Love your points on tank size, exactly right these are complex animals who are well aware of the fact they are contained no matter the size of the tank, keep up the awesome videos!
Great video as always. I live in the UK and use Vitalis food on my reef tank - I have found that that the platinum range will even help fish fight off white spot/ich
Kia Ora from New Zealand, love the content and the channel. Our one spot fox face went to town on our LPS, as did our schooling banner, both were subsequently rehomed shortly after, but then again our clowns attacked our elegance and our pyramid butterfly had it in for our tube nem! Agree on your comment about tank size, two tanks the same size can have vastly different swim space depending on coral type/placement and rock structure also, so difficult to advise people.
Tangs are considered parasite magnets. It’s because tangs protective coat is most fragile than other fish. If your biological filter is compromised from flow from debris or overstocking, this can cause trace levels of ammonia thus affecting the protective slime coat of fish allowing parasites to attach. They can endure for years with the odd parasite here and there but through good biological filter and tank flow upkeep/cleaning, parasites can be eliminated.
Now that the Hawaii ban has been lifted I've been debating getting a yellow tang. Since my tank is small I'm going to eventually look for a baby and either upsize my tank or get rid of it by then. I see professionals keep tangs in coral beds all the time so regardless of the water volume there's not much room. I'm sure you could tell if the fish was unhealthy, beaten up or tattered.
Awesome video, love videos like these Hope you also cover things like.."how we keep nitrates down, our recommendations" or phosphates down or the best fish you recommend for nano tanks etc
@@garrycole9187 Yes, tailspot (autocorrect) But huh that’s weird mine is surprising since he ate mysis at the store and prefers mysis but will graze a lot throughout the day
What about mollies, no worry about quarantine, or ich there cheap colourful produce live food for everything else and act as dither fish, they also eat brown slime algae?
Hey guys , love the videos, I'm having algae trouble but its that brown green algae on my glass , the hermit crabs are taking care of the hair algae and i have turbo snails , i think i need more ,is there anything else i can add to help ?? ,I'm scraping my glass daily at this stage 😂
Some snails and/or a hermit are your best bet. If your tank can support it, a lawnmower blenny is an option but bigger would be better. You want to make sure you can keep feeding the blenny after it's eaten all the algea. Try to find one that's eating prepared food before you buy it if you go that route. Hope that helps.
Is keeping a fish in a 20g tank that people say needs a 30+ gallon tank really any worse then keeping a dog in a tiny apt where the owner might take them out only to poop? No as long as the fish is active and eating good they are ok...but there is a difference in keeping a fish in a tank that is way to small. For example a gold fish in a 1g tank. The reason there is a difference is because the goldfish will stop growing at some point but his insides keep growing thus killing him. Can people be happy living in a tiny house? There is a tv show only about people that enjoy tiny houses...is i wrong to keep then in tiny area? We keep humans in a 6x6 box with even less of a view and we keep them there for upto 80 years...is that no worse then keeping a 30g fish in a 20g tank?
Please bare to read this response, for the sake of your fish, any you may consider owning or for the ones owned by the people you know. Whether or not fish accept food and have good water quality is one thing, but there are many more factors that determine the health and stress level of a fish compared to humans, dogs, etc. Firstly; fish, in particular tangs, have territories. They need a certain amount of space to themselves to feel comfortable. When put in a small aquarium, even alone, they simply can't have that. You'll see that in smaller tanks below 50-100 gallons depending on the age and size of the fish even zebrasoma tangs will start rapidly darting around the tank as they age. Thereby increasing stress. In subjectively larger tanks with a capacity of 120-150 gallons, 2 zebrasomas such as yellow or purple tangs will almost always still fight. Resulting again in increased stress. That brings me to my second point, diseases such as marine velvet, ich, etc. Fish have a slime coat, which acts as a deterrent to these parasites. When fish are stressed their slime coat fades and they become prone to getting those parasites because of it. Often coming in waves leading aquarists to believe it simply got better, because of the closed off aquarium enviroment these parasites' life cycle causes every spawning event of more parasites to be worse than the last. Almost always leading to the death of the fish. In larger tanks, appropriately sized for tangs (which depends entirely on the species, but for zebrasomas I would personally say absolutely no less than a 4-5 foot long tank for a single specimen) there can be much less stress, thereby keeping their slime coats, which is like their immune system, intact. Even if you don't think these parasites exist in your aquarium, they do. They may never show themselves until it is too late. And even then, this is not the only factor. A constantly stressed fish much like any other animal, humans included, is not a healthy fish. This is not merely anecdotal evidence, but there is plenty of data on this subject. Tangs have life spans of 20-30 years. Sometimes even more. No tang has ever lived that long in such a small system, yet plenty have reached those numbers with ease in appropriately sized ones. Marine biologists determined that in the wild, sohal tangs often keep a territory of 12x12 feet entirely for themselves and defend it aggressively. Is that the same for zebrasomas or bristletooth tangs? Not at all, but it explains why sohal tangs are pinned as highly aggressive in tanks of even sub 500 gallons. Even in larger tanks these fish don't often live long enough to ever reach their true adult size. Years are no proof if a fish's lifespan consists of decades. There is much more to add to this but this text is long enough as it is. If your mind is truly set, I can't stop you from owning a tang in a 20-30 gallon tank which is not suitable for any tang long term. But hopefully this can cause you to reconsider and perhaps teach you a thing or two. Please understand that a fish is entirely your responsibility if you put it in your aquarium, and that even if it will be fine for some months, it will suffer in those conditions. Whilst there are people and dogs that can survive (which is far from thrive) in cramped enviroments, fish are no where near the same being as us or any mammal. There are many incredible looking fish that can thrive in 20 gallon tanks, please consider them instead and if you do have a tang consider relocating it back to the fish store or to someone with a capable system. Thanks.
I had a sail fin tomini blue and added a yellow in a 4 foot The yellow killed off everything Hes now the king and I lost some of My favourite fish I couldn't move him in time :( sad day but always wanted a yellow I would add one yellow every 4 foot or so Maybe 2 in a 6 foot would be pushin it imo Im gonna need to upgrade later for my eppaulete anyways so I plan on more again eventually
I am debating this question. This might help for a video. As a reef guy, what do you think of adding fish into a reef tank the African cichlid tank method. So generally African cichlids are very aggressive, so you never want to add one fish at a time. As a general rule you add at least 5 at a time to disperse any aggression from the fish already in the tank. Is this too old school mentality lol? Am I going to be labeled mean? (Actual question) Will the new fish survive?
I think adding multiple fish at once helps alot with aggression and I’ve found adding them after lights out is the best I have 4 clowns in my 25 gallon and zero aggression and I added the second pair weeks after the first but at night and the next day there was absolutely zero Fights .
Some snails and/or a hermit are your best bet. If your tank can support it, a lawnmower blenny is an option but bigger would be better. You want to make sure you can keep feeding the blenny after it's eaten all the algea. Try to find one that's eating prepared food before you buy it if you go that route. Hope that helps.
Never heard of ich in saltwater tanks. Fresh, OH YEAH! Not salt. Looked yesterday for my old LFS and it seems they are out of business. The only two left I wouldn't remote go there. Very overly priced even for the market I have seen and very poor stock. I would ask you about it but I don't think you will ship to here. So, am going to have to find something that is only that can ship here. Just hope the fishes live.
Love your points on tank size, exactly right these are complex animals who are well aware of the fact they are contained no matter the size of the tank, keep up the awesome videos!
Great video as always. I live in the UK and use Vitalis food on my reef tank - I have found that that the platinum range will even help fish fight off white spot/ich
Kia Ora from New Zealand, love the content and the channel. Our one spot fox face went to town on our LPS, as did our schooling banner, both were subsequently rehomed shortly after, but then again our clowns attacked our elegance and our pyramid butterfly had it in for our tube nem! Agree on your comment about tank size, two tanks the same size can have vastly different swim space depending on coral type/placement and rock structure also, so difficult to advise people.
Tangs are considered parasite magnets. It’s because tangs protective coat is most fragile than other fish. If your biological filter is compromised from flow from debris or overstocking, this can cause trace levels of ammonia thus affecting the protective slime coat of fish allowing parasites to attach. They can endure for years with the odd parasite here and there but through good biological filter and tank flow upkeep/cleaning, parasites can be eliminated.
Now that the Hawaii ban has been lifted I've been debating getting a yellow tang. Since my tank is small I'm going to eventually look for a baby and either upsize my tank or get rid of it by then. I see professionals keep tangs in coral beds all the time so regardless of the water volume there's not much room. I'm sure you could tell if the fish was unhealthy, beaten up or tattered.
Waah si mamang udah punya berapa hektar sawah mang? udah tenang dapat warisan dari bapaknya Pegi nya mang nya? hahaaay......
Awesome video, love videos like these
Hope you also cover things like.."how we keep nitrates down, our recommendations" or phosphates down or the best fish you recommend for nano tanks etc
Update on the baller nanosystem
Tailspin blennys could also be included. Surprisingly they are great algae eaters and are generally more active then other algae eating blennys.
Do you mean tailspot blenny? My tailspot blenny could care less about algae.
@@garrycole9187 Yes, tailspot (autocorrect) But huh that’s weird mine is surprising since he ate mysis at the store and prefers mysis but will graze a lot throughout the day
Great video 👍🏽
No keep powder blue tang sir ??
Absolutely love your videos. What’s going on with the expensive nano tank?
sounds like a good video... i +1 this
What about mollies, no worry about quarantine, or ich there cheap colourful produce live food for everything else and act as dither fish, they also eat brown slime algae?
my tangs never ate algae. spoiled with Rod's food
Hey guys , love the videos, I'm having algae trouble but its that brown green algae on my glass , the hermit crabs are taking care of the hair algae and i have turbo snails , i think i need more ,is there anything else i can add to help ??
,I'm scraping my glass daily at this stage 😂
More regular filter changes.
Water change
UV fast flow over it
Less food
No lights for 3 days.
Can you suggest great algae eating fish or inverts for a 40 gallon breeder ? I know yellow tangs are not an option with the prices they are going for.
Some snails and/or a hermit are your best bet. If your tank can support it, a lawnmower blenny is an option but bigger would be better. You want to make sure you can keep feeding the blenny after it's eaten all the algea. Try to find one that's eating prepared food before you buy it if you go that route. Hope that helps.
Nothing to do with today s topic; but I saw you had some Hydra over the DT could you share the settings? Thanks :)
Have a look at some recent posts about the Hydra's, settings were shared then.
@@jw3393 thanks!
what is the best tang to clean up green turf algae
Is keeping a fish in a 20g tank that people say needs a 30+ gallon tank really any worse then keeping a dog in a tiny apt where the owner might take them out only to poop? No as long as the fish is active and eating good they are ok...but there is a difference in keeping a fish in a tank that is way to small. For example a gold fish in a 1g tank. The reason there is a difference is because the goldfish will stop growing at some point but his insides keep growing thus killing him. Can people be happy living in a tiny house? There is a tv show only about people that enjoy tiny houses...is i wrong to keep then in tiny area? We keep humans in a 6x6 box with even less of a view and we keep them there for upto 80 years...is that no worse then keeping a 30g fish in a 20g tank?
Please bare to read this response, for the sake of your fish, any you may consider owning or for the ones owned by the people you know.
Whether or not fish accept food and have good water quality is one thing, but there are many more factors that determine the health and stress level of a fish compared to humans, dogs, etc. Firstly; fish, in particular tangs, have territories. They need a certain amount of space to themselves to feel comfortable. When put in a small aquarium, even alone, they simply can't have that. You'll see that in smaller tanks below 50-100 gallons depending on the age and size of the fish even zebrasoma tangs will start rapidly darting around the tank as they age. Thereby increasing stress. In subjectively larger tanks with a capacity of 120-150 gallons, 2 zebrasomas such as yellow or purple tangs will almost always still fight. Resulting again in increased stress. That brings me to my second point, diseases such as marine velvet, ich, etc. Fish have a slime coat, which acts as a deterrent to these parasites. When fish are stressed their slime coat fades and they become prone to getting those parasites because of it. Often coming in waves leading aquarists to believe it simply got better, because of the closed off aquarium enviroment these parasites' life cycle causes every spawning event of more parasites to be worse than the last. Almost always leading to the death of the fish. In larger tanks, appropriately sized for tangs (which depends entirely on the species, but for zebrasomas I would personally say absolutely no less than a 4-5 foot long tank for a single specimen) there can be much less stress, thereby keeping their slime coats, which is like their immune system, intact. Even if you don't think these parasites exist in your aquarium, they do. They may never show themselves until it is too late. And even then, this is not the only factor. A constantly stressed fish much like any other animal, humans included, is not a healthy fish. This is not merely anecdotal evidence, but there is plenty of data on this subject. Tangs have life spans of 20-30 years. Sometimes even more. No tang has ever lived that long in such a small system, yet plenty have reached those numbers with ease in appropriately sized ones. Marine biologists determined that in the wild, sohal tangs often keep a territory of 12x12 feet entirely for themselves and defend it aggressively. Is that the same for zebrasomas or bristletooth tangs? Not at all, but it explains why sohal tangs are pinned as highly aggressive in tanks of even sub 500 gallons. Even in larger tanks these fish don't often live long enough to ever reach their true adult size. Years are no proof if a fish's lifespan consists of decades. There is much more to add to this but this text is long enough as it is. If your mind is truly set, I can't stop you from owning a tang in a 20-30 gallon tank which is not suitable for any tang long term. But hopefully this can cause you to reconsider and perhaps teach you a thing or two. Please understand that a fish is entirely your responsibility if you put it in your aquarium, and that even if it will be fine for some months, it will suffer in those conditions. Whilst there are people and dogs that can survive (which is far from thrive) in cramped enviroments, fish are no where near the same being as us or any mammal. There are many incredible looking fish that can thrive in 20 gallon tanks, please consider them instead and if you do have a tang consider relocating it back to the fish store or to someone with a capable system. Thanks.
Tomini are the smallest of the Tangs?
Foxface are veromous!!!
I had a sail fin tomini blue and added a yellow in a 4 foot
The yellow killed off everything
Hes now the king and I lost some of My favourite fish
I couldn't move him in time
:( sad day but always wanted a yellow
I would add one yellow every 4 foot or so
Maybe 2 in a 6 foot would be pushin it imo
Im gonna need to upgrade later for my eppaulete anyways so I plan on more again eventually
if you would have put him in a 6' tank over the 4' tank do you think he would have still killed or do you thing it was the tank?
I am debating this question. This might help for a video. As a reef guy, what do you think of adding fish into a reef tank the African cichlid tank method. So generally African cichlids are very aggressive, so you never want to add one fish at a time. As a general rule you add at least 5 at a time to disperse any aggression from the fish already in the tank. Is this too old school mentality lol? Am I going to be labeled mean? (Actual question) Will the new fish survive?
I think adding multiple fish at once helps alot with aggression and I’ve found adding them after lights out is the best I have 4 clowns in my 25 gallon and zero aggression and I added the second pair weeks after the first but at night and the next day there was absolutely zero
Fights .
It depends on your system, if you have a relatively new system, adding 5 fish can really place a large bio-load into the system.
I had a lawnmower blenny and plenty of algae for him but he withered away. 😢
Same :( mine had an internal parasite I believe, and he was always skinny (they’re very prone to internal parasites etc.)
Hey March do you want my purple tang I'll trade for a coral
excellent point... large prison cell or small... honestly, I'd take the large but would rather neither :-)
💣
I think it’s a hit or miss whether or not any fish will eat the algae… be vigilant reefers 😎🐠
Also, love ur thoughts on tangs!
i have a 32 gallon tank and looking for a small fish thats reef safe and eats algae could you suggest anything thank you
Some snails and/or a hermit are your best bet. If your tank can support it, a lawnmower blenny is an option but bigger would be better. You want to make sure you can keep feeding the blenny after it's eaten all the algea. Try to find one that's eating prepared food before you buy it if you go that route. Hope that helps.
Never heard of ich in saltwater tanks. Fresh, OH YEAH! Not salt. Looked yesterday for my old LFS and it seems they are out of business. The only two left I wouldn't remote go there. Very overly priced even for the market I have seen and very poor stock. I would ask you about it but I don't think you will ship to here. So, am going to have to find something that is only that can ship here. Just hope the fishes live.
I PUT PURLPLE TANG M SIZE IN 1FEET TANK, IT OK . ALGEA EATING NICE JOB.
You got a dislike from me because you don't know the difference from poisonous and venomous.