Recently picked this figure up myself. Instructions say nothing about the "horns" locking in. But I just found out that if you press the "orb/spark" in the chest with them pressed down it should lock them in. And press it again to release them.
The pylons do actually peg in Balt. You just have to keep pushing it deep down until the red circle 'button' on his chest pops out. The red circle button is also where you push to pop out the pylons similar to Sentinel Prime
Nick Bolock jeah but sad as well because my first thought was to contact hasbro for Service for the pylon problem.. but due to the fact that it is generic it wont be of much use:/
The eyes of the lion are actually connected to the purple part, so when you take it apart (no pin removal required, just screws), you can easily paint the eye silver to make it pop :D
eh leo prime and this giy have quite different designs though only guy i feel like he could be made into is vector prime which has been rumored to be coming
I'd rather see Thundertron because we never got a Thundertron figure released in the US. Plus, you can have the ship mode be the ship which I'm going to call Tidal wave (because that's who it really is). That would be the most amazing thing I'd ever see in a transformer figure.
I kinda feel bad for baltmatrix, i got this figure for Christmas, around the same year the video came up, and it was perfectly fine, i did have one paw pop off every once in a while, but evrything else was fine
I just Googled the Qilin, which might as well be a Chinese Chimera. I do see the similarities between that and Titans Return Alpha Trion's beast mode. Plus, both Trion and the Qilin are good guys. That's another similarity.
I think Alpha Trion having a beast mode is a reference to a toy he was going to have created by 3H comics where he was a recoloring of Beast Machines Snarl.
fun fact: AT'S headmaster is based upon Beta Maxx, and Safeguard (the minicon's for SG AT and Vector Prime (an upcoming Titans Return figure, that's a redeco of AT))
Another fun fact, the early concept art for the space ship mode is based on one of the ships from the Yamato series, which was revealed by the artist on twitter, but then he removed the images, and asked other Transformers sites to delete the images too, because Yamato is owned by Bandai! This was the original early concept art for Alpha Trion - en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/images/3/37/Alphatrion-shipconcept.jpg This is the ship it's based on, which they later changed a lot so it couldn't be recognized: yamato.wikia.com/wiki/Darold
The reason the screws were loose,etc.. The figures are made in Vietnam and the workers at the factory were probably in a hurry to get the figures put together. MY twin inferno figure had it's legs on backwards too !! I don;t like how most of these figures have the lock in pegs, most the time the parts don't or hardly line up with the pegs.
Baltmatrix I know that you feel the need to inform us on any mold problems you have with the toy but I believe that all you need to is say what the issue was, BUT already have it fixed so it does not interrupt the review, also it is Leo Breaker
If you hold the head side pieces down while you push the button with your other hand the head side pieces will stay down. I noticed in the review baltmatrix said his wouldn't stay down so when I got mine I kept messing with it until I figured it out.
Just an FYI. Not sure if you were able to figure it out or not, but the horns on the side of the head need to be pushed down a little further into the chest, for it to click in. My figure did the same thing when I first got it. I tried pushing them in with the tip of my finger as far down as I could, and it clicked. Kind of a pain in the butt, but it does stay put.
To get the pylons down, you must hold down the orange orb in his chest then push them down and release the orb. You should hear I click sound. At least that's how I get mine to work.
balt, can we see any alternate transformations for those belly paws? I personally would like to see them either flipped down or flipped around onto his back. Its not the paws that put me off but the joint that leaves two love handles on the sides of his belly like a muffintop. Also, there are mushroom joints on the paws.. maybe turn them around so that they form more of a skirt with his loincloth section?
I'd like see this toy in yellow and blue or maybe some silver too (as Cheetor colors) and renamed Alpha Trizer, since the beast mode obviously borrows from the comic storyline with old Cheetor/Alpha Trizer anyway.
Someone really missed a trick when they designed this - the post on his arm really should be a "Dead" Mini-con post. that way they have a place to put a Minicon if they decide to do a Vector Prime version as well as having a spot for attachment for any Takara campaign Micron toys. Speaking of which I do worry about the breakage potential of Titanmasters made from clear plastic... which is so typical of use on Campaign toys.
Before I watch anymore of this video can I say this looks like Leo Prime from Cyber Planet Key series in the Transformers Cartoon range. Robot mode looks good, Space ship mode is ok though some more paint to make him look better for space ship mode
+Balt actually, those pylons will stay down if you push them in far enough, but it's still a pain in the ass to do. You have to, basically, push the tip of your finger into the space along with the pylons, and even then it could take a couple of tries. It sucks that you got such a messed up figure, though. Mine came out of the package great, so I guess it's thankfully just a random QC issue.
The qc must be jumpy, my pylons go down (requires a little force until a click goes and a little wiggle, seems there is a clip there) and both the animal paws are easily knocked off (not flash on mine, the pegs that hold them in are soooo tiny), arms are sturdy and legs are reasonably tight. I see the retool of this going in vector prime (loosely based on the upside down torso and cybertronian inscriptions+jewel) or big convoy even, but he'll require a retool either way, a substantial one, but not leo prime like I first thought (he only has one lion head shoulder plus the chest differs/forms). I look forward to whatever they do to this EDIT:also tried my tamashii stand (act combiner) and from what I can tell (on mine) the balljoint that lets the peg pivot actually blocks the pegs entry causing it to fit at an angle, that peg is part of the transformation for the lion mode anyway (gonna need to measure the leg that fits)
my alpha trion figure came out of the box with no problems whatsoever but it was half past impossible to get out the titan master head,and I am STILL trying to get the head to go back on
What bothers me is how many people think just because he turns into a lion he will be retooled into a character who turned into a lion like leo prime, lio convoy, leobreaker, and etc but to be honest its likely going to be made into vector prime who actually has been rumored as well i believe was in the massive name leak of caharacters we would be getting in titan's return
Despite the QC issues that people have run into, I'd like a figure of Optimus Prime's Obi-Wan, Alpha Trion. Makes me wish that he got the Leader Class treatment.
I believe the ship mode was based on a pre-concept of a yamato spaceship well accoarding to RetroRobotRadio it was also the issues are probably just on balts figure cause chefatron's was completely fine
I have a second-hand figure of this, and it is al good. Maybe the previous owner fixes my figure, or maybe you really should complain to who sells this to you about issues, dude. And, I aslo like to fix his gun to one of his legs in beast mode. Anyway, I think this the coolest and best version of Alpha Trion ever in history! Would like to see him appear in animes! We need a series about The Thirteen, and then figures of them all! ^v< b
I have noticed QC problems on recent figures like Skullcruncher's legs being loose mine had a problem with the crocodile head tabs too large to plug into the shoulders, and with Scourge all 3 of mine have loose head plugs Blurr, Skullcruncher and Hardhead have this problem to a lesser degree
Hey I found out how to lock the it's the end up on the side of the head for Orion packs you push on the center thing in the chest It releases a lock you pushed on on the pieces then you let go of it it locks them in the place
It is possible to lock Alpha Trion's pylons into the chest. Push them all the way into the body until you hear a click (they should be flush or just below the top of the torso gap), then gently lever them towards the front of the Robot chest. They will then hold in place somewhat loosely. It holds reasonably well. It's not very intuitive, though.
you should talk to hasbro if it's really bad. My poor Hardhead had one of his thighs installed backwards (resulted in knee bending backwards and mis transformation). I contacted hasbro and they're going to send me a new one. (hopefully)
Is this guy actually out in stores right now? Because if You somehow got one early I'd say you probably got a factory reject or something. This particular figure is obviously a lemon.
Recently picked this figure up myself. Instructions say nothing about the "horns" locking in. But I just found out that if you press the "orb/spark" in the chest with them pressed down it should lock them in. And press it again to release them.
The pylons do actually peg in Balt. You just have to keep pushing it deep down until the red circle 'button' on his chest pops out. The red circle button is also where you push to pop out the pylons similar to Sentinel Prime
good to know that my alpha trion isn't the only messed up one.
Nick Bolock jeah but sad as well because my first thought was to contact hasbro for Service for the pylon problem.. but due to the fact that it is generic it wont be of much use:/
Mes fine
The eyes of the lion are actually connected to the purple part, so when you take it apart (no pin removal required, just screws), you can easily paint the eye silver to make it pop :D
This guy is just begging to be repainted as Leo Prime
eh leo prime and this giy have quite different designs though only guy i feel like he could be made into is vector prime which has been rumored to be coming
I'd rather see Thundertron because we never got a Thundertron figure released in the US. Plus, you can have the ship mode be the ship which I'm going to call Tidal wave (because that's who it really is). That would be the most amazing thing I'd ever see in a transformer figure.
+Seventh Mandalorian thundertron was released in the US though
+Jetfire48 Sorry, I didn't know. I only saw the japan release.
Or Vector Prime.
I kinda feel bad for baltmatrix, i got this figure for Christmas, around the same year the video came up, and it was perfectly fine, i did have one paw pop off every once in a while, but evrything else was fine
the alt mode is a chinese unicorn
I just Googled the Qilin, which might as well be a Chinese Chimera. I do see the similarities between that and Titans Return Alpha Trion's beast mode. Plus, both Trion and the Qilin are good guys. That's another similarity.
I think I might pick this one up.
Man, Jobby would LOVE this figure.
I'm just happy we finally got an Alpha Trion
Picked this guy and Astrotrain this morning, I haven't any QC issues besides a slightly wobbly knee left knee on the both of them
I think Alpha Trion having a beast mode is a reference to a toy he was going to have created by 3H comics where he was a recoloring of Beast Machines Snarl.
just got mine, didn't have any of the problems you had, thank primus, but I love it
I totally see that the upcoming broadside is retooled from from this. At the least, they share parts of the legs.
fun fact: AT'S headmaster is based upon Beta Maxx, and Safeguard (the minicon's for SG AT and Vector Prime (an upcoming Titans Return figure, that's a redeco of AT))
It's called a titan master ;)
They serve the same purpose.
Yea, Takara even calls them Headmasters, so it seems to be interchangable. Like Micron and Mini-Con.
Another fun fact, the early concept art for the space ship mode is based on one of the ships from the Yamato series, which was revealed by the artist on twitter, but then he removed the images, and asked other Transformers sites to delete the images too, because Yamato is owned by Bandai!
This was the original early concept art for Alpha Trion - en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/images/3/37/Alphatrion-shipconcept.jpg
This is the ship it's based on, which they later changed a lot so it couldn't be recognized: yamato.wikia.com/wiki/Darold
source for confirmed Vector Prime? haven't heard anything about him
#figured out how to get the things on the side of his head to stay down. #push them down really far then push them back.
Oh how young and naive I used to be…
The reason the screws were loose,etc.. The figures are made in Vietnam and the workers at the factory were probably in a hurry to get the figures put together. MY twin inferno figure had it's legs on backwards too !! I don;t like how most of these figures have the lock in pegs, most the time the parts don't or hardly line up with the pegs.
Got one today. It is better than I was expecting.
Sounds like your Alpha Trion was the victim of some either malfunctioning machinery, or someone who really needed a cup of coffee. 🍵
Repainted into another Prime? Feh! We have too many already! Gimme a THUNDERTRON!
Just buy the prime figure nothing of this says thundertron....
...except, 'y'know, old guy with mustache turns into a mechanical lion.
Baltmatrix I know that you feel the need to inform us on any mold problems you have with the toy but I believe that all you need to is say what the issue was, BUT already have it fixed so it does not interrupt the review, also it is Leo Breaker
It's not really Leobreaker at all just the designs look way different to be that
depends on the continuity i guess
I think you are the first to review this figure, so, good job Spada
I figured out that if you press on Alpha's Spark and push down the horns at the same time, they will lock into place. Just catching ya up! 😀
The side head pieces can be locked in place if you press the release button while you push the side parts in
Pie Ninja tried that on mine.. didn't work either :/ seemingly an generic construction flaw
I like the color scheme and paint apps. But holly COW at those qc issues....
anyone got a transmetal feel with this guy?
Yeah
What you said about repaints can be possible especially since the head can be replaced. ;)
If you hold the head side pieces down while you push the button with your other hand the head side pieces will stay down. I noticed in the review baltmatrix said his wouldn't stay down so when I got mine I kept messing with it until I figured it out.
I got my Alpha Trion antennas to stay down by pushing them slightly towards the front of the figure while at the same time pushing the release button
Just an FYI. Not sure if you were able to figure it out or not, but the horns on the side of the head need to be pushed down a little further into the chest, for it to click in. My figure did the same thing when I first got it. I tried pushing them in with the tip of my finger as far down as I could, and it clicked. Kind of a pain in the butt, but it does stay put.
The Lion comes riding in.
I had the same issue with the pylons, you just need to push them in more until you hear a loud click.
That looks quite nice
To get the pylons down, you must hold down the orange orb in his chest then push them down and release the orb. You should hear I click sound. At least that's how I get mine to work.
Cyber Silver yep that’s how you do it I do it that way also
Out of all the Titans Return figures, Alpha Trion is easily one of my favorite.
The pyilones do go in you push down then push back and that will clich into place
balt, can we see any alternate transformations for those belly paws? I personally would like to see them either flipped down or flipped around onto his back. Its not the paws that put me off but the joint that leaves two love handles on the sides of his belly like a muffintop. Also, there are mushroom joints on the paws.. maybe turn them around so that they form more of a skirt with his loincloth section?
I suspect Alpha Trion's Titan Master being connected to Onyx Prime in the IDW comics will explain his gaining a beast mode...
I'd like see this toy in yellow and blue or maybe some silver too (as Cheetor colors) and renamed Alpha Trizer, since the beast mode obviously borrows from the comic storyline with old Cheetor/Alpha Trizer anyway.
The curse of Spada returns.
Also, you have to press the button on his chest to get the horns to stay.
this is probably my third favorite titans return mold behind chromedome at 2 and mindwipe at 1
Howie-Alice Jones
i like weird wolf
Someone really missed a trick when they designed this - the post on his arm really should be a "Dead" Mini-con post. that way they have a place to put a Minicon if they decide to do a Vector Prime version as well as having a spot for attachment for any Takara campaign Micron toys.
Speaking of which I do worry about the breakage potential of Titanmasters made from clear plastic... which is so typical of use on Campaign toys.
Before I watch anymore of this video can I say this looks like Leo Prime from Cyber Planet Key series in the Transformers Cartoon range.
Robot mode looks good, Space ship mode is ok though some more paint to make him look better for space ship mode
Trust me it does not look at all...
Jetfire48 I did I say looks like Leo Prime as in the beast mode partnot the whole figure itself
+Balt actually, those pylons will stay down if you push them in far enough, but it's still a pain in the ass to do. You have to, basically, push the tip of your finger into the space along with the pylons, and even then it could take a couple of tries. It sucks that you got such a messed up figure, though. Mine came out of the package great, so I guess it's thankfully just a random QC issue.
Hope we get generations versions of cybertron. This would be a great Leobreaker
I would love to see this repainted as Thundertron.
Hi Baltmatrix,Alpha Trion has 3 modes I saw it in its box
i own this figure and i haven't encountered any of those problems, apart from the front paws occasionally falling off
im so going to get this guy, i hope i have enough to get him the moment i see him in my stores,
You just got a "gotta meet the daily quota but it's 4:59" figure.
The qc must be jumpy, my pylons go down (requires a little force until a click goes and a little wiggle, seems there is a clip there) and both the animal paws are easily knocked off (not flash on mine, the pegs that hold them in are soooo tiny), arms are sturdy and legs are reasonably tight.
I see the retool of this going in vector prime (loosely based on the upside down torso and cybertronian inscriptions+jewel) or big convoy even, but he'll require a retool either way, a substantial one, but not leo prime like I first thought (he only has one lion head shoulder plus the chest differs/forms).
I look forward to whatever they do to this
EDIT:also tried my tamashii stand (act combiner) and from what I can tell (on mine) the balljoint that lets the peg pivot actually blocks the pegs entry causing it to fit at an angle, that peg is part of the transformation for the lion mode anyway (gonna need to measure the leg that fits)
The pylons do stay down, you just have to push them really far down into the torso.
my alpha trion figure came out of the box with no problems whatsoever but it was half past impossible to get out the titan master head,and I am STILL trying to get the head to go back on
I think this one suffered a tragic assembly line malfunction.
Can't tell I'm on iPod and can't see time but I'm really early
i feel that the chest circle thing is reminiscent of Vector Prime
It would be kinda cool if you could plug the Alpha Trion Prime Master in the chest
What bothers me is how many people think just because he turns into a lion he will be retooled into a character who turned into a lion like leo prime, lio convoy, leobreaker, and etc but to be honest its likely going to be made into vector prime who actually has been rumored as well i believe was in the massive name leak of caharacters we would be getting in titan's return
Vector Prime is definitely a possibility as well.
He did get retooled into lio convoy
I could see this remolded as Leobreaker from transformers cybertron.
Am I the only one who could see that happening?
Despite the QC issues that people have run into, I'd like a figure of Optimus Prime's Obi-Wan, Alpha Trion. Makes me wish that he got the Leader Class treatment.
though alpha trion was never that big... it makes a bit more sense if he was voayger
Jetfire48
Still, I can hope, right? Lookin' forward to seeing Alpha Trion on store shelves at some point.
cool reveiw and cool figure I am going to get it and also baltimatrix where did you get the figure from
Who would've thought that this would be remolded into Broadside?!
That's lot of QC issues with one figure. I got little Macross ship mode feel from his space ship mode.
I believe the ship mode was based on a pre-concept of a yamato spaceship well accoarding to RetroRobotRadio it was also the issues are probably just on balts figure cause chefatron's was completely fine
for the pylons just push them down as far as you can they will eventally click.
I have a second-hand figure of this, and it is al good.
Maybe the previous owner fixes my figure, or maybe you really should complain to who sells this to you about issues, dude.
And, I aslo like to fix his gun to one of his legs in beast mode.
Anyway, I think this the coolest and best version of Alpha Trion ever in history!
Would like to see him appear in animes!
We need a series about The Thirteen, and then figures of them all!
^v< b
I think he's just very unlucky
to get the pylons to stay in the chest keep pushing them down lower into the chest until it locks.
Glad the audio issues have been sorted since the Astrotrain review.
Now why does the robot mode have sculpted pubes?
'Titans Return'? More like 'QC Left'! ;)
Just kidding, sorry you got a bum figure!
Nice joke there. Still, I'll have to be wary of QC issues if I get back into collecting again.
Would'nt be better if it was like this?
"The Titans Returned but the QC Left"
I have noticed QC problems on recent figures like Skullcruncher's legs being loose mine had a problem with the crocodile head tabs too large to plug into the shoulders, and with Scourge all 3 of mine have loose head plugs Blurr, Skullcruncher and Hardhead have this problem to a lesser degree
***** Apparently certain Titans Returns figures have had loose joints and snapped parts, hence the quality control joke.
I had an issue with my leader class black shadow, the legs are loose as all hell.
Gotta say, I think Wolfwire pulls off the wolf mode better
Yep, Wolfwire is by far the best beast mode Transformer from the Titans Return line. No contest there.
I Geass
5:16 All the way... To foockin' Victory Town... All the way...
Hey I found out how to lock the it's the end up on the side of the head for Orion packs you push on the center thing in the chest It releases a lock you pushed on on the pieces then you let go of it it locks them in the place
if watching in 2017 it looks like broadside.
He does need a re-release if that happens.
The pilon thing do go down you just got to push it very hard it ussaly hurts my fingers
It is possible to lock Alpha Trion's pylons into the chest. Push them all the way into the body until you hear a click (they should be flush or just below the top of the torso gap), then gently lever them towards the front of the Robot chest. They will then hold in place somewhat loosely. It holds reasonably well. It's not very intuitive, though.
you should talk to hasbro if it's really bad. My poor Hardhead had one of his thighs installed backwards (resulted in knee bending backwards and mis transformation). I contacted hasbro and they're going to send me a new one. (hopefully)
I know it's late, but did they?
I can see him being repainted into Tigerhawk from Beast Wars.
i think you mean more of retooled cause he would need some wings, and a new head for robot and beast
Jetfire48 Retool would be better, yes.
chefatron's toy alpha trion
is fixed but yours broken???
make sure it clicks in
Two Cybertronions are in a store and one says to the other "I should Alpha Trion this!"
My galvatron figure had some of the same problems
Alpha trion reminds me of the headmaster villain in animated
magneto
are you going to get the lio prime that takara is coming out with?
Hey balt there a transformers legend lio convoy
this guy is just begging to have his best friends made, basically, the other twelve primes, poor alpha trion, hey hasbro! c'mon!
I see the head side things leaking maybe a nova prime?
spaceship!? more like robot painted!
0:47-1:25 DANG IT HASBRO IS DRUNK AGAIN
Cybertron Optimus Retooled mold
baltmatrix what level of tightness is not to loose for your taste.
Lion mode looks like the lion zoid.
it could be repainted and re tooled into Leo breaker and Nemesis Breaker
and the "spaceship" mode kinda reminds me of Tidal Wave from Transformers Armada and Energon
Do they have these stores or can you only get them on the internet.
if you got that off the web it may be a dud or even worse a bootleg so you may want to get one from a shop instead.
Usually a physical product has to be released before you get bootlegs of it.
tere no recorded KOs of te toy line, if tere were, baltmatrix would know about tem
The8bitFreak Bootlegs can't be bought from BBTS.
where in the world did you buy this if it was so messed up
Is this guy actually out in stores right now? Because if You somehow got one early I'd say you probably got a factory reject or something. This particular figure is obviously a lemon.
Victory Leo!
i'd like a repaint as cybertron's Snarl
that was not what mine was it was perfectly fine