11-25-14 The Corey Holcomb 5150 Show - After the Non-Indictment of Darren Wilson
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Discussing the non-indictment of racist cop Darren Wilson and the role of white supremacy in America.
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These nuts need to listen to Bobby. He was preaching.
TeeSimmz right
Corey was saying something that went over Bobbie’s head!!! Even if Yu pay for the land it’s still not yours
You don't need a black leader, be a leader yourself. Be the change you want to see, it all starts with you.
Why should one person be the voice of all of black America.
You're exactly right. Even though some people, aren't ready to lead. Some people are just born to follow. rebecca smith
Agreed
nah, people need a leader. u see since we don't have any leader they substituted celebrities for it and became "stans", the masses need leaders. there are exceptional ppl who can be their own but the majority def need leaders, because if not they'll just follow someone with ill intentions for them.
Sis, beautiful & wise we need no leader, leadeers are corruptible and can be targeted for assassination or to sway the view of the people and destroy the original message through slander, our government works by compartmentalization as we should, splinter cells with same accord like the police lol hopefully with your mind frame when you have children you are blessed with boys warriors need strong up bringing s peace to you
rebecca smith Human societies have always had leaders. Good leaders yield good results. You believe in that individualist European mindset which leads to no where. Of course, the leader shouldn't be worshipped or allowed to abuse his power like some preachers for example.
Bobby on point, the missing part of this conversation for years has been our own military presence, without that we won't be able to sustain a private economy or independence .
Ok
Corey is one of those people who has no constructive solutions to answers. He doesn't know how to build. Black people need capital and a self-sustaining economy. Corey just talks about revolution, but he doesn't know what comes next. Bobby is right, you have to plan for the future. Corey is saying that money is worthless, then says he will always have a hustle to make money. If money is so worthless, why then hustle to make it? Money is power and in America it gives you a seat at the table.
FACTS!
I realized that when he always says going to college is a waste of time. But offer no alternatives.
Corey is my dude, but how can you go to war with this racist super power without resources, no plan, and an unified front of soldiers. That's what Bobby is saying.
I agree. You have to have a plan and excute it. Bobby was saying it didn't make sense to burn your own stuff because you're not going to have the resources to substain yourself to carry out the revolution.
I love what Corey does with this show, but he and Zo make the white man seem like a god. Everyone always talks about how whites destroyed Tulsa Black Wallstreet, but what they don't tell you is that they rebuilt it in a matter of years. Bombs did not destroy Black Wallstreet, integration did. When you give up control of your community to go and work for your oppressor, that is the easiest way to bring about your own demise.
what they were saying is trying to make it within this system doesn't get u freedom. u need to knock this beast off with force so u can build your own. force can only respect force. if u want sovereignty u won't be able to get it under their jurisdiction, laws, and rule!
No they didn't what are you talking about! I live in Oklahoma for most of my life and got kin folks in Tulsa. I don't know where you got you facts from but North Tulsa was never the same again.
THANK YOU!!!!!
I'm not going to go back and forth over it. All I will say is do your research. Greenwood was rebuilt and ultimately died later because of integration/desegregation. Once Blacks were allowed to go and spend money in white instituions, that signaled the end for Black Wallstreet.
Thanks for the FACTS and EVIDENCE. We really do have what it takes to take what they GOT. Don't let ANYONE tell you otherwise. Marcus Garvey said it best: "Up You Mighty Race! You Can Accomplish What You Will!
Goddamn Bobby be breaken shit down that go right over they heads, and Cory goofy ass is doing everything bobby is talken about and don't even know it.
Thomas Wilson exactly
Bobby told the truth
Bobby is right. You are giving them too much credit, and defeating yourself before you get started.
Bobby sittin there mad as hell! lol. That nigga was mad at that Don Lemon comment and stopped talking the last hour of the show.
HaHa u caught that too? Yea he was HEATED!!
Blaackstarr he had the right to be
Lmao @ Bobby..how in the fuck u gonna call me don lemon!!? Lmao
Hahaha He really took offense to that but Bobby point was lost in a sea of emotion
llong3316 why wouldn't he take offense?
Zo you have taught me more in the 3 years iv known of you than all four years of my college education. Thank you brother
THIS IS WHY WE NEED A "SISTA" ON THIS SHOW! DARLENE IS NOT NEEDED
BOBBY PISSED!!!! Lmao...who called me a house nigga!!
lmao
Yea calling a black man over 60 a House Nigga is pretty much fighting words. It's like calling a women a Cunt.
+THOMAS SODOMIZER 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
people need to listen to bobby...thats is one problem..nobody wants to listen to the old wise elders....who been there done that..
I do. I seek elders
what's funny is you would think with Corey being in his mid 40s he would know better, given that he's been all over the country and has seen both sides of the coin
I usually agree with bobby but corey right about money. They can take that shit when they want it.
Corey and Bobby was both right!!!.. Glad I watched this old show.. But Now.. I understand why Bobby left the show later on..
i agree
I agree... I was a late comes to this show even tho I've been a Corey fan for years....
I definitely see why Bobby left after this episode and slightly lost respect for Coreys opinion due to this episode.
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real shit
@KGeezview bullshit. The real reason is that bobby don't agree with corey.
Keep teaching Bobby, some of us are listening. Zo get off the fence, and Corey you're a funny guy, but advocating and inciting violence to an army of our brothers and sisters who are ill equipped to handle such a war is ludicrous. That's just what they want us to do so they can have an excuse to have tanks on our front lawns without repercussions.
Bobby isnt a sellout or a house nigga. He's just an elder and like majority of all elders specifically our real black elders. In their senior stages of life they are looking for civility and like he agreed with negotiations, they have been through that fighting and rebelling period which dissolves once your older because as you age the one and only thing that you desire is peace because your reaching closer to the after life. This is why his perspective sounds completely off balance.
Bobby got mad like a bitch and shut down. He has to realize that most of us r far younger and his experience is respected but his views r most times outdated and drags down the conversation. Now Zo tried to stroke his ego to get him to stop pouting but it didn't work. Great show overall ppl
good assessment.
"Nothing has changed since slavery" is pure malarkey.
It hasn't .... We are debt slaves using fiat currency..... We are in a penal colony
Corey truly missed out on the wisdom of Bobby because of hubris.
Bobby is right. When the stuff hits the fan, we need people to be able to do for theirselves.Black farmers, black carpentors black electricians. and then we can have a list of demands.. whats the purpose of burning things down if not to send a message and get something out of it.
And Zo said we cant negotiate with the devil. but on his show he always speaks on us being gods.. whats a evil devil to a god.. our footstool
I'm glad Bobby said that soldiers are a vital part of reform in America 14:50
That Don Lemon comparison really burned Bobby's ass last night. LOL
Don Lemon? How tf you gon compare me to don lemon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm about an hour and 5 minutes into this. I have got to say that this is one of the most frustrating shows I have ever viewed from 5150. Corey did give a disclaimer at the beginning that he was basically going through something. I'm glad they talked during the break. I don't know if he is, but I could see how Bobby would become a little frustrated by the language that Zo is using. It's as if him saying "I agree with Bobby/I see what Bobby is saying" is providing approval. Bobby is a grown ass man and the elder on this show. While Corey is saying that the youth in the streets wouldn't listen to Bobby, I feel like folks who are 30something like me want to hear a strategy. Why alienate either group? There are a lot of people out there who are willing to act and sacrifice....they just aren't sure what to do and where to start. It seems like that's what Bobby was getting at with his "What next" question. I appreciate the show and will continue to watch and share.
I don't know why Zoe acting scared to side with Bobby. Corey is just babbling and Zo consigning this mess.
Facts
I hear both points from Corey and Bobby. Corey is saying that the money always keep you attached to the enemy. Bobby is saying that money is the exchange for things in this country. You have to look at the give and take of both points. Zo made a point that hit the nail on the head...if you didnt create your mindset of what success is (paraphrasing) then what is your definition of success..Redefine your success not the oppressor.
Majority of the ppl I know who are or were in the military, seem to not have any social opinion or stand for anything. Sometimes I wonder were they broken down to not care or to just obid by whatever America does.
Darlene adds nothing to this show
Nothing but irritating the shit out of the viewers.
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Wow Corey bro, you are a funny dude and you definitely kick knowledge sometimes, but you are a grown ass man acting like a teenagers. You work with the young, but you don't allow them to lead blindly. Bobby, an old head, who has had the same passion and anger multiple times, including in the 60s. This brother is trying to help us prepare for a real revolution without committing the mistakes of the past. Those young heads out there are no more angry or capable than we were in the 90s and Bobby and the Panthers were in the 60s, so it takes more than anger and violence--I won't say burning shit down because I think white people burned those building down--but we can't just get high off anger and other emotions. It has been over two months since the verdict, and two other young brothers have been murdered, where are is the youth now. Corey, again, you are a smart brother but some of your thoughts have to mature, simply stated: bro, you gotta grow the fuck up! You sounding like a teenager when you are a grown ass man.
Great show! Lot's of drama on this one! At times it felt like a 3 on 1 jump. .
Unless you get to the core of black on black violence and resolve that, nothing will change. Because without addressing that issue, you can't resolve the underlying actual issue which is lack of unity in Black America. These men who are very good friends can't even get on one accord on this podcast. How do you think any plan of action in Black America will work with this type of undercurrent?
Bobby is an example of a man seeing with his own eyes what is possible and what can be duplicated and that's why his mind is made up on the matter of self determination.
I'm watching this again in 2019 and NOTHING has changed. We aren't doing a thing and more young men are dying by police.
💀💀 You ain't NEVER LIED!
Damn Corey listen to Bobby and Zo I thought you knew better then that..
Bobby is the smartest 1.
The incorrect diet fills people with unnecessary fear...Bobby is the only one with a half way decent diet and the only one expressing fearlessness.
Damn Bobby sitting there like he dont wanna hear shit lol
I don't blame him
Delicious4Ant lol. .. i think corey took the death of his dog anger out on Bobby.
+dwight198229 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bobby: "I was on the phone today with the president of the black farmer's association."
Corey: "Where the fuck he at?!😂😂😂
Corey and Zo make good points but they fail to get what Bobby is saying... How do you feed your people when you go into war, the war that corey is building up.. Because most of the war ever fought was lost because of hunger, so before you go into war, you need to make solid plans with a source of feeding people and providing basic medical care, by getting money to pay external sources if needed, else you loose that war. So Bobby makes the best point, but it was lost because corey and Zo are focused on other things
Good point.
Bobby was talking about negotiating with the government to be allowed to have shit. If your enemy is the government how can you negotiate anything. Revolution is a lot bloodier than what Bobby has in his mind. There's nothing wrong with organising at all but he was talking about doing it while still being tied down to the machine. Either things are gonna be bloody before black people are respected.
Zo waits on Corey's point, then he forms his opinion. If Corey disagrees with Bobby, Zo will bring in the rear and try to make the old man look ridiculous. Happens episode after episode.
Thank you Chuck. I understood Bobby's point whole heartedly. I don't understand this whole not negotiating with the enemy. You can negotiate with the enemy with them enough to kill them. The only solution I see to the white supremacy problem is to kill them, I could be a killer but until someone presents me with sustenance, provisions, fuel & focus; I can't do anything. I see a lot of complaining on Facebook & Tumblr but like someone said about stans; no one has a mind of their own. Corey & Zo better understand Bobby.
Mr Invisible WE WILL LOSE....look up the military industrial complex...look up all the contractors that make all these WEAPONS DRONES MISSLES...I guarantee there are white men or jews running it.Our little pistols and choppas are no match..we gotta go about it another way....PLAY CHESS...
Side note Zo and Corey talking about fitting in or not fitting in to a system that does not want you yet Corey is paying for his daughter to go to college and Zo's son is going to Auburn. Bet they will not ask their children to drop out and stand on the front lines.
Bobby should of asked that question we need the phone lines.
you are right about that brotha.
bobby is saying....... you need money to go to War...!!!!
This was a cool show and I understood both Bobby and Corey's sides. The main point that they both were missing is that both of them were right, but was just operating from two different fronts. Corey's about that war while Bobby is about making sure we are financially straight to build ourselves back up during/after the war. There can be multiple generals.
It’s 2024 and this conversation is still relevant!!! 5150 🔥🔥🔥
Bobby was on point. The show is missing that stubborn fiber.
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The problem is, when you have black ppl ready to take charge and speak up.. There are those black folks that buckle over, and start that routine of,"black on black violence/black crime rate/we need to do better/how can we get mad when we kill each other"
We can't win.. We won't allow ourselves to even take a step forward.. Shit, Ricky Smiley buckled over quickly on the radio.. Anybody black with some success and spotlight isn't gonna risk that for any cause involving black ppl.. There's a few rare ppl, like Corey.. But very few..
Well thats why you have to forget about the ones who start that routine and focus on the Blacks who are actually against it. You won't be able to save everyone.
bobby and corey were both right honestly ...two sides to this reality
Bobby was right. 2018
Bobby was 100% right
Bobby was absolutely correct about using money for our advancement. Using and spending it the right way could be very effective.
“ Bobby you can’t negotiate with the devil “ powerful statement by Zo
Audio needs to be fixed. Every episode has cracking on the audio when volume is loud. Fix this asap
I love the discussion we shouldn't be against each other even when our methods are different.
Keep doing you Cory. I absolutely love this show. I just saw you at the Improv in Cleveland Ohio.
Great show corey keep doin your thang. Your views needs to be heard...
1:27:56 Good question Zo.
1:28:40 We’ll said.
1:29:00 They’re in the payroll of the government.
1:29:07 Lawyers are officers of the courts.
corey is right! paying taxes isn't even in the constitution. so basically we don't own anything.
Bobby is so right. My grandad was a cop in Newark NJ in the 60's and my fam that was around back then is always telling stories about the rioting and burnings & the military that would come thru on a daily basis. Shit was very fucked up back then and still is.
"That is my God damn land."
-Bobby
Yes but the government can take that land if you fail to pay your taxes or simply by eminent domain. This government can take your shit anytime they want to and there is nothing you can do about it! Believe that!
I see why Bobby left the show. Blacks really dont respect our elders. We think we know everything even at 40. Bobby saw this shit even before Corey was born. We have protested & burned down our communities before. Now what! That's all Bobby was trying to say.
Damn , I love these brothers able to speak to each other with strong emotions. Thanks gentlemen for showing us black men how we can actually disagree and still be professional (aka grown men).
My condolences to you, Corey, concerning your dog. I cried as you were talking about your dog because I know what it feels like. One year has passed since I lost my beloved cat and I haven't been the same. There is a void there that can't be filled with another animal or person. I miss her and cry for her EVERY single day. I will likely grieve her absense for the rest of my life on this earth. She was a huge part of my life and she was truly the epitomy and essense of love outside of God. I miss everything about her and I soon will publish a book in tribute of her and launch a nonprofit in her honor.
This is that old school "barber shop talk"! I LOVE this show! BIG UP!!
Bobby ain't said shit for like the last hour of the show...... He mad as hell.
Salty af.
The intro is very sad and disrespectful. I see why we are a weak ethnic group.
I didn't call you a name? Sadly, most people of color have a very low vibration. Your show doesn't elevate our world.
Good show but audio is crackly as fuck.please fix...
Everyone has great points in this show. I think where Bobby and Corey's ideas butt heads is at the point where Corey is ready to fight and die and Bobby has faith in the judicial system. Bobby thinks that money will level the playing field. Corey thinks that money's value is a figment of the world's imagination and that money has no real value, consequently making it impossible to bring about equitable change. Bobby is right when he says we have to be strategic. He'd make an excellent urban planner. He'd be great for re-building society after a revolution. Corey is right when he basically expresses the old adage that "power concedes nothing without a fight". He'd be an inspiration in the trenches and in war rooms. Corey is correct in stating that there will always be some scheme to devalue your monetary power or lawful status.
Think about Wesley Snipes. When that brotha tried to take revolutionary minded men into the woods to learn the same tactical training that white militia mems in America teach one another, the gov't used tax evasion as a way to crush his attempts. Think about it...basically the gov't said, "N*gga, if you have 1 penny left over after paying your debts to fund militia training amongst blacks, than you have 2 pennies, too many and we won't stand for that." Black ppl aren't ALLOWED to plan, practice or plot ANYTHING if it doesn't ultimately lead black folks to spending every red cent they have on American commerce.
Zo and Darlene remind me of most blacks...just waiting to be led but not fit to lead. They'd take orders well. They have interesting ideas but both are afraid to contradict Corey or Bobby - the two with unrelenting ideologies. Zo & Dee are looking to bandwagon jump once the wheels stop turning so fast.
But for now:
Blacks don't save, they cave...
Blacks aren't prepared, they're scared...
cold ass comment
Corey say they’re gonna label you a terrorist if you don’t conform and obey🎯
34:36 preach my nigga
1:35:37 💯
Those European tribes that brought down Rome did not try to monetize and operate in their system. They capitalized off Rome's internal conflicts and foreign campaigns of conquest (spreading forces wide and limiting security at home) to bring that nation down to ruin. There was no negotiations.
30:55 Corey was DEAD wrong for this. Apology was definitely in order.
bobby was preaching this what happens wen u just talk shit with no results
The less a person knows and understands the more fatalistic is their thinking.
Corey stopped his ass in his tracks. Nowadays even Don Lemon's name is fighting words. Bobby said "Don Lemon, Don Lemon! how the fuck am I acting like Don Lemon? Now I got to cut ya!" His Next book "Real men don't get called no Don Lemon."
I'm not gonna lie, this might not be the best 5150 episode ever but it was the most serious, deep 5150 episode ever
SOMEONE PLEASE UPLOAD THE COREY HOLCOMB LAST COMIC STANDING FOOTAGE!!!
That’s why Bobby left and I don’t blame him
This episode was spot on. Less than six years later the people are back in the streets. 9262020.
And doing nothing.
Good show, real shit from Corey as always. I'm gonna be checking for yall from now on.
This was one of the deepest 5150 show
corey got them jewels for a better future Bobby will never understand we have to war the smart way
How u gone fight a war with no money or organization???? I fuck wit Corey but goddamn y'all niggaz need to stop thinkin he knows everything think cuz he don't and offer not one solution except for for basically leading people head first into a slaughter especially when he starts talkin that bullshit about we don't need no money or organization
Corey keeping it RAW. Keep it up!!!
Great show... But I want to say this, don't we now live in more of a "global" economy? If that's the case, wouldn't that help our cause more of blacks having an economic base?
very true
Corey and Bobby both had good points. Bobby thinks there's power in economics, Corey knows that the money doesn't matter. Power is what rules unfortunately...
It's illegal to shoot someone out of fear
I swear the look on Darlene face when Corey said inside juice skitted inside ya,momma omfg lol smh Corey is insane lol
I agree with Bobby. Corey has not lived enough to understand Bobby.
Corey is speaking upon standing on one's square of humanity.... it seems a lot have missed that in this show.
Bobby was spot on with this one
Bobby was pissed! LOL
Zoe talking REAL TALK
Corey lost mad cool points in this episode..He was very disrespectful to Bobby and he even let Darlene sneak diss him..Corey keep talking revolution with no game plan he's so scared of the White Man that he literally can't see no way out..problems don't fix themselves we have to fix em and Bobby is on the right train of thought.. Corey is confused and scared..Zo needs to realize he's a yes man in hindsight and not as smart as he think he is..Darlene needs to get a personality and Bobby keep fighting the good fight.
Fuck Darlene and as for Corey, it was an emotional episode. He had a lot going on personally.
both of em were right it's crazy how they couldn't see that
BOBBY: Old men keep young men from becoming fools, so they won't repeat the past mistakes, and show a better way in regards to preserving lives.....BOBBY remember fools ignore wisdom.....Young men reject, wisdom, knowledge and understanding, at lease the vast amount are learning minds are stronger than muscles.....
This is when this show was at it's best. Bobby was important to the show.
Two words all real estate owners need to look up: EMINENT DOMAIN
If you own land and don't know what these 2 words mean, than you're the kind of fool that the gov't loves...and that Corey hates.
This shit pisses me off. Corey and Bobby both had valid points but both fought each other over not stopping to listen to one another.
What was that beat on the break? That shit was hard as hell.
The key is in Gold, Silver, Palladium, precious metals. When the dollar and other currencies fail. You will need precious metals.
Man, I wish this was a podcast!
Damn this hard to watch. They are basically telling Bobby there is no hope for us. Just lay down because we can never win. And look years later race hurtling is still big business.
Zo, you are a smart brother and you sat on the sideline, when you should have been supporting Bobby's grown folk logic more, instead of reinforcing Corey's passionate immature rhetoric.If you support Corey's immature logic, then you aren't as smart as I assumed. Bobby has been through similar shit like this before, he is an elder/old head. Corey is acting like this is the first time black folk--the black youth-- have been fucked over and been angry about it.
PAIN & SHAME: If we would put the same Determinations and concerns, when we kill each other, maybe we'll get more respect due to the fact we aren't carrying ourselves as a threat on every side.
Dope show im subscribed