Good day. Can you help me by telling me what settings I need to make to use the SuperD RX as a TX transmitter for the remote control. Is it necessary to change something in the program source for this, and compile it with your settings?
What you guys are doing with ELRS is totally crazy!!! I'm so impressed! I hope soon in future sth similar will be done to HD video!!! Cheers! Good JOB!
It‘s crazy, but to this day there is no module only solution of Gemini out there, so you can replace your transmitters stock module with it, or is there? That’s kinda super sad. @Jye: is your design open source?
Very nice. Rather than repeating identical packets, i wonder whether flipping the bits of the second packet would act as a kind of poor-mans CDMA in that the flipped packet may have different correlation with an interference source, and increase the probability that one of the packets would make it through?
Currently, my Jeti DS24 TX will transmit in 2.4 and 900 (915) simultaneously. Is that how Gemini is setup, or do I transmit 915 from the Internal, and 2.4 GHz from the external bay? Do ELRS receivers support SBUS redundancy passthrough (two RXs wired together)? Thanks!
It makes more sense to twin up a 2.4GHz with an 868/915MHz to provide better redundancy for long range/penetration failsafe. I know 868/915 limits bandwidth, but that's preferable to loosing a model due to common environmental conditions at 2.4GHz
I guess Diversity mode is for when you have a regular TX on your radio and regular setup. I will think flashing Gemini mode on the RX module means that you got a Gemini TX setup on your radio like he has made here on that PCB board. OR! It means that you can run the BetaFPV SuperD as a TX on your radio like he shows in the first radio he flips over.
You guys just keep stretching the envelope with ELRS, this is really next level. Can you start working on some sort of talent booster while you are at it?
i see your gemini tx.....i also see your tlite tx.....any way we can get the gemini on the tlite? Im gonna make an attempt myself but it be cool if you did it 😉
This is thinking outside of the box great work on this. I see only added benefits. It would be good for high noise areas and long range. When can we expect a gemini tx from happy model lol I want one as a external jr moduel
So gemini mode only works with a true diversity receiver and this module would only use one transmit module when using it with a standard or antenna diversity receiver correct?
Sorry, I have to ask some very dumb questions: I want to add ELRS to my Tango2 for Whoops, and Using the EP1 as a Transmitter Module sounds like a fantastic idea! Since Whoop Receivers are usually single Antenna versions, what will the Gemini Mode do with them? Probably nothing if I understand it correctly?
@Jye Smith Hello, I'm totally new to elrs. Currently I have TX16S with module 4in1 but I saw on this video that you have RX as a TX inside of your radio? How it works and how can I implement to my radio?
That is so awesome what you guys are doing. What do you think of this other idea I've been pondering on: the possibility of chaining receivers together in master-slave (or multiple slaves) configuration to obtain flexibility in receiver diversity (also allowing completely different frequency bands if the TX transmits both)? Frsky did this on some of their receivers using the old SBUS in and out ports. If single antenna receivers have a UART available for this then users can perhaps cheaply upgrade to diversity by buying another single antenna receiver.
I've previously thought it would be great to have flight controllers that allow multiple Rx serial connections. You then have complete hardware redundancy.
I was going to ask the same thing actually. fields I fly at require rx redundancy for any large EDF planes. Spektrum and frsky allow you to chain rx together that's the whole spektrum "satellite" thing it's a bunch of little rx's about $100 each with the master rx costing $200-$400.
Nice! One idea, if you sync the two TXs in such a way they send in turn, but each at 1000Hz, you essentially will get 2000Hz packet rate! Wonder how that will feel like.
@@edwinramirez7070 ah that is from AliExpress. Here's the product title that should help you find it. 1/5PCS High Quality 6mm 3/6Pin 2 Position Mini Momentary Automatic return Push Button Switchl ON OFF 5A125V/2A250V Toggle Switch
Jye: Does this
Trappy and Tony: Write that down! Write that down!
Instead of rambling for 10 mins, couldn't you just write up 4 sentences about what this is? Then ramble for 10 mins about it, I guess.
Just read the description or something... IDK 🤷
@@JyeSmith I click the video to get the description. IDK, maybe just write it up.
Good day. Can you help me by telling me what settings I need to make to use the SuperD RX as a TX transmitter for the remote control. Is it necessary to change something in the program source for this, and compile it with your settings?
This is great! Finally I can fly beyond the solar system!
Always one step ahead of the game Jye! I think this would be very useful for long range purposes too...
Agreed. This is awesome
What you guys are doing with ELRS is totally crazy!!! I'm so impressed! I hope soon in future sth similar will be done to HD video!!! Cheers! Good JOB!
Extra link security is always welcome! Excited to see this progress
It‘s crazy, but to this day there is no module only solution of Gemini out there, so you can replace your transmitters stock module with it, or is there? That’s kinda super sad. @Jye: is your design open source?
Oh boy, DVDA always reminds me of southpark... But yeah - very cool!
Very nice. Rather than repeating identical packets, i wonder whether flipping the bits of the second packet would act as a kind of poor-mans CDMA in that the flipped packet may have different correlation with an interference source, and increase the probability that one of the packets would make it through?
Interesting idea and sort of like changing the whitening. Could be interesting when packets are repeated on the same frequency like we see with D250.
@@JyeSmith Yes. Might be fairly straightforward to implement in software. I'll suggest it as a github issue...
Currently, my Jeti DS24 TX will transmit in 2.4 and 900 (915) simultaneously. Is that how Gemini is setup, or do I transmit 915 from the Internal, and 2.4 GHz from the external bay? Do ELRS receivers support SBUS redundancy passthrough (two RXs wired together)? Thanks!
It makes more sense to twin up a 2.4GHz with an 868/915MHz to provide better redundancy for long range/penetration failsafe. I know 868/915 limits bandwidth, but that's preferable to loosing a model due to common environmental conditions at 2.4GHz
All of these modes are based on subdividing a 1khz packet rate and 900mhz cannot modulate that fast.
Is HappyModel allready doing diversity TX? 👀
where the gemini receiver to buy？
Betafpv SuperD receiver has “Diversity” and “Gemini” mode, what do they mean and which option should I use?
I guess Diversity mode is for when you have a regular TX on your radio and regular setup. I will think flashing Gemini mode on the RX module means that you got a Gemini TX setup on your radio like he has made here on that PCB board. OR! It means that you can run the BetaFPV SuperD as a TX on your radio like he shows in the first radio he flips over.
Is this still the most up to date PCB/version? I find this allot more tempting to have an internal module than the external BETAfpv Gemini module.
is this the target to flash?
Generic ESP32 2.4Ghz Gemini TX
You guys just keep stretching the envelope with ELRS, this is really next level.
Can you start working on some sort of talent booster while you are at it?
i see your gemini tx.....i also see your tlite tx.....any way we can get the gemini on the tlite? Im gonna make an attempt myself but it be cool if you did it 😉
So... Many... Packets. I can't wait to try on long range
Could this be used for as redundancy for BVLOS operations?
This is thinking outside of the box great work on this. I see only added benefits. It would be good for high noise areas and long range. When can we expect a gemini tx from happy model lol I want one as a external jr moduel
do you have any of the PCBs for sale?
wait where can i find the gerber?
So gemini mode only works with a true diversity receiver and this module would only use one transmit module when using it with a standard or antenna diversity receiver correct?
Yep that's correct.
Sorry, I have to ask some very dumb questions:
I want to add ELRS to my Tango2 for Whoops, and Using the EP1 as a Transmitter Module sounds like a fantastic idea!
Since Whoop Receivers are usually single Antenna versions, what will the Gemini Mode do with them? Probably nothing if I understand it correctly?
@Jye Smith
Hello, I'm totally new to elrs. Currently I have TX16S with module 4in1 but I saw on this video that you have RX as a TX inside of your radio? How it works and how can I implement to my radio?
Wow thats absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for everything you do!
Excellent video, not all heroes wear capes :), can you do a video on the Fenix F405 you have so many great projects
Really interesting progress! Thanks mate!
Great video Jye! I'm a day late watching this one so it's probably all outdated already haha.
Thanks mate. Are you still flying FPV?
Could the same approach be appreciated for a 900Mhz variant?
It could, but I've only done it here for 2.4.
That is so awesome what you guys are doing.
What do you think of this other idea I've been pondering on: the possibility of chaining receivers together in master-slave (or multiple slaves) configuration to obtain flexibility in receiver diversity (also allowing completely different frequency bands if the TX transmits both)? Frsky did this on some of their receivers using the old SBUS in and out ports. If single antenna receivers have a UART available for this then users can perhaps cheaply upgrade to diversity by buying another single antenna receiver.
I've previously thought it would be great to have flight controllers that allow multiple Rx serial connections. You then have complete hardware redundancy.
I was going to ask the same thing actually. fields I fly at require rx redundancy for any large EDF planes. Spektrum and frsky allow you to chain rx together that's the whole spektrum "satellite" thing it's a bunch of little rx's about $100 each with the master rx costing $200-$400.
+1👍 🧠
Nice! One idea, if you sync the two TXs in such a way they send in turn, but each at 1000Hz, you essentially will get 2000Hz packet rate! Wonder how that will feel like.
Youre a wizard!!111
So the transmitter would be drawing twice the power ?
Yerp
Awesome 😎
Hay what switches do u have on ur t16s on the 4 top one's looks a lot cleaner could u shoot me the link were to get them?
Switches are all stock.
@@JyeSmith can I email u a pic of what am talking about cus it looks like u have momentary switches on the top of yours?
@@edwinramirez7070 ah that is from AliExpress. Here's the product title that should help you find it.
1/5PCS High Quality 6mm 3/6Pin 2 Position Mini Momentary Automatic return Push Button Switchl ON OFF 5A125V/2A250V Toggle Switch
Black borders on the video are a bit weird for me
Sorry. Let me pull it down and correct.
are there any gemini TX modules available?