Upping The Ante | Episode 9 | Cheltenham Festival 2025 Ante-Post Tips | Racing Post

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

Комментарии • 137

  • @DaveyB-q8i
    @DaveyB-q8i 7 дней назад +18

    Brilliant show..Thanks Johnny Dineen for brightening up this freezing cold week .. Perfect antidote to Cabin Fever and not forgetting Dave Jennings who makes this the perfect duo.. Roll on next week as it gets better every week ..😀👍

  • @thomascooper1144
    @thomascooper1144 7 дней назад +34

    JD clearly not a Harry Potter fan, absolutely butchered Draco Malfoy lol.

  • @NinjaSquirrel30
    @NinjaSquirrel30 7 дней назад +14

    Happy new year Johnny and David
    And fellow horse racing fans 🏇

  • @JoeNorrisTips
    @JoeNorrisTips 6 дней назад +1

    Love this show 🙌🏻

  • @Gmfacre31
    @Gmfacre31 6 дней назад +1

    Great start to 2025 ,listening to the boys ,Johnny on fire as per👍☘️🏇🏇🏇

  • @alankeane5595
    @alankeane5595 7 дней назад +5

    Great crack again brighton up any Tuesday evening,

  • @jimmy229
    @jimmy229 7 дней назад +4

    Got some fit of laughter when DJ started off. Brilliant men. Pay Johnny nwhat he wanty for next seasoy racing post

  • @BigShug-e2k
    @BigShug-e2k 7 дней назад +2

    Only reason I subscribe to the post great entertainment

  • @cjdale9149
    @cjdale9149 6 дней назад +2

    How many players on a team?
    A load of them 😂😂😂😂😂 we love you jonny ❤

  • @grahamwilshaw3507
    @grahamwilshaw3507 7 дней назад +9

    Question from the crowd. Explain to me logically how Banbridge went from 33/1 yesterday to 14/1 today for the GC when all that happened was there was entries revealed. Banbridge is entered in the QM and Ryanair also.
    Antepost is dead 😡

    • @BURRRRPPPPPOOP
      @BURRRRPPPPPOOP 6 дней назад

      It’s not dead, here’s a double antepost each way cracker, state man 11-1, Gerri colombe 12-1, nothing wrong with that

  • @DansDollars
    @DansDollars 7 дней назад +4

    Good evening. Another week closer 😊

  • @grahamwilshaw3507
    @grahamwilshaw3507 7 дней назад +5

    Spot on Johnny with the initial comment on yards in and out of form. That first race in Naas had the Henry de B 2 x Mares first and second fav and the Willie M 3 x Mares next in the market. Willies 3 finish 1-2-3 and Henry's run stink. Make it make sense.

  • @gusyonok9950
    @gusyonok9950 5 дней назад

    Johnny is so entertaining. Few weeks ago he told us that all Nichols' horses were rubbish. Now suddenly, he's got a potential superstar!! Also, the whole premise of this series is long-term ante post betting, but here we are approaching mid January and JD is still maintaining "it's too early. Wait until the DRF!!". Got to love the guy!!

  • @garybnlr
    @garybnlr 7 дней назад +2

    Cheers lads.. happy new year to yous

  • @connorsmith3768
    @connorsmith3768 6 дней назад +1

    Top show as always lads. I’d be amazed if both Lossiemouth and Brighterdaysahead ran in the champion Hurdle, one of them will 100% run in the mares.

    • @robertwilliamson9576
      @robertwilliamson9576 6 дней назад

      I think it’ll be Lossiemouth myself. Looks like she needed further at Kempton

  • @EamonKelly-e3w
    @EamonKelly-e3w 6 дней назад +3

    Question from the crowd. Is the Cheltenham bumper the catalyst for turning the next comings into busted flushes. Other than Cue Card and maybe Envoi zAllen I can't think of any winners that have achieved . So many potential wonder horses who appear to have done too much. The O. Leary's rarely run their good horses as they seem to think that they get bottomed out.

    • @chimp0
      @chimp0 6 дней назад

      Not sure about recently but best mate won a Cheltenham bumper, 3 weeks later won a hurdle

    • @johnsonkevin1
      @johnsonkevin1 6 дней назад

      ​@chimp0 Best Mate won a bumper at Cheltenham, but not the Champion Bumper.
      He used a bumper for what they are designed to do. Give a horse an education then crack on with their job of jumping.
      The Champion Bumper is the most pointless race in the calender. A complete waste of a season for the horses.
      Besides Florida Pearl, Cue Card and maybe Envoi Allen nothing has gone on from this race.
      It was originally brought into the festival to help the Irish get winners.
      It is not needed any more.

    • @BURRRRPPPPPOOP
      @BURRRRPPPPPOOP 6 дней назад

      So what, it’s just another race for horses, who cares if they don’t make it at top level, I don’t understand the criticism?

    • @johnsonkevin1
      @johnsonkevin1 6 дней назад

      @BURRRRPPPPPOOP Ì know it might be very hard for you to understand, but as you get older you will

    • @thomdidikai3323
      @thomdidikai3323 6 дней назад

      Agree, as do many. Pointless race. Go back to 3 days of top class jumping

  • @martinflavell3045
    @martinflavell3045 7 дней назад

    nice one lads. another great episode!

  • @alanlowater158
    @alanlowater158 6 дней назад +1

    Hi both, great show ad always, can you help please? I've noticed Ed that Kaid Dauthie does not have an entry for the Supreme, does this mean he won't run there or could he be supplemented? Cash out is available.

    • @johnsonkevin1
      @johnsonkevin1 6 дней назад

      Supreme entries are normally at the end of January.

    • @alanlowater158
      @alanlowater158 6 дней назад

      @johnsonkevin1 Many thanks, if you go on the RP website and select the horse and then future entries dozens come up but not Kaid but he appears to have an entry for the Turners? Might have cased out too soon then! 🤔

  • @gurney2931
    @gurney2931 5 дней назад +1

    Johnny is a star.

  • @JohnDunne71
    @JohnDunne71 6 дней назад +1

    To make the Fallon Sherrick analogy right she'd need to have 4 darts as an allowance

  • @johnoflaherty9105
    @johnoflaherty9105 6 дней назад +1

    At 20/1, I am happy to be with The Yellow Clay.

  • @gurney2931
    @gurney2931 6 дней назад +1

    I'm not big on American Football but can see where Johnny is coming from re the Superbowl. I'm not big on Formula 1 either but for me it would be the Superbowl or the Monaco Grand Prix.

  • @kevinhasnip6170
    @kevinhasnip6170 7 дней назад

    great show lads as always and johnny is right it has to be coca cola over pepsi

  • @Kevin-lf4xx
    @Kevin-lf4xx 7 дней назад

    I would have thought in this day and age that racing would have developed a much more sophisticated frost covering to prevent the frost getting into the ground. Obviously with rain and courses being flooded there isn’t much that can be done.

  • @HamidbacchusHamid
    @HamidbacchusHamid 7 дней назад

    Happy New Johnny

  • @davidheffer451
    @davidheffer451 7 дней назад +1

    J j Slevin will have his big day in the sun when Intense Raffles wins the Grand National

  • @johnoflaherty9105
    @johnoflaherty9105 6 дней назад +1

    Lossiemouth did not run until January 2024 (last season).

  • @HamidbacchusHamid
    @HamidbacchusHamid 7 дней назад

    Hey Johnny and David I love to see daly herse tip

  • @davidfreeman9042
    @davidfreeman9042 7 дней назад +2

    jennings wants to have definite runner then picks a NR tomorrow

  • @anthonyfieldhouse9691
    @anthonyfieldhouse9691 7 дней назад +1

    Got to give a meeting every chance of going ahead.

    • @colinboden641
      @colinboden641 7 дней назад +2

      Ok to mention people at home watching but how about trainers/owners travelling long distances and called off last minute? Cost of travel, time etc needs to be factored in. Without them there's nothing to watch.

    • @anthonyfieldhouse9691
      @anthonyfieldhouse9691 6 дней назад

      @@colinboden641 No win situation

  • @patdiggin7053
    @patdiggin7053 7 дней назад +1

    "An absolute gennett "😂 what does it mean? Classic 😂

    • @malalala691
      @malalala691 7 дней назад +1

      “Ginnit” ….. is an animal who’s father is a donkey and its mother is a horse

    • @thomdidikai3323
      @thomdidikai3323 6 дней назад

      ​@@malalala691thanks haha

  • @chrisgraham9778
    @chrisgraham9778 6 дней назад

    Thanks lads enjoyed the craic. Glad I'm not a member of dj's family with those kinda of Christmas presents.

  • @gurney2931
    @gurney2931 6 дней назад

    Mullins 4 or less winners at Cheltenham was 14s with Hills but chopped to 12s.

  • @Micheal-s3y
    @Micheal-s3y 6 дней назад

    If you have the mares hurdle at the january Cheltenham meeting then the top mares would go for the champion and would Benifit the race

  • @liamfirkin2145
    @liamfirkin2145 7 дней назад +4

    Jonny’s first bet always seems to be a stinker. He should stop having that one.

    • @tonymurray814
      @tonymurray814 7 дней назад

      Yea, he should have his second bet first!!😉

  • @Irishorseracing_tips2023
    @Irishorseracing_tips2023 6 дней назад

    Completely agree with JD regarding the commentary - even worse on RTE they drop the mic to a racing expert( i.e. an ex jockey who are by far the worst pundits-McCoy; Harvey; Fitzy ; Mcnamara -to name but a few) and they are talking with 2 fences to jump what horse is going the best- makes a mockery of the viewer - we can see exactly the same thing

  • @droots2007
    @droots2007 6 дней назад

    If the mares hurdle was made a 155/156 limit then they’d be better off removing it completely.

  • @michaelmulhall5007
    @michaelmulhall5007 6 дней назад +2

    Townend is not better than slevin put them on the same level of horse every day and see what happens. Say the same about Kennedy anytime he is on the same level of horse as Paul he has his pants down. 1. Kennedy 2. Slevin if you know what you’re actually looking at and 3. Townend . Entertaining show but DJ is a awful judge of horse racing for someone working in the industry time and time again he calls so many things wrong

  • @stevens9996
    @stevens9996 6 дней назад

    I can commiserate with Johnny over Fact To File. He is going to be unlucky, but not as unlucky as myself. I thought the intermediate trip was his best option at the start of the season so on at much bigger than 15/2 for the Ryanair. That is so obviously where he should be going, but he won't. He is 6/4NRNB for the Ryanair which is reflective of his chance. He can't win a Gold Cup, but he can win a Ryanair. Think back to last year he was favourite for the Turners, and that is where he should have run, but they parachuted in the much inferior Iroko, at the last minute, stuffing up anyone who had been on for the shorter race. This year they will do similar with the inferior Spillane's Tower. His one entry was the nail in the coffin to this bet. I just read some Racing Post clown saying Fact To File would finish closer in a Gold Cup, but with no explanation. Why should he? Far more likely he is going to finish (much) further behind. He is no certainty to finish second, or even place. Mullins will no doubt be all bull about how he can 'tame' him, as he did with Galopin Des Champs, but they are two different horses. One is a strong stayer, the other just isn't. Mullins has already shown how clueless he can be regarding trips in respect of Ballyburn. Champion Hurdler? Very strange to me that Inothewayurthinkin wasn't given a Gold Cup entry. Ran in two Gold Cup trials and improved on his first run. A strong stayer, and could easily be a different proposition in the Spring.

  • @prometheus9715
    @prometheus9715 6 дней назад

    Enjoy the show. I'm a big fan of DJ following those tips that are hes not those who he's told to push. JD 4/11 naps, odds on tips, yes, great entertainment but a tipster.

  • @Andy-y7y
    @Andy-y7y 6 дней назад

    So JD wasn’t impressed by Ile Atlantique this week ?

  • @scottwheeler9786
    @scottwheeler9786 6 дней назад

    Jonny Boy 🙌

  • @Imastatman
    @Imastatman 7 дней назад +1

    Well done, david with the profit....Johnny is struggling at the moment. Hopefully, he can turn it around for the charity........come on, Johnny, get your finger out.....

  • @robertwilliamson9576
    @robertwilliamson9576 6 дней назад

    Johnny spot about it needs to be Coca Cola 👍🏼

  • @thomdidikai3323
    @thomdidikai3323 6 дней назад

    Jordans seems a nice type

  • @johnoflaherty9105
    @johnoflaherty9105 6 дней назад

    Agree Hello Neighbour very short now (surprisingly)

  • @JamesMarson-b9m
    @JamesMarson-b9m 6 дней назад

    I putting up the forgotten horse El FABIOLO around 16/1 for the champion chase when he wins at the D R festival what price will he be then he can beat Jonbon and he 4 times the price

  • @alexbailey6312
    @alexbailey6312 6 дней назад

    Bang on JD...a story aint required during commentary...itv fella take note

  • @michaeloriordan20
    @michaeloriordan20 6 дней назад

    I don’t understand the Hello Neighbour disrespect. First run over hurdles straight into a G2 and wins.

  • @thomdidikai3323
    @thomdidikai3323 6 дней назад

    Don't worry DJ we know. ,,,,....the show was full of laughs but Doddiethegreat was a never ordinary joke of the week

  • @DarlaBirkenhead
    @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад +1

    Ground, distance, course configuration an last winning mark should be the first ports of call when evaluating chance in a horse race. Definitely not jockey or trainer

    • @shaunoconnor1979
      @shaunoconnor1979 7 дней назад

      By far the first thing u look at is the form of the trainer

    • @DarlaBirkenhead
      @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад

      @shaunoconnor1979 that's why I lapped up the 2.56 on constitution hill at Christmas lovely job. In fact ye trainer form 👌

    • @johndonnelly3135
      @johndonnelly3135 7 дней назад

      @@DarlaBirkenhead I’m afraid that rule 101 of betting at a profit “last winning mark” as you have highlighted perfectly will go over the head of the 99% plus who bet at loss on here. They will forever fall for the bullshite the likes of Bet365 paid lackey Dineen feeds them. Refreshing to see a contributor who actually knows how to bet at a profit.

    • @johndonnelly3135
      @johndonnelly3135 7 дней назад +1

      @@shaunoconnor1979 people who follow a trainer or jockey have absolutely no chance of betting at a profit. You need an edge to bet at a profit and the betting industry will shave the odds of trainers and jockeys they know people follow blindly giving them the edge.

    • @johndonnelly3135
      @johndonnelly3135 6 дней назад

      @@DarlaBirkenhead what a silly comment, you didn’t back Constitution Hill because he’s trained by Nicky Henderson you backed him because he’s the best 2m hurdler around. Did you back the 13 loser’s from 15 runners Nicky had before that race?

  • @DarlaBirkenhead
    @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад

    D Jacob rode loads of winners in the double green 😂😂come on Johnny mate

    • @tomgallagher7870
      @tomgallagher7870 7 дней назад

      I think the reaction to william munny finishing second was too big.first run over hurdles and kept at it miles back to the rest still think hes a player in the supreme.if they stay over hurdles thomas mor in the pertemps at 25/1 is a cracking bet his form is good.

    • @DarlaBirkenhead
      @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад +2

      @tomgallagher7870 if you look in behind in the grade 1s over in Ireland u will find urself a handicap winner. I liked supersundae in the lawlors didn't look like he enjoyed the ground. But remember better ground at Cheltenham

    • @DarlaBirkenhead
      @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад

      He also dropped in the exchanges from 16 to 7.2 at the off. At this was In a 5/6 minute period which is also something to note

    • @tomgallagher7870
      @tomgallagher7870 7 дней назад +1

      ​@@DarlaBirkenheadthere was alot to take over the few days.few ill be keeping an eye on backtonormal over fences and last years boodles winner lark in the morning ran an eye catching race and has a nice mark.really like kotail divin for henry what a run that was .

    • @DarlaBirkenhead
      @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад +1

      U can't be backing everything, supersundae in something like the County hurdle on goodish ground on the new course will do for me pal 👍, see what Mark they give it first I'm suspecting he is a 145 rated hurdler in my opinion. See what the English handicapper gives him and what odds he is when the weights come out

  • @scottwheeler9786
    @scottwheeler9786 6 дней назад

    Its not just Jasmin De Vaux , look at mullins novice hurdlers there must b atleast 10 so far what jump like a fridge & the list is growing , the amnution he has trevor wall would of had the same stats , just look at the skelton horses absoltuley schooled to perfection.
    And wherever The Yellow Clay rocks up if its good to soft he'll go & win still not seen the best of him & thanks to v h'capper for feckin up the NH Chase for Shannon Royale

  • @Imastatman
    @Imastatman 5 дней назад

    Brighterdaysahead should go mare's this year. Champion next. Than chaser after in my opinion......
    Wouldn't beat con hill or Lossiemouth......but gluk all

  • @stevens9996
    @stevens9996 5 дней назад

    I see the Racing Post are splashing the Lulamba bet everywhere as if Jennings has some sort of credibility as ante-post tipster. I think everyone can see it's a pure connections dart. Without those connections it's a 20/1+ shot. No surprise if the same people who backed Willy De Houelle are involved again. Quite big connections there, and that hasn't turned out too well. It's pure guesswork as to the value of the form. Not mentioned, but at times his jumping wasn't very good at all.

  • @YorkshireRed2884
    @YorkshireRed2884 5 дней назад

    The new lion looks a certainty there's not much coming from the Irish so far

  • @Ian4Mackie
    @Ian4Mackie 7 дней назад

    CLOCKMAKER N/R

  • @jacob4690
    @jacob4690 7 дней назад

    Stable form/bug in the yard is the biggest excuse of all time to me as johnny says one day horses are fine the next day some are beaten easy trainers just can’t admit they made a mistake and the horse ran badly instead try to blame some made up bug

  • @JohnDunne71
    @JohnDunne71 6 дней назад

    Sick of the mares debate. The best mares DO go for the top races when it's a goer. Epatante, Honeysuckle, Annie Power, PutTheKettleOn all ran in and won championship races when they had a realistic chance. Honeysuckle had no chance against Con Hill and would have been forced to run there instead of having a memorable send off. Ridiculous argument

    • @jackdineen8983
      @jackdineen8983 6 дней назад

      Honeysuckle ran in the mares hurdle as opposed to running against epatante in a champion hurdle. Annie power would not have run in the champion hurdle only for faugheen being injured. Put the kettle on had no mares chase to run in as it didn’t exist and epatante ran in the mares hurdle when she was no longer a force. You are talking rubbish

    • @JohnDunne71
      @JohnDunne71 6 дней назад

      @jackdineen8983 The point I'm making is they ran in the championship races when they had realistic chances and in the lesser races when they didn't. Surely that's acceptable

    • @JohnDunne71
      @JohnDunne71 6 дней назад

      @jackdineen8983 Also Putthekettleon won the Champion chase in 2021 when there was a mares chase. It just seems to me that they DO go for the races when there's a realistic chance of winning them

    • @jackdineen8983
      @jackdineen8983 6 дней назад +1

      I get what you mean about the realistic chance bit , but after saying that Lossiemouth had to have a great chance in last years champion hurdle and didn’t turn up. Quevega never once ran in proper championship race yet did so regularly at Punchestown ( with much success ) . Put the kettle on was an arkle winner so the automatic race for her quite rightly was the champion chase. Annie power would never have run in a champion hurdle only for faugheen being injured. Elite mares should contest the elite races in my book because they are not very plentiful and should line up in the big events. If they fail to win them so what , because ultimately they will gain more respect than the ones who could have faced the starter but won the egg and spoon race instead

    • @JohnDunne71
      @JohnDunne71 6 дней назад +1

      @jackdineen8983 Ah mate. You know what? i actually think we're more in agreement than not and ultimately as fans we just want the best product. You're spot on with your examples and only supports what I mean that the correct decision is usually made given the circumstances at the time. Quevega as you correctly point out is a glaring standout. Surely she could have taken on the boys in at least 1 of her 6 years without negatively effecting her legacy. She may even have enhanced it as she did at Punchestown. Again as you correctly point out.
      Aren't we lucky as fans though to have this situation. Maybe too early for the chasers but in the Champion hurdle we've had a significant contender and often winner from the mares every year for a decade unlike the 80s and 90s (I can't remember further back) and this has to be due to the extended mares programme. I will add that I agree with the point that it should be Grade 2. This would only add to the achievements of those mares that do it and enhance their standing not to mention encourage even more to have a go.
      My only frustration is I think the issue is far less of a problem than the column inches given to it lead us to believe.
      That said I love this podcast and a good racing discussion so thanks for replying. .Take care and here's to a memorable 2nd half of the season 🐎 🤜🤛

  • @jacob4690
    @jacob4690 7 дней назад

    Concertista was 9/2

    • @Pmrace1960
      @Pmrace1960 7 дней назад +1

      i backed it 12s on the monday....maybe he is thinking of her earlier 2nd at a massive price but i dont think darryl rode it that day

    • @jacob4690
      @jacob4690 7 дней назад

      @ he is

    • @bendavies4326
      @bendavies4326 7 дней назад

      @@Pmrace1960it was Townend mate, I had her in a few ante post multiples. Had a few left to run and was adamant I was gonna cash out after she won.

    • @Pmrace1960
      @Pmrace1960 6 дней назад

      @@bendavies4326 jacobs rode it when it won at cheltenham and danny mullins rode it when it was 2nd at 66\1 i year before...townend rode it when it was 2nd at 10\11 in 2021 and when she was 5th in 2022 at 2\1

    • @bendavies4326
      @bendavies4326 6 дней назад

      @@Pmrace1960 I meant the Townend one. Travelling so well, went on a bit, Black Tears I think it was got back up

  • @stevens9996
    @stevens9996 7 дней назад +3

    I don't know how they can keep a straight face when they put up these ante-post darts.

    • @cathalcrehan2852
      @cathalcrehan2852 7 дней назад +3

      Give us a winner so Steven if you’re the expert!

    • @TimComley
      @TimComley 7 дней назад

      @@cathalcrehan2852he won’t do that all mouth no trousers

    • @johndonnelly3135
      @johndonnelly3135 7 дней назад

      I don’t know how they keep a straight face when they put anything up, the big hint for the clown’s is written clearly in between them, Bet365 paying Johnny the clown to provide winners is a bit like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

    • @cathalcrehan2852
      @cathalcrehan2852 7 дней назад

      @ why you watching it so😂😂

    • @johndonnelly3135
      @johndonnelly3135 7 дней назад

      @ for the same reason I watch only fools and horses, it’s comedy gold to watch and hilarious reading the bet a loss Clowns comment’s. I hope that has helped you understand why I watch it.

  • @DarlaBirkenhead
    @DarlaBirkenhead 7 дней назад +1

    Trainer form is only to be considered it the calculation comes close on weights to measure, like jockey bookings are only to be considered if its close. Eg. If cobden was on horse a and say kielan woods was on horse b I would only consider that 2/3 pound at best to the horse cobden is on

  • @daraboi
    @daraboi 7 дней назад +3

    Galopin des Champs be beat handy lads

    • @Bernard-p5o
      @Bernard-p5o 7 дней назад +4

      Behave yourself ffs

    • @BitcoinMoney8
      @BitcoinMoney8 7 дней назад

      ​@@Bernard-p5owho beats him? I can't see one for the life of me.

    • @Pmrace1960
      @Pmrace1960 7 дней назад +2

      @@BitcoinMoney8 i agree most likely winner think the value probably gerri columbe e\w

    • @BitcoinMoney8
      @BitcoinMoney8 7 дней назад

      @@Pmrace1960 agree. Unless fact to file gets much much closer at the DRF

  • @jerrysartain2539
    @jerrysartain2539 7 дней назад +2

    These 2 had NO WINNERSl last year and these choices are worse!

  • @Webster882
    @Webster882 7 дней назад +1

    how on earth do these two not know who draco malfoy is, and how to say it therefore, madness

    • @jackdineen8983
      @jackdineen8983 7 дней назад +2

      I’ve only since learned he was a character in Harry Potter . Must admit I’m not familiar with him or his compatriots

    • @Dave-wh3hw
      @Dave-wh3hw 6 дней назад

      Maybe they're not interested in Harry Potter books and films.

  • @paulyarwood4933
    @paulyarwood4933 7 дней назад

    its pronounced -dray co malfoy it a character from harry potter

  • @jerrysartain2539
    @jerrysartain2539 7 дней назад

    Dumb and dumber

    • @Pmrace1960
      @Pmrace1960 7 дней назад +1

      i watch the show for the crack...think its great.........i never take anyone elses opinion on board ...if you are watching these shows for tips its time you took up another hobby....i suggest knitting...

    • @WilliamMcmanus-k3j
      @WilliamMcmanus-k3j 7 дней назад

      Agree johnny great craic says it as it is

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 7 дней назад

      ​@@Pmrace1960if you bet horse you would rathet watch a show that gives winners even if its boring.but we all are different i dont think thry are entertaining and they also pi k duffers

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 7 дней назад

      Paul nichols well out of form