistical. Probably the most humble NBA star ever. Shows you how important good parenting is.
kkash72 Fr Grant Hill is a true role model.
Well said ... I 100% agree, byproduct of hood parenting and a patriarchal lead household.
this
FACTS
Most nba players are not spoiled, cocky, or egotistical, just a lazy stereotype.
Mark Price good point. Really underrated multiple time 50 40 90 4 time all stars higher free throw percentage in the history of the league. A 18 points and 12 assists guy on his prime
Agreed. Isisaiah Thomas of the. 1980"s. Pistons. once said. The toughest. Point guard for him to guard was. Mark. Price.
If Mark Price played in this era with his range, quick release, penetration, and vision, he would have been even better.
Definitely would be giving dudes the business. He used to get it in against whoever when healthy. Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Heat, Sixers, whoever.
Great guy too, gave me his autograph
@@williamellis9851 Cool. I didn't get his autograph but I did meet/speak with him briefly coming out of a Kroger on Peachtree Industrial Blvd in Duluth, GA.
I think that was Duluth once you get that far north on PIB.
Anyway, this was right after what was probably his last run in the league with Orlando if I'm not mistaken.
Real chill and a lot more muscular than he looked on TV.
@@thegutpunch1726 The reason he's a great guy is his involvement with Christ/not because he gave me the autograph.
I never knew that Duncan was considering leaving the Spurs!!
And for Doc to lose Duncan like that is Unforgivable!!!
Great video!!!
People forget that jkidd led a team of nobody's to the finals back to back...but yet LeBron some how is the 1st to do that smh.
Richard Jefferson was an Allstar
@@JuiceTelevision nope...look it up lol
Wait I hope u not talking about the Mavs as Nobody's?? That Nets squad maybe but the Mavs had a ROSTER plus a bench when Kidd won that ring!
@@miyagifatghost2684 lol the jkidd lead team not the Dirk led team...but Even still Mavs weren't considered juggernauts... nobody on that squad made the all Star team that year except Dirk. And Kidd was old when he won with Dirk and a bunch of other role players. So what's the excuse now for LeBron losing that year??
@@otownboy8749 I'm a Texas Boy so idgaf why LeBron losing now...Bcuz it's the Western Conference & he been fooling everybody over there playing JV ball & got exposed quick!!! That's why!
A point guard that’s not in HOF that’s better than 90% of the PG’s already in: Kevin Johnson. I don’t understand how he’s not in smh
mrgetitdone85 this is true, but he’s been retired for 18 years. You’d think he would have enough equity to still get in considering some of the characters that have made it in.
His crossover and pull up was crazy....his dunk over Hakeem was one of best all time
Rod Strickland
Wefriu
My first favorite player ever
Don't forget when Grant Hill was a senior at Duke he carried a weak team all the way to the championship against Arkansas. Coach K had him playing point forward which is rare in college because no more Bobby Hurley, plus Chris Collins and Jeff Capel weren't really effective at point. A lot of people overlook that part of his college resume. Mark Price was definitely legit. Steph was compared to Nash at least coming out of college because they were both very crafty with their handle and elite shooters while lacking elite athleticism, but yeah big difference passing wise. Paul's body language say he's definitely not over the Ray Allen thing.
Add Derrick Rose to the what if players even though he is ballin
Greg Oden, Yao Ming too
Joshua Woodard he had 2 good games but had he not have gotten hurt it woulda been crazy to watch him be able to dunk like he used to an shoot like he is now
Gilbert Areanas
Add Brandon Roy as well
The ultimate what ifs:
Len Bias
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
@threeballbanger different era for pgs
MAR was really really good
Them Fila's hurt his career mann😐
It was that 2A cushion Flia used, they took it out in the Retro's and replaced it with CMR.
I loved them Fila's tho
The La's didn't do it, he caught an infection when he was healing up and the Doctors were practicing on Grant they didn't see the infection setting in.
Basketball shoes is no good for everyday use. They were made for the hardwood arenas. Look at the Lebrons nikes, with the 3 velro straps. Most peoples who wear them , they joints look broke in and peter pan lookin...
They dont hold up to bad weather
I still rock the 96
Grant Hill
22 points 8 rebounds and 7 assists a game in his first 6 years in the league (1994-2000)
1st round pick by Detroit out of Duke University
1994/95 Rookie of the year 🏆
4x all star ⭐️
All I remember about Grant Hill is that he stayed injured. That's actually a lie, I also remember that he came into a restaurant where my wife was the greeter. She wasn't a sports fan so she didn't know who he was. Also, he didn't act "high and mighty" when he gave her his name for the reservation, he acted like any other customer. He had to leave before he got his food because people kept hassling him but he was gracious to my wife.
Top 5 What Ifs in the NBA:
1. Penny Hardaway
2. Grant Hill
3. Len Bias
4. Greg Oden
5. Brandon Roy
Honorable mention Ben Wilson even though he only was a high school player you have to figure being named the #1 high school player in the nation before his untimely death he was headed in that direction.
D.rose Tmac that new jersey nets kid from serbia back 8n 90s
@@kingyonis5182I forgot about Drazen Petrovic. I agree
1. Reggie Lewis
2. Penny
3. Oden
What about Abdul Rauf (can't spell his name but dude from ATL that walked away cuz of political reasons)
Jay Williams was also hyped up to be a star but got in a motorcycle accident
Tim Duncan would have made Orlando a championship team u have to be some type of special or didn't grow up in that era to think otherwise
TD was a legend
Need more than Tim, I mean Shaq couldn't do with Penny
@@billysnots8022 😂😂😂 you gotta be fuckin kidding me Tim Duncan and t- Mac can't beat the east 🤣🤣🤣
Tim Duncan tmac would of beat the east this was the after Jordan era the east was wide open n if Grant was healthy they would of had a title.....look what tmac did alone with no help with one of the worst rosters in nba history
@@billysnots8022 shaq n penny went to the finals n beat a Jordan (45) bulls team come on some of y'all don't really watch basketball just RUclips n go by the word of these uninformed RUclips's
What kind of doctors did Grant have man? Dude lived in the ER. Love your videos man. You've been posting some of the most intellectual videos covering a plethora of topics. Keep posting fam.
Orlando's finest. Ask Penny Hardaway about that.
TroubleChizzy2010 Calvin Hill played for the Dallas Cowbows.
I agree! C-webb over T-mac.... Webber was a beast on Nba Live 99...
Derrick rose you forgot him
Hes the reason alotta fans started to like Duke
This makes me think about the real reason that Kawhi left SAS? Bc if Duncan wanted out who the hell knows what goes on behind close doors
ARQ watch the nba storytellers channel on RUclips 🤣👍🏾
Think it had more to do with Tim knowing David Robinson was on his last legs and some unproven French and Argentinean were the real guys Popavich was high on. That 2003 team was all on Duncan.
You might with your your eye
Jordan changed the NBA and sports media. If Chamberlain played in the 80s and 90s he possibly could have done the same.
Kwahi Leonard's game reminds me a lot of Grant Hill's.
no indeed!!! go back and watch hill. Leonard is not quite there.
I think Leonard is a better defender and Hill is a better passer. They're both great at scoring. I watched Hill and I can't say he was much better than Leonard. But that's just my opinion.
Leonard's a better shooter while Hill was quicker.
@@vicshephard9231 Hill's crossover was better too
Not even close.
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I think Derrick rose is a bigger what if player than grant and penny. I mean youngest mvp, closed 4th quarters. Very high basketball iq. I believe in his 3rd year, he was def better than 3rd year lebron.
jeffrey horton facts. He was a 3 point shot away from taking the East over.
jeffrey horton
I love rose but nah.
@@JamesBrown-bz2xv Rose was indeed the biggest what if in recent years...derrick rose i watched all those televised games from TNT to WGN...word bond
pharaoh ford yes. He was just scratching his potential. GHill was in his budding prime and was injured. Rose wasn’t even close to what he could have been. 25-8-4 his 3rd year with almost no help offensively is crazy, considering the Bulls played slow on purpose so their D could clamp.
Dude was too feminine for me.
i would also add brandon roy to that "Only If" category of former players
Grant Hill is the reason why UNLV didn't win back to back NCAA championships.
Hill and another brother , Antonio Lang, i think. Coach K said after losing to UNLV, that he need to recruit a different type of player to compete. --- long , athletics, brothers.
Very entertaining analysis. As pertains to the effectiveness of hero ball, when Jordan did it, he was Achilles on the Trojan beach. When great-but-lesser (decidedly) talents like Paul Pierce and Allen Iverson did it, they were Ajax. And when the completely-failed Jordan imitators like Harold Miner did it, they were Patroclus lol.
And Chris Webber should've been in the HOF...people don't remember he got the better of Duncan and Garnett....injuries held him back, similar to Penny Grant and McGrady.
Its only because he lost to Shaq and Kobe
I would say Webber was probably the 3rd best power forward in the early 00s. It was around the time Duncan was winning awards and championships at the time and Garnett was also in the mix. Dirk didn't peak until mid 00s. It's a shame that the Kings couldn't go to the 02' Finals, in my opinion they definitely would of beaten the Nets.
If they put draymond green in the hall of fame and not Chris Webber imma be sick asf
why because u like webber? Dray has had a better career than webber. Skill and name dorsnt get u in the hof. Accolades do. Dray us a 3 time champ a 3x allstar, and a dpoy, and a gold medal. Webber's has okay numbers but nothing out of the average. His accopades arent comparable to drays either. U can't just let guys in just because they were good and popular. Accomplishment goes alot further than skill in the hof candicy.
CPGoat #3 Look at Draymond now, The Warriors made him. I’d take Chris Webber over him in a heartbeat because Chris Webber was able to adapt in different situations/roles, Draymond can’t play without Steph or Klay.
Shots fire at Westbrick lol. If Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway did not have those major injuries in their careers in the mid 90's they would win a chip.
LeBron do that Same shit but the media gives him a past. While his team is constantly getting their brain beat in. But hey, he got his numbers...
How would Penny Hardaway have won without Shaq? The Bulls crushed them when they were young.
Well, we'll never know but Penny at least made the Finals.
by beating who? certaintly not the bulls!
Grant hill is my favorite basketball player of all time
Rachel Nichols is a Lebron James Groupie though. She is always talking about how great Lebron is every chance she gets.
You haven’t heard of Doris Burke in 2k eh?
Derrick Rose is a pretty big "what if "
Judah can you do on video on the history of who The so called native Americans are
Lethanos 23 what about in mexico,Guatemala and countries like that.
@Lethanos 23 you are stupid....don't speak on subjects you know nothing about.
@@mrwilliams1 I get that Brother but I'm just looking for a detailed breakdown or even some suggestions on what to look up to prove the difference between who the natives were compared to the ones that the world portrays as being the natives
Wrote a whole article about how many Native Americans and Latinos are black. Here you go.
medium.com/@addisonsarter93/the-real-reason-latino-children-are-being-put-in-cages-861c2eefc1f7?source=linkShare-bd50415ba8be-1543015006
Shalom read Genesis 49 it'll tell you who the native Americans are. Shalom brother I'm Yahoshaphat Ben Israel king of Judah who family members knows as Melvin shalom brother.
yeesh I forgot how annoying Rachel Nichols is
You're the best. Your page and analysis remind me how much I used to love this game. Thanks for this page!
Mark Price was awesome, his first few years in the NBA. If he wasn’t hit with the injury bug, he’d be a Hall of Famer, no question.
Yep! At 6 feet even, he was a talent. I remember when Rick Mahorn tried to kill him!
Yep.....was dominant at GA tech too
Dr J’s game and cultural impact winning in both the ABA and NBA is greatly underrated
Lol..... Kevin Garnett going too need a carfare🤣🤣😂😂😅😅
Will Chamberlain look up his stats .,
Please don’t forget that Steve Nash played in a similar system with Don Nelson & the Dallas Mavericks. Don Nelson centered that Mavericks team around the likes of, Michael Finley, Dirk Nowitzki, with Steve Nash at the helm. Steve Nash became a free agent, & Mark Cuban didn’t resign Nash, which severed the relationship between Cuban & Nelson. This resulted in Nelson moving on to Golden State. Like D’Antoni, Nelson’s team’s were associated with an uptempo style of play, with a lack of defense.
Nelson was such a good coach player wise and helped BDiddy get his career back, helped Stephen Jackson find a good NBA home and allowed guys to smoke up before the game...fuck I wish I played on that team maybe just for the sesh and bench lol
Add D rose and Brandon Roy to what if players
I forgot about Brandon Roy
James R he would be the first player to do this if ao
James R Most improved player cannot be someone who has already reached the status of MVP, and regressed.
Miss Brandon Roy, he coaches High School BBall in Seattle
Oh Yeah!!! Us Chicago Bulls fans remember Mark Price in the mid to late 80's. Cleveland Cavaliers usually had Bulls number during regular season. Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper, Larry Nance and Craig Ehlo. If people watched Harper he was unstoppable on both ends of the court and was good at guarding Jordan. No surprise Harper was on the second threepeat of Bulls, great defender!!!
Price career got cut short like Brad Daugherty's because of injuries. Price was a baller.
Maurice Smith nice being up. Ppl forget that team!!!
Grant Hill: I wish he never got hurt and once he got hurt didn't try and play in that Miami playoff series. I'm glad he wound up doing well for his career because he was held back and was really a passive leader because he wanted to make everybody happy in his early years in Detroit. Remember, he was a free agent the season he got hurt which enabled the Pistons to pick up Ben Wallace who played for Orlando at the time. I was never a Grant Hill fan but I never thought he was "great" just a good player who would never push that button. I wanted him to do great things on the court and force his team to win but he was too passive when it came to winning at the pro level.
You could argue for Larry Bird being the best.
Idk, he’s in the same convo as Magic, But Larry team was stacked and ran the league from 80-86.
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Best white player!
Lary 🐦 was just a good or better then Magic. Lary brought Indiana St the the NCCA ship.
Magic's teams had more talent the Celtics... #BleedGreen
Rza DaRuler Idk The Celtics were the warriors in the early 80’s and the Lakers were in the mid to late 80’s
@@wooskionehundred1788 I am a 80's Baby from Boston.... The Lakers Had Kareem, Big Game James, Magic, Cooper, B Scott... We had a our obviously Big 3 but LA's role players was more talented. Hence why the Won More Rings. All I'm saying is you have to put 🐦 and Magic in the same Breath. Played that Atl game with his Left
mark price is still one of my fav players tbh.. stronger then you thought, faster then you thought. One of the firsts to split the dbl team. Had a wet 3, a sweet handle. Not the kind that sat there dancing around for 10-12secs with the ball, but he knew what he wanted to do and where he wanted to go and did it effortlessly. Was in the 50-40-90 club. He was most def ahead of his time when you sit back and think of his career. Guess cause i live here in cleveland i dunno, but he's still my fav player
T-Mac and Duncan would’ve been in the NBA Finals every year in the East.
This is an EXCELLENT video Judah. I am glad I found your page. Well Done sir!
It's wonderful to see Chronicles of Judah back in my feed. He's tremendously insightful and knowledgeable on every sport he comments on.
Look at these shoulder separation at 2 minute mark * PAUSE. Forgot that G Hill was that naturally athletic
The ankle break that he played on for a whole season without complaining like a G!!!
mark price wasnt no steve nash. Nash was basically shooting fade-away n fade in 3s in dallas
13:40-13:42 good lord that crossover was quick! bap bap!
One more "what if" ... Brandon Roy
Ray Allen the Assassin!
Kevin Garnett and Uber. ..LMAO😂
Haha killing Rachel Nichols in the intro. Well done
WILT is the best player and athlete ever. Props on the videos and the work is much appreciated
Wilt is actually larger than life
@TroubleChizzy2010 true but they would still all get dunked on
Paul Pierce wanted to be Grant Hill. What I saw from that, in 1995 Vince Carter is 41 and still playing at an extremely high level. At the 1995 McDonalds All-American Slam Dunk contest no one wanted to finish because Vince can jump...
3:25 He said Harold Miner. Of all the people! LOL! Baby Jordan
Harold was good but I think only 1 season
I think pippen gave birth to these types of 2 way players ..like Hill...every team wanted a Pippen
Thank you for the appreciation of more Detroit Pistons greats COJ. We have another in the making with Blake Griffin who is having an incredible season, but doesn't get a lot of credit. But Blake's game has evolved immensely. If it wasn't for the refs typically messing over our Pistons, we would of had an even better record at this point.
Lol, at that part about DOC giving up 3-1 leads. He just did it again recently with George & Leonard lead clippers.
between 94 and 96 is when youth basketball was changing AAU was coming into play as far as year-round basketball and sponsors were paying for tournaments and paying coaches to form teams so they can advertise the merchandise
As a Mavs fan, I can only dream of what could have been had Nash and Dirk played together their whole career.
ChroniclesOfJudah 144 after T Mac and the magic lost to the pistons after being up 3-1, the next season they lost their first 14 games or so. T-mac said he wanted to retire. I remember that cause, I laughed so hard. And also I think Magic Johnson went of on Mcgrady for that statement
Good memory
Kobe is the greatest player to ever step on a nba court
Jerone Davis you the real dummie iverson was a great player but nobody fucking with kobe bean bryant kobe is the shit in you know bro but at the end of the day it's nothing personal just basketball talk
Judah could you do a Whitlock vs. Roland Martin?
@Faygo Rock&Rye Obviously you haven't listened to them! LOL!
And now Doc has given up ANOTHER 3-1 lead.
Darrick rose needs to be noted when u brg up the biggest what if players.
Bandit B Derrick . Not Darrick . Thanks 🙏🏿
Bring not brg
I remember when my homie dunk on grant hill during the katrina hurricane 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I bet he regret coming to that shelter in br 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thats the problem with alot of people, they always looking at stats alone or chips, there are so many factors that go into winning the ball game like people say why couldnt T-Mac close out up 3-1 etc series as such but fail to appreciate how they could even be in that position in the first place I mean seriously, is it really fair? Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups and Big Ben Wallace vs T-Mac and some rookies, it crazy he went up 3-1 in the first place. 2001 He went up against Glen Robinson, Sam Cassell and Ray Allen. If I remember correctly, he scored like 21 straight points one game that series. He was always going against a stacked team but he always played better in the playoffs too, In my opinion, he shouldnt of had to carry that hard and still lose. His 02-03 season has never been replicated since and in the history of the game, MJ is the only person that has put up a statline better for a wing player. 32.1/6.5/5.5 on 30 PER in arguably one of the toughest defensive eras. (Hand check and Zone were legal).
Pippen was a point forward before hill came into the league. I still don’t know why mcgrady is in hall...what did he accomplish?
McGrady has NO business in the hall that bum barely played
Penny hardaway has a gold metal over mcgrady and he’s not even in the hall of fame! Skip bayless is right, they’ll put anybody in the hall of fame!
The basketball hof is a collection of very good players it's not held to the same standard the nfl hof is
+Sleezy TV TMac 2x scoring champ/10x AllStar...microfracture knee injury cooled him off...Kobe just bragged in his new book that was his toughest matchup because according to Kobe..."TMac could do EVERYTHING offensively". Grant made it and Penny will one day as well.
B ball hall includes your career outside of the pro's
Steve Nash got great later in his career, which is amazing.
What About not better than kid dummie
Dirty bitch
Hahahahaha!! I just watched the spilled soda move for the first time!! That’s fuckin great!!😂
I would put Rose up there as another great “what if”
they always have a Jew on sports talk with the blacks. Max Kellerman, Rachel Nichols, ect.
Too true...never let us just have our thing and chill
@@xxSAGACITYxx and what thing is it you're talking about
Justin Grant culture
Any position that is a position of power
Speak for Yourself
Grant Hill & Penny Hardaway. Enough said. 💯
2008 Celtics like a cult treating him like he escaped! 😂
Yes lol. Garnett was Jim Jones. Thanks for viewing the video.
It was actually a big deal when TMac and Grant Hill teamed up originally. GRANT had a good season in Detroit the year prior but got the first injury that caused his demise during the playoffs..... everyone thought he'd come back the next season and kill. He rushed back and reagitated the injury in Orlando that's when people were saying he was done....not prior.
Kobe was robbed for one of those steve nash mvp
Actually it was Shaq who was robbed...
Jordan in his prime is the greatest player to play the game.
You are sharp brother on a lot of subjects...SALUTE
How could grant hill be in the hall of fame and Benard King not be in the hall.
Bernard King is in...2013.
Michael Jordan was the greatest because of his impact on the *game* of basketball. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird made everyone watch the nba, Mj made everyone want get to the nba. Hence "like Mike".
OVER TMAC NAH??? Chris webber never had a memorable game plus he never stuck out like Tmac, Kobe , KG, Tim Duncan, Paul pierce, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd, Steve nash who really would remember chris webber except for that college game where he called time out..
Tmac is a beast and deserves HOF
Backpackpop hunter right what's wrong with this cheese doodle... Tmac like top 5 n this whole conversation
Right, ppl forget that Tmac was super dominant. Weber wasn’t on the same level as Tmac
@@wooskionehundred1788 im leaning towards that too bro!
TMAC should of pulled a KD and joined the Pistons after losing that 3-1 series lead. Maybe today we'd be calling him a champion?
Love ur channel btw
Truth IS they slept on Ray and are only upset because Ray accepted their indifference and SUCCEEDED!!!#FACTSSSS
People disrespect Wilt. The only reason Wilt doesn’t have 9 titles is because of RUSSELL. Nevertheless he has to be in that GOAT conversation.
AND PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE ITS NOT THE NBA HALL OF FAME ITS THE BASKETBALL HALL OF FAME. YOU HAVE PLAYERS THAT NEVER PLAYED IN THE NBA IN THE HALL.
No Shawn Kemp in the HOF no Grant Hill
A point forward before point forwards existed..... When that term got created in the mid 80's with those bucks teams
Then single biggest advantage MJ has over LeBron in the GOAT debate, is that MJ was first. Had James entered the league in 1984 and Jordan entered the league sixteen yrs ago, it would be a MUCH tighter argument.
My favorite is when athlete has 3 syllables. It doesn't always happen but when it does I drink Dos Equis.
I'll try to say it every time so that you can get your stomach pumped. Thanks for viewing the video.
Not only am I not sure about the comparison but grants game had some finesse that kawhi doesn't have. Khwahis a 6'6" shooting guard (came into the league as defensive stopper like Jimmy Butler did) Watching , then studying the game , modeling after these players growing up allowed me to have a closer look at him. Both wonderful players tho. Grant was one of the first versitille small forwards that could rebound, pass, score, cross u up, post you, had a fad a way, could carry a team when needed and will dunk you. Plz find clip on what he did to Alonzo Morning ... Who was defensive stopper years after this clip. Nice vid good convo.!
Mark Price was the first to split between two defenders on a pick and roll.
Ben wallace should be in the hall of fame
Bill Russell was a coach
Nash got back to back MVPs because of Laker fatigue.
I agree with bro Steve Nash & Mark Price were both good & consistent from the free throw line.
You phrased that just right "THE GREATEST WHAT IF Players IN LAST 20 YEARS" excellent phrase! Not the greatest what if NBA history which is LEN BIAS! Next is i think would Mike of won 8 if he wouldnt of retired! This is what people wonder most about! I think Allegedly! Alledgedly!
do you think giannis is trending towards a Grant Hill type of mold. I ask because he struggles with his shot range like a grant hill did but his impact on the game; straight line speed [to get from A-B ] whether its Full or half court and ability to finish around the basket reminds me of Grant HIlls gm if i was to compare him to anyone.
Gianna's drive to win is ferocious whereas, I saw that as one of Hill's greatest weaknesses at least while on the Pistons
@@WN_Byers i disagree. I think grant hills drive to win was noticeable. In fact, i think thats partially what derailed his career. If im correct, he came too son from his ankle injury in the playoffs. I think he struggled w losing and trying to figure out how he can win since he was expected to bring det back to the bad boys winning days
To bad for the injuries. He was a bad man.