A Quick First Look At KDE Plasma 6
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- KDE just released Plasma 6, a major milestone in the evolution of the Linux desktop. Today, I'm going to take a quick first look of Plasma 6 inside a virtual machine of KDE Neon.
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KDE looks sick now, can't wait for windows 12 to copy it ☺️☺️
I was just about to say the same, and then I saw your comment🤣😂
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Doesn't it look like windows 11?
@@msx94it looks like peak of DE design
"KDE is now sick"
So you mean it doesn't work very well then?
And I stopped painting little faces around words that I write when I got to age seven and first learned joined-up writing. Just saying.
I've been using KDE since it was first available. I'm really impressed with what they've done with Plasma 6.
2008 for me.
Plasma 6 looks so great, thanks for the showcase
DT very productive this year! Congrats!
i think linux makes people more productive
congrats to the kde team!
I was using plasma 5 as my reintroduction to Linux a while back. It serves as a GREAT bridge for windows>linux users, at least it did for me. Allowed me to reimmerse into the linux ecosystem without the shellshock of something entirely different.
Qtile is what I generally use but once they get Plasma 6 on arch, I'll likely install it & see how that goes
Now if only Arch would push Plasma 6...
you read my mind 😅
its in the testing repos,
The testing repos are working fine for me
Won't be long. Its in testing
I'm waiting
Gotta say you are my source for Linux since the early years of ubuntu😊
You may have forgotten the most important new feature (in my opinion): the overview feature. It looks and feel much like the Gnome overview, where you can manage all open workspaces and windows. I forgot the shortcut, but on KDE Neon it was enough to push the mouse arrow to the upper left corner.
so its something that you can do in plasma 5....but its a new feature in plasma 6?
@@bigmikeobama5314No, it's much better and much more versatile. It received quite a lot of love. It actually feels much like Gnome, which it didn't in Plasma 5. And it is enabled by default now. Because of the overview I will go back to KDE. It was actually the only thing that made me stay with Gnome during the past year or so.
@@bigmikeobama5314 I believe it's been redesigned for plasma 6
@@bigmikeobama5314It was completely overhauled and improved in Plasma 6, especially the track pad gestures.
@@bigmikeobama5314 in Plasma 5 it was unstable and didn’t work or look nearly as good at the one on Plasma 5
KDE Plasma 6 is very cool DE! 😍🥰
I'm running Arch with KDE 6. So damn good. Buttery smooth!
Any screen tearing / random display glitching issues?
@@Milena-ix5mq Nope. None at all. But, I don't have Nvidia on my computer. Integrated Intel graphics.
@@UncleSpellbinder cool, because I'm also using integrated Intel graphics, but Wayland seems to make my screen tear violently when the mouse cursor goes to a certain area. Tried with Gnome, Cinnamon, Kde.. re-installed the entire distro a few times - nothing helped. But, when I rolled back to Kubuntu 22.04, the problem was gone. It uses Plasma 5 and X11, so I suppose the issue comes from Wayland.
So, I've asked you that question, just to gather some info on how is the situation with other users, if the problem is considered common or rather personal 😄
I'm one of those 'single click' lovers, super convenient once one gets used to using it 🙂
You can even have the Desktop Cube in Plasma 6 too. 🥰
The floating panel behavior is actually not new. You could configure it that way on Plasma 5, but it was off by default. Plasma 6 turns it on by default out of the box.
It was better when it was off by default!
Wow, this distro is amazing
KDE bought me into Linux. What an amazing DE and a distro ( or non distro lol ).
2:27 The “Mission Control”-like overview mode that was experimental since 5.24 is now the default behavior when you move the cursor to the top left corner, which is why they only have one workspace by default - you can literally drag a window onto a “+” and it’ll automatically make a new workspace on the fly.
I love many of the new changes, I can not get wayland to work on my main PC tho (probably has something to do with my nvidia gpu).
However I also have a laptop with AMD GPU and CPU, and most things run extremely smooth, gestures have been improved, virtual desktop management now looks and feels better (but runs on 30fps on my main PC and has some slight micro-laags depending on the apps I have opened on my laptop).
The smooth scrolling has been massively improved, smooth scrolling used to feel sluggish often, but now feels fluid and still responsive
I think overall Plasma 6 has many quality-of-life improvements that just make a lot of sense.
used it for about a month and its awesome. for low end computers, turn off all desktop effects and animation speed to instant and this will become as snappy and fast as xfce.
Can’t wait for distros coming with Plasma6
Btw. "patak" means "stream" in hungarian.
Uh, it means many different things in many different languages.
it means "Friday" in some Slavic languages. As "Pet" is Five
Stream in Gulyas language, eh? Cool!
@@Wren1 It was made by Kovács Áron (aronkvh), who is hungarian
@@dejangegicpat means hook in kurdish
Panja means 50
Penj means 5
Panja means finger
Not sure if you already plan on it but it would be great if you could cover the dotfiles CLI tool chezmoi. Just getting into dotfile management and I loved your video on using a git bare repo. Would like to hear your thoughts and how the two approaches compare.
I use single cluck since KDE 4
try pressing the windows key and typing "=" in the application launcher.. ..you can then type simple calculations like. "=(10/2)+3"... ..it's a plasma5 thing, I bet it still works in 6. really useful!
You don't have to press type "=", just "(10/2)+3" works as well
@@tamoozbr wow even easier. thanks for the tip
@@Fozz84 no problem
I first used plasma when it was plasma 3 lol man it feels like time to try it out again
Great review! I wish you had shown the new overview mode (super + w)
Just because of this feature, I'll drop GNOME.
I love KDE Plasma!!!
Zooming in and out was available in Plasma 5.xx too. And Kate has had git integration for some time now.
Do we have a remote desktop option for Wayland yet? Have they fixed spectacles buggy multi mon support and made it look better than the last 5.27 release?
the left pannel in settings looks a bit better and more pronounced in dark theme. Looks like they re-worked there color scheme and also added transparency in the application menu by default.
Plasma is my favorite floating window DE, but I am too stuck on tiling WMs (Hyprland ftw) to ever make a switch. Once you get accustomed to a tiling WM and it becomes part of your workflow, it becomes equally difficult as it is for someone to switch to a tiler when they are used to a floating WM.
when opensuse going to update with kde 6? Any info
DT certainly loves his "secure and complicated password" running gag doesn't he? 😂
I need to get on this
There are some issues when you minimize Dolphin for example, it hides de left panel. 2 weeks ago I wasn't able to restart or shutdown ( that part was fixed). Overall it still is the best Plasma distro, at least for me.
Xfce4 also has that zooming feature Super + mouse wheel
i use it at arch linux garuda and i love it so much
I've switched from XMonad to plasma and after setting the eyecandy off and maximizing all the windows automatically it really suits me.
"only gave it 6 gigs of ram" I remember when I was running KDE 3 off of 90 Meg, geeze
I love how they have xterm built into the terminal, how do they do that, I want to replicate that across all my linux terminals?
Virtual desktop does it take some ram? If so it could reduce some unused ram use.
Plasma 6 looks like it's almost good enough for me to consider dropping Cosmic-Gnome to try it. I tried Plasma 5 several times but couldn't jive with it. Plasma 6 seems like an intuitive and needed upgrade.
Sidenote - After Visual Studio Code had some strange update that messed up yaml file formatting I had to find an alternative - and started using Kate as IDE. Now I have used Kate for a loooong time already, but basically as a text editor, never really using it as an IDE. And I was pleasantly surprised at just how many features is available and my workflow did not get disrupted too much. The language server integration need some work, it would be nice to have some of the VS Code plugins that got used to - but Kate I found was definitely faster. Some polish and plugins and Kate could be a primary IDE.
Im using fedora 40 , so far so good 👍
What's the point of the floating panel aside from making the icons easier to overshoot?
Aesthetics, really
@@mochafennecicons don't overshoot. They made the panel so that if you click in the padding space, you still click the corresponding icon.
Been gone from Linux for some years but love KDE what's the difference between Wayland and x11
Looks like KDE lol love the wallpaper though
I stuck with Fedora Kinoite 39 but i guess i won't have to wait too long for the 40 release. Its an immutable Linux Distro.
The panel going from floating to fixed when a window is against it is pretty cool. I still hate the floating panel though--it destroys any potential mouse gestures/shortcuts. With a traditional panel, you can quickly and easily move the mouse down-left and click without even thinking to open the menu, but with a floating panel you'll end up clicking empty space the desktop and nothing will happen.
This is KDE though, I'm sure they put an option in there to go back to the old fixed panel.
On KDE if you click in the empty space below the floating panel it will count as clicking on the widget. They thought of this!
Maybe I didn't click in just the right place, I think I clicked closer to the left of the button or the corner itself, but it didn't seem to work when I tried it in a virtual machine of KDE Neon. I'll have to give it another try. If it really does, that truly be the kind of attention to detail that I would *only* expect from the guys at the KDE team.
Update: I just double-checked this in a VM. This is, in fact, a non-issue. The KDE guys have thought this through, and have implemented this feature in full instead of how most others would do by half-assing it and then patching the "fixed" behavior in later. The problem stems from VirtualBox not working in my distribution, leaving me with GNOME Boxes which does not display the screen/resolution at the proper size, and currently having my mouse connected to my Steam Deck, but yes... fantastic job to the KDE guys. I just need to get back off of Fedora and back onto Debian or something, these bugs are ridiculous... I chose to experiment a bit, but the problems with virtualization on this distro are pretty bad.
Why is the text so hard to read in the VM? It must be the way KDE or DT's VM Client display's text?
After months using plasma 5, I tried plasma 6 a few days ago, and since then I've been using Gnome lol. Never going back again
Why
@@kernelpaniic They solved pretty much nothing. Breeze still looks like absolute crap, it still has lots of bugs everywhere, it's still inconsistent, they didn't implement dynamic virtual desktops, the ux is still pretty bad, and I just can't get the workflow and desktop layout I want because most widgets are mediocre.
I'm not trying to be a hater, I want plasma to improve because they offer stuff that gnome doesn't, but plasma devs don't really care about ui/ux, they only care about features and customization
Anyone know when 6 will be available in the Arch repos?
Sometimes I think it would be cool if KDE had the clear glass window theme again. When I tried Suse Linux, before it became OpenSuse, there were some very cool non flat themes :)
me too, using KDE since KDE 2 and still missing the Apple OS X Themen called baghira..many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
There are a billion themes you can install directly in the settings. Including clear glass windows.
When will arch get this update? 🥺
The one thing Plasma 6 does that totally breaks my workflow, is the new Overview. If i set my workspaces into two rows so they are displayed in 4 corners (Like how Mac does it) The overview stops showing you the virtual desktops at the top. I'm not sure if this is intentional or if it's a bug. But it totally breaks my workflow. This issue makes overview mostly useless for me. Also i'm probably in the minority in this, but i don't like the new Side-Bar only settings view. I actually like the Icon view, and the nested settings. I'm probably in a minority on that one. But it's what i like. Because of these two issues, i don't see Plasma 6 as an improvement over Plasma 5. At least not in terms of user experience. Obviously, the backend stuff is all better. But the UX i think got worse. Just my opinion.
Looks the same as the previous version. That start menu can use more customization options.
I tried out, KDE neon plasma 6 the Shutdown and restart didn’t work at all when I used it on my laptop. I had to go back to Kubuntu .
Use ur mind
Yup, it's a known issue with users upgrading on KDE Neon that's now fixed. Before the fix you had to add some missing files to re-enable the shutdown/logout apps.
Never been a kde guy. I'm boring, I like Cinnamon. It's just a lot closer to windows 95, 98, and 2K, the last windows I used. I used to use tons of different WMs but Cinnamon just feels nostalgic to me? I guess.
which distro to use with kde for daily driver?
KDE Plasma is the best desktop environment for Linux!
But I hate the default floating panel!
Are you using virtual box to run this kde plasma 6?
How to tile properly on plasma 6?
Can you please tell me how to fix weird red squares in gui I absolutely hate it
KDE, Gnome , Deepin is indeed very nice desktops.
The problem comes when the apps look out of place so no matter how nice looking is the initial DE, you loose the "immersion"
That is the problem for me
You said there are backport ppa's available for Ubuntu - Does anyone have a recommendation or a link ?
Actually once Kubuntu 24.04 is out on Wednesday, I guess there will be a Plasma 6 backport very quickly...
Where is this background. I want to download this
I'm surprised that you didn't check for Windows tiling
It doesn't work well for me. The mouse cursor is not visible when I boot to the live environment.
if any KDE dev watching: Please Please if you lot can do it- Audio normalization/loudness equalization or whatever it is called: an option that smooths the difference between loud and quiet noises (I.E. in movies), please add this feature either by default or as a switchable option to your Kubuntu builds, its a nightmare to figure and set it on our own (us being newbies)! and even after lots of hassel and trial and error, its not satisfactory.
It's the biggest reason I keep switching back to windows.
easyeffects in the arch repo has autogain plugin.
I like the fact that they haven't radically changed things. KDE users will find this version easy to use.
Unless you have hidpi monitors. It's broken in V6.
@@df3yt What is broken? I would like to know.
@@theplaymakerno1 Scaling. Looks really crap and they removed DPI Font Scaling which actually works. Toolbars layouts resize poorly too. Cursor stutters
@@df3yt That's extremely sad that they removed the 'font' scaling option.
to me personally, KDE is settings options overload. I use it for a week max, before I just feel stressed about adjusting things how I like it. Everything is everywhere, and I never know where to look for what.
It probably uses more memory in a virtual machine than on real hardware. If doesn't have a gpu it will have to allocate graphics in ram instead of vram.
give me back the icons view of system settings , pleeeaaase
You can just set the panel to autohide. Being on Arch im sure I'll be running this soon. To be honest. I've been a KDE user for 20 years and love it but as for the "light on resources* thing is concerned that hasn't even been true with Plasma 5 lately. When Plasma 5 first came out it was amazingly light for what it was. Boot to beautiful in about 550 to 600meg. Lately no matter how much I strip away I can't get to a desktop under 900meg.
what is meg?
@@Dudik28 megabytes of RAM
I just kinda went back to kde. I loved kde3 but kde4 really soured me but not long ago I did give kde5 a try and its not bad. I have noticed for me i tend to sit about 1g of ram usage. guess when 6 rolls into arch ill see how much i use then.
The whole ram usage debate is so odd to me. The standard for ram has been 16gb for so many years now and we're coming up on 32gb being the new standard soon. Assuming you have a normal system, a DE using plus or minus 3 to 400meg literally doesn't matter. Ram is meant to be used.
@@uusfiyeyh Yeah I agree, I put 64gb in my newest build just for the fun of it. I never even get close to using it. But it's still fun to have and know that I can just leave things open if I want lol
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yeah, i just switched from Arch Hyprland, to Arch Plasma, Ironically, Chromium based browsers on AMDGPU don't seem to work with hardware acceleration, or only have partial support, for example, this video is playing perfectly fine, while ... playing a browser game like Forge of Empires is impossible, and that seems to be the case on all chromium based browsers in plasma 6 :-/ using the same flags, on the same system, logging in back to hy prland, everything works fine ... ??? puzzled
It won’t be ready until the fall because distros want to test it and customise it and KDE 6 will be shipped concurrently with Windows 24H2 and the next version of MacOS.
What distros can I use to install it? (Besides Neon itself)
Im using fedora 40 , so far it stable with some bugs may fixed in final release. Google it to find the link for latest beta 👍
KaOS
kubuntu
Arch Linux and Gentoo
Nicely done KDE, thx 4 the check👍, but what about windows alligment/management out of the box?
i forgot you are a distro channel
Does anyone know a good xlr interface that I can use with linux?
Plasma has a nice set of features but it looks like Windows 7 or so. Far behind the look and feel of Gnome and Gnome Apps. But as said some cool features.
I just never could get used to Gnome. Always went back to KDE. Tried the other interfaces and always went back to KDE. Tried various distros and eventually always went back to Kubuntu. Pity it seems with Kubuntu I will have to wait until October to get Plasma 6.
I read an intereview with the Kubuntu Maintainer. He tries to set up a ppa after the release of 24.04
How to get that transparency
The upgrade to Plasma 6 on my KDE neon was a disaster and even on neon 6 there were issues, but the latest update seems to have fixed it. Memory out of the box on neon was always higher compared to for instance Kubuntu. neon around 815Mb, Kubuntu around 680Mb. Still no full transparency option on Plasma 6 panel. I used Panel transparency button widget on neon 5 to have full transparent panel, but that doesn't work anymore on Plasma 6. I've noticed that Konsole still opens way to small. They need to fix that too. Otherwise KDE with Plasma 6 looks better than Plasma 5. Plus a lot of global themes that worked on Plasma 5, don't work anymore on Plasma 6.
If Fedora 40 ends up like people are saying it is, Plasma on Wayland will be your only choice. They wanna yank X11 out of Plasma first, then eventually, the entire distro. Looks like my Openbox and XFCE days are numbered...
does someone know how to play hdr movies with kodi?
How do you get Plasma 6?
Still not sure about Weyland, though.
No wey
おはようございます
Good Morning to you as well :D
Καλημέρα!
Plasma 6 to me is a more completed version of 5
But with a Wayland focus which I think is the real differentiation.
I am a long time, ardent KDE plasma user. When I get Plasma 6 (on Arch), the first thing I will do is change the wallpaper !
Yes rather ugly. But that's very personal...
I wish it was touch friendly
From my experience KDE is the most touch friendly Linux DE BY FAR, It's still not great compared to Windows, but KDE is (from my experience) the only desktop that is even usable with touch input only.
@@starsetknight You sure? I have to use Gnome because my Lenovo touch laptop only works reasonable with Gnome.
Disagreed!
@@70shahin I tried GNOME on an old Surface Pro, and I couldn't right click in the file manager, and the touch keyboard was awful. After installing a touch keyboard on KDE(technically a point to GNOME for having one pre-installed by default) it was completely usable, though the file manager was still weird, but again, usable.
How do I upgrade from 5.27 -> 6 on Kubuntu?
not sure if already in there, but i guess there should be a backports PPA; if you prefer an official way, you might wait for Kubuntu 24.10 release
@@penguin2137 As far as I have been able to find out there is currently no backport available, and none is planned before Kubuntu 24.4.
@@penguin2137 okay thanks. Yeah I'll just wait for the official release in the new Kubuntu version.
@@bertilowplasma 6 missed the boat to kubuntu 24.04, kubuntu 24.04 will be using plasma 5.27
Man, listening to you say "aesthetics" over and over again is funnier than Rick James on the old Chappelle show. Also, it is sooooooo cute how you don't tell the REAL reason you lost your pre-youtube job. But we in the deep state know.
Nobara already switched to 6.
"They're really defaulting to Wayland now."
Me with my Ryzen Nvidia laptop who's KDE desktop still shows a black screen on Wayland: 😭😭😭😭😭
👍
The visual differences between this and previous versions are minimal, which is pretty good considering KDE already has a visually appealing desktop environment. It seems the majority of the work was done in the background. All these latest KDE 6 videos are just content creators trying to please the Algorithm Gods.
I have always preferred KDE over Gnome.