Sam Shamoun shows Muslim he has two Gods. Quran not created?

[@spanishribbednewt3655]

Without lies Islam dies

[@mrjaks202]

This is probably the only short that you were lucky enough to find someone that is ignorant.

[@spanishribbednewt3655]

@@mrjaks202 this one and hundreds of others

[@razim1174]

​@@spanishribbednewt3655iam a muslim you disrespect my religion , but i Will never disrespect yours because thats not what my god teaches me

[@Call_Me_Rio]

To all Muslims that can’t understand his argument:
In the Bible Jesus is the only one referred to as the word of God. Your Quran says the word of God is uncreated, meaning that it is eternal like Allah, this means the word of God(or Allah) and Allah are separate but still the same thing(This is the same concept christianity introduces with the trinity but y’all deny it). But here’s the problem with that: Y’all claim God is only ONE. And if the word of God is eternal like God, that also makes the word of God or the Quran: God. Meaning Quran(word of God)+God=God. But yet, the Quran is the purported word of God, and is separate from God because if it is God, that would mean that the Quran is living. And it ain’t living. I mean, Yall don’t think the Quran is not God right?
If y’all think God can reveal himself through a book, why can’t he reveal himself through Jesus?

[@djstudiowasabi1507]

which verse in the Holy Quran says that it is uncreated (Quran). If you know of a verse that says that Quran is uncreated, please let me know.

[@liamstoker2984]

To everyone to understand this:
The Quran is a Book and all the Words in that Book are From Allah, according to Him. The Quran as a Book didn't existed always, but his words do (According to Him)
It is the Same as if you look in the Bible where it says: "God Spoke:...." or "Jesus said: ........" that also are Words of God according to Christians, doesnt mean the Bible is Uncreated.

[@djstudiowasabi1507]

@@liamstoker2984 and this is why i disagree with Carl.... I believe that Quran was created but the Words was not, it is eternal... and i believe as well that the Holy Bible (Injeel) was the word from God but it was not preserved well not like the Holy Quran

[@wail_52_]

​@@djstudiowasabi1507you mean Allah didn't promise to save guard the other books like the Quran .

[@lukypoco3663]

​@@djstudiowasabi1507 God wouldn't abandon His word, His word lasts forever. In fact, you could take all the Bibles in the world and destroy them and we still would be able to recreate the original Bible more than 24x just from early church fathers quotations. That's how much of it we have and was preserved. We know exactly every error in manuscripts, we don't have a blank space and huge gap that we don't know. Every sentence was saved by God my friend. We have more than 25 thousand manuscripts of the Bible that are 98.5 % accurate and the rest is different punctuation, different words used or errors like destroyed parts of the text in manuscripts but we know exactly which and where and have thousands of other manuscripts and thousands of church quotations from the early church fathers to know which exact sentence or word was used or missing. God proved His trustworthiness and loyalty and kept His word He gave to this world. Don't believe lies about Christianity or the Bible my friend, in fact not the Bible but the Quran itself has this problem and the reason Muslims accuse us Christians of not having the right scriptures is because it's actually you that don't have it.
It's a strategy used by people across the world, to accuse someone else if you know you did it. Or for example if a kid steals a candy and the person asks who stole my candy, the kid that stole it will accuse the other kids around so he will shift the attention from himself to someone else. But after checking out the history of the Quran I can say it wasn't preserved perfectly. Are you interested in finding out why?

[@christopherwitkowski2322]

He is just representing how stupid the argument that Muslims use against the Trinity is

[@avgnoob4679]

Nah.
You are all coping

[@christopherwitkowski2322]

@@avgnoob4679Says a member of a cult that worships a black rock

[@avgnoob4679]

@@christopherwitkowski2322 lol.
We don’t, but whatever helps you cope

[@christopherwitkowski2322]

@@avgnoob4679 that statement seems like a coping mechanism

[@avgnoob4679]

@@christopherwitkowski2322 nah

[@vinolind6671]

It's sweet when the muslims talks about other religions. Its bitter when the Christians talks against them

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

Ofcourse it is , because you're a pagan stone kisser.

[@fieryphoenix586]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sure.

[@kgosimashugane7029]

I’m not Muslim, grew up Christian and always saw the Flaws in Islam but it’s when I put the same scrutiny on Christianity that I realised that religion is not the work of god but the false teachings of man. Christianity and Islam are both beautiful sides to the same BS coin. I so wish that one of them was true… I still go to church I still enjoy being in the space because there’s a lot of good people who truly want to do good in the world but they’re blinded by ignorance and loyalty to what they’ve been taught… there is no book that is as historically week as the bible, it’s sad how much knowledge needs to be abandoned for one to give in to the bible, then we call that faith😢

[@Richard-et3cl]

Yes these Muslims are hypocrites, they come to the west with their religion, they want sharia, they love Islam, and often tries to convince people to follow their religion, but they don't like when people talk about other religions, they don't believe religious freedom nor do their islamic countries tolerate any other religions and is a serious offence trying to convert Muslims in their countries.. with no lies, Islam dies.

[@i_am_afzalkhan]

Seriously is that even an argument 😂😂😂😂😂😂 a fifth grader will teach u that quran is the word of Allah.

[@cecquela]

That’s not the question, you are not answering the question. Is the quran created or not is the question! Not if it’s the word of lah or not.

[@GreenWinchester2]

​​@@cecquelaIt is uncreated. Why?
If God is uncreated (not bound by the concept of existence) then why would his word be created? It's not like God REALIZED to make these laws at a point, yeah? Then we are applying human nature to God. Which again, breaks the idea of God.
It's simple logic

[@isaacsanchez510]

So the quran is created

[@elamine9094]

​@@cecqueladefinitely not the word of lah. I dont know who lah is.😂😂

[@jamesslag_]

@@GreenWinchester2what about when your god says to seek the Bible if they can’t come to grips with the Quran, if that be the case why not just go with the Bible in the first place? Not to mention the Bible contradicts the Quran so therefore the Quran has no leg to stand on its own except only when borrowing from Christianity.

[@rajniupadhyaya1917]

For Muslims only Muslims preacher makes sense 😂😂😅.

[@solomonvenunye7309]

The problem with some of these guys that come on Sam’s channel is either they read the Quran with no understanding or they relied on someone to read and explain it to them. Unfortunately for them, unlike the Bible, you can refer to or get an interpretation of a verse in another chapter of the bible but it seems like not the same with the Quran so these guys even sometimes try to explain with Scientific evidence or something some said to them.

[@mohammedtharik1481]

This is how Trinity got formed. A pure example of Christians confuse everything.

[@r4ngerr4ge32]

More like Muslims failing to understand Trinity and how their “god” is not actually one like they say

[@GoulagInamte777]

If Allah truly knew everything, why did he not know that Isa coming to Earth would create the biggest "false religion in the world"?
By the way, why did Allah wait 600 years before sending another prophet to correct his mistake?

[@mohammedtharik1481]

@@GoulagInamte777
Allah even knows when creating devil. He will do mischief. He knows the future. But he made a freewill for everyone do as they like.
Allah (SWT) was sending prophets to warn and guide people to straight path.
Every prophet who was sent always preach people to worship the one true God.
Few years people follow them and after that people go astray. Some go extent of making those prophets as god. Just like Christians.
It is people at fault for creating mischief and writing and changing scriptures on their own hands.
So again Allah sent Prophet to guide people.
Till the last prophet Muhammad sal came and finalised the religion with pure monotheism.

[@GoulagInamte777]

@@mohammedtharik1481 Monotheism like kissing the black stone like a pagan?

[@mohammedtharik1481]

@@GoulagInamte777
In islam do muslims require to kiss that black stone ?.
Show me a hadiths or Qur'an verse that says that we have to worship that black stone or kissing of that stone is mandatory or that black stone has power.
Do you want to know what is pagan. Creating a man idol and kissing it and praying towards it. Like you Christians do.
You know something without lies Christianity dies.

[@Raphael55587]

Tawheed is destroyed in Islam

[@aallowtv207]

سبحان الله عما يشركون😢 ALLAAH is one☝️

[@germanshepherd6638]

ALLAAH didn’t write the Quran.

[@yadip65]

It doesn't take rocket science to figure out Mohammed was demonic. Even a person that isn't religeous can put two and two together.

[@afsaanpathan5382]

This entire arguments is null and void.
Allah is 1 and only. Quran is the WORD of Allah.
It's simple.

[@christyorlan]

Million muslim like this man, I live in moslem country.

[@miss.mukashafjahanr2240]

To anyone who need the answer, Quran is the word of Allah which was revealed verse by verse to our prophet Muhammad through angel Gibrael. Quran was revealed orally and the companions of our prophet memorized it then later they started to write it on wood, leather etc and finally printed on paper.

[@nehalneki1511]

The joker doesnt know that the very meaning of quran is recitation not thing air water

[@starkidforlife136]

Speech of Allah = a 2nd Allah 🤦🏼‍♂️ I thought this video was satire.. why don’t you stick to arguing about how god is a trinity and a man and a god at the same time before trying to confuse monotheists

[@TheRealCSD6]

The argument here wasn't that "speech of Allah = a 2nd allah" it was that the Muslim literally said he believes in two uncreated things which are the Quran and Allah. That's 2 sources of what we're supposed to submit to instead of one. Which is basically acting like the Quran is another God. If the Quran was the word of God then it would be created by God and that would be the end of the discussion.

[@starkidforlife136]

@@TheRealCSD6 you think the speech of God is created? Its an attribute of God... are your God’ attributes created? Did He create His Mercy, His Anger and His Wisdom, as if there was a time those attributes did not exist bcz they were not created yet, glory to Him? Did he create His Sight and His Wisdom? Was your God mute at some point, bcz ours certainly was not.. it’s a major theological point you need to think about, and it does not nullify the Oneness of Allah to believe that His attributes are uncreated..

[@TheRealCSD6]

@@starkidforlife136 when you speak... you create words. The words of God were created by God. Use logic.

[@majedbejaoui4285]

​@@TheRealCSD6 You have to understand i will do u a quick representation between christians and muslums:
Quran For us is like the bible for u we follow it's teaching and we are not worshiping it so what i meen is when we pray we pray to god not to Quran.
God is the creator of everything
the bible(not the one we have now), the quran, jesus and all humans and everything in existance that's the one we are worshiping and nothing else.
In your case you have the trinity and 3 doesn't equal to one simple.
Confusing doesn't mean winning an argument

[@TheRealCSD6]

@majedbejaoui4285 3×1=1. Unfortunately you're told by Muslim influencers that the Trinity is 3 gods. No its not. The Trinity is one God who exists as not only the Father but also as Spirit and physical form aka the son. From the most ancient of Hebrew scriptures to the last of the scriptures God is represented as this. One single God yet ext existing in these 3 forms. To make it simple if I showed you ice, steam, and water it would be clear these are 3 things yet all actually one thing. As for "the bible we have now" argument. Muhammad claimed the scriptures of the jews and Christians during his time were the preserved word of God. Muhammad also said Jesus confirmed the Jewish scripture. We have bibles from every point in time and they have said the same story. Wr have bibles from before Jesus, during Jesus, during Muhammad and afyer Muhammad and they are the same as the modern ones. So if you claim that there are contradictions in those scriptures then you then contradict Muhammad himself. The Quran contradicts the previous scripture so much it only shows it cannot be canonical with Jewish and Christian scripture. Muhammad literally said it does. Therefore you can't look at Islam as a separate thing. And since you can't see it as a continuation either then it is clearly a false religion.

[@germanshepherd6638]

If Muhammad didn’t write the Quran, it’s not from Allah, it’s from man! Same goes with every other religious document!

[@Abuayessha]

Quran is the speech of Allah. That was orally transmitted to angel Gabriel.

[@germanshepherd6638]

No it’s not, it was written by people who thought they met Muhammad.

[@yahiaabid3828]

@@germanshepherd6638 who told you?

[@mrjaks202]

​@@germanshepherd6638source: the back of toilet seat

[@CatHarington]

Why is he trying to trap him? It's dishonest...

[@braintree7502]

That's what Christians rely on these days, deception

[@isaacsanchez510]

Your teachers do it all the time

[@francescoaccomando7781]

To show the hypocrisy when muslims argue against christians when we explain the trinity, but you don't get it because you want to attack us instead of understanding

[@CatHarington]

@@francescoaccomando7781 In no debate I heard a Muslim attack a christian. Always arguments given. Trinity is not something that can be explained logically or rationally. It makes no sense and contradicts itself every time. Not to mention that the Bibel is evidently not preserved therefore not a reliable source.

[@emeraldman8753]

@@francescoaccomando7781that Muslim didn’t know how to answer the question. Qur’an is uncreated and the words of Allah, not another God. It is the atttributes of Allah, Allah attributes cannot be other Gods, it is part of Allah. Now the trinity is trying to squeeze 3 in 1 when they are 3 different persons. Allah is not part of the trinity that was the lie made up by the church that Christians swallowed up.

[@melkishedekh8775]

Sam u just distroying islam 😂❤

[@AncientMonarch]

When you graduate from Whatsapp University. Ta hell is with his silly argument 😂
Edit: {I think I started a war 😅}

[@francescoaccomando7781]

whoosh

[@samabinrhoman7491]

Right 😅

[@natanmoses674]

How bout you realize Sam is schooling these Abdools, unless you want to go and challenge Sam. He is more than happy to debate Islam and Christianity with Muslims. Unless, of course, you are a coward.

[@Christian_counsel]

Okay explain why it’s silly. Literally makes perfect sense. I don’t understand Muslims. They cannot make sense of anything. And when they get proven wrong. They just say something meaningless comment like what you wrote. Or put that verse from the Quran about being blind in their hearts.
When a Christian is debated like this they back it with multiple scriptures. Explanations and correct translations.
It’s time and time again. Find a Muslim video that doesn’t have that blind heart verse commented in it. When a Muslim gets owned like the man above.
Please provide scripture from the Quran to back your statement instead of saying WhatsApp university when you can’t even defend your own religion properly

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

That's all you muslims can say after being humiliated. Why is your quran uncreated like allah?

[@fuado6231]

The point he is even saying doesn't even make sense😂😂.
Who knows if this stuff was even planned 🙄

[@wail_52_]

Just like he said he Don't know math 😂 so expect him to believe that 3=1 😂😂
Anyway the answer of the argument is so simple. Jus bcoz the word had an attribute of God (being eternal) specially when it is from God doesn't mean it is also God . Just bcoz my words( for example) is a word of human doesn't mean that this word is another human

[@KhairulFadzlyAKarim]

The Quran is the literal words of Allah but don’t mistaken it with the mushaf which is the written words of the Quran. The mushaf is a creation. It can be destroyed or burnt. The Quran is also being memorized by millions of people around the world verbatim. Even if you burn all the Quran we can still reproduce it words per words. Its only when God took back the Quran from the world will there be no written mushaf nor it being memorized because by then there will be no more muslims. Thats when the Hour is imminent.

[@suffi-rh8hd]

Bro look at that man does he look like he knows anything about Islam?
Ask the same question to someone who knows ❤
Also Quran is the words spoken by Allah ❤❤

[@timeones]

Wow that was a massive leap. God can't be created, we all agree on that. When someone says the Quran was not created they mean not by a man. It's supposed to be the direct words of God as recited to the prophet thru Gabriel. If you don't believe this that's fine. Jews don't believe that the Torah is God. They believe that some of those books had the literal word of God as recited to Moses. The new testament makes no real claim that any of it is the literal word of God unless your a Christian and have been told Jesus is God. A claim he himself never made

[@yadip65]

What do you mean Jesus never claimed to be God. There's several scriptures where Jesus says he is God.

[@timeones]

@@yadip65 show me. The closest u get is "I am the way, the truth and the light"

[@omololuakin-ojo4700]

​@@timeoneslife, not light. John 14:6.
In any case, read John 10:30-36 for His claim.
Shalom. Salam

[@adalahsaleh6851]

Why are you attacking Islam? Promote your religion why are you so afraid of my religion the Quran is the word of a allah ..allah means god

[@TheRealCSD6]

He does both. But in order to bring others to God one can't simply limit themselves to people in their own religion. Him showing people in Islam these things between the two religions shows he isn't afraid of the religion although there is a concern for those falling to Islam and not seeing the actual truth

[@adalahsaleh6851]

@@TheRealCSD6 God spoke to Moses God sent the angel Gabriel to all the prophets and he sent Jesus as a prophet why do you guys complicate things?

[@TheRealCSD6]

@adalahsaleh6851 God did speak to Moses. God didn't send Gabriel to all the prophets. He isn't apart of all their stories. Although I do not see you're point. Are you trying to call our religions the same?

[@adalahsaleh6851]

@@TheRealCSD6 the Jews believe in the one true God, but the problem with them is they rejected Jesus and the prophet Muhammad Christians take Jesus as a God, and rejected the prophet Muhammad, but Muslims. Believe in the one true God, and we believe in Jesus, son of Mary, who was born from a virgin is the Messiah and the prophet of God he’s mentioned 25 times in the holy Quran and there’s a whole chapter, in the Quran dedicated to marry his mother and the reason why Muslim girls cover-up is because the prophet Muhammad said to follow her footsteps to be righteous and to cover up the reason why I am commenting is because this man posts every day about my religion and I have the rights to defend it it’s crazy because Christianity and Islam are the only 2 religions that believe in Jesus

[@TheRealCSD6]

@adalahsaleh6851 We have bibles from before Jesus, at the time of Jesus, after Jesus, during the time of Muhammad and after and all that scripture is the same as what it says today in our bibles. It was the writers of the Quran that distorted scripture and none of those writers had anything to do with the people who wrote the original. They were from a different culture, country, time period and never ever even met the people who began Christianity. There is zero evidence for the Quran's retelling being the actual scripture. All the evidence points to it being the change in story. Christianity is in continuity with Judaism but Islam isn't in continuity with either. All it did was borrow some characters and change their story. When you actually read through the bible and the quran you can clearly see these are 2 different gods. So tell me... with all that said why should one believe Islam is right?

[@umarmohammed2478]

Go talk to shaykh uthman, he’ll show you your ignorance

[@ItisTime1213]

I bet Shaykh don’t want that smoke. This guy is proving more people in the Muslim side that they do not even know their own Quran even when he tells them to read their scripture. Anyone with brains knows that the book is corrupted. They even have a Hadith. There are 17 different copies. And the Quran specifically tells you to follow the original Bible. Lol. And you people are still confused. Then you want to follow “Allah” this demon that allowed Mohamed to take in a young girl before the age of 10. And yes this guys has more evidence on that as well. But I bet you won’t allow another man take in your young daughter in the name of Allah. Let’s see how fast you will despise that request.

[@ethernas7916]

But first, he needs to show is stab wound. And debate him on Morden day debate

[@francescoaccomando7781]

He wouldn't dare debate live with Sam

[@user_87342]

​@@francescoaccomando7781lol..he always open to debate with everyone

[@ninoboy2035]

​@@ethernas7916no, last time Sam ran like chicken

[@christopherloh936]

Sometimes not logical & mysteries are more believable as a religion😂😂😂

[@joshuacook402]

By the amount of editing in this little 30 second clip it’s obvious you cut this video up to make Sam look like he knows what he’s talking about. First he asks a question with the intent to negate the Qur’an being Allah. Then, he asks a question about whether the Qur’an is eternal. But, Sam avoids asking a question which establishes what the Qur’an actually is in essence on purpose so he can have a little ‘gotcha’ moment. The Qur’an is the speech of Allah, which makes it an attribute of Allah. This makes the Qur’an eternal and also not identical to Allah. It’s quite funny how Sam seems so excited to get into these metaphysical discussions about the nature of God, God’s attributes, etc. when he’s speaking to a Muslim with little knowledge who can barely speak English. But when it comes to learned Muslims who have these discussions daily, he runs away (Shaykh Uthman). I’d love to see Sam take a trip to speakers corner and get sent back home with his tail between his legs.

[@ridvannuredinigaming]

Stupid no one is running away from Uthman stop this bullshit Uthman didn't accept to debate Sam on moderndaydebate channel because he is a coward or other Muslim apologists and the question to you if you can answer is: Is the Word of Allah Created or Uncreated? if it's uncreated then you have 2 uncreated things.

[@deejayrofis7859]

Dare you to challenge him

[@mattimako4287]

Exactly!!! The word of God is the essence of God it comes from God, Gods only begotten child, and Jesus is Gods word

[@joshuacook402]

@@mattimako4287 It sounds like you’re saying an attribute of God is identical to God, which violates logic.

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

​@@joshuacook402the logic of the muslims ?

[@aadd3538]

Why not debate with a scholar. Neither of them are educated sufficiently enough to debate. This is just mockery

[@Marry907]

they can except Qur'an is Word of Allah but can't except Jesus is The Word of God 🤭🤭🤭💪❤️

[@coolrockplays697]

As a Muslim I agree with you Jesus is the word of God. As Allah created him without a father just like how Adam and Eve are the words of Allah

[@Marry907]

@@coolrockplays697 u wanna say the Word of God created ? 🤭🤭🤭 Jesus=created , Jesus=Word of God, Word of God=created 🤭🙏 non sance 🤭🙏 🤭

[@coolrockplays697]

@@Marry907 yes the word of God is created your point?

[@Marry907]

@@coolrockplays697 😂😂😂 the word of God is created? How? With another Word of God? 😂😂😂 everything was created through the Word of God 😂😂😂😭😭😭😂😂😂 ur God is funny 🤭🙏🙏 sorry, i just think it's non sense 🤭🙏

[@coolrockplays697]

@@Marry907 The word of God is the word of God like whatever god says is what god created

[@cptmclaren8826]

Bro I cant tell if youre tryna trick him or if you actually think what youre saying makes any sense 😂😭

[@francescoaccomando7781]

He is showing the hypocrisy that muslims have when they argue against the trinity in Christianity, but of course you miss it

[@thetruthnothingbutthetruth1]

Allah is uncreated, He has always had His words & His speech. The Quran is the uncreated words & speech of Allah. How hard is that for you to understand now try & make sense of the Trinity which isn't in the bible, which was rejected by 32 Christian scholars of different Christian denominations deeming it a lie & which is not what any of the Prophets including Yeshua preached. Now please explain it to me

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

​@@thetruthnothingbutthetruth1Similarly the Father is uncreated & always had the Son (the Word of God) and the Holyspirit.
So why do you hypocrite muslims cry when you yourselves believe that Quran is uncreated like allah.
And Trinity is an ancient teaching before muhammad. It's complicated because God unlike anything in creation. But allah is the same as human beings. One being one person.

[@FairozSaadatKhan]

My man. It's the simple plus's rule we can't combine two defferent things!

[@user-jo7vx7fk5h]

Sam let this Muslim know that Islam was created by the Catholics wow that's some interesting information to behold

[@Yusha298]

The word god is with god eternally and when revealed in the language of the time is created to be in that language simple.

[@moradxdarko8024]

Tricking him but the thing is he said quran is not a created being = quran does not have a soul its the words of allah (SWT)

[@AbdulBaariibnAhmed]

Yeah this argument makes no sense it’s like me saying the words that come out of my mouth is an entirely different being

[@HooriAhmed775]

Sam Shamoun is incredibly clever; he should have been cast in 'Dumb and Dumber.' Maybe this perspective will help him understand. If I am created, and my speech is also created, does that mean both my speech and I are two separate creations unrelated to each other? If he says, 'Yes, they are two different creations with no connection,' then I'll have a better chance of showing a donkey the right path than getting through to him. But if he says, 'No,' then the opposite holds true.

[@forex2594]

When 2 best McDonald's colleagues read too much happy meal books😂 dump and dumper

[@ChronoSphinx]

An example of why drugs are bad, no logic used here.

[@hashimab]

Quran is the word of god but not god, it’s not like trinity, because trinity is co-equal. I don’t understand what’s his argument?

[@MorpheusGaming101]

What a silly argument 😂💔

[@sourkage2450]

Bro this arguement makes no sense the quran is the eternal words of allah yes, but being eternal or uncreated as sam puts it does not make somthing god, as the quran does not share any other attributes with allah azzawajal

[@Jupiter977]

You need to debate with Shyakh Uthman or Brother Hamza they will explain you very nice so this information you never forget .
Only one god and always he is only one.

[@francescoaccomando7781]

They are incapable on stay on one topic, so there is no point

[@abbasbeig3943]

Brother Ahmed,
Sheikh Usman is too much for this crook ( Sam, and his gang),
They can not survive a single minute in discussion with me ( a humble servant of Allah, and student of Deen and science).

[@Jupiter977]

@@abbasbeig3943 I agree he is hiding

[@abbasbeig3943]

@@Jupiter977
I pray for him and his gang may Allah give them wisdom/ Hidayah to accept Truth and practice Truth, Aameen.

[@aymanalkotaifany9583]

Simply it's Allah words and it come from him that's why it's not created

[@boyan619]

Have they not, then, traveled on earth so that they should have had hearts to understand with, or ears to listen with? The fact is that it is not the eyes that turn blind, but what turns blind is the hearts contained in the chests. (46)

[@syurgafirdaus7716]

Lets use his logic.
A woman gave birth to a child named John. So, the woman has two children because John is actually two person, it is John and his words
Bruh

[@awambenaawambena5810]

Shamoun only talk with ordinary people . Please show discussion with scholar😊

[@DionaldysSalcedo]

They are sinners with demons inside we need to remove this demon so that the sinner can see

[@HooriAhmed775]

If asked, 'Is the Quran Allah?' answer, 'Yes! Not the ink or the paper, but the speech.'

[@ChronoSphinx]

It’s not, it’s the words of God

[@HooriAhmed775]

@@ChronoSphinx You are not, you are not a human being

[@ChronoSphinx]

@@HooriAhmed775 huh what are you even saying?

[@HooriAhmed775]

@@ChronoSphinx
"it's not, it's the words of God." huh what are you even saying?

[@mrjaks202]

What are you both saying

[@user-fc8hx9se4s]

Quran is not created " by men "
And this Guy somehow desided that
everything not created is God.
stupid logic

[@ericbadu3726]

Muslim position is that the koran is eternal and came into the islamic world as a book via mohamad and his companions.
The Christian position is the word of God which is eternal came into the world as flesh. And this word of God is called the son of God. The Word of God is God , hence the eternal attribute can be applied to the Word of God.

[@ericbadu3726]

@ruslanefendi123 You're stealing from the gospel of John. The Word was with God, ad the Word was God. And the Word of God became flesh and dwelt amongst his people.
The Word is Eternal and called the Son of God.
Now where does Koran say what you claim. At the most you say Koran is eternal and came down as a book.
Memorizing something doesn't make it true or uncorruptible. When you consider the doctrine of lying with authority taqqiya that is preached in Islam,, it makes the thirty or more different versions of the qoran not worth the time.

[@antjoshwww]

if you keep this up Christianity will prosper

[@Sy3dNYC]

Who’s this Indian individual 😂😂😂y’all hire him to do this video??

[@user-cr1bk7kv2w]

Abdul allah momo got spanked with no mercy 😂

[@razvanashah4922]

What is the name of Whanganui is Sam talking about. What's really funny are his facial expressions, you can see he idolises shaykh uthman and is copying his style of delivery. The so called Muslim he's engaging with is not a Muslim, his accent is not Pakistani but typical of Hindu Indians. So Funny.

[@binsarmarpaung332]

GODBLEES YOU shamoun knight preache

[@MuhannadDarwish]

How does this make sense 😂😂😂

[@adalahsaleh6851]

It was sent by the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him you should read it educate yourself

[@J4RMAMS]

No it was sent by the Angel Lucifer a fallen Angel to Mohammed Police Be Upon Him!!!

[@KVJ-w7h]

No because if Any being talks anything besides the good news let him being accursed and Gabriel I know is not cursed but your perverted prophet on the other hand

[@kirkcharlton1308]

Worthless arguement. Just because something is uncreated doesnt make it a god.

[@Srkhawaja]

Allah(saw) is not created by anyone he is one and only god and quran is created by allah(saw)

[@Ricebag1482]

😂😂😂😂😂 bro became a imam

[@hulkeers]

If you mean a book made of paper and printed then that material is created, and that book made up of physical material is called mushaf and quran means recitation, what Allah recited to prophet Muhammad pbuh is called quran and the one which is printed into physical book is called mushaf, you better debate a scholar they will show you your place

[@NotCringy]

Bro do a debate with a muslim, bringing someone telling someone that tell quran is not created, you should ask him where did he get that, if he didn't so u are debunking something that is not existing in islam in the first place.

[@ToHimWeWillBeReturned]

Quran in the book form which is written down by humans is a part of creation.
However the words that Allah used are an attribute. i.e Allahs speech.
Allah's speech is uncreated just like his other attributes.

[@shylahtaeroni5454]

Sam, 1 + 1 equals 2
Also Sam, 1 + 1 + 1 equals 1

[@Ricebag1482]

It's more like 3×1=1 my guy stop using the wrong signs.💀

[@shylahtaeroni5454]

@@Ricebag1482 And that's called multiple personality disorder

[@rozalina531]

Amen in Jesus Christ's name.
Amen ✨️ 🙏🏻 ✨️

[@abdurekia]

Why does have to be anything is uncreated to be a God ?? This term only refers to God only ! + you can debate Mohamed Hijab and see what can you do with him 😉

[@MH-uh7vq]

What the hell??? Is shamoo serious? The only correct statement he made there was saying "I'm not too good at math". Yes .. that is very clear bud.

[@r4ngerr4ge32]

How many uncreated? If two, that either means has multiple persons in one being (like the Christian God), or there are multiple gods, either way it makes tawheed false.

[@MH-uh7vq]

@@r4ngerr4ge32 The Quran is the literal Word of God. It is not a god. We do not worship the Quran. You're attempting to conflate the meaning into something completely different.
Let me ask you a question: when you hear the word "God", what comes to mind?

[@Stolen_entertainment]

​@@MH-uh7vqBut if ur Quran is uncreated that means it is either a god or one of God's persons... you really can't make the connection can u? There can only be one uncreated being or atleast more than one person in the Godhead, like we can literally explain why, but u can't because ur missing THE piece.

[@MH-uh7vq]

@@Stolen_entertainment There is no connection. God has Attributes like All-knowing. Most Merciful. All-powerful, etc. These are attributes only God can have. You are making the leap from "uncreated" to God. All things are dependant upon Allah. The Speech of Allah, depends on the EXISTENCE of God. It is not independent. Explain to be how something that is DEPENDANT upon something else, can be 'god"?

[@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu]

​​@@MH-uh7vqGod to my mind means creator of seen & unseen who is only one, kor'an is not allah but word of allah that is not created so how many creators are there allah & Quran, coz both are uncreated Muslims like logic kindly use logic plzzzz😂😂😂😂

[@asirrak2107]

I don't think this argument was supposed to be taken seriously. It seems as if the muslim made an argument similar to the one Sam is making, and Sam is trying to show why the muslims argument does not work by flipping it back on him. However, this is a bad argument if it was to be taken seriously, and Sam should know better

[@theislamicjourney960]

Really? So shamoun the polytheist admits the bible = god so he whorships a 4in1 god now. Amazing the trinity just expanded its members. Its the quartet gang now.

[@katkit3402]

Spoke to someone speaking, broken English to push some nonsense that Muslims believe in two Gods the Koran is obviously created, and Muslims obviously believe in one God 😂

[@FirstNameLastName-el5vr]

Quran is the words. the words is not Allah. what is the big deal? who ever said Quran is Allah?

[@dullahan8421]

So the father,the son and the Holy Spirit! 1+1+1=3 gods!!!! Christianity ✝️ has 3 gods!

[@zerrouz]

Made me laugh not gonna lie 😂

[@moehamdan6785]

U talk to guys that have no knowledge that's not fair

[@francescoaccomando7781]

You can call him

[@TheTroothseekr]

The Quran is not a created being. Duh. Your “logic” is not at all logical.

[@francescoaccomando7781]

Neither the word of God, the spirit of God and God the father is created. So what is your problem with the trinity?

[@Ricebag1482]

Who said quran is a created being.

[@sikanderzulqurnain3430]

Speaking to someone who cannot understand English lol😂

[@rahamanshaik9256]

😂That was 800year old question answered by Imaam Shaafi RA

[@salaganovahide8403]

Is writing and compiling books not creation?

[@Ricebag1482]

Islam logic

[@Regularbrother123]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 is that your argument?? I’m cracking up looool
The quran is the speech of Allah and Allah spoke it with sound and letters
The quran is an attribute of Allah I don’t see confusion
How do we get to two gods?🤣🤣
The disbelievers are lost

[@TheRealCSD6]

The Quran being the word of God would mean it was created by God. You you are saying it wasn't created. Which makes no sense. The reason why he said 2 gods is because you are literally pointing to two divine sources to submit to. It logically makes no sense.

[@user-ib5gi1lk7s]

Quran is the word of Allah please

[@ahkO28]

What rubbish 😂.
Al Quran is the word of Allah .
Quran is uncreated means it not been created or wrote by prophet Muhammad as he wanted.

[@iamanonymous7244]

When muslim fails to defend this religion he play victim card

[@elalyas2781]

What type of arguement is this 😂 newborn babies?

[@alphatango8080]

1+1=2 so you have two gods...😂😂😂 this is peak of Christian logic,
Allah is one,
Quran is the book Allah sent for the guidance of people, just like Previous books (injeel)
But can u explain trinity, 1=3 & 3=1😅

[@ajvideoz8129]

The bald girl said absolutely nothing

[@Bigboygota250]

This guy in the bottom barely knows what your saying and your twisting up his words you know what your doing and this is wrong you know we worship one god saying a book is a god because of the words of allah are in it and we use it to get closer to allah and “worship “ it Wich we don’t 😂

[@Bogggssss]

Agreed. Chill bro. Not cool.

[@Andre_V_S]

I agree, this man a top should've stopped at the moment he realised the other man was unfamiliar with the topic. However just to confirm. The Quran is a created thing, correct?

[@cainblue448]

So Quran is created right? Something other than Allah exists eternally and it’s a book? Allah did not make it, he is just the editor, right?

[@rahmaamine318]

​@@cainblue448 The holy Quran are the words of Allah inspired to mohamed via the angel gabriel what's so hard to understand? Quran is the word of Allah his message to mankind how can the word of God be God what kind of twisted logic do you have... seriously do you even think through what u comment ? Read the Quran.

[@Andre_V_S]

@@rahmaamine318 Created, got it.

[@GreenWinchester2]

Quran is uncreated, because it is the speech of God. If God is uncreated (he is not bound by the law of existence) then how is his own speech created?

[@sami3289]

So because Jesus is created, then he isn’t God in Christianity either according to his logic

[@Ricebag1482]

Bro forgor the incarnation 💀💀💀💀

[@shadow-x-v4574]

Is knowledge created ???
Meanings and concepts like
Eternal, time, creation, wisdom, living .
Is it created ? if so it did not exist before at certain point .
Which means god did not have them . That’s contradict the concept of god .
Similarly knowledge. The Quran is simply part of ALLAH knowledge.
Gg

[@godslight6293]

God bless you sam

[@davidalexander6714]

*quran is of course created and created by human even*
*but quran in its original form is always with Allah in lauhul mahfudz*

[@ashrafabdal-samad7716]

Sam is a terrible misrepresenter. The Quran is the speech of Allah and speech is not created. Bc Allah is eternal His speech is eternal

[@turkie3577]

I thank God for islam, feel sorry for these people really

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

Thank god for a false religion?

[@turkie3577]

Just ask God for guidance & do your own research , God does not need you , you need God .

[@jojoguanison1466]

Sam Shamuon❤❤❤

[@mohammedghousemohiuddin1652]

Discuss your filthy questions with proper islamic Alim/scholar,you will be toungue tied I swear

[@uguryilmaz6175]

what the hell is this guy talking about…

[@salmansheriff8243]

Debate with mohammad hijab

[@ninesynergy558]

hahaha.. everybody will know the awkward situation of these absurd.. it didt looked like u re the smart person in the room

[@adalahsaleh6851]

There’s only one god allah you’re the one that believes the Trinity, three gods,

[@TheRealCSD6]

That's not what the Trinity is and I think you know that. It's a failed Muslim argument to just make up what Christians believe instead of saying what they actually believe. There is one God but he exists as 3 persons. In scripture more ancient than anything Muslim that Muhammad himself said was true aka the Jewish scripture, God is referenced as Father, he is shown to be Spirit and appeared in human form when he wrestled Jacob, spoke to Abraham, and many other events. These are 3 yet are only the ONE God.