Overcome Tab Addition: Arc Browser 101
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Are you tired of too many tabs? There is a better way to manage information. Get ready for the Arc browser.
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00:00 Intro
00:59 Understanding Tabs
02:08 Introducing Arc - The Tab Solution
03:11 How does Arc work?
06:07 Three benefits of Arc
08:11 Why choose Arc
08:52 Arc’s notable features
11:20 Conclusion
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Wikipedia's recent implementation of the hover over preview on hyperlinks has been helpful in preventing tab bloat, glad to see Arc implementing a similar idea with their peek preview. I'm quite excited for this, I agree that this line of design will probably become the way of the future just going off the feel I got as you introduced each feature. As always, thanks for the video, cheers!
Yeah, the "Peek" is pretty great. I know I've seen it in other places prior to Arc and Wikipedia, but I can't recall where...
oh yeah, "recent". this feature is like six? seven? years old... time just goes brrrrr
@@pomidorka_ Someone I know recently told me this as well, lol; I suspect that one of my adblocker extensions might have been preventing that from displaying until the last few months/year. Very interesting.
A lot of these features are already in Vivaldi. Some of the creative stuff like a the screen shot tool and the canvas isn't but the productivity focused stuff is already part of Vivaldi (tab splitting, groups, pinned tabs, command pallet and shortcut keys, sidebars). Just wanted to highlight a browser that is on already on windows (and Linux) and has a full release in case you need these features now. Otherwise, Arc looks beautiful, kinda wish it wasn't Mac-exclusive.
Yes, this seems like a trimmed down version. If you want customization, speed and multi-platform sync, Vivaldi is the obvious choice. It can do anything.
Actually Vivaldi has a camera icon next to where you split the browser tabs to take screenshots
@@ServantStatusMinistries honestly, while that feature is great, its not as good as what Arc provides. Highlighting and cutting individual elements automatically is really useful
I used Vivaldi for months, the problem I had was performance, it's very slow compared to browsers like chrome and Firefox.
Microsoft Edge has a lot of these features as well. I've been happily using it since it was released a few years ago
49 in Firefox, 44 in Chrome, in two windows currently. That's only a medium amount here. It's usually a few more windows like that. And two tabs in Firefox are "Restore Session" tabs with at least two other windows of dozens of tabs in a list. The Tab Session Manager extension has been a lifesaver.
While arc has almost nothing NEW to offer, i think it wraps up all the best elements of the various browsers that exist currently and wrap them up in such a user friendly and accessible package. It’s well thought out, and everything seems super well integrated.
For example, Vivaldi does have so many of these features already, but it’s far too daunting for your average user to get a grasp on. I think arc is fairly straightforward and will be a good change that I can actually recommend people to use
This inspired me to organize my tabs on Edge Dev in to groups and archive the ones I'm not going to use immediately to favorite's as well as organizing my favorite's into labeled folders. Split screen is also a thing on there, quite a recent edition which I have been finding quite useful. Verticals tabs has been a thing in edge for a long time and is one of the main reasons I moved away from Chrome; vertical tabs are so much better than horizontal ones when you have a bunch open.
I make use of collections too. Split screen is great latest addition.
@@alpertor Especially when your uploading something and the tab going to sleep stops the upload.
how about using google products in edge (docs, gmail, etc)? is it as smooth/seamless UX as chrome?
@@sudratielma Provided your not limited by your hardware it should be just as fast as Chrome as both its Chromium based. When I switched it was faster than Chrome and more Memory efficient. I'm using the Dev build so certain feature like Split screen are not in the release build yet. Also looks like they have made the side bar like the Buttons where you can add Any web page for example you can link to Google Docs so its on the side bar there for quick access and this feature is available in the release candidate.
Yeah, Edge is pretty awesome, and currently my daily driver. But since microsoft is microsoft, I have been trying Vivaldi as it is more secure, and so far I am really impressed! It has all the features I like from Edge and much more, and the customization is already insane natively, but especially more with custom scripts made by the community that let you change anything.
im really digging the spaces. i use workona atm, but this looks like a slicker more intuitive version and its built in. very nice
Those are really cool features! With that said, I'm going to wait until Firefox implements some of them, because I want to support a browser that's not Chrome based.
There's Mozilla extension called tree style tab which manage the tab vertically
@@afisap6969 Oh, sweet! I'll give it a try. Thanks! :)
Sidebery is another extension that works well and has all the same features in the video
Firefox my guy. They should impliment this.
@@jackalhamster Cool, thanks!
@1:24 I use vertical tabs in edge, which have a few of Arc's features like pinned tabs and folders (called groups), so maybe doesn't count, but I have 132 tabs open in edge rn
6-12 tabs is a lot… oh boy. Hundreds, on each device, and in multiple browsers. Lots of little features look interesting here or just prettier than what I use now. To my shock, some of the big features remind me of Edge (I have to use it for work and I never thought I’d be impressed by a Microsoft browser).
Well along with Bing, maybe Edge will make a comeback
@@linkingyourthinking IS Bing making a comeback?? I’ve been trying to use privacy-focused tools for a while, I have no idea what is happening with big name engines or browsers!
@@linkingyourthinkingThe "New Bing" seems to be Edge exclusive, with the current AI hype, I'm sure that will bring some people back to the browser they thought was just good enough for downloading Chrome.
I was not impressed with Edge, it kept bugging me to use Microsoft services when I first opened it, I’m sure it’s a decent browser but I prefer Safari because it just leaves me alone most of the time
I use edge regularly and prefer it over every other browser. It's actually faster than Chrome, in my experience. In addition, I've been using vertical tabs and grouping tabs together as well as utilizing the tab-pinning feature in Edge for quite a while now. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot that Arc has that Edge doesn't already have. One new thing is the buttons but it's essentially bookmarks, which I've been really careful to curate over the past year or so.
Not too long ago, I had over 700 tabs open on my ipad. I always start mostly fresh every day on my computer, so that's fine. (I say mostly, because I keep a few pinned tabs open at all times, 1 is my music, and the rest may be different music, or information that I want to go back to the next day).
while i am mostly happy with firefox with my 22 tabs, i would like them to take up less ram. for instance, new rule - ''all tabs that don't have focus, in my case 21 of the 22, should be saved to disk and the memory freed''. if the disk is a ssd, as mine is, returning the tab to ram when it is brought back to focus shouldn't take too long.
Well you can just tell firefox to unload tabs after some time (default seems to be 10mins)
Edge will do this with idle tabs in the background. I think you just have to turn it on in the options. Chrome may also do it as well.
Most of these features are available on many Chromium-based browsers by default, Arc just "reskins" them and adds some interactions to them. What you failed to mention is tab snooze/archive which is aimed to solve the very problem you mentioned at the beginning of the video: tab hoarding. This is the only feature I'm excited about, otherwise, Edge, Vivaldi, Opera, Chrome all have pretty much the same stuff.
It's mentioned, you may have failed to see it though
There are lots of "Tab Suspender" extensions that automatically suspend, park, hibernate inactive tabs which helps save memory
@@rodzki8298 No, they optimize for memory but they don't let you "manage" tabs. Arc is the only browser AFAIK which comes with this by default. You can use Workona or OneTab but it's nice that they thought of proper tab management.
@@linkingyourthinking Sorry if I missed it, I went through the video 2-3 times to make sure but still missed it 🤷♂
Wow - came here from Kirby Fergeson's newsletter and was not expecting to be so interested! The idea is really, really good and the split screen feature adds a lot. I'm running Linux right now and have some Firefox extensions that approximate some of these features (mostly spaces), but I would love to see these features implemented more broadly, or use this on Windows one day. Chromium's security concerns give me pause but if these features don't filter out, I'd still be tempted.
Great video, as always, Nick... you've sparked my curiosity, as I hope to try this out in the future when available for Windows.
Some very cool ideas. Just want to mention that you get mark down link copying by default on Edge, which is the main reason it's my default browser, aside from vertical sidebar
I was reunited with my old laptop at my cousin's place. After some effort to restart it, found It had tabs older than my 8 yo nephew.
74. I was trying to make my browser do exactly this. I found a side bar extension that did exactly this and was trying to figure out how to keep a permanent history because the 3 month limit was very annoying. I also wanted it to default to fullscreen. This thing does everything I was looking for, now I have to wait until it becomes available on windows
On your website in chrome or edge, the subscription button has a div in front of it, it is difficult to click, it is possible if the person changes the view to mobile or if he clicks on the tip right on the top edge of the button, it is possible to solve adding 70 pixel margin in your footer or modifying the footer z-index to be behind the entry form
I usually don’t use more than 3 to 4 tabs at a time, and this has me very curious why there are people that would use 15, 20, or 30 tabs. Are you guys doing research or something? Is there a reason is it better than bookmarks?
I've got the opposite issue. I used to work on a very old and very slow pc so I gained the habit of closing every tab before opening a new one now I need to reopen every tab once I need them later. Also due to our photovoltaic system we often get quick power outages which shut down my pc and close all the tabs at the same time.
Currently about 131 Tabs. I am in the process of extracting the desired information out of the tab and than disposing it. Takes a while, to say at least. It is nice to see that I am not the only one struggling with this kind of issue.
Totalement agree. I use it and like it but have 2 problem.
- i had a lot of bookmarks in folder to manage lotnof thinks.
Impossible to have so much in arc. In a way minimalism its great but i need those direct access link for teaching, manage company. Etc
- the other one the url bar. I dévelop and like seeing it, and maybee control it for not beeing on the wrong site.
If you ave some ideas or tips..
Thanks for your work and video
I usually open 3-5 tab at a time. I alway wonder every time I see people open more than 10 tabs. May be the auto close inactive tab is the great feature !
Firefox with sidebury, onetab and auto-discard. Set how many tabs you want live and using ram, collapsable groups, and integrated bookmarks. Everything is possible without changing browsers. At the top, I have the address bar butted to the top of the screen and nothing else showing.
How do you butt the address bar? Does this mean it doesn't show?
Or Vivaldi supports tabs in a side. Plus the extensions you've named. Works like a charm.
I don't have this issue but I appreciate the effort.
I really hope they keep a setting to have tabs on top. Though some may like that design, I find it taking up much more space than having the tabs up top.
Your channel is very useful. Every time you are helping me improve my living experience :)
wew, i'm going to try it lol. thanks for the information!
So you are telling me, instead of Tabs, all we needed were Spaces?
Them's fightin' words!
my biggest issue is bookmarks lol.. cant stand having more than 6 or 7 tabs open... i use multiple browsers for different things for this reason, one browser i use for education, another i use for entertainment.. im more than happy to add arc to this flow lol
Haha, let's see how it goes!
The UI/UX on it is SOOOO nice. I can't wait to try it!
Opera has had many if not all of these for years, but Arc does look neat. Will try it out once it's available on windows or Linux.
At 1:33 I had 19 tabs open, and two of them are the same link.. only four of them are not youtube tabs. AND the reason for that is because I exceeded my "watch later" queue on youtube so my solution is to open videos I want to watch later in a new tab, but I usually end up closing them all, or screenshotting them all, which obvisously leads to too many screenshots and I eventually never see the videos and I have to delete all those screenshots to save space on my computer.
This is literally my problem and what I'm doing to combat is bookmarking the whole browser, close it, then open new one.
I have 0 tabs open right now, if you can believe it. Somehow, I manage to close them all before I close any browsers-every time I use them. This means I have no open tabs until I start using the browsers, and end up with no open tabs afterwards. Just close the damn things in the first place as soon as you’re done using them, and you’ll never have to worry about them piling up! Why does no one else do this!?
Funny: just watching the intro and not knowing what arc even is I had exactly the solution in mind that arc actually implemented.
I guess that means it was a great intro!
I'll definitely be keeping my eye out for the Windows release for Arc.
All of these features are also already available in Edge. It's the primary reason I migrated from Chrome to MS Edge, Vertical Tabs, and Pinned tabs ftw.
holy crap, this is a godsend. i have literally thousands of tabs on my phone alone. the prospect of my browser shifting from a stressful hoard of my every whim to a legitimate & functional workspace is thrilling. i'm so excited to try this out, thanks for making this video!
Great to hear!
Now we know how Nick makes all his awesome graphics (not surprisingly in Figma)
So happy when I learned "just enough" to make Figma work. I was never good with Photoshop.
I tried it last month and it wasn’t for me, it adds a lot of clutter as you see the tabs and bookmarks all the time and you just get so mixed up between spaces, I also found it quite laggy. A lot of the features are redundant as other apps or even Mac OS do the same thing better and faster.
I have at least 100 tabs open on my chrome mobile app as of finding this video haha, thank you for the help :)
My main use of tabs is stupid browsers/sites which force a reload of the previous page I was on when I hit the back button. When you open a tab with the new page, closing the tab is instantaneous and the old page appears instantly, no reloading. If they fixed this I wouldn't open near as many tabs.
I really hope someone makes a chrome extension or google copies aspect of this, since creator doesn't plan for windows or android versions.
Great video...thanks.
I really like the hamburger menu for tabs and searchbar. Frees up a lot of valuable space and let's you have fullscreen websites with full functionality.
I consider the problem solved for me - I still have Firefox with ~700 tabs in the main group and ~1100 (?) in total, but more modern browsers I use don't exceed 10 in the long term, with the remaining tabs being mail/SNS or lectures I want to go through, but slack on them. The biggest change I had to undergo was consuming only as much as I can handle, including ALSO the intentions to consume. I avoid opening tabs in the first place, unless I can determine I have enough time and interest to handle them immediately.
And that Arc browser looks like someone has picked up Opera 12 and added vertical tab list and few simple tricks, so the idea overall looks aged AF - which means that it was good enough in the first place to be continued.
Awesome. It looks like a mix between Edge and Vivaldi and improved on their ideas.
Currently i have 365 tabs open in firefox with the tree style tab plugin. But i've cleaned them. Before cleaning them, i actually had about 700+ tabs open... safe to say this video i found about arc is extremely useful for me. Lol.
Still has tabs 😀 I do like it. Not sure I'll use it as a default browser ever, but it's a cool thing to use and play with
I have never understood the tab hoarding thing. I can never have more than 8-10 tabs open or I will desperately try to get rid of them and close them as soon as I am done. Sometimes I am so desperate that I close them without realising that I need it again. Like it gets so annoying beyond that number where I can't even freaking find anything.
I have +300 right now, many research projects at the same time :/
12 which is actually really low for Vivaldi's vertical tabs. I have half of my tab bar empty and I don't have any stacked tabs rightnow.
Looks promising! I joined the waiting list. How long did you get access?
Just for you (or whoever sees this first): arc.net/gift/7f64ddc7
@@linkingyourthinking whoooo! Awesome, it was still valid! Thanks a lot! ❣
also, you earned my subscription! :D
wow Cmd, Alt, SHFT, C to have mark down link with title of the page is cool. Also Pop up mini browser, Split view and Split view, Picture in Picture Pop up video are useful! Thanks for sharing subed and liked! Love your approach of sharing free tools that are powerful! Awesome niche!
Thank you for sharing
Any time!
Only 6 tabs here.
Don't need more closed source Google stuff.
I run my browser about 1050 wide - often side by side with something else, so I don't want any side panel to add to this.
I also have no issues with tabs - when I have more than 6, I organise and close before I open more.
To organise information, I use Marktext notes on my computer, not the browser.
I use Opera GX and the RAM limiter helps me to not slow down my laptop (since oder tabs get deactivated when I'm over my RAM limit which I usually are. At least it kinda helps.
I don't get how people use tabs like this. I only keep three or four open at a time, but I notice that 90% of my friends have billions out at a time. They also don't know how to mass close tabs (right click a tab, close other tabs). It's so silly.
To be honest I think we're past due to have the ability to treat any page as a first-class citizen on the desktop like any locally-installed app and choose which browser we want to run each one.
You can already partially do this using MS Edge at which point you get taskbar/start menu/dock icons for each page you use frequently, and you can mix them in with your other icons how you like, assign them to keyboard shortcuts, group them into folders, or do anything your OS of choice would normally be able to do with app icons. The only major issues are the fact that this only currently only works with Edge, and that it's a pain when you want to have multiple instances of the same web app (like when you sign into multiple GMail accounts). Ideally, every major OS would natively support the concept of "installed" apps that are really just web site URLs and the ID of whichever browser you want to load the app with.
Like, it should be a no-brainer that I could drag a tab from Firefox onto the Windows task bar or Mac OS dock to create a permanent app icon to open that page in a dedicated window separate from the rest of the browser.
I've been on their windows waitlist for a while. Can't wait for them to launch the windows version this year
Not sold, but willing to try, signed up for the wait list. :D
There is a learning curve...take your time with it
@@linkingyourthinking Since you are replying I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for Obsidian, it's changed my life immesurably. I wish you success and health. 🙏
Honestly wasn't sold my self despite having access for a long time i never installed it just did and its great for me at least there was no learning curve and everything just felt better. Everything feels so polished. If i was you I would not wait for the waitlist just google some codes theres many online.
This is interesting. I never knew the tab problem was a thing.
Thank you for sharing. FYI, you can do much of these features using Microsoft Edges vertical tab feature.
Vertical Tabs, Pinned Tabs, and also Collections are all features that made me ditch chrome and swap to Edge. The only thing I see in arc is the buttons, but honestly, the bookmarks bar serves the exact same purpose.
Many of these features do exist on some Firefox extensions, however current Chrome makes it very difficutl to override so much of its behavior.
Been waiting to try it on Windows for a while. Looks promising..
The only thing that I'm impressed is how already existing features can be repackaged and shuffled around to make the NEXT new thing that everybody wants...
Just like the iPhone
I am neck deep in tabs to the point that my laptop has been choking for years.
I feel your pain
I currently have 38 tabs open in Firefox.
I think my upper limit is about 60 tabs before I realize how messy it is.
How good is it with privacy and security?
Do you need to have chrome installed to be able to use this browser?
Have you tried the iOS version? If so how do you like it?
I wonder how long the waiting ETA for the private beta is?
hope it will come to linux, im using popos and I'm literally in love with the concept
Ok, i got the idea. Not that bad. Simply it offers better tab management. However, if you are opening more than 10 tabs regularly that's a problem. That means you're consuming ram and battery. What's the point opening 30 tabs on 14 inch screen. I know there are some people they never close tabs but their knowledge about computer is very limited.
When you are on a ultrawide monitor and the tabs become so small that the icons disappear, you should ... open a new browser window xD
While doing research for my debate club and some personal computer projects, around 40 tabs
I had 2000+ tabs during the worst years. I'm trying to stick to 30-40 now, but it's though.
Okay, now that is impressive. I'm happy you're doing better now.
I couldn’t agree with you more Nick! I have been using it for a while on my Mac and I can’t wait for the Windows version so I can use it at work too.
Can you share an invite 🤲🏽?
so when can i use ARC on windows?
I use Microsoft Edge because I can use vertical tabs.
I have more than 100, maybe even 150, tabs.
The reason is that I would want to go back to that tab at SOME point, and I don't want to lose them.
If ARC can remember my tabs, I wouldn't have that many.
As a Vivaldi user, I'm yawning. Not only is most of the productivity functionality already there, it"s available for all OS, including mobile. No need to fuss with a Mac-only beta.
(A Vivaldi user has entered the room)
Vivaldi-turned-Arc user here. From Chrome to Brave, to Vivaldi, the tab system has always been a staple, but that didn’t mean it had to be that way.
The use of space that considers that content is more vertical-limited than width-limited is awesome. Really the likeliest direction web browsers would have gone if the design kept evolving instead of being stagnant on what essentially is the same thing, just newer.
Now in a functional perspective, Vivaldi is great. But Arc offers enough for me that it is more than sufficient as well.
O no, I didn't know it was a bad habit, I have 55 tabs on my phone browser and 14 on my laptop browser!
I use Edge, and almost all of these features exist here, but Arc does redesign them and make them better.
thanks man. Its all great. I am allready using Arc since a few months. But also still Safari. Because: I need to sync between iOS, iPadOS and Mac. As long as Arc is not available for all these platforms, I stick with Safari. 😐
It has a lit of little Gui helps but most of these can be done in extensions. I'm always looking at better ways to work.
To show how much I use browsers, I have had over 200 tabs open in a browser split among several windows separated by topics. And that was one of the couple of browsers I had up. It doesn't solve the problem of bookmarks organization, I've had at times over 15,000 bookmarks. I have occasionally pruned that to just over 5,000.
Still not a solution to my problem.
Archives and Screenshot - I liked these two.
Don't like the tab settings as I mostly use keyboard to navigate. Seems like a nuisance. Also it is taking away horizontal space.
why is there a waiting list for Arc browser? i am not getting it....
I hope it allows a tree style tab layout.
I am that that bad. My record so far is 260 tab open at the same time I think. Thanks for talking about this :)
There are extensions and add-ons that do that in both Firefox and chrome
Just checked my tabs on my mobile and laptop, and there is only one tab opened on both
57 tabs (agreed on craziness). Interesting on Arc. Thanks. Windows only guy, so I'll check back later. Web directly in Obsidian is starting to gain momentum -- THAT is the end-game for me.
I have +300 tabs and that's normal to me, damn
i have over four thousand tabs open, aint closing tho
the other day i randomly touched one and saw a cute cat picture
"How many tabs are open?"
In PC it's none, but in mobile it has always been ":D" for years.
Until the autoclosing, I was interested. I will have a group of tabs open, and not revisit them for a month or so until I get back to that being THE thing I'm working on.
Was excited to see that it's chromium-based. If only it didn't autoclose. Was gonna actually get it if I could.
Can't you just put the tabs you don't want autoclosed into the region above those tabs? I'm referring to the middle region between the pinned tabs (at the top) and the autoclosing tabs (at the bottom).
@@jeffevio That's every tab. If something autocloses, that'd be devastating. Heck, I've went into self harm before from closing stuff manually that I could Ctrl+Shift+T.
@@rmt3589 Yeah I'm a little attached to my tabs myself too haha. I'd definitely need to at the very least have only some tabs as being auto closable for me to use that solution. Not sure about you but there are tabs that I open to just quickly look something up and for whatever reason don't just close it immediately even though I know I won't need it again (like looking up movie time for this week - something that will never be useful again in the future haha). For me, those tabs are good candidates for auto closing.
@@jeffevio Yeah, but I'm good at closing those. Often I open them as incognito, so they won't stick around. Ctrl+Shift+N, search real quick, Ctrl+W.
I got 865 tabs using opera and their context system, at first i thought opera context was gonna save me, i just made 16 context, and opera is holding half my ram hostage
Recently deleted chrome and started using Brave because I’m sick of Google Ads. Easier to focus when you’re not being bombarded with advertising.
I have the opposite habit: closing tabs and windows the second I switch to another one. I'm sure it will cost me an unsaved document one day...
2 tabs, youtube and riot games simple, clean, it honestly depends on the person using the browser, some people love to have their workspace looking fresh
Oh boy, that's around 400+ tabs last time i checked
Still waitlisted. Still waiting to try Arc.
28 tabs open right now. I break them up into workspaces with Opera. I have an average of 7 per workspace.
I think i have about 500 tabs opened, and probably at least 50 of them dups, but iam to lasy to go through them and close what i dont need.