The Coasters RMC Transformed - By the Numbers
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2022
- 13 RMC hybrids came at the expense of an aging wooden coaster, so let's look at these ghosts of RMC and rank them up by the numbers.
Thanks to Bilderkin for this video idea!
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I made this episode a few weeks ago before Wildcat's Revenge was announced and I wasnt thinking about it when I compiled this data, so if you're curious, these are Wildcat's stats:
Ride time: 49 seconds (last place)
Drop: 85.2 ft (10th of 14)
Speed: 50 mph (T-10th of 14)
Length: 2380 ft (13th of 14)
Pacing: 48.6 ft/s (5th of 14)
Okay cool also hi
On the topic of RMC Conversions, What are your thoughts on Wildcat’s Revenge coming next Year to Hersheypark?
@@TylerPCoyne Looks solid if not spectacular, I'll talk more about it in my next buy/sell episode
I'm getting season passes to Hershey this year (only an hour from my house) just because of Wildcats Revenge. I still vividly remember my one and only ride on Steel Vengeance. It was the single greatest ride of my life...hands down. And it's still the only RMC I've ever been on. So pumped for WR. What about a top 10 of old woodies that NEED the RMC treatment? (Possible you already did this)
@@ItsAllGood_ yes a list of coasters that need to be, or would be better as RMC's would be awesome. I even have an idea for a coaster that could be put on the list: Predator at Six Flags Darien Lake.
For those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of track where we use Google Earth and the Pythagorean Theorem to take out the lift, station, and brakes to prevent roller coaster trains from colliding with one another
El Toro Thrills
Thanks Ryan
Thank you Ryan that’s enough for today
Whenever I read that I can’t help but here Ryan in my head
"Can't go wrong with a B&M Hyper" - Pythagoras
An element of Iron Gwazi’s Queue that I enjoy is an overhead sign that compares the stats of the original Gwazi to the new RMC masterpiece
thanks for using my idea.
That’s so cool,Just for a comment you made, you got an entire video off of it!
Thank you Chris. You are my favorite Coaster RUclipsr ever. Every time you post it makes my day and always brightens my mood. Thank you.
Agreed.
@@Nxkamxbxms same
He's awesome
Disagree. Airtime Thrills sucks.
@@skyguyismyguyr12turn you suck
This is honestly one of the more clever videos you’ve done. The coasters whose shells were used to make modern marvels
Thanks to Bilderkin for the video idea, I wish I could claim credit for coming up with it
Rip mean streak even though that ride was majorly rough at Cedar point I still would’ve loved to ride it
“This was my first GCI, but I never got to ride it before it closed”
Video idea: every Disney coaster by the numbers
Ah, Wicked Cyclone. My first ever RMC, and boy was it a life-changing experience.
I’m living in Japan right now and am super pumped about riding Hakugei in the near future. Definitely a contender for my top 5.
WiCy was also my first RMC and I couldnt believe how forceful and smooth it was
Wow the drops looks so much steeper compared to their old wooden roller coasters! The change is always hilarious to me 😂
Yeah I noticed this especially with Colossus/Twisted Colossus. the old drop just kinda glided down
The only exception to this would be the original Rattler, which opened with a drop of 61°, and it looked absolutely mental. It apparently pulled 5Gs.
im a little surprised that wildcat isnt on this list
When Outlaw Run gets RMCed with iron horse track and the lift gets raised 40 feet, that monster is gonna be insane ! ! ! ! ! !
Mean Streak still holds my personal record of roughest coaster ridden, even topping Son of Beast.
Not Really Rough It Just Has A Horrible Layout
This series is the favorite of Pythagoras. I wonder what his credit count would be if he were around today.
He can use his own theorem to calculate that
@@AirtimeThrills I agree
I didn't know that Joker, (Roar,) was just straight up a clone of the one at SFA. I thought they were similar, and just got the same name. Now I kinda want Roar to get the RMC treatment, lmao.
I'd be interested to see a video that would compare the improvement RMC made to certain coasters. Like for example, since Mean Streak was universally hated and Steve is regarded to be one of the best coasters of all time, that process had the largest improvement. I'm not sure how you could quantify it, but it'd be interesting regardless I think
That would make an incredible ranking video.
So even before it's conversion, Gwazi was hauling 💪
Mean Streak was bad ass, but Steel Vengeance is Fricking EPIC 🤘
like o.o
Steel Vengeance really changed how my visits to Cedar Point went. Lol. I used to try and hit every major coaster, but avoid Mean Streak until the end if necessary just in case I ran out of time.
Now with Dragster MIA, instead of rounding Dragster, to Millennium, to Maverick, my route is Steel Vengeance to Maverick to Millennium. Round off with the zero-line Rougarou and zero-line Magnum...
I still can't really bring myself to walking back to the front of the park for the B&M trio when I can just walk back to Steel Vengeance a second time. 👀
Seeing these 90's woodies getting converted reminds me a lot of the ballparks. In the 60's and 70's them multipurpose/sport cookie cutter stadiums were everywhere and they seemed one in the same; then a revolution hit and them mid ball parks left and a revolution of retro-moderns were born, and in the coaster world, RMC is that revolutionary.
Really glad the concrete jungle astroturf stadiums are all gone now.
@@AirtimeThrills On the baseball channel, is there a ranking of them? That would be sweet
Ok episode suggestion. I’d love to see a “by the numbers” for really old coasters: like coasters that are pre-1950? (I’m picking a random date) but maybe like the oldest operating coaster at each chain or park??
We never knew how much we needed this video; I still don’t understand how many great video ideas you and your community are coming up with, Chris. Keep up the incredible work!
I wonder where Wildcat would fit in
The intro slaps
Honorable mention the the upcoming Wildcats Revenge at Hershey
I rode Gwazi in its first year and I thought it was great. I had heard that it was a dueling wooden coaster and I wasn’t sure how that would work but after riding it I was impressed.
Original Gwazi (before it started deteriorating) was an awesome coaster!
Man you had a chance to make an apple joke with twisted timbers and you for real said lemons
Fascinating Video though - This series is my favorite on your channel
I didnt even think of that, but really apples wouldnt have made sense because theyre fantastic
I saw this in my notifications and I knew exactly what it was, I lo be this series and I’m like LETS GO
Figured mean streak would be at the top lol, good video as usual
it really surprised me when Georgia cyclone came last in pacing, I thought for sure rattler would be last, it also really surprised me when riverside cyclone wasn't second to last in pacing
I think Rattler had enough speed aside from the helix to make up for it
@@AirtimeThrills yeah that’s fair
Just started the video, Colossus better be top 3 at least.
Edit: 5th is good too.
Cool video idea, it’s pretty original!
I’ll admit, I’ve never ridden roar at SF America, and have a very Special place in my heart for Roar at DK,
but I remember it on its last day, and I still loved it, Marathoned it all day and had nothing but fun.
Might have been a little rickety, but it was an early GCI, it was operated at a Six Flags park, but it also had to its advantage, operated millennium flyer trains all throughout its life.
I will bet any amount of money right now the PTC trains in Maryland have contributed to its roughness.
This series is so awesome! I worship Alan Schilike, and I’d be surprised if any enthusiasts didn’t. Steve, Gwazi, Zadra, and Hakugei are are contenders for the world’s best coaster.
He's a god that traveled here to free us from dull and force less coaster experiences
@@doesntmatter4477 haha that’s really true! But in all seriousness, mean streak and rattler had such bad layouts lol 😂
@idkwhattoputhere for sure! Oh, and also Steve Okmoto and Joe Draves and John Miller
@idkwhattoputhere yeah scream machine’s got a good layout I think magnum is super overrated though, it’s profiling is very outdated. Maxxforce looks awesome though, and makes great use of its short track length. Allen is an awesome designer though, you can’t argue against that.
@idkwhattoputhere yeah their design style was quickly outdated, especially when manufacturers like B&M came around. Arrow is still a legendary manufacturer
The only coaster I've gotten the opportunity to ride pre and post-RMC treatment is (Wicked) Cyclone. I still remember how painful the first drop on cyclone was. It whipped me so hard and I was left with back pain for the rest of the day. Not the best scenario especially for a 10 year old .
The By The Numbers Series is great. The information is great and the time it must take to put one of these together is nuts. Keep up the content. .
Funny thing is these videos are really easy to make (which is why I put them out at the start of every month). Excel does most of the work for me. The videos that are super draining to make are in the "Events that changed the theme park industry" series.
Cyclone was so rough at 6 flags NE, that before they switched to the new trains for 1999 they used carbiners to hold the lap bars down to make sure they wouls not pop up during the ride/ It was rough! Mean Streak was smooth by comparison!
NEW INTRO THANK YOU JESUS
You just never run out of ideas for videos...
Ghost of gwazi is gonna love this
I was always curious to compare the before and after pics of the layouts as I wasn't sure how much RMC usually deviates from the original but thanks to your vid I can see that they stick extremely close to the original layouts every time and I find it even more impressive how Schilke can innovate and cram so many new elements in a restricted space!
This was the first time ever he talked about cyclone in depth at six flags new england.
The ghost of international coasters inc is still haunting me, 2 coasters and so much wasted potential.
As always Chris, great video. Now you need a by the numbers of the RMC conversions or maybe the difference in ride time between old and new
My very first by the numbers/prime ride time video was for all the RMCs, the series has changed a bit since then though
@@AirtimeThrills I must have forgotten it. I’ll have to go back and watch it again
love your videos keep up the great work.
Another amazing video as always!!
Great video! This was actually super interesting!
This is a super creative Idea. Good job
I love the by-the-numbers series! thank you so much for bringing it back Chris!
Super interesting but fun idea! Good stuff Chris!
Can you do a video on the best coaster demolition phots and videos? I’m a big fan of your channel
I always love it when you post. Its so fun to watch your vids, and you deserve more subscribers
Great job, Chris! You put in the effort and patience to measure the length and time, which is something I could not do!
such a great video concept and such a great video 👍👍
real
Gwazi was rough, but I remember it being fast throughout. Still surprised it was #1 in pacing, though
I read somewhere that RMC I-Box coasters are basically cannibals. I will never look at an RMC I-box coaster the same again
I love all of these stats videos!
Love the new intro
Great vid!
Clever idea
Cool idea Chris keep continue postin
I’d love to see The PNW by the numbers
Alan is the grim reaper
Texas Giant is the only coaster I've ever ridden that I thought actually NEEDED it's midcourse brake run, because it was a relentless onslaught of speed and roughness otherwise. You needed that break in the middle to breathe 😂
I like the new intro!
I'm surprised that 50 seconds would be last place, considering that's a very good duration for prime ride time. But that also speaks to the bad pacing of many of these rides. I expected Rattler to be at the top in duration, because I remember how that torture device seemed like it was never going to end. It was so terrible, and that long helix was brutal. I did get one ride on Mean Streak, but it didn't seem as long because it wasn't too bad (but quite forgettable).
Bad pacing plus most of these rides had pretty good size which made them great RMC candidates
I really like the video, the only thing I'd have liked better was if you stuck the new stats after conversion, on the other side of the screen. Just to see the direct comparison.
The rattler at SFOT was rough but a really fun ride. Your whole body would still be vibrating from how much it rattled along the track at the end. Iron Rattlers only bad part is the end, it’s a little too short IMO and I think it shows they could have done a little more with it judging by the power you have hitting the end brakes.
Cyclone @ SFNE had octagon shaped wheels, prove me wrong.
This is an extremely creative by the numbers concept. You go builder kit! Lol
If anyone cares: "hakugei" means "white whale". Not sure if this is necessarily true, but I'm told one of the stipulations for RMC was to maintain the iconic white structure of the original ride (not that they wouldn't have wanted to anyway). They not only did that, but made it even more distinct and appealing by adding the blue track.
You should rank these
You should do a video on RMC coasters that need to be re RMCed. Like the Outlaw Run....it needs help bad!
The length of some of these rides were crazy...5th place at 85 seconds??? RCCA and Dinn were simply built different (if not well)
They valued a long ride for sure, they were definitely battling each other to make the biggest wooden coaster in the early 90s
1:38 I have two dogs named stella and Lola and I swear I didn’t name them off the ride
Texas Giant started it all, The Texas Giant has gone through several layout alterations even before RMC got involved, this makes me wonder if Six Flags Over Texas would ever do another layout change since this has been a thing on anniversaries? Considering RMC has advance since that was a prototype 11 years ago.
I wouldnt rule it out if they wanted RMC to turn one of those high banked turns into an inversion or something, but I wouldnt bet on it
finally a new intro
The last 3 times I was this early I didn't have anything good to comment
Easily the best youtuber
Great vid! Btw, did you hear that Wildcat at Hershey Park is going to be a hybrid? I hope it’s RMC but the article I read didn’t say!
It's an RMC!
It was announced last week that it was an RMC and that it'd be named Wildcats Revenge
Yep it's official now. I just left it off here because I made this video a while back before it was announced
Nice new phone intro!👍
top 10 roller coaster entrance signs possibly? ik you did the best and worst names but what about the entrance signs and logos as well?
I'm surprised by the fat that Mean Steak's 98 second duration is even longer than Rattler's. That's about two seconds less than the Voyage's prime ride time! (I've never ridden any of these wooden coasters but I'd bet Rattler was better than Mean Streak, being taller and faster.) Thanks for posting another "by the numbers" a.k.a. the "prime ride time (and so much more)" series of coaster themed RUclips videos.
I would think Mean Streak was better than Rattler mainly because Dinn coasters generally were better than RCCA
@@AirtimeThrills Yeah, I guess it's hard to say, but either way I'm pretty sure one couldn't have been better than the other by any significant margin.
great video! can we please get that November upload schedule? I’m getting hyped for your end of year content
Since you asked, and I don't like putting my schedule out there because I change it around so much, but...
Nov 10: America's 15 best themed coasters (non-Disney/Universal)
Nov 14: Cyclone vs Cyclone vs Cyclone vs.....
Nov 17: Every Manufacturer's most polarizing coaster
Nov 21: The roughest steel coasters I've ridden
Nov 24: Predictions for 2023 & Review my 2022 predictions
Nov 28: SFMM vs CP Coaster Battle
@@AirtimeThrills yoooo that’s a great slate. looking forward to it :) thank you
depending on the time of the pov mean streak's pace is completely different. check an early pov to a 2015-16 one and you'll see
Yeah I've noticed this with a lot of coasters. The Hersheypark official POVs for their woodies are so slow they almost valley. I try to watch POVs taken from real people while the park's open, like Coaster Crutchfield.
rip old intro
Woodies are my favorite coasters. Wildebeast would make a great RMC but not in Canada unless Cedar Fair pulled some strings and it happens. I have seen a concept RMC for Wildebeast, it was really awesome. If only. I'm really enjoying your videos.
buy or sell: dorney park will get a new coaster sometime in the next 2 years
love your content :D
Some one should make side by side povs of all the rmcs and their previous versions
I'm still confused how Robin Hood and especially Untamed manage to have so much speed by the end of the layout, since they're not that tall but quite long. Untamed feels like it never loses its top speed, despite the length of the track compared to its height
I rode mean streak a few times, but havent been back up to Cedar Point since Steel Vengeance came out. It's a 7 hour drive. But I have hopes to go back soon.
4:08 someone's gotta fix that typo for Iron Gwazi.
I blame Google
you should definitely do an video of the pop culture that colossus was on throughout the years
relly
9:27 Uh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-uh he said “major woodies”
Rattlers drop would be first if they didn’t modify it. Had they not modify it the height would be around 170-180 feet
RMC should get involved making Mine Coasters for the families and probably Model their trains after Greensburg's Battery Powered or Electric Mine Locomotives built in the early 40s by The Greensburg Machine Company of Greensburg, Pennsylvania.
Hopefully Timber Wolf American Thunder and Roar get added to this list
Do you think we'll see new giant wooden coasters made In the future or Are most parks gonna go with a hybrid model?
What’s your favorite Six Flags park? Mine is Fiesta Texas. I am lucky enough to be able to visit every Six Flags park, and I have only had one bad visit to Fiesta Texas. This was my most recent visit during fright fest, the rides were running better then ever and the Kori crawl was now a kori sprint! The Iron Rattler was flying. I have Magic mountain in my second and Great Adventure and Great America tied for third. Great Adventure has El Toro and Kingda Ka. El Toro is my number 3 overall coaster and Kingda ka is just insane. El Toro carries great adventure for sure. Great America has a more well rounded ride lineup but none are in my list of incredible rides, Goliath has its moments but it is too short and everything else it just depends on the day. That’s why I like Fiesta Texas, it’s almost always consistent.