Vivek is SUCH a good person. He's humble, articulate, VERY understanding of the opposing viewpoints from his own. He's just a fair person all around. I would love to see him run again next election!
I'm pretty sure Charlie will eventually get jealous of Vivek's education and articulate-ness, and Charlie, being a bit of a WS, will cut him loose. Just a matter of time.
@@ladro_magro5737 Go to Hillsdale college online they have a bunch of free courses in lectures by people who know what they are talking about if you want to educate yourself
@@ladro_magro5737In simple words, USA is not one whole tribe. It is group of 50 different tribes. Each tribe will send their representative to represent their tribe. Just because one of the tribes has more people doesn’t mean they can represent every other tribe.
She loves her country, yet she's more than willing to allow the Big Cities decide who will be the President, because screw the people who live in rural areas. Yep, quite the "patriot".
Yes an ironically ppl like her tend to be against big corporations, capitalism, want to support local, farmers markets, etc …but in this case you can’t empower rural lol. If that’s not irony I don’t know what is.
She kept saying " I love my country " & " I'm a patriot " but she doesn't like what the founding fathers created to keep the balance. Seems a little odd.....
She proves that she's not competent enough on a basic level to vote, which is the common thing to conclude from all these exchanges. These kids are completely ignorant of basic civics.
Mostly, they seem to be parroting the oversimplistic arguments of their liberal and socialist professors. In many cases, these young adults will grow out of such dumbed-down ideas.
@@timlemmon9712 voting requires way more thoughtfulness and intelligence than buying some booze and a pack of smokes. I’d say 25 just because by that time, most people have their first real jobs and they can finally see how much their voting affects their paycheck and can suffer the consequences of those decisions. I’d be in favor of exceptions for the military. But I think 18 is WAYYYY too young for this generation to be able to vote. They are still literal kids with no life experience
@@timlemmon9712currently people must still register for selective service ( the draft) at age 18. If the voting age were 21, then the Selective Service draft age would need to be raised to 21 also. Can't be "old enough to kill, but not for voting".
@@PROJECTAUTOGUN Yeah, I would. It appears to be typically these kinds of people as well that are twitchy and just a little too defensive, even at the sight of a leaf falling
What isn’t recognized is that the Federal Government was never supposed to be more powerful than the State Governments. Today people largely consider the states to be fairly weak and the Federal government to be the whole government. The Constitution specifically put a box around the Federal government which has been expanded because of a single weakness in the language of the Constitution. The is a list of Federal government powers which had a clause to allow for miscellaneous and unforeseen powers the Federal government might need. This clause is now a huge portion of the Federal government powers. Please, depower the Federal government and return the states to prominence.
I don't know why it's so difficult to understand. The system isn't perfect, but no one has been able to articulate a way to include Montana, Delaware, Vermont, Maine, etc, in the decision making process without the electoral college. All of life in America should not be run by the 5 largest cities with no power anywhere else.
She kept talking about the Republican party fixing the electoral college. But she has a big problem the Republican party did come into being till about 1850. About 80 years after the Constitution was written.
Have we forgotten that VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS has held the 2nd highest office for the past 3.7 years. So, what has she done to help this Nation during this period?
The girl asking the question is a broadcaster. What I mean is that all her thoughts are going out, and she is not able to have any thoughts come in. The question she is asking has been answered a couple of times, but she refuses to listen, because she is broadcasting the thoughts in her head.
Vivek argues on a critical thinking level. HE doesnt argue the point, he points to solutions to the problem. Cant wait to see him in the cabinet/office at some point. And regarding the question, the person doesn't understand what Kirk and Vivek are saying. Like at all.
Look at this chick, rolling her eyes and trying not to be hostile, but she can’t help but roll her eyes and be condescending. She apparently doesn’t even understand the electoral college, and this is an embarrassment for Americans that we don’t even understand the basic fundamentals of our constitutional government.
That chick is a dude. Face, arms, hands. Probably on estrogen. And how insufferably fidgety they are is the tell that there's something terribly wrong with them--far more than mere public-speaking anxiety.
Exactly and she has no interest in listening to Charlie or Vivek. It’s her way or the highway. That is the results of the indoctrination of the education system we have today and how arrogant these people are and think they know what’s best for the entire country when they have yet to step into the real world.
Its a dude my dude. aside from the arms, hand size, shoulders wider than hips, jaw shape, forehead... their tits always go off to the sides like that. this one's body language is very masculine in addition.
I think it is very sad that these guys have to teach, and educate college students on things I learned back in 3rd grade civics in the mid 1960's. Schools obviously no longer teach this, or American history and we are paying the price for that now. She wants her vote to count the same as everyone's but, if the electoral college were abolished, unless she lived in Ca, NY, or IL, her vote would not matter at all...not one bit. We are not a democracy and never have been by design, and for good reasons.
Yeah I used to be annoyed by the electoral college, but then I learned a little more about it, and I’m glad it’s the way it is. Small states have to be heard, and them having a powerful vote keeps big states from ruling the nation.
That makes no sense. Big cities already dominate elections within the state elections, so should we have the electoral college within states? It's just a crutch. All votes should be treated equally.
@@WyattTheGuyatt Well you're right that big cities tend to dominate their states, which is kind of a shame I guess. So states having a more even distribution of power isn't perfect, but its better than not having it. All regions should be treated equally imo. If a million people in a city vote against something that a thousand farmers in some rural area care about, they are screwed every time. It may also hurt the city people if they are voting against something they don't know a lot about. Their food (or the cost of it) may be at risk. The people in each region are the ones to be most trusted with doing what is right in their area.) Think about a pack of wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. That's why we have a constitutional republic, and not merely a pure democracy. Meh, we probably both need to read up on this more. Peace out
@@mrhobs With regards to your farmer scenario, what if we made a system where the 1000 farmers were constantly able to vote against something that the million people in the city care about? I contend that the electoral college creates that system now. The sheep and wolves thing is always a problem no matter in any system. However, what you are saying is that if there are two sheep and one wolf, the wolf should decide what's for dinner. If we follow the analogy, the best system should prevent the victor from having any power over what's for dinner. This is already true because of our constitutional protections for individual freedoms, our separation of powers, and our checks and balances. These all should prevent any one faction from being able to infringe on people's rights (unless the faction is insanely large, like amending the constitution large). So what I would ask is, why do we need the electoral college then? The safeguards are present, just leave it to the people. It's how we do it in the states already, as I mentioned before.
@@WyattTheGuyatt I don't disagree with the bulk of that. For the first part, I would say even with the electoral college in place, the populated places still get what they vote for more often than not. The larger states still have some level of dominance. But again, I'd have to study a little more before I feel passionate enough to debate much more about it. 🤷♂ I just like the idea that ALL the states are kind of forced to work together. Reading up on the UN might give us more to think about. I've stayed up too late already though, goodnight! 😅
@@mrhobs I don't disagree that the larger states have some level of dominance, but it leaves lots of voters unheard. 6 million republicans voted for Donald Trump in California in 2020, but their votes don't matter under the current system. That just seems unfair to me. In fact, the desires of the people in California in general don't matter. Presidential candidates just campaign in swing states, and only cater to their electorates, but a voter in Wyoming or a voter in Delaware ought to feel just as heard as one in Georgia or Wisconsin. I just don't think the electoral college should force the states to work together. It isn't a chamber like the House or Senate. It is just the way we choose the executive, so why not just leave it straight up to the people themselves? Anyways, I appreciate your thoughtful engagement, and I hope you sleep well. I think I came in a bit heated there, so I apologize for that.
The answer is : If CA and NY can determine the outcome of Federal elections due to their large number of voters, then we here in Nevada ( and all other small States ) will just quit the Union ( we have a right to leaving, because the Electoral College and our 2 Senators are part of the Constitution that we signed on to ), so that we can vote for the leadership we want.
Absolutely! This person should instead be happy that people in middle America are represented by the electoral College and have a say in Presidential elections. We are called the United States for a reason. 🇺🇸
Doubt it. I can't imagine any states leaving the union regardless of outcomes. Basically they would grit and bear it due to the fact that the responsibilities and consequences with becoming a new nation is hard to overcome in modern times. And you'd either get a very spread out new nation or several different countries that now have to figure out their own foreign policy and trade. This would all have to deal with the ones who stayed with the original union likely bullying and restricting the seceded states access to major ports and resources.
@@mrnekomaneki01it happened once already, why not again with really good reason? I do not think at least half the nation would be cool with never winning any election again. Half the country wound make a new America.
@@mrnekomaneki01 it happened once already, why not again? I do not think at least half the nation would be cool with barely ever winning any election again. Half the country wound make a new America.
That agitated girl wasn't listening to anything Charlie and Vivek were saying. She just wanted to hear them agree with her, otherwise, all her brain was registering while they were speaking was white noise.
The founding fathers were not a monolith. They disagreed on a variety of subjects. Aside from that, just because they believed in something doesn't make it correct. A large number of them believed women should not be able to vote. They were people just like us and were wrong just as we can be. The electoral college as an institution should not exist because it is tyranny of the minority.
Thank you! Finally someone points out "the tyranny of the majority." Someone who actually read the Federalist Papers. That was one of the biggest issues the Founding Fathers debated. I think the Electoral College could (and should) be modified to work better, but it is hugely important that each STATE maintains its own sovereignty. Stop "the tyranny of the majority."
Tyranny of the majority, where the states with the highest population can essentially dictate the policies of lower population states like Wyoming, Nebraska, Nevada etc.
@@dbf1dware The tyranny of the majority is stopped by the protections of the constitution. We don't need to use it to justify subverting the will of the people. The electoral college is tyranny of the minority.
"Why dose a person's vote in Wyoming be more important than mine? Why should your vote be more important than a person in Wyoming, or anywhere else? The world doesn't revolve around you.
The electoral college actually facilitates everyone's vote having weight. Without it, a handful of the same large states (and their large cities) would determine the vote, and the smaller states and rural cities might as well make a paper airplane out of their ballot. The result would be candidates not having to care at all about those states. The founding fathers were intelligent and had incredible foresight regarding this and other matters. God bless America!
This is what you get AFTER the education system dumbed down and or eliminated government classes! I’m 72 years old and remember being taught government structure in elementary school! Also, looks like some professors have them wired up about the electoral college…….by the way, I’m from Texas too!! lol
What people NEVER realize is that the Electoral College is a state by state vote. Each STATE is voting for what they want. And the entire point of small states having 3 EC Votes is that they have 3 representatives, because otherwise they have basically no say in the national stage. It's all very simple. And EVERY SINGLE STATE has 2 Senators, and at the least 1 Representative. These people are not thinking.
The president is the executive for the PEOPLE of the country, not the states. As such, they should be elected by the people. The electoral college needs to be abolished.
@@WyattTheGuyattabsolutely not, we aren’t a democracy. “He’s not for the states” are you ignoring the states are the people? So you don’t care if smaller states get ignored on the national stage? Our system has worked for many years and you’re not going to change it, otherwise leave.
@@LukeAnderson101 We are a democracy. I don't think you know what that word means. We are not a pure democracy because we have protections for minority rights. Those protections are enshrined in the constitution, and are further safeguarded by the separation of powers and checks and balances of the different branches. We don't need the electoral college to protect minority rights. Smaller states are already ignored on the national stage. The only states candidates care about is swing states, large or small. That's patently unfair. Just because a system has been in place for a long time doesn't mean it shouldn't be removed. Senators were elected by state legislatures for a long time as well, but we changed it. We should try to make our country into a more perfect union, not arrogantly assume we already have reached perfection.
@@WyattTheGuyatt Jesus imagine thinking we are a democracy when it’s easily proven we are not lmao we are a constitutional republic. Do we elect representatives to represent us? Yes. We don’t vote through a majority, just stop making excuses and accept what we are. Thankfully your opinion is just that, an opinion. The electoral college isn’t going anywhere, it’s part of our great system to help out the little guys so they get a voice in a smaller state. Your ideas would just make their voices not heard and the presidents would never visit those places that don’t matter in election seasons, they would only care about the big cities. This is our system and it’s not going to change because some people don’t like it, there’s plenty of countries with democracy that you can go visit
Just watch her expressions while she's listening to them talk. They don't want discussion. They don't want dialogue. They have their mind already made up. Bless Charlie and Vivek for trying, but it's not a discussion worth having if they are talking to a brick wall.
The reason our system is better is because the electoral college protects lower population areas and their way of life and culture and economy from the higher population cities. Clusters of voters vote in their own self interest, not the interest of the voters 2000 miles away. We would be playing the hunger games within 100 years if we went straight to democracy.
That makes no sense. The electoral college ensures that presidential candidates only have to cater to swing states. Also, if your argument was true, we should also have the electoral college in state elections, as they do in Mississippi. The electoral college subverts the will of the people and should be abolished.
It is a difficult concept to grasp. I didn't even know about the electoral college until I became interested in politics. I didn't think it was fair, then I learned the reasoning behind it. The electoral college prevents the rise of radical ideology that might be voted in due to emotional voters.
Vivek is SUCH a good person. He's humble, articulate, VERY understanding of the opposing viewpoints from his own. He's just a fair person all around. I would love to see him run again next election!
He gets his point across without offending the other person, which, although I really like Charlie, he struggles with.
President or Vice president or secretary of state or leader of the house. 😊
@RocSandy Well when Charlie is being called racist and evil unjustly it can be challenging. 😊
@@oreally8605Exactly!
I'm pretty sure Charlie will eventually get jealous of Vivek's education and articulate-ness, and Charlie, being a bit of a WS, will cut him loose. Just a matter of time.
The electoral college stops tyranny.
It would be 5 cities controlling the white house lol
@@Str8Rippin93 not true.
do you mind explaining that? As a future first time voter, I would like to better understand the system.
@@ladro_magro5737 Go to Hillsdale college online they have a bunch of free courses in lectures by people who know what they are talking about if you want to educate yourself
@@ladro_magro5737In simple words, USA is not one whole tribe. It is group of 50 different tribes. Each tribe will send their representative to represent their tribe. Just because one of the tribes has more people doesn’t mean they can represent every other tribe.
That dude is clearly struggling with the meds he/she is taking. Sad to see.
I said the same thing she’s tweaking
Her body language suggests an angry feminist.
Just shy of chewing her ear… poor critter.
Just what I was thinking too 🤣
It’s very clear
These kids are so full of anger. Sad times
She loves her country, yet she's more than willing to allow the Big Cities decide who will be the President, because screw the people who live in rural areas. Yep, quite the "patriot".
That's a she?
Yes an ironically ppl like her tend to be against big corporations, capitalism, want to support local, farmers markets, etc …but in this case you can’t empower rural lol.
If that’s not irony I don’t know what is.
They get mad at electoral college yet if their nominee won the election with it they wouldnt be crying bout it.
Its all hypocrisy.
Yep
Right.
Interesting how they aren't made about Kamalamadingdong just being chosen by a small group of party elites, with no vote at all.
And yet, their party won the last presidential election.
Bless Vivek and Charlie for their patience!
That boy/girl is on some good shit
Yeah- it's a dude for sure. The body posture and those arms and jawline. We're doomed.
That's what I was thinking she ( I'm assuming that's what she is). It looks like she's tweaking.
It’s just a dude on chemical castration serum
@mitchmaddock1468 I agree. Been there done that.....😊
Yea FFS STAND STILL
Wow, so cool to see Vivek doing what Charlie does! It’s not easy.
"I love our country"
Then how about learning a little something about how it functions.
She kept saying " I love my country " & " I'm a patriot " but she doesn't like what the founding fathers created to keep the balance. Seems a little odd.....
*he
Apparently, loving a country and understanding it are two different things. That girl is more interested in what she “believes” than what is correct.
That's a bro yo
@@Tomb-G19 yeah, you could be right. I was just listening before. Regardless the person wants to ask questions, but not receive answers. 🙄
She proves that she's not competent enough on a basic level to vote, which is the common thing to conclude from all these exchanges. These kids are completely ignorant of basic civics.
Homeboy seems to be having a reaction to the estrogen injections .
All that irreversible damage
Yea I noticed that. With these trans, you can always tell something is off… it’s not a reaction you have when you see an actual woman.
@@LaSombraaAlmost had me fooled for a sec. But that facial structure just gave it away lol.
methamphetamine
@@chefboyardee4674 the broad shoulders, arms, and the face gave it away for me.
Ramaswamy and Kirk are a great team.
I love their different approaches 🤍
They sure are! 😊
Ramaswamy doesn't sound very american
@@assumption5935 How so?
Damn straight 💯💯
"pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner."
That's what the girl needs to hear.
Brilliantly put thank you
Both of you guys were great!!! Wow!!
Some of these kids are so arrogant
And very ignorant
Mostly, they seem to be parroting the oversimplistic arguments of their liberal and socialist professors.
In many cases, these young adults will grow out of such dumbed-down ideas.
That's one angry dude!
Ya… doesn’t seem feminine to me.
@@cherylt-sun1528 She's on sumfin forsure
She’s on testosterone
@cherylt-sun1528 the voice was somewhat, the body said NO
Was just going to comment I couldn’t decide whether it’s a girl or man wanting to be a girl 😂
Raise the minimum voting age to 25 and require all voters to be taxpayers 👏🏻
THANK YOU !!!
I say 21. Just because that is now the Legal age to buy Alchohol and Cigarettes. But I'm all for raising the Age of Voters
Voting age was changed from age 21 due to the fact that 18 year olds were drafted during wartime. It was changed during the Vietnam War era.
@@timlemmon9712 voting requires way more thoughtfulness and intelligence than buying some booze and a pack of smokes. I’d say 25 just because by that time, most people have their first real jobs and they can finally see how much their voting affects their paycheck and can suffer the consequences of those decisions. I’d be in favor of exceptions for the military. But I think 18 is WAYYYY too young for this generation to be able to vote. They are still literal kids with no life experience
@@timlemmon9712currently people must still register for selective service ( the draft) at age 18. If the voting age were 21, then the Selective Service draft age would need to be raised to 21 also. Can't be "old enough to kill, but not for voting".
put the highbeams away
She’s not interested in your facts . She just wants to rant & demand you do what she wants . You don’t love the country . Read the constitution .
Vivek for President 2028❤.
Grown man going through female puberty in college. Let's listen to what sHE has to say. 😮
I think he/she was either very nervous or on something.
That boy needs a haircut and a bra.
I never thought I would be saying that.
@@stevenphillips6127
That boy needs a haircut and a training bra.
I never thought I would be saying that but here we are.
Not sure I saw the apple my guy, but I'll be honest and say I really don't know.
@@stevenphillips6127
That boy needs a haircut.
That is definitely a man
I wouldn’t say that lol
@@pancakemix25I would lol
Twink.
@@PROJECTAUTOGUN Yeah, I would.
It appears to be typically these kinds of people as well that are twitchy and just a little too defensive, even at the sight of a leaf falling
i cant see the adams apple?
Her jitteries be giving me anxiety. I hope she's gonna be okay.
Adderall abuse most likely, all these kids say they have ADHD and get scripts easily
@@regdel8859or she bought it off an actual ADD person. I hear Adderall is a pretty popular drug on campuses.
He** - LOTS of meds going on here.
Love Charlie and Vivek. They explain everything so these young kids can understand what a Republic constitution is.
Vivek is a charming man who is qualified for the future leader of America ❤
Why is she/he shaking? These narcissists cannot handle being told they're wrong.
She’s super tweaky - fidgety her mouth…
Charlie and Vivek both answered her question properly in two completely different ways and she still claims they didn’t answer it. She’s a dull blade.
She couldn’t even pay attention to the answers.
Her? 😂😂😂. That's a grown up man ffs.
I honestly can’t tell what it is. Pat? Chris? 🤷♀️
There's no "she" in this video, bro.
shes a he, watch her/his forced arm movements, the square face shape and his/her trying to stand like a girl but cant do it
What isn’t recognized is that the Federal Government was never supposed to be more powerful than the State Governments. Today people largely consider the states to be fairly weak and the Federal government to be the whole government. The Constitution specifically put a box around the Federal government which has been expanded because of a single weakness in the language of the Constitution. The is a list of Federal government powers which had a clause to allow for miscellaneous and unforeseen powers the Federal government might need. This clause is now a huge portion of the Federal government powers. Please, depower the Federal government and return the states to prominence.
I’m from Rhode Island WOOOOO
The girl from Texas keeps saying, “I love ❤️ my country 🇺🇸”. That’s wonderful considering she doesn’t understand it.
Not a girl.
@@RiRi-r4l 👀 only other option, "boy"!
Dude*
@@killerspyder1 Is that a dude?
@@RiRi-r4l I was so confused bro
She is tweaking, hard!!! The definition of geeked up
Yep
She or he?
@@madride858585 I can't tell anymore these days!!
Accurate!
We should have to pass a history test before we can vote!
And an IQ test!
What about a literacy test? Oh wait...
That woman really hates Wyoming
Man?
It's sad that he needs this level of security. Just having differing viewpoints shouldn't be this dangerous.
Any farmer's vote should be worth as much as 40 votes from any HR rep in the country.
We logistically can't do that, so electoral college.
All people should have equal voting power.
@@WyattTheGuyatt we already don't do that. For good reason, too.
@@cleanmikeandtheboys3165 Why? Give me this good reason?
Chill with the Adderall..
The way Charlie and Vivek can stay cool while talking to people who keep repeating wrong points is crazy
It's a skill. 😊
Maybe if she wasn’t so angry she could understand why the founding fathers drafted the constitution the way they did. Listening is power also.
I don't know why it's so difficult to understand. The system isn't perfect, but no one has been able to articulate a way to include Montana, Delaware, Vermont, Maine, etc, in the decision making process without the electoral college. All of life in America should not be run by the 5 largest cities with no power anywhere else.
She. Just. Wouldn't. Listen. No matter how they tried to explain it, she already had her mind made up.
Yeah, Vivek finally said "I know Im not going to change your mind"
At that point, its a pointless exercise. She wasnt going to be moved off her point.
He
She kept talking about the Republican party fixing the electoral college. But she has a big problem the Republican party did come into being till about 1850. About 80 years after the Constitution was written.
She/he was too high on drugs to understand anything.
Have we forgotten that VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS has held the 2nd highest office for the past 3.7 years. So, what has she done to help this Nation during this period?
Nada. 😊
All I can think of is, she’s lied to all of us for 4 years about Joe Biden’s dementia, so how can anybody vote for her. She lies about everything.
Bringing joy and being a brat coconut queen ✨💅
She helped illegal immigrants from other countries invade our southern border and then caused havoc to our cities. 😂
Got rich
The girl asking the question is a broadcaster. What I mean is that all her thoughts are going out, and she is not able to have any thoughts come in. The question she is asking has been answered a couple of times, but she refuses to listen, because she is broadcasting the thoughts in her head.
Not a girl, but agree otherwise!
They are just so ignorant it’s embarrassing. They’ve explained it perfectly. She just refuses to accept the answer. She sounds like a bratty child.
Thank you charlie for all you do
She can’t stand still
lol i thought that was a dude.
She’s tweaking on something
I think that was a dude. His stance was more like how a guy would stand and he kept picking at his crotch area.
It’s a he-she!
nah thats a he bro
Vivek argues on a critical thinking level. HE doesnt argue the point, he points to solutions to the problem. Cant wait to see him in the cabinet/office at some point. And regarding the question, the person doesn't understand what Kirk and Vivek are saying. Like at all.
That split screen was tough to watch. She has no clue, but damn somebody get the ants out of her pants.
Something else in her pants she has tucked in pain
What is GREAT about these videos is we get to see REAL people debating REAL issues, something our Media simply does not do, thanks Charlie!
Can nobody stand still anymore? Everybody asking questions squirm and move around like they're on drugs or something.
Bc he is
This person seems to triggered every time she talks to Charlie. I am guessing that’s why she requested Vivek 😂
💯 lol 😅😅😅
She?
@@ryanbates362 😅😅😅😅
@@ryanbates362it’s so easy to tell that’s a man. Lol
She's a Socialist!
Because it keeps 51% from tyrannical rule.
Look at this chick, rolling her eyes and trying not to be hostile, but she can’t help but roll her eyes and be condescending. She apparently doesn’t even understand the electoral college, and this is an embarrassment for Americans that we don’t even understand the basic fundamentals of our constitutional government.
That chick is a dude. Face, arms, hands. Probably on estrogen. And how insufferably fidgety they are is the tell that there's something terribly wrong with them--far more than mere public-speaking anxiety.
Exactly and she has no interest in listening to Charlie or Vivek. It’s her way or the highway. That is the results of the indoctrination of the education system we have today and how arrogant these people are and think they know what’s best for the entire country when they have yet to step into the real world.
Well it's a guy so
Its a dude my dude. aside from the arms, hand size, shoulders wider than hips, jaw shape, forehead... their tits always go off to the sides like that. this one's body language is very masculine in addition.
The electoral college should be abolished. The president should be elected through the popular vote.
You can tell by her body language and mannerisms, she wasn't willing to listen and learn.
I think she's a plant. "Im a patriot." "One person one vote." Wasn't moved by any explanation...
I think it is very sad that these guys have to teach, and educate college students on things I learned back in 3rd grade civics in the mid 1960's. Schools obviously no longer teach this, or American history and we are paying the price for that now. She wants her vote to count the same as everyone's but, if the electoral college were abolished, unless she lived in Ca, NY, or IL, her vote would not matter at all...not one bit. We are not a democracy and never have been by design, and for good reasons.
“THATS A WOMAN?!?!?” -The Lorax
That person cannot stand still.
Those hands, she must do some activity that requires hand strength.
😂😂
First girl looked like she needed a fix
Or already had hers for the day.
Has something in her pants, plural rhymes with fix.
You mean his?
Lady? I don't see no lady?
I thought she was either nervous or had a ten shot espresso before……it was really weird to say the least
Go Charlie!! Go Vivek!! Go Trump!! Go America!!
Vivek and Charlie work extremely well together to make their points and unveil truth.
Yeah I used to be annoyed by the electoral college, but then I learned a little more about it, and I’m glad it’s the way it is. Small states have to be heard, and them having a powerful vote keeps big states from ruling the nation.
That makes no sense. Big cities already dominate elections within the state elections, so should we have the electoral college within states? It's just a crutch. All votes should be treated equally.
@@WyattTheGuyatt Well you're right that big cities tend to dominate their states, which is kind of a shame I guess. So states having a more even distribution of power isn't perfect, but its better than not having it.
All regions should be treated equally imo. If a million people in a city vote against something that a thousand farmers in some rural area care about, they are screwed every time. It may also hurt the city people if they are voting against something they don't know a lot about. Their food (or the cost of it) may be at risk. The people in each region are the ones to be most trusted with doing what is right in their area.)
Think about a pack of wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. That's why we have a constitutional republic, and not merely a pure democracy. Meh, we probably both need to read up on this more. Peace out
@@mrhobs With regards to your farmer scenario, what if we made a system where the 1000 farmers were constantly able to vote against something that the million people in the city care about? I contend that the electoral college creates that system now.
The sheep and wolves thing is always a problem no matter in any system. However, what you are saying is that if there are two sheep and one wolf, the wolf should decide what's for dinner. If we follow the analogy, the best system should prevent the victor from having any power over what's for dinner. This is already true because of our constitutional protections for individual freedoms, our separation of powers, and our checks and balances. These all should prevent any one faction from being able to infringe on people's rights (unless the faction is insanely large, like amending the constitution large). So what I would ask is, why do we need the electoral college then? The safeguards are present, just leave it to the people. It's how we do it in the states already, as I mentioned before.
@@WyattTheGuyatt I don't disagree with the bulk of that. For the first part, I would say even with the electoral college in place, the populated places still get what they vote for more often than not. The larger states still have some level of dominance. But again, I'd have to study a little more before I feel passionate enough to debate much more about it. 🤷♂ I just like the idea that ALL the states are kind of forced to work together.
Reading up on the UN might give us more to think about. I've stayed up too late already though, goodnight! 😅
@@mrhobs I don't disagree that the larger states have some level of dominance, but it leaves lots of voters unheard. 6 million republicans voted for Donald Trump in California in 2020, but their votes don't matter under the current system. That just seems unfair to me. In fact, the desires of the people in California in general don't matter. Presidential candidates just campaign in swing states, and only cater to their electorates, but a voter in Wyoming or a voter in Delaware ought to feel just as heard as one in Georgia or Wisconsin. I just don't think the electoral college should force the states to work together. It isn't a chamber like the House or Senate. It is just the way we choose the executive, so why not just leave it straight up to the people themselves? Anyways, I appreciate your thoughtful engagement, and I hope you sleep well. I think I came in a bit heated there, so I apologize for that.
I live in Wyoming. It isn’t a ghost state. Thanks Charlie.
Body language...folded arms...closed mind.
AND CANT BE STILL. It’s like she’s on drugs…
@@jesusislord2164agree
The answer is : If CA and NY can determine the outcome of Federal elections due to their large number of voters, then we here in Nevada ( and all other small States ) will just quit the Union ( we have a right to leaving, because the Electoral College and our 2 Senators are part of the Constitution that we signed on to ), so that we can vote for the leadership we want.
Facts people don’t understand this!
It’s 50 states every state matters
Absolutely! This person should instead be happy that people in middle America are represented by the electoral
College and have a say in Presidential elections. We are called the United States for a reason. 🇺🇸
Doubt it. I can't imagine any states leaving the union regardless of outcomes. Basically they would grit and bear it due to the fact that the responsibilities and consequences with becoming a new nation is hard to overcome in modern times. And you'd either get a very spread out new nation or several different countries that now have to figure out their own foreign policy and trade. This would all have to deal with the ones who stayed with the original union likely bullying and restricting the seceded states access to major ports and resources.
@@mrnekomaneki01it happened once already, why not again with really good reason? I do not think at least half the nation would be cool with never winning any election again. Half the country wound make a new America.
@@mrnekomaneki01 it happened once already, why not again? I do not think at least half the nation would be cool with barely ever winning any election again. Half the country wound make a new America.
She keeps asking the same question but refuses to understand the answer.
She (or he) wasn't listening whatsoever.
She's tweaking
"She"?
Adderall Abuse most likely
That dude was nice enough to stop by on his lunch break from the post office.
Thats a dude?
It didn’t state it’s preferred gender so I think it’s not safe to assume 😂
@@MayorMcheese12absolutely that’s a dude.
@MayorMcheese12 look at those shoulders
That agitated girl wasn't listening to anything Charlie and Vivek were saying. She just wanted to hear them agree with her, otherwise, all her brain was registering while they were speaking was white noise.
"girl" lol
Her question just proves she does not know what the united states is.
As someone who came from China, this kind of debate was a dream when I was young, even I might sound naive and stupid.
Our Founding Fathers were also concerned about tyranny of/by the majority and respecting minority rights
The founding fathers were not a monolith. They disagreed on a variety of subjects. Aside from that, just because they believed in something doesn't make it correct. A large number of them believed women should not be able to vote. They were people just like us and were wrong just as we can be. The electoral college as an institution should not exist because it is tyranny of the minority.
She’s EXACTLY why the EC is needed, basically saying her vote means more. The tyranny of the majority.
well she's a dude sooo...
Dude I’m just so glad I’m a man . Women are so damn emotional.
Thank you! Finally someone points out "the tyranny of the majority." Someone who actually read the Federalist Papers. That was one of the biggest issues the Founding Fathers debated. I think the Electoral College could (and should) be modified to work better, but it is hugely important that each STATE maintains its own sovereignty. Stop "the tyranny of the majority."
Tyranny of the majority, where the states with the highest population can essentially dictate the policies of lower population states like Wyoming, Nebraska, Nevada etc.
@@dbf1dware The tyranny of the majority is stopped by the protections of the constitution. We don't need to use it to justify subverting the will of the people. The electoral college is tyranny of the minority.
"Why dose a person's vote in Wyoming be more important than mine? Why should your vote be more important than a person in Wyoming, or anywhere else? The world doesn't revolve around you.
Her vote and a person in Wyoming's should be equal. That is the essence of democracy.
@@WyattTheGuyatt We're not a democracy. We're a constitutional republic.
The electoral college actually facilitates everyone's vote having weight. Without it, a handful of the same large states (and their large cities) would determine the vote, and the smaller states and rural cities might as well make a paper airplane out of their ballot. The result would be candidates not having to care at all about those states. The founding fathers were intelligent and had incredible foresight regarding this and other matters. God bless America!
yep...and then those candidates would have no reason to campaign in the smaller states or cities knowing that those votes would not matter.
Great team there👍👍.
If she truly loved this country she would know exactly why we need the electoral college.
Loving this country means getting rid of an institution that subverts the will of the people.
That girl has an Adam's Apple.
Something is up there
She’s prescribed Xanax I’ll bet my life she’s twitching these kids in colleges are all in a indoctrination camp
They also look like Scott Pilgrim
"girl"
There seems to be something under his belt also...
Thank goodness, that is young people in the US today!!! The rest of world is relieved....
This is what you get AFTER the education system dumbed down and or eliminated government classes! I’m 72 years old and remember being taught government structure in elementary school! Also, looks like some professors have them wired up about the electoral college…….by the way, I’m from Texas too!! lol
What people NEVER realize is that the Electoral College is a state by state vote. Each STATE is voting for what they want. And the entire point of small states having 3 EC Votes is that they have 3 representatives, because otherwise they have basically no say in the national stage.
It's all very simple. And EVERY SINGLE STATE has 2 Senators, and at the least 1 Representative. These people are not thinking.
The president is the executive for the PEOPLE of the country, not the states. As such, they should be elected by the people. The electoral college needs to be abolished.
@@WyattTheGuyattabsolutely not, we aren’t a democracy. “He’s not for the states” are you ignoring the states are the people? So you don’t care if smaller states get ignored on the national stage? Our system has worked for many years and you’re not going to change it, otherwise leave.
@@LukeAnderson101 We are a democracy. I don't think you know what that word means. We are not a pure democracy because we have protections for minority rights. Those protections are enshrined in the constitution, and are further safeguarded by the separation of powers and checks and balances of the different branches. We don't need the electoral college to protect minority rights.
Smaller states are already ignored on the national stage. The only states candidates care about is swing states, large or small. That's patently unfair.
Just because a system has been in place for a long time doesn't mean it shouldn't be removed. Senators were elected by state legislatures for a long time as well, but we changed it. We should try to make our country into a more perfect union, not arrogantly assume we already have reached perfection.
@@WyattTheGuyatt Jesus imagine thinking we are a democracy when it’s easily proven we are not lmao we are a constitutional republic. Do we elect representatives to represent us? Yes. We don’t vote through a majority, just stop making excuses and accept what we are. Thankfully your opinion is just that, an opinion. The electoral college isn’t going anywhere, it’s part of our great system to help out the little guys so they get a voice in a smaller state. Your ideas would just make their voices not heard and the presidents would never visit those places that don’t matter in election seasons, they would only care about the big cities. This is our system and it’s not going to change because some people don’t like it, there’s plenty of countries with democracy that you can go visit
@@WyattTheGuyatt🤦♀️
Sometimes, there just aren’t enough rocks.
Holy Shit. She was in my drama class
Was she always like this?
He
....sa dude?
Sorry you had to go through that
You mean he was in your drama class
PENNSYLVANIA FOR TRUMP 🙌🏼🇺🇸
That first girl's body language says it All.
"Girl"?
Its called Adderall abuse
This dude!
does she pee standing up?
You'd win that bet.
Mannerisms, posture, jawline, forearm musculature, bicep shape, slightly strained & up-pitched monotone voice. It all points one direction.
He/she does too much crank. 😂
Adderall abuse most likely, all these kids say they have ADHD and get scripts easily
This is what happens when civics aren't taught in schools.
It's all going according to plan!
Very educational 👍
Just watch her expressions while she's listening to them talk.
They don't want discussion. They don't want dialogue. They have their mind already made up.
Bless Charlie and Vivek for trying, but it's not a discussion worth having if they are talking to a brick wall.
She's a Patriot lol 😅 Sure you are mam lol
Look at her face and hands, She's hyped up on something.
It's called testosterone.
Adderall abuse most likely, all these kids say they have ADHD and get scripts easily
The reason our system is better is because the electoral college protects lower population areas and their way of life and culture and economy from the higher population cities. Clusters of voters vote in their own self interest, not the interest of the voters 2000 miles away. We would be playing the hunger games within 100 years if we went straight to democracy.
That makes no sense. The electoral college ensures that presidential candidates only have to cater to swing states. Also, if your argument was true, we should also have the electoral college in state elections, as they do in Mississippi. The electoral college subverts the will of the people and should be abolished.
I never really understood how the EC worked. But Vivek explained it perfectly. Now i get it. I agree an EC is fair.
i’m from wyoming; we do in fact exist and do deserve to have a say in the election
Lol. I bet she listens to Parker.
That’s a man
If individual States didn't have the ability to make their own decisions, I 100% would not live in America.
If that ever happens, I would want Jesus to just plain take me home!
They do. You don't need the electoral college for that.
"Should I call you mister?"
Pat.
Her argument is basically: “anything that doesn’t work in the favor of my party winning is unconstitutional”
It is a difficult concept to grasp. I didn't even know about the electoral college until I became interested in politics. I didn't think it was fair, then I learned the reasoning behind it. The electoral college prevents the rise of radical ideology that might be voted in due to emotional voters.
Hope Vivek is president one day. I trust him.