Thrust Bearings and What They Do - EricTheCarGuy

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  • Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025

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  • @MINECRAFT8403
    @MINECRAFT8403 3 года назад +5

    Great video, 9 years later still perfect. Thank you!

  • @djhomemix
    @djhomemix 11 лет назад +6

    Hi Eric, I'm a big fan of your vids. Helped me out a few times. Just thought id let you and others know that it does matter which way the thrust bearings go in they have a lead/tin/copper sometimes called "white metal" over layer that needs to be in contact with the side that rotates and most are just metal on the other side. If put in the other way round they wont last too long.

  • @TamsenCooper
    @TamsenCooper 8 лет назад +6

    Great stuff, I am sat in a garage waiting for them to sort my car and thanks to your video I understand exactly what the problem is and the scale of the job. Thanks for your video.

  • @MarkNehemiah
    @MarkNehemiah 12 лет назад

    I must say that after watching nearly all of your videos you are a really good teacher, thanks, your videos helped me swap out my engine in my 94 buick regal

  • @ReydioTube
    @ReydioTube 5 лет назад +1

    Didn't really understand what Flying Miata was talking about in the description for their clutch switch override until just now. Thank you for your service!

  • @awright478
    @awright478 11 лет назад +1

    Really helpful man thanks a lot. I'm in a battle with a dealership over a clicking noise and the movement you described and needed all the help I could get.

  • @thec4ke
    @thec4ke 13 лет назад

    Eric I'm liking the new format. FATR was entertaining but I feel like I'm learning something when I watch these kinds of videos.

  • @smiley7323
    @smiley7323 4 года назад +2

    Thanks bro. Practicing for my ASE P2 test and didn't know what theses were or what they did. Loved that you also explained the diagnose on it.

  • @dog2525
    @dog2525 13 лет назад

    thanks for the lesson Eric. I am currently doing my first rebuild on a B16A and always wondered what these bearings did. I decided to go with ACL bearings and hope everything fits in place.

  • @easymac79
    @easymac79 4 года назад +1

    I had no idea what that metal bit was, but this video cleared that right up. One of these bearings wore down a groove in the main bearing cap and then dislodged to the point it seized my engine. I'm stubborn AF, and I like to fix things so I took the whole engine apart to find that. Daily driver, oil level was good, recently changed...

  • @KinsGlory
    @KinsGlory 10 лет назад

    I am rebuilding my a20a3 honda engine and have gotten to the thrust bearings, not sure what they were used for, but now i know. The book says and I quote "thrust washer thickness is fixed and must not be changed either by grinding or shimming. Thrust washers are installed with grooved sides outward" so the groves face outwards from the bearing housing, example @ 4:50. Thanks for the video eric!

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 13 лет назад +1

    Nice to see a video with academic detail, thanks for your effort.

  • @blinkskaterkc
    @blinkskaterkc 13 лет назад +1

    Haven't commented in a while, but I've been watchin all the vids you put. Thank you again for an informative video Eric!

  • @matthewmolburg
    @matthewmolburg 13 лет назад

    Good Video. I heard you mention slow starts, my girlfriends impreza, when we got it, I noticed it cranked really slow but never had a problem starting. Now I know to check this when I do the clutch, thanks.

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 4 года назад

    Best mechanic videos on RUclips!

  • @carlmora22
    @carlmora22 11 лет назад

    I have a test on engine bearing and rotary engines today, this helped me with my review! Thanks Eric!

  • @mrkzj2
    @mrkzj2 13 лет назад

    Good job explaining thrust bearings. Never seen or heard of the no-start condition but that's interesting.

  • @PostMeridianLyf
    @PostMeridianLyf 13 лет назад +3

    Thanks for this! I was about to buy a 240sx with a broken thrust bearing and i had no idea what it is. Perfect timing

  • @krzyglu
    @krzyglu 13 лет назад

    Your like the Mr. Wizard of auto repair.. your infomation is priceless..thank you and keep up the good work.

  • @alldayandnight09
    @alldayandnight09 13 лет назад

    great video. I really like the videos that you show us real world diagnosis situations especially when we actually get to see the problem itself in the video and hear or see the problem in addition to the great tips and tricks used to FIND the problem and NOT throw parts at it. Your info is accurate and helpful. thanks.

  • @albertonex19
    @albertonex19 13 лет назад +1

    Thanks,love the videos,should you not have a certain amount of play on the crank?

  • @kandiys
    @kandiys 13 лет назад

    @binnsh you should start it with clutch pedal pushed down because it it easier for a starter to turn the motor when it's disconnected from the gearbox. Especially in cold winters.

  • @dav8388
    @dav8388 13 лет назад

    @binnsh 99% of cars out there have a clutch switch that will not allow the starter to engage until the clutch is pushed down, so unless that switch has been bypassed it's not going to start until you press the pedal.

  • @Michiganborn1969
    @Michiganborn1969 13 лет назад

    You breath almost as heavy as I do when I make a how to video, and I smoke. Always love the educational videos.

  • @amylee7017
    @amylee7017 3 года назад +2

    I am having low oil pressure light trouble, manual transmission, I deleted the dampener, I can make the light go out, at 50, by depressing the clutch a little, thanks so much I will test it, using your method.

    • @telephantasm4070
      @telephantasm4070 4 месяца назад +1

      Hi, I'm having the same problem, did you end up replacing the thrust bearings and did that fix the oil pressure problem? Thanks.

    • @janpalmer3025
      @janpalmer3025 3 месяца назад +1

      yes, I replaced the thrust bearings, oil pressure light isn't coming on anymore, This is also amylee7017

    • @telephantasm4070
      @telephantasm4070 3 месяца назад

      @@janpalmer3025 oh that's great, I hope that fixes my issue too, thanks a lot for replying!

  • @smelsermic
    @smelsermic 8 лет назад +1

    My question, because I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, is which direction do the thrust bearings go? Grooves in so that they touch the block? Or out so they touch the crank? At 4:50 you show a one piece bearing thrust washer and the grooves are out so they would touch the crank. I'm just curious because I can't seem to find an answer and there were no guides with the thrust washers I bought.

  • @Fluke2SS
    @Fluke2SS 8 месяцев назад

    Appreciate this: I had my engine rebuilt recently and one of things they did was add upgraded LS1 thrust bearings. Blew two pistons, two rods and cracked crankshaft. I assume that might be why the crank borked along with the rod bearings.

  • @friedchicken1
    @friedchicken1 13 лет назад

    just today i put back on the pistons and oil pan on my 1987 lancia thema 2.0 turbo, i didn't remove the crankshaft, tomorrow i'll check for any movement of the flywheel .. thanks eric ;)

  • @leakedfromtv
    @leakedfromtv 13 лет назад

    thanks for the video eric. learned something new as always. and i'm a big fan of your "informal" type of style. that's how i learn best.
    cheers.

  • @CaMaRo1RoC89
    @CaMaRo1RoC89 13 лет назад

    eric. whats a reasonal and normal price for an engine rebuild? how much would u charge for a rebuild. from the block to the top

  • @TheChero6
    @TheChero6 13 лет назад

    Eric thanks for posting the thrust bearings. I was just curious too cause it has been a long time since I've installed one. How does the orientation of the oil grooves on the thrust bearings go? is it outside or inside of the block? Just bring back old memories since I am just a DIY. Keep posting it and as always continously learning from your site. Thanks.

  • @phuturephunk
    @phuturephunk 10 лет назад +1

    Those bearings also provide an intermediary surface for the crank to spin freely against while supporting it so there isn't wear between the crank and the actual block.

  • @davidkelly7754
    @davidkelly7754 11 лет назад

    Excellent video. Are these also an issue for automatics?

  • @snaxs2000
    @snaxs2000 13 лет назад

    Awesome video. How often do you see these bearings go bad on a daily driver honda? I ask because I've never seen It happen with my hondas and I've taken them 300k or more.

  • @rbd104
    @rbd104 12 лет назад

    Great videos Eric. I'm new to engines and I'm learning a lot from you but you should consider a tripod. Thanks.

  • @tinydx95t2
    @tinydx95t2 13 лет назад

    So the only thing that keeps those thrust bearings in the block is the recess in the block and the crank? Thats a very interesting design. I've never had the bottom end of one of those apart before. Do you think that is a better design that the one piece main bearing and thrust bearing combination?

  • @Glenn7719
    @Glenn7719 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this, i was going over spare engine in my shed, taking off the flywheel i noticed the crank moving back and forwards, hence googling "crankshaft end play" brought me here. So had like 1/4 of an inch play. On removing the sump i found a pair of mangled thrust bearings in the bottom of the engine and some nasty grind makes on the crankshaft, so safe to say thats focked. :D

  • @ernestprice1837
    @ernestprice1837 2 года назад

    Very good video with clear explanation - much appreciated

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn 13 лет назад

    Hey Eric, good comparison of manual vs auto, never really thought about that as binding the crank but i can see it's possible, maybe a dial indicator to check movement if doing a clutch on a hi mileage car? Guess Honda isn't perfect either as you do plenty of repairs on them. I assume the kids hot rod Hondas with higher resistance pressure plates put more pressure on those bearings then?

  • @kobevsjordan310
    @kobevsjordan310 11 лет назад

    "If I'm honest," your videos are the greatest!

  • @axenz1
    @axenz1 13 лет назад

    Hi Eric, why that Civic run out of oil? Please tell us. For me , look alike that leaked oil seal crankshaft at Flywheel , I can see black oil wetting the Gear box. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @Falcon8605
    @Falcon8605 13 лет назад

    @dav8388 My 5 speed manual 1987 Honda Accord LX never had this switch. I just put the transmission in neutral and then started it so I didn't have to hold the clutch pedal down with it in gear you normally would. .

  • @pantera090789
    @pantera090789 13 лет назад

    hey eric i know this is not related to the video...my 95 ford explorer won't start by the ignition , it only starts when i put a screwdriver on the solenoid......do you know if it's the starter or something else.....thanks

  • @rotorlover
    @rotorlover 12 лет назад

    I Have a CA18DET thats out of my car now because I'm doing body repairs. I would like to know if its advisable to install new connecting and main bearings on my existing mains, rod caps and rods? No I have not spun a bearing or anything, but I would like to know if i an change them as the engine is out and noting the age of the engine.

  • @mrkzj2
    @mrkzj2 13 лет назад

    Oh and do most engines only have the crank supported by one thrust bearing like the pair on this engine?

  • @motorhead45102
    @motorhead45102 13 лет назад

    @playstation2bigs good quality oil will prolong the life of any bearing, also keeping up on regular oil changes help even more

  • @kpdvw
    @kpdvw 8 лет назад +21

    Thrust bearings should NEVER rotate in the engine block!

  • @jollygreen122
    @jollygreen122 13 лет назад

    GREAT video!! I learn SO much from you Eric! I love cars, and I love your video's!!! Keep it up!! Maybe one video you will have to show a Hybrid.

  • @topgearulz
    @topgearulz 13 лет назад

    @EricTheCarGuy can you please take apart and explain an LSD or a VCD (variable centre diff)?

  • @BrayandPerez
    @BrayandPerez 11 лет назад +2

    can the thrust bearings make my car want to shut off as i press on the clutch because my car does that but only when the engine is at operating temperature when its cold it works normal

    • @Phonesoukseum
      @Phonesoukseum 7 лет назад

      Brayand Perez please get an answer i have the same problem

    • @jeffshultz5348
      @jeffshultz5348 5 лет назад

      Yes it can have that effect. When the car is cold the oil is thicker and harder to squeeze out from between the two pieces of metal so it keeps spinning. As the oil warms up it flows easier and then you get metal to metal.

  • @binnsh
    @binnsh 13 лет назад

    I've been thinking that manual transmission cars should be started in neutral, foot off clutch so there is no load on the thrust bearing until oil pressure builds. Your thoughts?

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 2 года назад

      You could by pass the clutch switch to obtain this, I had an old chevy 1960 with an inline 6 and a powergide trans that had the neutral switch bypassed and you could start in in gear gotta really keep your eyes open lol

  • @guybarnett131
    @guybarnett131 8 лет назад

    like the video Eric my question is what if your thrust washers are in the oil pan and did I lose oil or oil pressure to that area. Worried that area didn't get enough oil where the rod bearings might be ruined. Tks for your time and keep the video's coming.

  • @psmith1349
    @psmith1349 6 лет назад

    Thanks, Eric. Excellent video as usual. Hits it out of the park every time!

    • @daesyoung
      @daesyoung 5 лет назад

      what he doesnt even knw wut hes doing...

  • @lilfoot2121
    @lilfoot2121 13 лет назад

    Thanks for the vids. I have a question my 86 civic starts up with a very high idle itsun the 3to5 rpms. What could it be I teplacet spark plugs and wires ?

  • @CultureShockSix
    @CultureShockSix 13 лет назад +1

    Awesome vid man. :3 Love the informational style.
    I'm more mechanically at home with bikes; but an engine's an engine, right?

  • @ArtStamos
    @ArtStamos 13 лет назад

    great information, loved seeing a Honda engine inside where all the oil passages and holes are.

  • @emadmhaltaai4287
    @emadmhaltaai4287 2 года назад

    Hi Eric, Thank you you saved my engine, excellent ....thank you again

  • @510markman510
    @510markman510 12 лет назад

    does a worn thrust bearing/wearing one make any sound before it gives out and you cant start the car? like a shearing noise within the engine bay?

  • @paulbreor
    @paulbreor 12 лет назад

    Hey eric. You have great videos and one hell of an ambition to tear into a car and find it and fix it.
    Im not sure if im right but i believe the trust bearings on honda engines don't rotate because the main cap that holds the bearing and the crank down prevent it from moving? any how i've been subscribed and watch your videos for hours on end. Keep up the good work bro.

  • @playstation2bigs
    @playstation2bigs 13 лет назад +1

    will a good oil prolong the life of thrust bearing???

  • @fd2mugenRR1
    @fd2mugenRR1 13 лет назад

    you are awesome man....you know a lot of stuff and thank you for providing us with your knowledge...

  • @petercooke7348
    @petercooke7348 2 года назад

    Excellent description/explanation.

  • @fierakuitali9313
    @fierakuitali9313 3 года назад

    Does all car have thrust bearing . Good video mate

  • @JohnnyG196
    @JohnnyG196 3 года назад

    Thank you! My goodness this was a crystal clean explanation that really helped me

  • @2bTrue21
    @2bTrue21 11 лет назад

    I am in the middle of a rebuild. Do you remember which way the thrust bearing groove is to be installed?

  • @yadidimeanmaine
    @yadidimeanmaine 13 лет назад

    Can this be replaced with the crank in? like if i goop em up with vaseline or something?

  • @wisewhiterabbit
    @wisewhiterabbit 11 лет назад +1

    so what does it mean when you get a spun bearing ?

  • @desertfox2020
    @desertfox2020 12 лет назад

    Sometimes the air intake sucks some in, especially if the car has ever been driven through water. I've seen people take their 4x4's through water and then the engine hydrolocks.

  • @ervinfuster7678
    @ervinfuster7678 8 лет назад

    Hi Eric,
    Awesome Video. I'm rebuilding the Engine for my Toyota Camry. Bought new Crankshaft but my question is do I buy Rod, Main & Thrust bearing at Standard Size +00 or should I get them +10 (0.25mm Over)
    Thank you

  • @ElementTijuana
    @ElementTijuana 6 лет назад +1

    Which side does the thrust washer channels go then??

  • @randygonzalez6250
    @randygonzalez6250 Год назад

    Are thrust bearings on all the main journals or just one of them?

  • @josphatwarui3171
    @josphatwarui3171 3 года назад

    Awesome explanation. I had a problem with front crankshaft oil seal. We had to use a lot of force to remove timing belt pulleys. Finally we re placed the seal but then when the crank shaft moves backwards and forwards slightly, the seal comes out spilling lots of oil.Could this lateral movement of the be a sign thrust washers are worn. Car has power and starts well. Pls help.

    • @JN-mc1jk
      @JN-mc1jk 2 года назад

      Take a dial guage and place it at the end of the shaft and push it to see how much its walking, if its more than 0.005 your thrust bearing is gone and you need to attend to it otherwise you riskibg damaging the crank shaft.

  • @35057
    @35057 13 лет назад

    @albertonex19 There is a specific tolerance for crank end play when building the engine. Specific to that engine/build/crank/block.

  • @vernalwalters
    @vernalwalters 3 года назад

    Hi Eric if the thrust eat into the crank can I still reuse the crank

  • @gerardohernandez8065
    @gerardohernandez8065 12 лет назад

    thanks for your videos eric they really do help

  • @touringusa8760
    @touringusa8760 6 лет назад

    What design changes have been incorporated into engine design to beaf up the added thrust bearing demand and lack of lubrication to the bearings since the mandatory clutch engagement was mandated for engine start-up? Also, what's the average life expectancy of thrust bearings since that mandate was imposed and how does it compare to the previous design?

  • @YoutubeTech82
    @YoutubeTech82 11 лет назад

    Thanks a lot Eric that helped me in my study , i like your videos such a great and clear explanation

  • @michael9515
    @michael9515 12 лет назад

    I have a Questing... My old man has a Ford Transit "07 2.2Tdci motorhome... When it is very cold it wont start... Just makes a clicking noise... But when you heat the under side of the engine the starter and the oil pan with a heat gun it cranks like new... Bad starter...? It has a new battery which is in the cabbin... It also had check engine light for EGR valve circuit which i replaced and now it is all good... But starting is the problem...

  • @JohnMarkCausin
    @JohnMarkCausin 4 года назад

    My mechanic just said the my crank shaft moves back and forth. How big or how far does it move? And how bad is the situation? He did say that the trust bearings needs to be replaced.

  • @binnsh
    @binnsh 13 лет назад

    @muikunruoto No such safety switch on my old VW. I've used the starter to crawl up to the gas pump when I ran out of fuel.

  • @bakert4
    @bakert4 11 лет назад

    so i have a 97 civic 5 speed. ive had the car for about a year and since i got the car it had signs of a bad throw out bearing. have put 2 clutches in it along with new pilot and throw out bearing as well as a new flywheel and nothing is seeming to help. but it only does it at a certain rpm range. but ive also replace the trans. so im lost could it be the trhust bearings. plz help im goin crazy

  • @joshuatorres4762
    @joshuatorres4762 3 года назад

    I have a question would bad thrust bearing cause thumping when engaging into each gear, feel it most in 1st and 2nd? I have new clutch, innovative mounts and poly suspension bushings lmk thanks

  • @motorhead45102
    @motorhead45102 13 лет назад

    @playstation2bigs mobil 1 oil is pretty good, all the mobile one oil is fully synthetic, i use castrol in my car, mainly cause it is slightly cheaper than mobile one, and i don't really want to put full synthetic oil at a higher price for my car that has 350k miles and knocks.

  • @kmsscontracting1186
    @kmsscontracting1186 4 года назад

    Thanks your my favorite mechanic to watch very informative and professional thank you! Just subscribed

  • @crownedroyal2003
    @crownedroyal2003 13 лет назад

    ** trust bearings do not rotate around the crank shaft on honda's. They are held in place on the block side by the main bearing cage. **

  • @KillerZero259
    @KillerZero259 12 лет назад

    love your videos eric!! very educational!!

  • @fernandoavella8688
    @fernandoavella8688 9 лет назад

    I need to take out the camshaft bearing on a 1985 toyota van 3Y-EC, but I do not want to remove the base pan of the the engine.
    Is there a tool to hold the hydraulic lifters in place so it don`t drop into the base pan?

  • @tinkeringtimmermans5249
    @tinkeringtimmermans5249 4 года назад

    I would imagine that the extra slop in the rotating assembly would cause a lot more damaging harmonics/vibrations as well? Could damage the block and crank eventually I would imagine. Particularly in a high RPM application

  • @fredkonrath4271
    @fredkonrath4271 4 года назад

    Are there any video's for installing this plate?

  • @muikunruoto
    @muikunruoto 13 лет назад

    @mikeisgonzo This is the first time I hear about this. But I must admit I don't know that much about cars. I googled the switch, and read it was invented by GM. Could it be more common in American cars than others? I live in Europe, and have driven only European and Japanese cars, and none of them have had this safety switch. Method of using the starter to nudge the car of the railway tracks is even introduced in driving schools, doesn't work with the switch.

  • @KnowledgeBitsAI
    @KnowledgeBitsAI 10 месяцев назад

    My 2004 Acura TL wouldn't start and the Acura dealer said the engine thrust washers had shifted while seated in the holding spot.

  • @try4ever533
    @try4ever533 8 лет назад

    Should I replace the thrust bearing? I compare the old and new one with digital measurement, I couldn't see any different or wears...Please let me know. Thanks..

  • @jamiedodd1991
    @jamiedodd1991 13 лет назад

    Well, that's another reason why I NEVER push the clutch in when shifting gears. I only use the clutch for 1st gear and reverse and starting the engine if it has one of those stupid switches on it.

  • @juanyboo12345
    @juanyboo12345 12 лет назад

    THANK YOUUUU HAVE A GOOD DAY BRO

  • @aussieguy1012
    @aussieguy1012 7 лет назад

    Just learnt something new.Thanks man.

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion 7 лет назад

    Will a bad thrust bearing cause a sharp, loud tapping sound and a flex plate to fatigue, crack and break apart at the center around the bolt pattern? My stock 27 year old flexplate broke, the replacement flexplate showed cracking and began making tapping sounds after a while from soft tapping to loud that come and go at idle but are very loud under throttle pressure while cruising. Any tips would help.

  • @motorhead45102
    @motorhead45102 13 лет назад

    @playstation2bigs no I havent used it lately but have used it before, don't notice much of anything on what it does, but idk

  • @Rodneyzoom
    @Rodneyzoom 8 лет назад

    hey Eric question I'm about to start replacing my main bearings in my 2.7 dodge and was wondering could the thrust cause the crank to shake or have a airplane motor sound from the bottom end.the thrust bearings on mine are separate pieces just like what you was working any advice would be great

  • @jenstark3905
    @jenstark3905 4 года назад

    What about automatic I think this may be the culprit for my sensor going out it's happened twice already maybe a bad sensor I dont know any tips on how to check it

  • @douglascharrois4680
    @douglascharrois4680 4 года назад

    Can worn thrust bearings in my 98 Safari van be the cause of my serpentine belt continually being spoiled and squeaking and having to be replaced?