This was me. Acting Manager of my team for a full year. Was told not to apply for any other roles, as I was guaranteed a promotion. Performance reviews before and during were exemplary. When it came to take the "Acting" title off I was told that I was "toxic" that i sucked at the role and for the good of the team i was being transferred out of Engineering and into a Project Manager team. In addition I was threatened with disciplinary action if I didn't accept. On way home from work I stopped at Men's Warehouse and bought two suits. Then started a job search when i got home. Within 2-months I had a new job in another state. They were in complete shock when I gave notice.
honstly if someone dose a good job in a feild even for a month and everyone likes ayou and you suspect it this is what anyone should do acapt the poison then if you have pto take pto off why becouse it puts the squze on the comapny and after a month out of 90 days you stop complety tell your boss hay i cant do this anymore its to stressfull and i dont think this job is for me now as they look for someone else the company is fucked and the best thing you can do is wait befoer the quter or a big meeting turn over all the information and when they ask why you say well i dont like the posion its not worth the pay and im ok with my other job so if i could step down that be great then if they say no you cant step down then you say ok then i have no choice heres my 2 week notice im sorry but my hands are tied if i cant step down then this is my 2 weeks notice
The response when I used that line was "Well your store manager feels yoy priced yourself, but I (the regional manager) am not so sure. No other manager (in entirely different locations that have nothing to do with me) even knows who you are. This opportunity is for you to prove yourself to another manager." It's always just BS.
And don't forget the fact that you'll be held responsible for all the managerial duties but yet not be allowed any authority to make decisions. And if you do, any decision you make will be immediately countermanded and any good ideas you have will be ignored until your own manager decides that they were their idea in the first place and takes credit for them. In other words, you do someone else's job while they get paid for it and get the credit for it. There's a word for that.
Here's how that situation would play out in real life if she were to say yes: she would do the job, not get paid and someone else would be hired in 3 months whether she proved herself or not. They would just use her while looking at other candidates
This right here is the biggest load of bullshit, at my last job, a coworker who'd been trying for a year for a promotion was given an 'acting director' role with zero increase, after 6 months they hired an outside director and put her back in her role and told her she did amazing but they needed someone with an outside perspective. but during that 6 months, she stepped up so high and so effing hard, our whole team respected her and we told our upper mgmt that because we wanted her to be our permanent boss, she made us more productive and kept everyone happy. they replaced her with an ahole from cisco who literally played in our playground while he was let go and rehired by cisco for 3 months, he treated us like garbage and made several of us quit, if we brought him concerns he'd say 'complain complain complain, that's all you do'. after he quit without notice like we KNEW he would (we warned upper mgmt because we saw he never changed his linkedin and other signs) they asked my coworker to be the acting director AGAIN with the same dangling carrot. She, being optimistic, accepted AGAIN, and then what'd they do? made her do the work and didn't give her the title this time and replaced her a week later with someone's best friend. she gave two weeks notice after that. and during that last 2 weeks they treated her like she was dead. I and 3 others left over it.
If I'm treated poorly during my notice, I'll tell the company that two weeks can change to be effective immediately. They're not entitled to notice and if I give that courtesy and it's disrespected, the courtesy will go away.
@@christopherscott8272Companies respect employees that hold boundaries. Every company has a few workers, usually older, that do whatever they want but don't get fired cause they do quality work
Every time I hear that viper hissing " hey, Veronica, do you have a second?" I hear ALL the managers. This is so spot on! During my time at a few corporations, I learned quickly that "do you have a second " is always a sign of very bad news. I react to these words with allergy.
I once heard a comedian say the analog to this in personal relationships: In the history of the English language, no good words have ever followed "can we talk?"
But, if they hire from outside, that person does not have to prove themselves. They want to give the manager work to Veronica to do for free while they take their time finding Veronica’s new boss, and then they’ll ask Veronica to train her new boss. Been there. Done that.
My dad is a Meineke store manager and was promoted to regional manager after they fired the previous guy. They first gave him the position and didn't change his pay for four months during an "introductory" period in which they finally agreed to 90k salary + commission for store performances. After two months, the owner came back and said they actually want to split the role between him and the owner's buddy, and bring his pay back down to just above what he was making as a store manager. He quit on the spot. The business got so bad that after several calls from the owner over weeks, he agreed to come back as a store manager making his 90k salary. Never let companies screw you over if you know they be screwed without you.
They tried to pull this crap on me. An Assistant Manager retired and they wanted to give me his position with no increase in pay and no title. They said I wouldn’t be taking on “all” his responsibilities which was BS.
My assistant manager did this. Told me she was thinking about leaving. Trained me on her duties (gas station so counting drawers, checking prices, hanging signs, counting cigarettes etc). Two weeks later I'm still doing all this and I'm like, "what's your leave date?" She gave me a shocked Pikachu face and said she hasn't decided yet. I'm like ah OK, well then you can have your responsibilities back. Side note I quit 6 months later. 😂 she was still the assistant.
I have decided to never ever extend myself to do more than what I am being paid to do. These jobs need to hold supervisors accountable when they become short staffed. Don't call it being a team player when one is doing the job of two or more and the supervisors leave early and don't do anything extra.
Spent years as a “temporary” worker. They love to dangle the carrot in front of people to get free labor out of them. I’ve seen a lot of people do unpaid overtime as contingent staff to get that permanent job. I interviewed seven times at that company, four of those positions I was already filling as a temp over a period of about five years. Made it through the interview process to the end and never got hired. Why? Never found out.
You serious? You worked for FIVE YEARS without pay? Should have said after at least the the first two months "if you don't hire me and start paying me then I quit"
That's why I'll never do a job like that without them putting it in writing. What duties, for how long, some additional compensation should be part of the deal even if not the full manager pay and a specific date the extra work either stops or I'm promoted permanently with full manager pay. If they can't put it in writing, it's an empty promise and I'm not interested.
@@user-ry2gz6lf3b I was paid, but without the benefits of a full time job while the full time person next to me doing the same job was getting stock options, paid vacation, free health insurance, dental, etc.
@@user-ry2gz6lf3b you misunderstand me. I was a contractor and I was paid. However, the full time employee doing the same job next to me received full medical, stock options, and other benefits I could not get. I worked there for 19 years (intermittently), the five years was with one team.
Oh, that is so easy: You already do the job for little money. Why would they pay you more? You'll be a temporary worker forever, that is just so convenient.
If they don't value you enough to pay you your worth NOW, don't expect them to do so if they "promote" you either! In fact, I'd hand them my 2-week notice at the same time as declining that insulting "offer!"
It’s a free manager labor from Veronica until the external candidate is hired for lower pay and then they will say Veronica just wasn’t fit then Veronica will be asked to onboard and train the new manager 😂
why do you get 30 days? no. no 30 days. would they ask a new outside hire to work for free for 30 day? no. Veronica would not tolerate 30 days of unpaid increased responsibility and neither should you.
Nope. No days. They can give you the interim role for 30 days if they want, even 160. But they MUST pay you for that role at the rate it is at. After all they have the option of hiring someone else during the interim period, that's what the interim part is about, optionality, not pay.
In any of the Fortune 500's I have had 'the pleasure' (yes, sarcasm) to work for, Veronica would have been viewed and reviewed as an extremely difficult person to work with, uncooperative, opinionated, harsh and as a non-team player.
While interviewing I was told that a promo was absolutely possible. We discussed potential titles and I didn’t like the one proposed as it was too general and could be an entry level title. The hiring manager assured me we would work on a future title together. Took the job. Asked about a promo at the 2 ½ yr mark and was told that I’m great but dropped the ball a couple of times- very minor but… I didn’t argue. Came back the next year and heard some lame excuse but I didn’t back down. Then the tune changed. Suddenly there was talk about the potential outcomes: 1. I get the promo, 2. I don’t get it, 3. I get a lateral - title change only and no extra $ HR only approved a title change and when they tried to give me more work, I reminded them that it was only a title change to reflect the work I’d already been doing above what was in my job description.
True story. There's a lady at my job who's acting team lead without the pay. She was expecting an annual pay raise bump and nope! She worked the role a few months, but the company wants her to prove her until the next annual review. 🤐
Such companies do themselves no favours - not only does she now have the experience to go work somewhere else, she also has a completely valid and relatable reason for wanting to leave!
I only wish I would have declined my "Intern Management" position I held for 9 months only to be told, I was already at capped in my position and they hired someone to filled that position. Oh and was to welcome him and train him as well as share my notes. I quit that evening, wrote a nice very informative letter to the board of the directors and got unemployment based on forceful quiting. I cashed out my 401, paid all my bills a couple of months ahead and relaxed for 2 months!
Got this treatment from a fast food chain I worked for. I was assistant manager and our general manager got fired. I was asked to be acting store manager to prove I could handle it. I was store manager for a month with the backing of the vast majority of the crew but when time came to announce the store manager they gave it to another general manager because her store was closing, it was closing because she ran it into the ground!! I didn't work there long after that.
Just cause you're interim doesn't mean you get it. Transferring a manager likely saves them termination costs. But they obviously thought you were decent, shouldn't have left unless you had a better offer IMO.
If they promote there’s a hole, so the 90 days is to interview someone outside. If they wanted her they would promote and then have her use the 90 days to find her replacement
I worked in a dept where a manager boasted to a worker that they use the carrot and stick approach and maybe you’ll get promoted, maybe not, it’ll be years of that approach etc. He was such an ahole.
I was at a company for 8 1/2 years as the solo IT guy. I did Director level Work. I want to ask him for the title of IT Director, with no extra pay, they declined. I made it clear that I wasn’t seeking any extra pay or perks, I just wanted the title because they were selling the company and I needed to have my résumé up after I was gone. They Lied about wanting to give me the title and dragged it out for about two months and then I finally quit.
😂😂😂 I've been in this exact situation and I'll say what I said back then “ absolutely not!” Such a manipulative tactic and there should be laws against this type of sinister behavior.
Oh oh this is on par with you’re training your new manager! 🤪 Btw sorry about you not getting the position. So and So’s kid just graduated from university and needed a position to pay off their student debt. But we are keeping an ey e out for your next opportunity. Meanwhile you will get to train them since you know the job!🤪
This happened to me. After the acting period was over, interviews were taken. I got selected too. But then my salary wasn't increased. Just. Just the title changed. And load of work of course.
Not only are you saving lives, you deserve an award for educating workers on the fact that most company interactions are premeditated, fully researched, and calculated moves to advance the company/organization agenda, whether it helps the employee or not. And as shown here, the system is set up to use free skilled labor for months - even years - on the basis of a lie. A lie that will be denied, although at that point it would be too late. Thank you so much! My future in the workplace will be absolutely different and I may actually have a chance at a position with pay and benefits that I actually want.
The problem with declining acting managerial role is they would put some one who is below you in pay grade and and experience in that position and he will be bossing you.
I mean heck at least she got the money even temporarily, they were asses to not promote her but at least wise enough to not completely screw the pooch.
Lol. I tried to establish boundaries like you do and ended up getting a warning for something else, a meaningless little thing that didn’t really warrant a warning.
I love Veronica's stand on everything, though the biggest take is the comments here - wow, employees get screwed over so many ways it's almost become the norm!
As I like to say: "We used to have slaves, soon we will have robots, but for now we have YOU". I say this to students, speaking for potential employers. I think they are all amazed and outraged that we want wages AT ALL!
They did this to me. And then they gave the job to somebody else. I couldn't quit because it was a very small industry and nowhere to go...some years later the guy who made the decision said he made a mistake and should have taken me, but that was small consolation. Later, when I became a department head, over half of my guys told me I was the best manager they ever had. And when I eventually quit my job (by now in a different company) and retired because they pissed me off so much, half of my guys kept in touch with me for years afterward which was pretty nice I thought.
I had this happen to me. Worked for 5 years at a job. Had one of the best departments in the region. While doing my own job, would go out into the store and fix things, outworked people in their own departments, did janitorial jobs, helped customers, and so on. A manager came to me and asked if I wanted to be an assistant manager. I asked what that required, and they said staying longer hours and having more responsibilities. I asked if there was a pay raise involved. No. I asked if I would be getting paid for the extra hours. No. I was expected to clock out as normal, then keep working for free. The minute he said 'for free' I couldn't help it, and laughed in his face, which he didn't appear to appreciate. I then asked him why would I ever do something like that if there's no benefit for me in it? He glared for a bit, then walked away. Later that year, they played some real dirty games and fired me, claiming all sorts of stuff. The first thing they called was proven fake easily, and the second, and the third. But they kept coming up with stuff until I just gave up and let them do what they wanted.
Them: We'd like to offer you an acting manager role. Me: Ok. How will this work? Them: As you know, our current manager is leaving. You'd be taking over managerial duties temporarily (they don't tell you this, but you'd be doing your job AND the managerial job). If you perform well, you'll potentially be promoted. Me: Ok. Will I get the manager's pay? Them: No. As this is a 90 day trial period to see if you can handle the position, we will not be paying you more until the 90 days are up AND you earn the promotion. Me: So, let me see if I understand what's going on here. Our manager is leaving and you want me to do 2 jobs while being paid for only ONE. Not only that, I'd be working my butt off doing two jobs with no pay increase for a promotion that'll likely never happen. If I perform well, I'll obviously not get the promotion. If I do perform well, there's no guarantee I'll be promoted because you can find another reason to not promote me because you said that I'll "potentially" be promoted if I perform well. Them: Well, it's not going to look good on you if you don't accept this. Me: Gaslighting? That just means you know that I'm right. This isn't a 2 for 1 deal. I get paid to do my job, and my job alone. If you want me to do more, you need to pay me more. Them: I'm not paying you extra for doing extra. Either you accept your new responsibilities, or you'll be subject to disciplinary action. Me: Disciplinary action? What are you going to do? Write me up? Tf is that going to accomplish? Are you going to fire me? Nobody wants to work anymore, we have had hiring signs up for the last 6 months with NO new hires. You're not going to fire me for denying a scam promotion. You need me more than I need you. If I lost my job today, I can go down the street and have another job in 20 minutes. I'm not job-scared. Them: You're right. If you leave, we'll be more short-handed than we already are. Because you've already proven yourself over the years you've worked here, we'll be promoting you to manager with no acting title. And, you get the previous manager's pay.
In a place like this, The 90 days is to give them time to find and hire a manager from a totally unrelated field (say, you do customer service for an insurance company, and they were an Amazon warehouse manager) The person has a degree and six sigma training, but their skills barely translate inte a rusl day to day, because they know almost nothing about the actual work being done in this field... And then after having downte work successfully for 90 days and being passed up, they want you to train that person for free while also continuing to do your own daily work. Which is maddening, because if you did the job well enough to train someone on it, why were you not good enough to be promoted to it?
I know someone who is exactly in this position right now. They are doing managerial duties for no extra pay with a promise of promotion. I keep telling them they are being used, but they don't want to listen. They are very competitive.... It is funny how competitive people make the best slaves.
You forgot the other part of this request. They expect you to do the managerial work and the job you're doing now.
I was going to say that exact same thing! Thank you ❤
Bingo! 🥳🎉🤣
With unpaid overtime.
Right!!!!
Yup
This was me. Acting Manager of my team for a full year. Was told not to apply for any other roles, as I was guaranteed a promotion. Performance reviews before and during were exemplary. When it came to take the "Acting" title off I was told that I was "toxic" that i sucked at the role and for the good of the team i was being transferred out of Engineering and into a Project Manager team. In addition I was threatened with disciplinary action if I didn't accept. On way home from work I stopped at Men's Warehouse and bought two suits. Then started a job search when i got home. Within 2-months I had a new job in another state. They were in complete shock when I gave notice.
Well done!! 🥳🥳 I am glad ypu served those SOBs a huge helping of humble pie! 🎉🎉
honstly if someone dose a good job in a feild even for a month and everyone likes ayou and you suspect it this is what anyone should do acapt the poison then if you have pto take pto off why becouse it puts the squze on the comapny and after a month out of 90 days you stop complety tell your boss hay i cant do this anymore its to stressfull and i dont think this job is for me now as they look for someone else the company is fucked and the best thing you can do is wait befoer the quter or a big meeting turn over all the information and when they ask why you say well i dont like the posion its not worth the pay and im ok with my other job so if i could step down that be great then if they say no you cant step down then you say ok then i have no choice heres my 2 week notice im sorry but my hands are tied if i cant step down then this is my 2 weeks notice
#InternetBroFist for you! So glad to hear you left such a toxic place!
I love it!😏
@@Aaron-gp2eedo you not have spell check on your device? Nice thought but such horrible kindergarten spelling makes you instantly look dumb.
"I've apparently already proved myself because you are asking me to perform that role in the first place"
Exactly what I thought
Same thing I though as the words were being spoken.
The response when I used that line was "Well your store manager feels yoy priced yourself, but I (the regional manager) am not so sure. No other manager (in entirely different locations that have nothing to do with me) even knows who you are. This opportunity is for you to prove yourself to another manager."
It's always just BS.
My response would have been: "If I haven't proven myself by this point, why are you offering me the position?"
The perfect response 👌🏾
And don't forget the fact that you'll be held responsible for all the managerial duties but yet not be allowed any authority to make decisions. And if you do, any decision you make will be immediately countermanded and any good ideas you have will be ignored until your own manager decides that they were their idea in the first place and takes credit for them. In other words, you do someone else's job while they get paid for it and get the credit for it. There's a word for that.
I think the most polite word is "theft". 😉
Huh, I thought it was "SUCKER-RRRRRRR!"
🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯. Happened to me. And I forced them to give me the assistant manager position and it was not worth the headache.
I would think "the word" would be "looking for a new job" (OK, that's more than one word!)
Don't forget you'll also get blamed for EVERYTHING that goes wrong while you get no props for good work.
Here's how that situation would play out in real life if she were to say yes: she would do the job, not get paid and someone else would be hired in 3 months whether she proved herself or not. They would just use her while looking at other candidates
I got a better one. Work for free for three months. Get the promotion with pay. They still treat you like dirt because they.know. you.will.take.it.
Don't leave out the best part! Where they have the audacity to ask her to train the person who got the job instead of her!
Ooooh I forgot the train your new boss part. THAT HAPPENS A LOT
100% gonna say you are somehow not suitable for the job *you are doing* THEN require you to train a novice with minimal qualifications for the role!
@@jancw Happened to my co-worker. His new "boss" depends on him to submit and review his own work
This right here is the biggest load of bullshit, at my last job, a coworker who'd been trying for a year for a promotion was given an 'acting director' role with zero increase, after 6 months they hired an outside director and put her back in her role and told her she did amazing but they needed someone with an outside perspective. but during that 6 months, she stepped up so high and so effing hard, our whole team respected her and we told our upper mgmt that because we wanted her to be our permanent boss, she made us more productive and kept everyone happy. they replaced her with an ahole from cisco who literally played in our playground while he was let go and rehired by cisco for 3 months, he treated us like garbage and made several of us quit, if we brought him concerns he'd say 'complain complain complain, that's all you do'. after he quit without notice like we KNEW he would (we warned upper mgmt because we saw he never changed his linkedin and other signs) they asked my coworker to be the acting director AGAIN with the same dangling carrot. She, being optimistic, accepted AGAIN, and then what'd they do? made her do the work and didn't give her the title this time and replaced her a week later with someone's best friend. she gave two weeks notice after that. and during that last 2 weeks they treated her like she was dead. I and 3 others left over it.
NEVER BE LOYAL TO A COMPANY, BECAUSE THEY WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER BE LOYAL TO YOU
If I'm treated poorly during my notice, I'll tell the company that two weeks can change to be effective immediately. They're not entitled to notice and if I give that courtesy and it's disrespected, the courtesy will go away.
Yup something similar happened to me as an Acting Manager.
Don't ya just love your corporate family?😒
Dang that's insane. I hope you found a better workplace. Peace of mind is everything
“Oh you can tell them I decline permanently!” 😳😂😂😂
Veronica is a beast, I aspire to be like her lol
Veronica was fired last week.
@b1r2y3n Wait holon lol, where's that video??
Hope you don't like having a job.
@@b1r2y3nwhy fire her for doing her job? If your company isn’t good enough to pay her more for the responsibilities then your company is useless😂
@@christopherscott8272Companies respect employees that hold boundaries. Every company has a few workers, usually older, that do whatever they want but don't get fired cause they do quality work
Translation, "We need your talents to fill a void until we can hire someone else to fill the role...we are using you."
I hate how relatable and depressively accurate those sketch are 😂
Every time I hear that viper hissing " hey, Veronica, do you have a second?" I hear ALL the managers. This is so spot on! During my time at a few corporations, I learned quickly that "do you have a second " is always a sign of very bad news. I react to these words with allergy.
Veronica should pull out a stopwatch every time she's interrupted.
Or being called to the training room via the store speaker system.
I once heard a comedian say the analog to this in personal relationships: In the history of the English language, no good words have ever followed "can we talk?"
"Pay me managerial level salary to show me that you're serious about paying me a promotional wage when the time comes. I need y'all to step up."
Whenever someone tells you it’s an “opportunity” it’s an opportunity for them not you.
But, if they hire from outside, that person does not have to prove themselves. They want to give the manager work to Veronica to do for free while they take their time finding Veronica’s new boss, and then they’ll ask Veronica to train her new boss. Been there. Done that.
I’m addicted to this… this is reality check!
This scenario is not even a stretch.
Not a stretch? It's a lived scenario at most companies. I've had it happen. I was just a sucker who didn't know better
My dad is a Meineke store manager and was promoted to regional manager after they fired the previous guy.
They first gave him the position and didn't change his pay for four months during an "introductory" period in which they finally agreed to 90k salary + commission for store performances. After two months, the owner came back and said they actually want to split the role between him and the owner's buddy, and bring his pay back down to just above what he was making as a store manager. He quit on the spot.
The business got so bad that after several calls from the owner over weeks, he agreed to come back as a store manager making his 90k salary.
Never let companies screw you over if you know they be screwed without you.
Shoulda made them pay extra for the inconvenience
They tried to pull this crap on me. An Assistant Manager retired and they wanted to give me his position with no increase in pay and no title. They said I wouldn’t be taking on “all” his responsibilities which was BS.
My assistant manager did this. Told me she was thinking about leaving. Trained me on her duties (gas station so counting drawers, checking prices, hanging signs, counting cigarettes etc). Two weeks later I'm still doing all this and I'm like, "what's your leave date?" She gave me a shocked Pikachu face and said she hasn't decided yet. I'm like ah OK, well then you can have your responsibilities back. Side note I quit 6 months later. 😂 she was still the assistant.
Meanwhile they look at applicants who if hired are paid from day one who may or may not be a "good fit"
This.
Ultimately, the only way you know whether your employer respects you or not is to look at your paycheck.
❤
“I’m sure it makes sense to someone”
Is my favorite quote from this channel
"I wanted to present you with the opportunity..." Right there you know there's going to be some kind of corporate BS to follow.
yeah... and amazing how its always an opportunity that benefits the company, never the employee.
I love Veronica! She is an absolute beast at work! 😂😂😂
Your reward for good work is.....more work.
I have decided to never ever extend myself to do more than what I am being paid to do. These jobs need to hold supervisors accountable when they become short staffed. Don't call it being a team player when one is doing the job of two or more and the supervisors leave early and don't do anything extra.
I don’t take on manager role or duties without manager pay. Period.
You heard, Veronica! She said she declined!! And that's on PERIOD!!!😊😊😊😂😂😂
Spent years as a “temporary” worker. They love to dangle the carrot in front of people to get free labor out of them. I’ve seen a lot of people do unpaid overtime as contingent staff to get that permanent job.
I interviewed seven times at that company, four of those positions I was already filling as a temp over a period of about five years. Made it through the interview process to the end and never got hired. Why? Never found out.
You serious? You worked for FIVE YEARS without pay? Should have said after at least the the first two months "if you don't hire me and start paying me then I quit"
That's why I'll never do a job like that without them putting it in writing. What duties, for how long, some additional compensation should be part of the deal even if not the full manager pay and a specific date the extra work either stops or I'm promoted permanently with full manager pay. If they can't put it in writing, it's an empty promise and I'm not interested.
@@user-ry2gz6lf3b I was paid, but without the benefits of a full time job while the full time person next to me doing the same job was getting stock options, paid vacation, free health insurance, dental, etc.
@@user-ry2gz6lf3b you misunderstand me. I was a contractor and I was paid. However, the full time employee doing the same job next to me received full medical, stock options, and other benefits I could not get. I worked there for 19 years (intermittently), the five years was with one team.
Oh, that is so easy: You already do the job for little money. Why would they pay you more? You'll be a temporary worker forever, that is just so convenient.
Oh you proved you could do the job, they just don't want to pay.
If they don't value you enough to pay you your worth NOW, don't expect them to do so if they "promote" you either! In fact, I'd hand them my 2-week notice at the same time as declining that insulting "offer!"
It’s a free manager labor from Veronica until the external candidate is hired for lower pay and then they will say Veronica just wasn’t fit then Veronica will be asked to onboard and train the new manager 😂
I get 30 days. 60 is pushing it. But 90? An entire quarter for a job you “might” get? Hard pass.
why do you get 30 days? no. no 30 days. would they ask a new outside hire to work for free for 30 day? no. Veronica would not tolerate 30 days of unpaid increased responsibility and neither should you.
@@itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808 - plenty of jobs have a 30 to 60 days probationary period. It’s not that unusual.
Nope. No days. They can give you the interim role for 30 days if they want, even 160. But they MUST pay you for that role at the rate it is at. After all they have the option of hiring someone else during the interim period, that's what the interim part is about, optionality, not pay.
How can she not be a 'team player' and help them out?!?!? Isn't the office 'like a family'?!?!?
hahaahahahahahahahaahaha
I am so, so glad I do not have to work in Corporate America any longer!!! 😁I don't miss it one bit.
In any of the Fortune 500's I have had 'the pleasure' (yes, sarcasm) to work for, Veronica would have been viewed and reviewed as an extremely difficult person to work with, uncooperative, opinionated, harsh and as a non-team player.
While interviewing I was told that a promo was absolutely possible. We discussed potential titles and I didn’t like the one proposed as it was too general and could be an entry level title. The hiring manager assured me we would work on a future title together.
Took the job. Asked about a promo at the 2 ½ yr mark and was told that I’m great but dropped the ball a couple of times- very minor but… I didn’t argue. Came back the next year and heard some lame excuse but I didn’t back down. Then the tune changed. Suddenly there was talk about the potential outcomes:
1. I get the promo,
2. I don’t get it,
3. I get a lateral - title change only and no extra $
HR only approved a title change and when they tried to give me more work, I reminded them that it was only a title change to reflect the work I’d already been doing above what was in my job description.
Goddamn Veronica. Im a blue collar worker, but these shorts are my guilty pleasure.
True story. There's a lady at my job who's acting team lead without the pay. She was expecting an annual pay raise bump and nope! She worked the role a few months, but the company wants her to prove her until the next annual review. 🤐
Poor lady, I'll take me and my resume to other campany ✌🏻🚶🏽♀️🚶🏽♀️✌🏻
Happened to me. I eventually quit
Such companies do themselves no favours - not only does she now have the experience to go work somewhere else, she also has a completely valid and relatable reason for wanting to leave!
I only wish I would have declined my "Intern Management" position I held for 9 months only to be told, I was already at capped in my position and they hired someone to filled that position. Oh and was to welcome him and train him as well as share my notes. I quit that evening, wrote a nice very informative letter to the board of the directors and got unemployment based on forceful quiting. I cashed out my 401, paid all my bills a couple of months ahead and relaxed for 2 months!
Got this treatment from a fast food chain I worked for. I was assistant manager and our general manager got fired. I was asked to be acting store manager to prove I could handle it. I was store manager for a month with the backing of the vast majority of the crew but when time came to announce the store manager they gave it to another general manager because her store was closing, it was closing because she ran it into the ground!! I didn't work there long after that.
Just cause you're interim doesn't mean you get it. Transferring a manager likely saves them termination costs. But they obviously thought you were decent, shouldn't have left unless you had a better offer IMO.
Get em Veronica!!
If they promote there’s a hole, so the 90 days is to interview someone outside. If they wanted her they would promote and then have her use the 90 days to find her replacement
I just discovered Veronica and she’s the employee I wish I was for all these years!
They are doing this to my assistant manager at my work. They tried to get me to I said not without the pay.
Yes Veronica stand firm 🙌🏾
Wow, these companies these days, on a whole another level
If I'm "acting", I'd better get paid. Point blank.
Excellent answer! Bosses just have no brains sometimes and think employees are to be used!
Because she has self respect and boundaries .
Remember "the right person in the right seat" means that person will never be promoted.
Exact thing happened to a coworker...4 months in the role and then was passed over
I worked in a dept where a manager boasted to a worker that they use the carrot and stick approach and maybe you’ll get promoted, maybe not, it’ll be years of that approach etc. He was such an ahole.
Once the TM says “eh Veronica do you have a moment?” You know what’s up next…🙄😂😂😂
This proves they always operate at a staffing deficit. Burns me
If she hasn't proven herself already then they shouldn't ask her to step into the role for free.
I was at a company for 8 1/2 years as the solo IT guy. I did Director level Work. I want to ask him for the title of IT Director, with no extra pay, they declined. I made it clear that I wasn’t seeking any extra pay or perks, I just wanted the title because they were selling the company and I needed to have my résumé up after I was gone. They Lied about wanting to give me the title and dragged it out for about two months and then I finally quit.
😂😂😂 I've been in this exact situation and I'll say what I said back then “ absolutely not!” Such a manipulative tactic and there should be laws against this type of sinister behavior.
Oh oh this is on par with you’re training your new manager! 🤪
Btw sorry about you not getting the position. So and So’s kid just graduated from university and needed a position to pay off their student debt. But we are keeping an ey e out for your next opportunity. Meanwhile you will get to train them since you know the job!🤪
This happened to me. After the acting period was over, interviews were taken. I got selected too. But then my salary wasn't increased. Just. Just the title changed. And load of work of course.
I luv Veronika's videos! 😅😆❤
I thought they wanted her to do it for free while they interviewed other candidates for the position.
That’s exactly what they do
That's my girl...tell Veronica ❤😊
Not only are you saving lives, you deserve an award for educating workers on the fact that most company interactions are premeditated, fully researched, and calculated moves to advance the company/organization agenda, whether it helps the employee or not. And as shown here, the system is set up to use free skilled labor for months - even years - on the basis of a lie. A lie that will be denied, although at that point it would be too late.
Thank you so much!
My future in the workplace will be absolutely different and I may actually have a chance at a position with pay and benefits that I actually want.
That company is a sinking ship!
I enjoy these clips so much!
Veronika is my role model and the singular voice of reason in the room. 😂
where i used to work, anyone on acting managerial roles were automatically allowed to claim the extra allowance relevant.
Veronica is the man!😂
The problem with declining acting managerial role is they would put some one who is below you in pay grade and and experience in that position and he will be bossing you.
I love these! 😂 the fact she offered you the “acting” role in the first place already means your were fit
Friend in another job she had brief higher rolls and she got the pay for it. But since it was temp once it was over they pay went back to normal.
I mean heck at least she got the money even temporarily, they were asses to not promote her but at least wise enough to not completely screw the pooch.
@@eonaon6914 yes but also they refused to give her the higher job she should have got. Literally best worker and didn't give a rats ass.
Usually the person does not get the job lol it’s almost always a scam .
Lol. I tried to establish boundaries like you do and ended up getting a warning for something else, a meaningless little thing that didn’t really warrant a warning.
Retaliation. Outrageous.
I like those answers from Veronica... Wish I could have said such 🤣🤭
The importance of asking questions and reading between the lines. Thumbs up to Veronica.
OKAY!!!!! Yasssss Veronica 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
"Nah, I'm good."
Omg I hate when they say “ does that make sense.” NO MF it doesn’t make sense!! 😂😂😂
Managerial work, the job your doing now, AAAAND the managerial RESPONSIBILITIES AND ACCOUNTABILITY
😂Veronica is brutal!
I love Veronica's stand on everything, though the biggest take is the comments here - wow, employees get screwed over so many ways it's almost become the norm!
Being that she cited managerial style work, she had a leg to stand on, otherwise it would have been an opportunity to grow.
she is a BOSS!!
Veronica is the undercover boss of the HR department.
Yep! Did the managers job for 3 different managers.
I had to so they didn't screw up my job. 😂
i can not get enough of veronica
Veronika for the WIN
What’s with these companies and trying to use you for free? 😩
As I like to say: "We used to have slaves, soon we will have robots, but for now we have YOU". I say this to students, speaking for potential employers. I think they are all amazed and outraged that we want wages AT ALL!
They did this to me. And then they gave the job to somebody else. I couldn't quit because it was a very small industry and nowhere to go...some years later the guy who made the decision said he made a mistake and should have taken me, but that was small consolation.
Later, when I became a department head, over half of my guys told me I was the best manager they ever had. And when I eventually quit my job (by now in a different company) and retired because they pissed me off so much, half of my guys kept in touch with me for years afterward which was pretty nice I thought.
Facts 😂😂😂 sometimes you got to sit it out when it’s not meant to make you look no better and your not being paid.
I had this happen to me.
Worked for 5 years at a job. Had one of the best departments in the region. While doing my own job, would go out into the store and fix things, outworked people in their own departments, did janitorial jobs, helped customers, and so on.
A manager came to me and asked if I wanted to be an assistant manager. I asked what that required, and they said staying longer hours and having more responsibilities. I asked if there was a pay raise involved. No. I asked if I would be getting paid for the extra hours. No. I was expected to clock out as normal, then keep working for free.
The minute he said 'for free' I couldn't help it, and laughed in his face, which he didn't appear to appreciate. I then asked him why would I ever do something like that if there's no benefit for me in it? He glared for a bit, then walked away.
Later that year, they played some real dirty games and fired me, claiming all sorts of stuff. The first thing they called was proven fake easily, and the second, and the third. But they kept coming up with stuff until I just gave up and let them do what they wanted.
Them: We'd like to offer you an acting manager role.
Me: Ok. How will this work?
Them: As you know, our current manager is leaving. You'd be taking over managerial duties temporarily (they don't tell you this, but you'd be doing your job AND the managerial job). If you perform well, you'll potentially be promoted.
Me: Ok. Will I get the manager's pay?
Them: No. As this is a 90 day trial period to see if you can handle the position, we will not be paying you more until the 90 days are up AND you earn the promotion.
Me: So, let me see if I understand what's going on here. Our manager is leaving and you want me to do 2 jobs while being paid for only ONE. Not only that, I'd be working my butt off doing two jobs with no pay increase for a promotion that'll likely never happen. If I perform well, I'll obviously not get the promotion. If I do perform well, there's no guarantee I'll be promoted because you can find another reason to not promote me because you said that I'll "potentially" be promoted if I perform well.
Them: Well, it's not going to look good on you if you don't accept this.
Me: Gaslighting? That just means you know that I'm right. This isn't a 2 for 1 deal. I get paid to do my job, and my job alone. If you want me to do more, you need to pay me more.
Them: I'm not paying you extra for doing extra. Either you accept your new responsibilities, or you'll be subject to disciplinary action.
Me: Disciplinary action? What are you going to do? Write me up? Tf is that going to accomplish? Are you going to fire me? Nobody wants to work anymore, we have had hiring signs up for the last 6 months with NO new hires. You're not going to fire me for denying a scam promotion. You need me more than I need you. If I lost my job today, I can go down the street and have another job in 20 minutes. I'm not job-scared.
Them: You're right. If you leave, we'll be more short-handed than we already are. Because you've already proven yourself over the years you've worked here, we'll be promoting you to manager with no acting title. And, you get the previous manager's pay.
Veronika is ON POINT... ALL DAY, EVERY DAY!!
This is spot on.
In a place like this,
The 90 days is to give them time to find and hire a manager from a totally unrelated field (say, you do customer service for an insurance company,
and they were an Amazon warehouse manager)
The person has a degree and six sigma training, but their skills barely translate inte a rusl day to day, because they know almost nothing about the actual work being done in this field...
And then after having downte work successfully for 90 days and being passed up, they want you to train that person for free while also continuing to do your own daily work.
Which is maddening,
because if you did the job well enough to train someone on it, why were you not good enough to be promoted to it?
I've been watching Veronika's dialogs and they are superb! Kudos and keep'em coming; thank you.
I know someone who is exactly in this position right now. They are doing managerial duties for no extra pay with a promise of promotion. I keep telling them they are being used, but they don't want to listen. They are very competitive.... It is funny how competitive people make the best slaves.
I’m now an old lady retired from the crap force, but man I love watching this young woman. I wish I could have been like that.
You know that Veronica ain’t getting that manager’s job from this place.
Veronika is a savage. Jesus. 😊