I thought exactly the same thing at that point in the video. When the sandmen missed, they were just being cruel. They did it on purpose like a cat playing with a mouse.
In the novel, there was different ammunition for different circumstances. For dispatching "runners", there was the "homer", which was a heat-seeking charge. It didn't tend to miss, so there wouldn't have been much shooting; just "BANG", then the runner dying. Not good for sci-fi action, so they changed the guns. (The guns' charges were an interesting study in the callousness of that society..."Tangler", "Ripper", "Nitro", "Needler", "Vapor", and "Homer"...)
I have always interpreted the early chase scene with the Sandmen and the runner as the Sandmen playing with the runner. They were not missing they were toying. I think you might agree if you watch the scene with that idea.
In the novelization, Box is a human sex offender/serial killer turned into a cyborg as punishment, whose memory wipe doesn't quite change his personality entirely.
1) To this day, I have a total *thing* for Jenny Agutter! When she popped up in the Captain America movie I cheered! 2) I was so-so on the book. The fact that no one raised the kids made it impossible for them to suddenly become all "peace and love" at 14. 3) I will pay for that deleted scene! :)
Quite ingenious on Jerry Goldsmith’s part to have the score shift from a synthesizer laden score to a traditional orchestral based one as the action leaves the Dome city for the natural world outside it.
@@jerrypadilla4384 You’re welcome. I’m very fond of Jerry Goldsmith’s inventiveness and versatility. His score to “Planet of the Apes” is still incredibly fresh and avant-garde even after over a half century.
Great film! I got to meet Farrah when I was 5 in Indian Wells, CA. 1977. She had been playing tennis there and I went up to her and asked if I could give her a hug. She said, "I'll come back after my match." She did and she picked me up and hugged me. Pretty cool!
I remember seeing this as a kid on a sunday afternoon when they'd just have movies on randomly, it was surprising as it wasn't censored at all and this was the early 1980s.
You didn't see the same movie if you think Sandmen were bad shots...they were playing with their prey... This gave them even more character as it showed their sadistic behavior, that they enjoyed it, before killing them !!!...RUN...RUNNER...!!! From the first encounter, they made a sick game of it! Another great Hero's Journey of a movie
To be honest, the Sandmen were missing their targets on purpose as they had a bit of sadistic fun making the Runners jump about, punctuated by laughter.
There's a lot of truth to that. Lines that would be considered "throwaway" indicate that the sandmen looked at it as a sport rather than a job, and wanted a challenge (to some extent).
Excellent presentation! I saw this movie in 1976 in the theater during its opening run - with my girlfriend. Just loved it. A fond memory. The deeply saturated colors, the costumes, the flame pistols, and the amazing set pieces and FX - really made an impression on my pre _Star Wars_ brain. Dialog a little creaky here and there - and that is especially true when watching today. I think Box the Robot had the most memorable and quotable line in the whole movie: "Fish, and plankton, sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here - fresh as harvest day!" Sometimes I say this when I'm at the grocery store with my wife - and she asks me what's on the shopping list. I make sure to wave my arm out as though I'm saying "Behold" when I get to the "It's all here / harvest day" part. 🙂
Thank you for this great video on one of my all time favorite movies. The escapism of this movie and the surreal effect it had on 10 or 11 year old me is hard to describe. It really just overwhelmed my senses and took me out of my drab world into one of color and excitement. I'm not sure any film is capable of that anymore since we all have so many colorful and engaging sensory distractions now. But in that time we still had a lot of long and slow and quiet child hood days and seeing a movie like Logan's Run could stay with you for months!
One of my favorite sci-fi movies. I particularly liked the old man character played by Mr. Ustinov. I liked the movie's references to the T. S. Elliot book Old Possum's Book... When my wife and me were dating in early 1980's we frequently lunched at a coffee shop on 44th Street near 6th Ave in NYC. Just down the street from the Algonquin Hotel. Once after lunch, we walked down the street and saw Mr. Ustinov exiting the hotel and tryin' to hail a cab, I asked if he needed help and he said yes. I ran out in the street and stopped a cab, screechin' brake's-n-all. As I open the taxi door for him he shook my hand and said thank you. I met Peter Ustinov!
I did read somewhere that the death age of 21 was changed to 30 because of the difficulty of getting the right actors to play the parts of such young leads.
The Sandmen were not "missing", they were toying with terrified Runners. Nothing quite like a near miss to get the ol' heart pumping and urine flowing, eh? RUNNER!!!
Loved "Logan's Run". Hollyweird would mess it up if they decided to 'Remake' it. Really enjoy your 'Behind the Scenes' Videos - please keep them coming. If you are looking for ideas, how about "The Wild, Wild, West" Starring Robert Conrad & Ross Martin??? Your Title could be - "Whatever Happened to that Amazing Train?!" I always wanted to see James West teamed-up with the Lone Ranger & Zorro, but that never materialized - TV Executives had NO IMAGINATION back then, lol!!! Stay Motivated.
One of my all-time favorites! Especially compared to what we get now-a-days masquerading as science fiction! I have and will always love this movie! "Last Day. Capricorn 15's. Year of the City....2274. Carousel begins!"
The DS Sandman blaster is one of my favorite sci fi pieces. I have made a few for my prop collection. Also Jenny Agutter is Stunning. I love Michael York in this. I love the movie with all it's faults. And PG yes, but they did not have PG-13 back then. But even PG-13 might be stretch. Thanks for another great show.
The way you said “Jenny Agutter” reflects exactly how I felt about her at the time. I was probably 10 when I first saw this, and I’m pretty sure she was my first crush.
Hey, Dan. In regards to the Sandmen being lousy shots..at the beginning when they are chasing the 'Runner' from Carousel, they are intentionally missing, toying with him to get him into the open. Then when they succeed in drawing him out, their shots are right on target. And when Logan and Francis are firing at each other they intentionally miss because they are friends and can't bring themselves to kill each other. [Francis himself makes this statement] So when Logan HAS to kill him to stop him, his shot is dead on. Also when Francis 'terminates' the female fugitive in the cathedral, he is dead on target. And the Marvel comics series adapted the movie in the first six issues, with No#7 starting the adaptation of the 'Logan's World' novel, but the series was cancelled because sci-fi comics just weren't popular at the time. Also Director Michael Anderson has a cameo in the film as the surgeon performing the 'New You' procedure on Logan.
I was a floor covering installer in 1983. The crew I was with spent several months in the Dallas Apparel Mart in the World Trade Center recovering the floors, about 20,000 yards of carpet. That's when I learned about parts of Logan's Run having been filmed there. The Great Hall was really impressive. I say "was" because the Apparel Mart was torn down in 2004(?) to make room for a larger building. The Fort Worth Water Gardens was also mentioned. I've visited it. Still there and still impressive.
The extra in the ending scene doing the Vulcan salute is one of my best friends. His mother was owner of Wyse Talent Agency in Dallas and got him the part. That scene was filmed at the Forth Worth water gardens.
I'm from the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Our community was always so proud of this film. I kissed my 1st boy and got high at the Fort Worth Water Gardens. 😁
Lifetime Logan's Run fan. The day I finally was going to see the fountain, somebody from Chicago had drown in it. I wanted to stand on the edge and shout: "You can live...LIVE!!!" but my girlfriend wouldn't let me.
In the mid 80s i had the opportunity to purchase one of the guns. They used calcium carbide and water to make acetylene gas. And a battery heated wire for combustion. I miss the days when movie props could be found at Sci-fi conventions.
@@kevink9938 I'd bought collectables from him before and after that. He wanted $250-300 for it. My limit for the weekend was half that. There were several pieces I had to pass on over the years. Found out over a decade later, my husband worked for him in highschool and college. Small world.
Saw it at an outdoor theater that unfortunately, no longer exists. Man I miss the Drive In. This movie was massive fun. Even Box. The scene where they meet Peter Ustinov and his cats.....Classic, and a nice contrast to the movies overall darker theme. One of my favorites. Oh, yeah, the costumes....whew!!!! Oh ****. The Omega Man! The 70's was a great time to be a teenager.
Jessica (Jenny Agutter) was my first love as a teenager watching this film. Today, at 60, I would still marry her. Farrah was really appealing but, the sex appeal goes to Jenny/Jessica.
Dan, the idea of dying at 30 in the movie made perfect sense given the counterculture mantra of the '70's to never trust anyone over 30. I thought Logan's Run was great sci-fi and also very much enjoyed the costumes, too. The scenes in the Love Shack are the reason why you bought VCRs that could be paused, advanced frame by frame and run videos in slow-motion. 😍 You mentioned that nowadays we have an app for hooking up with someone for sex like Tinder. The Logan's Run version of Tinder was called the "Circuit" and that's how Logan (Michael York) hooked up with Jessica (Jenny Agutter). From what I understood , Carousel was a ritual that everyone turning 30 had to go through in which they had a chance to have their life clock "renewed" (reset back to zero years elapsed). However, Logan began to question the arrangement when Francis casually asked him, "Why do people run? Why don't they take their chances like everyone else in Carousel?" Logan replied, "Have you ever met anyone who was renewed because I haven't." I also read the book after watching the flick and the big difference with the book is that Sanctuary was a place that actually existed (albeit on another planet) whereas in the film, everyone who tried to make it there got frozen by Box. The scenes with the "Old Man" played by Peter Ustinov was a favorite of mine because I'm a cat lover and the Old Man was taking care of dozens and dozens of abandoned cats running around the Capitol Building. He said that cats have three names: one name that cat owners call them; another name that cats know other cats by, and a third "secret" name that only an individual cat knows what it is.
Loved this movie. I remember going to the theater when it was released, saw it half a dozen times. Still love the movie and have my own DVD. All I have to say is Jenny!
Saw it in the theater. Logans Run was about a year before Star Wars. Had to write a review of it for my high school English class. Still have the comic books!
I do!! For the class, we had to watch a movie every week and do a review. At the end of the term, the teacher had put them into a pee-chee (remember those?) and returned them to us. I put it in a closet and it was still in my Mom's house!
I think Jenny Agutter had it written into her contract that she had to get naked in every movie she was in. She also got naked in Equus and Walkabout. I suspect Nastassja Kinski had a similar clause in her contract.
Haha! One of my favorite memories as a child was taking over the family room for about a week to do my own reproduction of the cityscape. It was made with the various construction toys I had growing up, so it was this amalgamation of Legos, Tinker Toys, Lincoln Logs, and Girdlers and Panels sets, dressed up with paper facades that looked like they were from the movie. Speaking of that design aesthetic, I've often wondered if the designer of Denver International Airport wasn't a fan of the movie...
The main reason I wanted to see Logan's Run was I had a crush on Jenny Agutter ever since I saw her in the 1971 movie Walkabout, it remains one of my favourite SCi-Fi movies. It is, in my opinion, a little dated by today's standards and even in 1976 I found the acting a bit off but there was enough action and Jenny Agutter to keep my attention. Peter Ustinov brought much-needed light relief to the movie through his dialogue and acting, especially when his character recites a shortened version of the poem "The Naming of Cats" by T. S. Eliot.
Farrah and I share a great grandmother, so we were second cousins, but I didn't know that when this movie came out. I was 16 and in love with her like all my friends were. Yes, we ALL had the poster! As far as me and my friends were concerned, If you didn't have that poster, there was just something wrong with you. Great times.
So in 1977, when I was 4, I saw the first release of Star Wars at a drive-in. It was a double feature with Logan's Run as the second showing. And while I would love to say that my mind was blown by Star Wars (this would happen a year later when Star Wars was re-released in 1978 and I watched it in a theater), I'm afraid seeing a nekkid Jenny Agutter was. at that formative moment, much more important than anything else I had experienced in my first 4 years. I carried that memory for 46 years until about 2 weeks ago when I purchased Logan's Run and rewatched. I had good taste, even at 4 years old. 😆😆😆
I remember watching an evening news report that said that after a long absence sci-fi was coming back to movie theaters, one a month. It began with Logan's Run and ended with Star Wars.
I was working for a company that made wall art at the time and had a showroom at the Apparel Mart (which is now The World Trade Center in Dallas) and one my pieces appears in the film. I can't remember off the top of my head if it was on the wall in Logan's apartment and can be seen over his shoulder or on the wall in the hallway when he opens the door.
Another scene cut from the final print was near the beginning of the movie, as Francis pursues and terminates a Runner in Arcade. The crowd applauds as Francis makes the kill, and the camera zooms in to the Runner's lifeclock as it goes black. The scene then dissolves into a closeup of a clear lifeclock as the camera pans back out to show one of the new babies in Nursery.
Thank you for another great video. Also, thank you for pointing out the dystopian nature of a lot of sci-fi in the seventies. I remember catching the negativity of many TV shows and movies when I was a kid. I enjoyed the reruns of the original Star Trek, because they were the most positive sci-fi stories at the time.
A couple of the things the movie simply couldn't show was the scope of the civilization. When the book has Logan interacting with the kids on Muscle (think Meth mixed with Epinephrine and instant effect steroids) that was in "the dead zone" several hundred miles from tube linked domed cities.
Big fan of the Logan trilogy of books (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search). I also loved the movie when it came out and now when I re-read the novels it's always Michael York and Jenny Agutter I see in my mind. I'd love to see them do a remake of the movie following the novel more closely, and even then follow it up with Logan's World. The one thing I didn't like about the movie was changing the sandman gun to a simple "blaster" weapon. The six unique charges in the Sandman's revolver was something that made the weapon very versatile and deadly. No missing with a "homer".
When I was a child and watched this (or was it the TV show....??? I can't remember. LOL!) I was amazed at the guns! I loved how they would shoot the flash out the muzzle. It looked so cool. I am glad you mentioned them here.
As a 9 year old...this film blew my mind...saw the film 6 times at my local movie theater...yes... At 9 and 10 yrs old I sometimes had to con my way into buying a ticket to a rated R movie...it was the 70's...what can I say...😁👍😜
I loved the film, being an impressionable teenager back then, and it's definitely a classic in my eyes. Unlike Dan, I quite liked Box, even if it did seem a bit on the flimsy side, probably due to the weirdness of the body shape and head, not to mention the voice. In this respect, the robot just felt 'different', as did the film itself. As for Jenny Agutter, well, what a fine, very attractive actress she was. Michael York was simply perfect for his role, too. This was an ambitious, star-studded film that fully deserves this excellent review, and it certainly brings back some wonderful memories. Thanks a lot, Dan, and greetings from England.
15 year old teenager and walked into the theater for viewing and was Blown Away and being 15 the female outfits were wow, thought that outdoor scene was Malibu Creek (Live in SF. Valley) and yes own the DVD.
Thanks for the look back. I, too, loved this movie when it came out and have owned it in every format: VHS, DVD, Blu Ray and, if you can believe it, CED (Capacitance Electronic Disk), the format that killed RCA. Still have my SelectaVison player and the damn thing still works. I've kept it because it functions with something actually called a "flux capacitor." I really hope they do not ruin Logan's Run with a remake.
Dan, this was one of my favorite films of a lifetime. You're right about comparison to the original book. In fact, William Nolan was an aging hippy who lived in Van Nuys. It was fun, but also telling, seeing Farah in her tiny roll. But then, using Michael Anderson as the doctor was also rather unique. The gigantic waterfall/setting for returning to the city was actually from a beautiful/modern waterfall in the center of the city of Fort Worth). I had the pleasure of seeing it when visiting a relative. Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. p.s. ya, those outfits were totally cool for this youngster-back in 1976! It's still in my Top 5...along with "Somewhere in Time"...oh, please, don't quote roger ebert...or any of those other weirdos...let them try to make movies. Those miniatures were terrific back then! rl
The problem with Box was also that he had reflective surfaces so at some points if you look really carefully you can see the camera crew relected on him. 😄
Jenny Agutter was my young fantasy for a long time. I loved her. When I saw her again in Marvel's Captain America : Winter Soldier I just couldn't believe it. She's still stunning.
So glad you covered Logan's Run that was a great review of one of my favourite movies. While I lived in Fort Worth I had to visit the film locations in DFW and loved that I could walk to the Water Garden from my apartment. I first saw the TV series and cannot wait to see you talk about that too.
My stepdad was director Michael Anderson. Thanks for the love for his movie Logan’s Run.
Then your step-brother was the guy who played 'Doc', right?
@@patricktilton5377 yes Michael Anderson Jr. Is my stepbrother who played Doc.
That's something!
I wish you could thank him for me - this is one of my favorite movies. ❤️
One of my all time favourites. Superb
A lot of Francis' missing seemed to be deliberate as he was playing with the person he was chasing.
I thought exactly the same thing at that point in the video. When the sandmen missed, they were just being cruel. They did it on purpose like a cat playing with a mouse.
As a hormonal teenager I had a difficult time following the story because of the costumes.
So did every teen boy at that time! 😂 Great time to be alive!
@@proto-geek248 yeah, I can see that. That’s a pretty fun observation.
@@grimacres I had the same difficulty a few years prior, age 13, eyes glued to Stella Stevens in “The Poseidon Adventure”.
The thought that I came up with to explain the Sandmen's bad aim was that they were playing a sadistic cat and mouse game with the runners.
I never thought that the sandmen were bad shots, I always thought that they aimed to miss to have more fun.
Indeed.
In the novel, there was different ammunition for different circumstances. For dispatching "runners", there was the "homer", which was a heat-seeking charge. It didn't tend to miss, so there wouldn't have been much shooting; just "BANG", then the runner dying. Not good for sci-fi action, so they changed the guns. (The guns' charges were an interesting study in the callousness of that society..."Tangler", "Ripper", "Nitro", "Needler", "Vapor", and "Homer"...)
Jenny Agutter... man oh man oh man.
And she's been a nun for 13 seasons now.
I have always interpreted the early chase scene with the Sandmen and the runner as the Sandmen playing with the runner. They were not missing they were toying. I think you might agree if you watch the scene with that idea.
In the novelization, Box is a human sex offender/serial killer turned into a cyborg as punishment, whose memory wipe doesn't quite change his personality entirely.
Never knew that! Cool!
That explains a lot.
@@Swindle1984 It wasn’t a “novelization” though-the film was based on a 1967 published original novel.
Jenny Agutter should have gotten an Oscar just for her lack of costume.
A long time ago, I thought a remake would be cool but not anymore with today's Hollywood and politics. I wouldn't watch a remake. I love Logan's Run.
1) To this day, I have a total *thing* for Jenny Agutter! When she popped up in the Captain America movie I cheered!
2) I was so-so on the book. The fact that no one raised the kids made it impossible for them to suddenly become all "peace and love" at 14.
3) I will pay for that deleted scene! :)
Haha :-) me too. My wife and I are in London quite a bit and I keep trying to locate her. One of these days I'm going to get her :-) cheers, Dan
Her acting performance in LR, as well as, "An American Werewolf in London", was A-1 Top Notch.
I always thought the sandmen were toying with the runners when shooting at them, giving them false hope of escape.
that was exactly it
Yup 100%
Quite ingenious on Jerry Goldsmith’s part to have the score shift from a synthesizer laden score to a traditional orchestral based one as the action leaves the Dome city for the natural world outside it.
@michaelschramm1064 Thank you, for pointing this out. Many people miss this nuance, in the film.
@@jerrypadilla4384 You’re welcome. I’m very fond of Jerry Goldsmith’s inventiveness and versatility. His score to “Planet of the Apes” is still incredibly fresh and avant-garde even after over a half century.
@michaelschramm1064
Funny, I too, am a fan of his works, too.
"Fish! And plankton! And sea-greens! And protein from the sea!
...They stopped coming, and the others started...
...It's my job...to FREEZE YOU!"
“OVERWHELMING!! AM I NOT?!!”
@@stephanielaurenbounds4958 "MY BIRDS! MY BIRDS!!!"
10:39 - Damn indeed. Jessica was pretty spectacular. She kind of defines that "eyes you can get lost in" thing.
Great film! I got to meet Farrah when I was 5 in Indian Wells, CA. 1977. She had been playing tennis there and I went up to her and asked if I could give her a hug. She said, "I'll come back after my match." She did and she picked me up and hugged me. Pretty cool!
Mmmm, sweaty Farrah.
@@CraftAeroPossibly, but I don't remember that being the case.
@@CreativeWarrior- That's ok.
In my "memory" she was. 🤩
@@CraftAeroYour version sounds more fun.
the Sandman were not bad shots, they were sadistically torturing the runner.
Yeah, I was just going for more of a comedic statement on that one.
I remember seeing this as a kid on a sunday afternoon when they'd just have movies on randomly, it was surprising as it wasn't censored at all and this was the early 1980s.
Ah,those were the days…
You didn't see the same movie if you think Sandmen were bad shots...they were playing with their prey...
This gave them even more character as it showed their sadistic behavior, that they enjoyed it, before killing them
!!!...RUN...RUNNER...!!! From the first encounter, they made a sick game of it!
Another great Hero's Journey of a movie
I'm 54 and saw Logans Run on VHS is the mid 80s. Oddly, the older I grow, the more accurate it feels. Thank you US healthcare.
In defense of Francis 7, he was toying with the runner, shooting near him to taunt him. He was missing on purpose.
1:41 I think you mean "Where dystopian societies masquerade as some weird utopia" as opposed to the other way around.
To be honest, the Sandmen were missing their targets on purpose as they had a bit of sadistic fun making the Runners jump about, punctuated by laughter.
There's a lot of truth to that. Lines that would be considered "throwaway" indicate that the sandmen looked at it as a sport rather than a job, and wanted a challenge (to some extent).
Excellent presentation! I saw this movie in 1976 in the theater during its opening run - with my girlfriend. Just loved it. A fond memory. The deeply saturated colors, the costumes, the flame pistols, and the amazing set pieces and FX - really made an impression on my pre _Star Wars_ brain. Dialog a little creaky here and there - and that is especially true when watching today. I think Box the Robot had the most memorable and quotable line in the whole movie: "Fish, and plankton, sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here - fresh as harvest day!" Sometimes I say this when I'm at the grocery store with my wife - and she asks me what's on the shopping list. I make sure to wave my arm out as though I'm saying "Behold" when I get to the "It's all here / harvest day" part. 🙂
I was 12 years old when I saw Logan's Run in a theater and Jenny Agutter triggered something special in me.
Yeah, I have no doubt LOL
FYI: Lindsay Wagner "Bionic Woman" was going to play Jessica until Jenny Agutter auditioned.
Jenny Agutter is still a beautiful lady.
You are correct about that!
ABSOLUTELY😍
Don't forget her acting performance, which was superb.
Jenny Agutter was the hottest woman alive in 1976
I remember seeing Jenny Agutter in Walkabout when I was in Elementary School. Sure made an impression on me.
Ooh!
No way Lynda Carter easily…..
When I saw this movie for the first time as a young teen (13 or 14) 30 sounded like a pretty long time.
at 54, it seems incredibly young.
Funny how our conception of time changes as we get older, huh? 56 here.
Thank you for this great video on one of my all time favorite movies. The escapism of this movie and the surreal effect it had on 10 or 11 year old me is hard to describe. It really just overwhelmed my senses and took me out of my drab world into one of color and excitement. I'm not sure any film is capable of that anymore since we all have so many colorful and engaging sensory distractions now. But in that time we still had a lot of long and slow and quiet child hood days and seeing a movie like Logan's Run could stay with you for months!
Jenny Agutter, 'nuff said!
Beat me to it!!!
One of my favorite sci-fi movies. I particularly liked the old man character played by Mr. Ustinov. I liked the movie's references to the T. S. Elliot book Old Possum's Book...
When my wife and me were dating in early 1980's we frequently lunched at a coffee shop on 44th Street near 6th Ave in NYC. Just down the street from the Algonquin Hotel. Once after lunch, we walked down the street and saw Mr. Ustinov exiting the hotel and tryin' to hail a cab, I asked if he needed help and he said yes. I ran out in the street and stopped a cab, screechin' brake's-n-all. As I open the taxi door for him he shook my hand and said thank you. I met Peter Ustinov!
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
You're in the wrong century
You repeat everything and learn nothing.
When the sandmen were shooting at the runner they were missing on purpose. They were toying with him.
I did read somewhere that the death age of 21 was changed to 30 because of the difficulty of getting the right actors to play the parts of such young leads.
He said that
@@markmiller6402 Yes, he said it was changed, but he didn't give the reason.
I had the impression that the sandmen were missing on purpose to toy with their victims.
Yeah you're probably right. I was just being sarcastic :-)
God, sandmen!
I had such a crush on Jenny Agutter. Still do.
How cool would it be if when and if they make a remake they cast Michael York as the old man ?
I think they were missing on purpose. They were toying with the runner and it showed the sadistic side of the Sandmen.
This is exactly how I saw it.
Same. Agreed 💯
You got me on the kolchak episode.
When this was on I actually thought 30 was old lol. Lord what I wouldn't give to be 30 again.
LOL always stay young at heart
As a kid I was fascinated by Logans Run.
The Sandmen were not "missing", they were toying with terrified Runners. Nothing quite like a near miss to get the ol' heart pumping and urine flowing, eh? RUNNER!!!
Loved "Logan's Run". Hollyweird would mess it up if they decided to 'Remake' it. Really enjoy your 'Behind the Scenes' Videos - please keep them coming. If you are looking for ideas, how about "The Wild, Wild, West" Starring Robert Conrad & Ross Martin??? Your Title could be - "Whatever Happened to that Amazing Train?!" I always wanted to see James West teamed-up with the Lone Ranger & Zorro, but that never materialized - TV Executives had NO IMAGINATION back then, lol!!! Stay Motivated.
I loved Logan's Run when it first came out, and I own it this many years later. I love it just as much. Maybe even more.
One of my all-time favorites! Especially compared to what we get now-a-days masquerading as science fiction! I have and will always love this movie!
"Last Day. Capricorn 15's. Year of the City....2274. Carousel begins!"
Has Jenny Agutter ever not looked beautiful?🤔❤️
Tell me about it! As a nurse in American Werewolf!
The DS Sandman blaster is one of my favorite sci fi pieces. I have made a few for my prop collection. Also Jenny Agutter is Stunning. I love Michael York in this. I love the movie with all it's faults. And PG yes, but they did not have PG-13 back then. But even PG-13 might be stretch. Thanks for another great show.
Thank you Mr. Pal for some of my favorite movies...'War of the Worlds', and 'The Time Machine'. I could watch those until my eyeballs fell out
The way you said “Jenny Agutter” reflects exactly how I felt about her at the time. I was probably 10 when I first saw this, and I’m pretty sure she was my first crush.
Absolute classic. One of my fav pre-80s movies. And Jessica, whooooo-weee 😘😘👌
And who can forget her in An American Werewolf In London! 😀
I remember seeing this in the theaters as a kid. I loved it.
Hey, Dan. In regards to the Sandmen being lousy shots..at the beginning when they are chasing the 'Runner' from Carousel, they are intentionally missing, toying with him to get him into the open. Then when they succeed in drawing him out, their shots are right on target. And when Logan and Francis are firing at each other they intentionally miss because they are friends and can't bring themselves to kill each other. [Francis himself makes this statement] So when Logan HAS to kill him to stop him, his shot is dead on. Also when Francis 'terminates' the female fugitive in the cathedral, he is dead on target. And the Marvel comics series adapted the movie in the first six issues, with No#7 starting the adaptation of the 'Logan's World' novel, but the series was cancelled because sci-fi comics just weren't popular at the time. Also Director Michael Anderson has a cameo in the film as the surgeon performing the 'New You' procedure on Logan.
I was a floor covering installer in 1983. The crew I was with spent several months in the Dallas Apparel Mart in the World Trade Center recovering the floors, about 20,000 yards of carpet. That's when I learned about parts of Logan's Run having been filmed there. The Great Hall was really impressive. I say "was" because the Apparel Mart was torn down in 2004(?) to make room for a larger building. The Fort Worth Water Gardens was also mentioned. I've visited it. Still there and still impressive.
I never knew cats have 3 different names until I saw this movie.
The extra in the ending scene doing the Vulcan salute is one of my best friends. His mother was owner of Wyse Talent Agency in Dallas and got him the part. That scene was filmed at the Forth Worth water gardens.
I'm from the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Our community was always so proud of this film. I kissed my 1st boy and got high at the Fort Worth Water Gardens. 😁
Lifetime Logan's Run fan. The day I finally was going to see the fountain, somebody from Chicago had drown in it. I wanted to stand on the edge and shout: "You can live...LIVE!!!" but my girlfriend wouldn't let me.
Nice :-)
In the mid 80s i had the opportunity to purchase one of the guns.
They used calcium carbide and water to make acetylene gas. And a battery heated wire for combustion.
I miss the days when movie props could be found at Sci-fi conventions.
so you’re the one who got there ahead of me 😂
@@kevink9938 I'd bought collectables from him before and after that. He wanted $250-300 for it. My limit for the weekend was half that. There were several pieces I had to pass on over the years.
Found out over a decade later, my husband worked for him in highschool and college.
Small world.
Saw it at an outdoor theater that unfortunately, no longer exists. Man I miss the Drive In.
This movie was massive fun. Even Box.
The scene where they meet Peter Ustinov and his cats.....Classic, and a nice contrast to the movies overall darker theme. One of my favorites.
Oh, yeah, the costumes....whew!!!!
Oh ****. The Omega Man! The 70's was a great time to be a teenager.
Logan's Run the Television Series is still one of my favorite parts of my collection.
Jessica (Jenny Agutter) was my first love as a teenager watching this film. Today, at 60, I would still marry her. Farrah was really appealing but, the sex appeal goes to Jenny/Jessica.
Oh yeah! She awakened something in my 11 year old self when I saw it on TV. Much more than Farrah.
Don’t forget that novel’s second author, George Clayton Johnson, who also gave us “Ocean’s 11”, and the first aired episode of Star Trek.
Jessica was the entire reason I watched the movie... those legs! All these years later, still works for me!
Jenny Agutter... all I need.
Dan, the idea of dying at 30 in the movie made perfect sense given the counterculture mantra of the '70's to never trust anyone over 30. I thought Logan's Run was great sci-fi and also very much enjoyed the costumes, too. The scenes in the Love Shack are the reason why you bought VCRs that could be paused, advanced frame by frame and run videos in slow-motion. 😍 You mentioned that nowadays we have an app for hooking up with someone for sex like Tinder. The Logan's Run version of Tinder was called the "Circuit" and that's how Logan (Michael York) hooked up with Jessica (Jenny Agutter).
From what I understood , Carousel was a ritual that everyone turning 30 had to go through in which they had a chance to have their life clock "renewed" (reset back to zero years elapsed). However, Logan began to question the arrangement when Francis casually asked him, "Why do people run? Why don't they take their chances like everyone else in Carousel?" Logan replied, "Have you ever met anyone who was renewed because I haven't."
I also read the book after watching the flick and the big difference with the book is that Sanctuary was a place that actually existed (albeit on another planet) whereas in the film, everyone who tried to make it there got frozen by Box. The scenes with the "Old Man" played by Peter Ustinov was a favorite of mine because I'm a cat lover and the Old Man was taking care of dozens and dozens of abandoned cats running around the Capitol Building. He said that cats have three names: one name that cat owners call them; another name that cats know other cats by, and a third "secret" name that only an individual cat knows what it is.
Loved this movie. I remember going to the theater when it was released, saw it half a dozen times. Still love the movie and have my own DVD. All I have to say is Jenny!
I was extra in Logan's Run A great memory and experience that I am so happy that I was able to experience.
How did they get the cats to sit still for the fight scene? They weren't drugged because they took off when the desk they were on was hit.
Saw it in the theater. Logans Run was about a year before Star Wars. Had to write a review of it for my high school English class. Still have the comic books!
Haha that's so cool :-) do you still have your report?
I do!! For the class, we had to watch a movie every week and do a review. At the end of the term, the teacher had put them into a pee-chee (remember those?) and returned them to us. I put it in a closet and it was still in my Mom's house!
I was 12 in 76 when saw this and Jenny Agutter was just so gorgeous. Love the film.
Hers were my first movie boobs.
And later, Jenny would appear fully naked in Equus.
heck, yeah, I had that poster - but, I fell in love with Jenny Agutter
I think Jenny Agutter had it written into her contract that she had to get naked in every movie she was in. She also got naked in Equus and Walkabout. I suspect Nastassja Kinski had a similar clause in her contract.
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You forgot An American Werewolf in London, where she played the nurse.
@@ooneybird27 Oh yes, I had forgotten that!
Haha! One of my favorite memories as a child was taking over the family room for about a week to do my own reproduction of the cityscape. It was made with the various construction toys I had growing up, so it was this amalgamation of Legos, Tinker Toys, Lincoln Logs, and Girdlers and Panels sets, dressed up with paper facades that looked like they were from the movie. Speaking of that design aesthetic, I've often wondered if the designer of Denver International Airport wasn't a fan of the movie...
That reproduction you did sounds fascinating.
The main reason I wanted to see Logan's Run was I had a crush on Jenny Agutter ever since I saw her in the 1971 movie Walkabout, it remains one of my favourite SCi-Fi movies. It is, in my opinion, a little dated by today's standards and even in 1976 I found the acting a bit off but there was enough action and Jenny Agutter to keep my attention. Peter Ustinov brought much-needed light relief to the movie through his dialogue and acting, especially when his character recites a shortened version of the poem "The Naming of Cats" by T. S. Eliot.
Jenny is and still is gorgeous.
Are you serious? I fell in love with her in Walkabout too!
Watch "China 9, Liberty 37." You get to see a LOT of Jenny, ifyaknowwhatimean.
Farrah and I share a great grandmother, so we were second cousins, but I didn't know that when this movie came out. I was 16 and in love with her like all my friends were. Yes, we ALL had the poster! As far as me and my friends were concerned, If you didn't have that poster, there was just something wrong with you. Great times.
I never got the Farah thing. Then again, the dumb blond schtick was never my jam either. Now, Jenny A, whoa, what a looker.
I LOVED this movie as a child in the 70s so much that I had a Logan's Run themed 30th birthday party. Twas truly epic.
So in 1977, when I was 4, I saw the first release of Star Wars at a drive-in. It was a double feature with Logan's Run as the second showing. And while I would love to say that my mind was blown by Star Wars (this would happen a year later when Star Wars was re-released in 1978 and I watched it in a theater), I'm afraid seeing a nekkid Jenny Agutter was. at that formative moment, much more important than anything else I had experienced in my first 4 years. I carried that memory for 46 years until about 2 weeks ago when I purchased Logan's Run and rewatched. I had good taste, even at 4 years old. 😆😆😆
She was also in Captain America: Winter Soldier playing one of Robert Redford's national security advisors.
One of my favorites. I’d love to see a remake someday when Hollywood recovers from its current creative malaise.
RENEW!! RENEW!!
Logans Run is a classic. I wish for a 4K version with a lot of bonus material..
I remember watching an evening news report that said that after a long absence sci-fi was coming back to movie theaters, one a month. It began with Logan's Run and ended with Star Wars.
I was working for a company that made wall art at the time and had a showroom at the Apparel Mart (which is now The World Trade Center in Dallas) and one my pieces appears in the film. I can't remember off the top of my head if it was on the wall in Logan's apartment and can be seen over his shoulder or on the wall in the hallway when he opens the door.
Cool!
Another scene cut from the final print was near the beginning of the movie, as Francis pursues and terminates a Runner in Arcade. The crowd applauds as Francis makes the kill, and the camera zooms in to the Runner's lifeclock as it goes black. The scene then dissolves into a closeup of a clear lifeclock as the camera pans back out to show one of the new babies in Nursery.
Thank you for another great video. Also, thank you for pointing out the dystopian nature of a lot of sci-fi in the seventies. I remember catching the negativity of many TV shows and movies when I was a kid. I enjoyed the reruns of the original Star Trek, because they were the most positive sci-fi stories at the time.
A couple of the things the movie simply couldn't show was the scope of the civilization. When the book has Logan interacting with the kids on Muscle (think Meth mixed with Epinephrine and instant effect steroids) that was in "the dead zone" several hundred miles from tube linked domed
cities.
Yeah, that's why it would be neat if there was a really well done production of It today, kind of like they did with dune.
Big fan of the Logan trilogy of books (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search). I also loved the movie when it came out and now when I re-read the novels it's always Michael York and Jenny Agutter I see in my mind. I'd love to see them do a remake of the movie following the novel more closely, and even then follow it up with Logan's World. The one thing I didn't like about the movie was changing the sandman gun to a simple "blaster" weapon. The six unique charges in the Sandman's revolver was something that made the weapon very versatile and deadly. No missing with a "homer".
@9.35 They shot to miss on purpose, hunting runners was a game to them. Run Runner, RUN!
Logan's run is one of my favorites.
Jenny Agutter is a classic beauty.Thrilled to have found your channel.
She could make a shower curtain look like high fashion. A whole lotta people went on to be in Babylon 5.
Only the gorgeous Jenny Agutter could upstage the gorgeous Farrah Fawcett-Majors (as credited in the film).
Very true :-)
She still looks good! Loved it when she showed up in the MCU Avengers and Captain America:The Winter Soldier.
@@MoviesMusicMonstersI like the video, but you say 'cool' way too much.
Very, very true.
Oh? Ever see a movie called One Million Years B.C.?
When I was a child and watched this (or was it the TV show....??? I can't remember. LOL!) I was amazed at the guns! I loved how they would shoot the flash out the muzzle. It looked so cool. I am glad you mentioned them here.
As a 9 year old...this film blew my mind...saw the film 6 times at my local movie theater...yes... At 9 and 10 yrs old I sometimes had to con my way into buying a ticket to a rated R movie...it was the 70's...what can I say...😁👍😜
Logan's Run was rated PG. You could definitely get away with a lot more in a PG rated movie in the 70s, particularly nudity.
I loved the film, being an impressionable teenager back then, and it's definitely a classic in my eyes. Unlike Dan, I quite liked Box, even if it did seem a bit on the flimsy side, probably due to the weirdness of the body shape and head, not to mention the voice. In this respect, the robot just felt 'different', as did the film itself. As for Jenny Agutter, well, what a fine, very attractive actress she was. Michael York was simply perfect for his role, too. This was an ambitious, star-studded film that fully deserves this excellent review, and it certainly brings back some wonderful memories. Thanks a lot, Dan, and greetings from England.
15 year old teenager and walked into the theater for viewing and was Blown Away and being 15 the female outfits were wow, thought that outdoor scene was Malibu Creek (Live in SF. Valley) and yes own the DVD.
I heard the Vulcan salute guy did it so his family would be able to spot him when the saw the film in the theatre.
Thanks for the look back. I, too, loved this movie when it came out and have owned it in every format: VHS, DVD, Blu Ray and, if you can believe it, CED (Capacitance Electronic Disk), the format that killed RCA. Still have my SelectaVison player and the damn thing still works. I've kept it because it functions with something actually called a "flux capacitor." I really hope they do not ruin Logan's Run with a remake.
Dan, this was one of my favorite films of a lifetime. You're right about comparison to the original book. In fact, William Nolan was an aging hippy who lived in Van Nuys. It was fun, but also telling, seeing Farah in her tiny roll. But then, using Michael Anderson as the doctor was also rather unique. The gigantic waterfall/setting for returning to the city was actually from a beautiful/modern waterfall in the center of the city of Fort Worth). I had the pleasure of seeing it when visiting a relative. Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. p.s. ya, those outfits were totally cool for this youngster-back in 1976! It's still in my Top 5...along with "Somewhere in Time"...oh, please, don't quote roger ebert...or any of those other weirdos...let them try to make movies. Those miniatures were terrific back then! rl
The problem with Box was also that he had reflective surfaces so at some points if you look really carefully you can see the camera crew relected on him. 😄
loved the movie AND your review. The 70s was a awesome decade for Sci-Fi
Ahhh, Jessica. Drool.
Jenny Agutter was my young fantasy for a long time. I loved her. When I saw her again in Marvel's Captain America : Winter Soldier I just couldn't believe it. She's still stunning.
So glad you covered Logan's Run that was a great review of one of my favourite movies. While I lived in Fort Worth I had to visit the film locations in DFW and loved that I could walk to the Water Garden from my apartment. I first saw the TV series and cannot wait to see you talk about that too.