I worked at a public high school for four years. The third year was the covid year which proved my theory that public school is just for babysitting and giving poor kids food. Once they closed schools the only thing they cared about was how to get free food to the poor kids and that teachers put in grades. I was praised for giving every student a 100 that semester while they had to deal with the craziness. The next school year I gave every kid a 100 even though most didn't do anything all year. It was my only year with no issues because I had no complaints from parents or administrators. I was blessed to be able to leave that profession and now volunteer at my church. I am now able to help kids in the children's program, coach sports, and start a mentorship program.
Traditional education does not have to equal "conveyor belt". It depends on what is taught and how it's taught. "Traditional" can equal classical, the Great Works, Great Ideas, and include opportunities for group work, as well as individual exploration.
A single teacher can give her students the keys to the kingdom, so to speak, by engaging students with a wide range of the best and most significant of everything said and done. They gets the keys to the kingdom from Socrates, Cicero, Aurelius, da Vinci, Shakespeare, Plutarch, Mendel, Galileo, Newton, etc etc etc.
That is if they want to invest in it but if they just want a grade or want to manipulate the process so they have time for other things, they can't give the keys to anything.
Funny. My public schools growing up worked to get us thinking, thinking about our thinking, and encouraged and engaged us in asking questions. Of course, that was before NCLB and Common Core made education about uniformity and test scores of things easily measured.
I appreciated the conversation. As a career educator, I don’t view the public school system as broken; however, I would certainly argue it is under significant stress from societal issues that include, among other things, antiquated immigration policies, limited community resources to address poverty and homelessness, and poor access to routine healthcare and nutrition. Unlike private schools, public schools must educate all students, including those with special needs and those with emotional/behavioral disorders. Also, unlike private schools, we must ensure state standards are being taught and are reflected in annual mandated testing. I only wish we would work to fix these issues because, as your guest clearly stated, public schools are not going anywhere.
Well said. Badly broken families (e.g., siblings with 3 different dads). Technology is throwing a major wrench in the works. And, too many people think you go to school to get get educated to get a job, not to get educated to participate as a free person in a free society.
The system can be gamed by kids from two parent households who spend half the time studying to make top grades. This is why the oppressed are so upset because they didn't raise their kids in a two parent home and didn't teach their kids to make sacrifices. If you take away the disadvantaged community, you will find the smartest kids are likely not the popular rich ones. The disadvantaged community drags down the GPA average so that it can be stated rich people make better than poor people. That's because the poor people from non disadvantaged communities know they can't have it all.
I worked at a public high school for four years. The third year was the covid year which proved my theory that public school is just for babysitting and giving poor kids food. Once they closed schools the only thing they cared about was how to get free food to the poor kids and that teachers put in grades. I was praised for giving every student a 100 that semester while they had to deal with the craziness. The next school year I gave every kid a 100 even though most didn't do anything all year. It was my only year with no issues because I had no complaints from parents or administrators.
I was blessed to be able to leave that profession and now volunteer at my church. I am now able to help kids in the children's program, coach sports, and start a mentorship program.
Why in the world did you give them all 100s they didn't earn?
@@emilymiller1792 you've never worked at a public school have you?
@@goldenknightsfanatic Yes, I have. That sort of nonsense doesn't fly at my kids' school either.
Great work.
You should really add links to your guest speaker’s sites and social media pages.
Home schooling!
Making these charter schools would be great, some states are more welcoming to charter schools than others.
They are not great. Unelected parents make decisions with their neighbirs' hard-earned tax dollars. Charter schools = taxation without representation.
Traditional education does not have to equal "conveyor belt". It depends on what is taught and how it's taught. "Traditional" can equal classical, the Great Works, Great Ideas, and include opportunities for group work, as well as individual exploration.
A single teacher can give her students the keys to the kingdom, so to speak, by engaging students with a wide range of the best and most significant of everything said and done. They gets the keys to the kingdom from Socrates, Cicero, Aurelius, da Vinci, Shakespeare, Plutarch, Mendel, Galileo, Newton, etc etc etc.
That is if they want to invest in it but if they just want a grade or want to manipulate the process so they have time for other things, they can't give the keys to anything.
Funny. My public schools growing up worked to get us thinking, thinking about our thinking, and encouraged and engaged us in asking questions. Of course, that was before NCLB and Common Core made education about uniformity and test scores of things easily measured.
Any thoughts on private schools?
I appreciated the conversation. As a career educator, I don’t view the public school system as broken; however, I would certainly argue it is under significant stress from societal issues that include, among other things, antiquated immigration policies, limited community resources to address poverty and homelessness, and poor access to routine healthcare and nutrition. Unlike private schools, public schools must educate all students, including those with special needs and those with emotional/behavioral disorders. Also, unlike private schools, we must ensure state standards are being taught and are reflected in annual mandated testing. I only wish we would work to fix these issues because, as your guest clearly stated, public schools are not going anywhere.
Well said. Badly broken families (e.g., siblings with 3 different dads). Technology is throwing a major wrench in the works. And, too many people think you go to school to get get educated to get a job, not to get educated to participate as a free person in a free society.
The system can be gamed by kids from two parent households who spend half the time studying to make top grades. This is why the oppressed are so upset because they didn't raise their kids in a two parent home and didn't teach their kids to make sacrifices. If you take away the disadvantaged community, you will find the smartest kids are likely not the popular rich ones. The disadvantaged community drags down the GPA average so that it can be stated rich people make better than poor people. That's because the poor people from non disadvantaged communities know they can't have it all.
@@emilymiller1792then why is there engineering degrees?
@@W81ResearcherThe mental gymnastics behind that statement is impressive.
@@lancelittrell369 I plan to do a lot of research on this in grad school.