Unboxing a '90s Mystery PC!
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2022
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Today's unboxing features a package that I don't know the exact contents of. All I know is that there's a computer inside, so let's open it up!
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I love when creators add subtitles to their videos, it really helps me understand more clearly!
@GalaxyTails If there's 1 (one) thing RUclips has made it clear is that they do not care about you.
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@@aidancommenting That’s not turned on though. It started happening with a RUclips update about two years ago and has been annoying me ever since
@@aidancommenting Same here! I wish I could leave them turned on, but it never worked...
So bizarre that its the complete opposite for other people...
As opposed to Google just hoping for the best on their subtitles?
There was definitely a lot of overlap for the AT and PS/2 standards for keyboards, as well as the serial vs. PS/2 standards for mice. I have a Pentium 100 based PC from the mid-1990s which has no PS/2 ports at all. On the other hand, I have an early 90s IBM PS/2 with a 486SX25 processor and a PS/1 with a 286 processor, each of which naturally have both PS/2 ports.
I had a K6-2 based PC that I got for Christmas in 1999 that had an AT form factor. I had to use an XT keyboard and if I remember correctly, it had a PCI slot that had a PS/2 connector for the mouse.
Ditto. My Dell Pentium 120MHz bought in 1995 (a customized Intel Advanced/EV motherboard; still functioning) had two PS/2 ports and could use any modern PS/2 keyboard or mouse, but an Asus TXP4 (designed in 1997) with Pentium MMX 233 MHz I picked up in a recycling center had only one AT port, and the on-board PS/2 port had to be connected via a ribbon cable.
Alot of budget motherboards had hybrids. I had one with atx power at keyboard and ps2 mouse that took amd processors (onboard 24 bit svga graphics). It was branded eaglemax, I think there were simular ones called JetWay also. These were all imported by chinese guys who had computer shops. the Cyrix MGX motherboards also had simular sollutioins since they were meant to be the cheapest way to "upgrade" a computer. At that time I worked as a system builder in a computer shop. I'm not sure wether these hybrid boards were ever intended for the western market unless they were Cyrix MGX. There were AT and ATXboards though I believe up to k62/P3/4 I seem to remember my dad got an AT board because he was so fond of his big tower case.
i had a Amstrad 286 with PS/2
@@hughenden6 Was common on branded systems.
Vintage keyboard nerd here: AT and PS/2 keyboards are completely protocol compatible, so all you need to get a keyboard to work on that motherboard is a passive adapter that you can get for cheap online and your PS/2 keyboard should work without issue.
He did, there's a bit of text he put in the video in post near the end where he says he bought an adapter for a follow up video. Can't wait to see that!
Yep! Most of my keyboards have a 5 pin DIN connector
Man, managing all those ribbons just has the nostalgia flooding back.
It's a wonder that they got laptops to work back back in the day when this was the desktop situation
Looking forward to the follow up. Love these old machines. They took computing to the next level.
This is "black market" "mystery crates"
On a whole new level
Congrats on getting an adapter, because I actually watched to the end 👍. My sympathies that you have to deal with a million comments telling you to do it though!
mystery pc? now that sounds like an interesting video!
Dude, I have been binge watching your channel while programing a project I am working on for 3 days straight. Even your old content is amazing!
10:54: "PLS DO NOT REMOVE"
that warranty sticker be using an acronym years before it was cool
the AT port is for keyboards
that PS/2 port on that bracket is for mice only
It would be cool to see some early Linux on this system, or maybe even OS/2!
Agreed. I think Windows has been done to death now.
Watching a new video from you is always such a treat. I love them!
so glad to be a sub of this channel, i enjoy all of your videos and everytime i see a new one pop up i always watch it whenever i can. thanks for making my days better :)
I don’t know why but I love that power switch lol! Thanks for the entertaining video as always!
I actually still have an AT-PS2 adapter laying around. Just one of those things from the old days.
I think the bios only can detect an AT style connector even with the PS2 card inserted into place which I think was only for mice. You may need to purchase an AT style keyboard, like a Model M keyboard to continue into the computer or see if a PS2 to AT keyboard connector will work
The interface for PS/2 keyboards is a smaller version of the AT standard, the pins line up when using a connector adapter. After Windows 95 the spec got extended to include Super keys and multi-function ports.
I say later in the video that I've already purchased an AT to PS/2 adapter. Followup is in the works!
@@MichaelMJD yeah I kinda watched it until that point. Still hope that it'll still work. But if there's a chance you do end up getting a model m keyboard in the future it will be nice to see it working on other older 80s-90s systems you get in the near future
@@Skiedeagle I actually have a Model M with the PS/2 cable! Probably should use it in one of these videos, haha
Hello everybody and welcome back to another video
How I love that simple but effective intro
maybe he meant that it predates the PS2 console hehe
I Love The 90's Computers Even The 80's too!!
Man, I see so many 90s PCs get recycled at my job and I'm not allowed to take any home. Still waiting for the day I actually find one. Hopefully it's not a weird early example of a custom PC like this though.
You work in an e-waste recycling plant?
or any kind of computer repair store.. not only ewaste/recycling plants that throw out old computers, fart gobbler
Nice video ! It really looks like a very early 90's case (probably 1989-1992 era, with originally a 386 or 486) that has been upgraded later with a more recent motherboard with Cyrix/PCI.
The 90s had so many computer kit that it was hard to choose, Operating system may be a easier choice for most through. Windows 95 then Windows 98.
I love how you're so expressive with your hands....I don't reckon we'll ever see your face.
It's kind of like Kane in WWE. 😂
what an exciting video! amazing as always michael! 💓😊
Looking forward to the followup!
another great video your videos are always great!
Watching this PC's interior took me back almost 20 years, when I was a child opening my family's computer 😅😅
I wonder what OS is going to be installed on this thing?
Windows 11 XD
Windows 12 Lite
widows 9
I love that case
I have a computer pretty much just like this! It's my grandma's and I've never gotten past that screen too
"keyboard error, please press F1 to continue" that funny x)
Seeing 10:17 chances are that PS2 breakout is connected to the AT keyboard port. I've seen that on a SuperSocket 7 motherboard and it can be used for the keyboard for sure, but for the mouse (or keyboard on the AT and mouse on the PS2) I have no idea as I wasn't able to test
Thanks for your sharing
Coincidence... I got a similar computer two weeks ago (96/97 era). I still had an AT/PS2 adapter tho, so my IBM model M keyboard fits kinda well with it! The hard drive had too many bad sectors so I've put an IDE/SD card adapter and tada (way more silent also). New CMOS battery and tada. Very fun time !!
I missed ya Michael!!
24 minutes ago. This is the closest I've gotten to the upload time of an MJD video yet
Looking forward to the follow up video ;-)
MJD posts, I slap that on as quick as possible
When you closed out the video with "I'll see you..." with a pause, I couldn't help mentally completing that with "... in court." :D
Whoa got a similar tape drive around! Unsure if it still works tho
Oh hey, another 90’s PC!
I have a question. I have basically the same pc but mine has the small number display in the front. Any idea what I would do if I boot it up and get no picture on my monitor. No beeps. Also no number displayed.
$5 Win98 PC: oooh a new friend
6:36 You can get a PS/2 to DIN5 connector pretty easily for your keyboard. They're essentially the same protocol IIRC.
Whether a mouse or keyboard works on USB, PS2 or serial is dependant on what protocols the device itself understands. Thats why sometimes you can use a PS/2 mouse in a serial port but not every time, or a USB keyboard in PS/2 (up until recently that is).
Awesome video, Michael!
Thanks!
I still have the AT-PS2 keyboard adapter from my first pc that I bought 20 something years ago :)
Oh... I have several of Midi tower style machines. Your source is *somewhat* right... the form factor actually predates PS/2! This is an AT style board and PSU. It's a novum you actually have a PS/2 mouse port (that's what it *only* can be for AT style machines), you usually only had serial ports for your mouse, especially before 1995 (this machine must be of somewhere around 1997, at least the CPU). PS/2 and AT (DIn style) connectors are electrically compatible (so your ordered adapter will work), most PS/2 mice though won't work with a serial adapter - the mouse itself must support COM ports then (rarely the case).
Whenever you hear beep codes from such machines, the first things you probably always want to do is to reseat the cards and memory chips. That solves around 50% of such problems ;).
Once you got it up and running, it's a fun machine for Win9x and DOS games! ;)
I’d say more around 95-96.
I wondered if it was an older motherboard, originally with a 486 or 586 before being upgraded to the 686, but I didn’t look at the RAM in case that offered any clues.
@@kaitlyn__L No, that is a socket 7 board. It probably used to have a 396 or 486 motherboard in it though as the case looks older than the mid 90's.
@@EvilTurkeySlices While the board BIOS chip has a copyright of 1995, the 6x86 has been released in 1996. The 6x86L (notice the L) has been released after that to address heat issues. Given that it's the highest clocking model of 6x86 (150 MHz, not MX), I'd assume it's around 1997. Getting higher clock speeds needs process improvements you don't have at the start. This is probably a cheaper machine meant for the low end market, the Trident card (also cheap) adds to that impression.
@@bad.sector the Board is from around 1995-1996, the cpu is just newer.
Can you try with the Trident card again, because it could be either not seated properly, or it could be the hard drive (it arrived unplugged after all)!
anytime i see PS/2, even in this context, i still can't help but think of the PlayStation 2
I see that has a Maxtor 72004 AP drive listed, I also happen to have 1 of these in a mid 90's setup!
Nice PC
I always connect my PS/2 keyboards with a PS/2 to DIN adapter. Yes, that's how it used to be because you probably only had one port because the manufacturers assumed that you used a DIN keyboard. By the way, I also have a Cyrix 6x86 in my inventory. I got it as a gift, the computer.
yeah I love my vintage computers but they can be a pain in the ass. Long story short a ram issue on my amd 5x86 160mhz caused me to try windows 2000 (I don't like 9x and 98 was acting funny) that didn't run very well so I put 95 on it but couldn't get usb working so finally back to 98se and ready to game and hope it doesn't break in some way, have spent the last few days doing all this and I'm exhausted and damn happy it's back to normal.. this is the norm with vintage computers though
i love this video keep it up
Funny I have a mini at keyboard sitting here with a ps2 adapter on it that I sometimes use with a ps2 to usb adapter. Also you made one call on the ports that was incorrect. You called the port under the 9 pin serial the parallel port when in fact the parallel port was under the ps2 (reversed gender plugs) The long port under the 9 pin serial is in fact a 25 pin serial port. Sometimes with those video cards reseating those socketed chips helps. Good video though. Makes me think back to my early days of working on 8086 pc's(anyone remember sips :P)
The four beep code is a simple way to show the motherboard buzzer works.....80's PC beeping is "NEW PC" mystery bag stuff to remain unsolved, same today as it was in it's heyday.
Another pc cool
Mystery tech to mystery pc
Fun fact: the Serial-to-PS2-adapters actually don't adapt anything, they just passes through the signal. The mouse itself has to support both PS2 and serial to work with these adapters. The same goes for these little green PS2 to USB-adapters that was popular when USB-mice started to arrive on the market.
I wish I had a pc like that to play around with.
PS/2 to serial adapters will only work for mice, and even then they only work for mice that can support both protocols, I know older 2 button Microsoft mice did, but I think by the point they got to the intellimouse some versions of the intellimouse support both and some later ones don't.
An AT connector works with PS/2 keyboard with some swapped wires or a simple adapter
Why is there a box within a box for a laptop?
I have very simillar PC. I run into such black screen often while tinkering. Sometimes it was tape connected wrong side, sometimes i had to reset CMOS. Go from zero to hero approuch eventually you will be fine!
With the more mid to late 90s machines you get, the more they need to all be featured in the same video. Say a mid 90s network with an NT 4 file server?
So glad we don't use those ribbon cables for drives anymore. It looks so cramped in there.
Serial keyboard? Would that be a keyboard that would be connected to an actual serial port (DB9 or DB25), or a keyboard that goes to a DIN connector (round like PS/2 but larger), apparently also known as AT keyboard port? That kind of stuff I've used, though apprently some really old PC's (like 8088) might have had different connections, but I'm not sure if the connector would have been different or if it would be just different signaling.
The switch from the larger round connector for keybard to the PS/2 didn't happen instantly. The first PC I had was a 286 and it had PS/2 ports for keyboard and mouse. And I remember that the 100 MHz Pentium PC I had later had the larger round keyboard port. But I'm not sure about which kind of port my next PC after that had.
Welp congrats to your new old pc!
Haw do i get a good cheep pc or laptop as long as i can copy move fiels and go on line so i can copy sd cards
Man, I remember having those AT to PS2 adapters... If you found of those you would be good here...
I thought an AT to PS/2 adapter is mandatory for retro computing when dealing with any Socket 7 or earlier motherboard.
You can just get a AT to PS/2 Adapter and that will take care of the keyboard issues ;)
Already have!
@@MichaelMJD Oh nice :p
Looking forward to the next episode on that machine ;)
6:57 yea this is definitely a MJD video
You have a serial/PS2 adapter? I still have my AT/PS2 adapters IN ADDITION to 10baseT/AUI adapters! Sorry for the flex.
Wow just wow
What sound card was in there?
The purple and green PS/2 colors come from PC-97. PC-99 already has USB!
Getting some major MidWest Micro vibes from that case.
You need an AT o PS/2 keyboard adaptor and the mouse you need the original Microsoft mouse that plug in that small Din connector. Also, for the mouse you need DOS drivers to use any mouse connected.
My keyboard wasn't recognised on my old pentium 1 I think it was and pressing the turbo button and then booting helped for some reason. Then after it booted past bios I would just disable turbo and it would work fine. I don't really know why that helped though since turbo downclocks but worth a try maybe
Nice ended on cliffhanger.... No serial keyboard now i wonder what os and what is on hdd...
If you check that card the PS/2 port is on, it will probably say its for a mouse. Alot of early PS/2 mice came with cards, especially Microsoft mice.
You can buy a PS/2 ---> AT connector adapter and use your regular PS/2 keyboard (that's what I do on my AMD K6-2 build and it works fine)
I Originally Had A HP From 2007-2008 That Had Windows Vista On It And I Had Office 2007 On It!
the $5 98 pc better watch out!
takes me back used to love tinkering with those old AT systems .. but when I moved to another country, my wife sort of stopped me from filing the house with retro junk .. well she calls it that .. I dont I call it history .. funny how they always say your stuff is junk and wants to throw it so she can put here crap in instead ..
Classic mjd moment
They sent you a Cyrix x86? Isn't there something in the Geneva convention about such acts of hostility?
hi michael emm jay dee
Keyboards only work in PS/2 or ATA. They don't with serial. However, I look forward to the followup. :)
Just an FYI. There were never no serial based keyboards for PC's. Only serial mice. Some ps/2 mice (not all) supported serial mode operation using a ps/2 to serial adapter.
4 beeps = unconfirmed beep code
Is the computer equivalent of
I’m fine = unconfirmed mood
I should have kept my ps2 mouse that I tossed last week so I could send it to you!
is that the getting over it music at 5:50
How do i send items?
5:20 real 'ps2' keyboard&mouse lol
I thought you could repin a usb keyboard to work on those old ports?
Thats a project I have with an old 286 I fond in the trash. Just like you it posts... but no keyboard(yet!)!
that would be interesting
5:22 ah yes, i like playing on my PlayStation/2