Warning!!!! I was messing around with this sword and I realized that it ONLY works with magic damage sorceries. You can cast magna sorceries but they will deal almost no damage. This applies to sorceries with physical damage as well. I saw you cast rock sling with it, but It would do no damage. This isnt that bad of a restriction since almost every single sorcery, save for a few, are pure magic damage. Yes the thorn and briar spells are pure magic damage dealing for some reason.
Man, I really wish this thing could buff itself with Scholar's Armament, it'd be able to reach Attack Power comparable to something like a Sacred Cleanrot Knight's Sword with Sacred Blade, would be instantly elevated from the position of being an extremely niche sidearm to something people would genuinely consider running as a main weapon. Pretty please FromSoftware, give me a proper successor to the Blue Flame, that weapon was a work of art and this weapon has the potential to be so much more than what it is now.
That's a cool idea but tbh it made me think of a build where I powerstance this with the rapier while also being able to throw Scholar's Armament on the Rapier.
Hey man ever since DS3 sold really well Fromsoftware knows that fun doesn't sell copies. Blue Flame is just too "mechanically experimental" for the meta-obsessed weirdos of DS3 and ER who'd rather every weapon just be different colors for the same damage and same movesets.
@@monsieurdorgat6864I mean this is a wild take considering the 3 sorcery weapon catalysts in Ds3 with the Heysel Pick being arguably way more Mechanically diverse than the Blue Flame which is not as complex as you’re making it out to be
@@Grimsly3736 Heysel pick was really bad for a really long time. I guess when it got hyper armor it was alright. Besides that IDK what you mean by its mechanical complexity - DS3 in general has WAY less tech than DS2. I mean heck Blue Flame even fits onto multiple builds, because it was also very good for low-int casters too.
I was literally staring at this sword 5 minutes ago thinking to myself "I wonder how Chrightt would go about optimizing this for a build." ...and here we are!
Using this sword when you don't use the thrust is inefficient, but I think it provides unique value that you can't get from a staff. Simply having the option of the thrusting sword poke forces the opponent to play differently - opponents must respect the poke.
It could be fun as an off-hand thrusting sword that doubles at a staff. 2 weapons AND spells! Probably not any more threatening then just a sorcerer but still a fun idea.
@@MetalthinkerYT btw the DLC patch made dagger parries have the same startup frame data as carian/golden/buckler parry, and since its less obvious you are going to parry ive found daggers/curved swords to be the best pvp parry tools post-patch
An argument for using c.slicer with the c.sorcery sword. I’m running it off hand with a Zwei. Off hand you can’t do a running or jumping light attack so I use a running slicer into off hand light and then swing with the main Zwei (rL2>L1>R1).
While I'm glad we got any weapon catalysts- I would have liked to see a few more. I would have really liked a Shield that casts incantations. What would have made my year would be an Ash of war that enables this sort of functionality for any infusable weapon. But I'm sure there's a billion problems in regards to implementing that let alone balancing it.
@@Vsolidlike the other guy said the Sanctum Shield did this as well but for Sorceries, Miracles and Hexes favoring Hexes though, I swear that shield was made for the Dark Greatsword spell
@@TasmanianGodGeo so let me get this right you’d of rather had a normal thrusting sword? that’s AoW essentially just casted Carian Slicer? That’s so boring
Always appreciate the attention to detail you put in these videos! I just finished the dlc with a strength int build. Btw I'm reading through your book right now. Only up to chapter 12 and I'm enjoying it so far 👍
This set up seems quite neat for my Str/int build, plan to add a few gravity spells but will be around 55 int so this seems quite favourable. I usually like more great shields but will make sure that once i finish my Str run for the DLC will try this too, ty
I run this build as well and it is so much fun and strong. I think this video missed the mark. The melee spells are meant to act like your heavy attacks. Heck he said don't use slicer but opening up with Carian Slicer and immediately following with a heavier melee spell causes that second spell to come out quicker. I wish the Carian Knight Sword could actually cast like this one does. Heck when I first got it I expected it too after reading the description.
@ I like to put up Phalanx and use Miriam's Vanishing into a timed Piercer as an opener. If I'm feeling silly instead of Piercer I use the Gavel. Bonk Bonk. And this weapon combo also definitely crushes in PVE. Especially if you can parry
I used this sword with the main-gauche dagger. Thrusting sword powerstance moveset on L1, decent parry on the dagger L2, and spellcasting on R2. Wasn't very good but it was fun.
Arena already was incredibly sweaty, but those headpieced that give bonuses for flask penalty are free stats in duels there. I'm calling it now, those are going to be the new mask of the mother from ds1. Thats all you will be seeing
I feel like the carian sorcery sword should have a hitbox when casting carian sword sorceries like slicer, piercer, and greatsword. Give it a little bit of a unique flair, allowing you to hit with both it and the spell at close range for a little more damage.
I've been running this weapon on a 99 Int build and it's been great so far. For the off hand I use another thrusting sword with the parry ash of war to provide another ash of war option while one handing and to get powerstancing bonuses.
This thing is great for role-compression, having to carry both a Rapier and Staff can be just enough to push you out of the type of roll you want (light-to-medium and medium-to-heavy). Yes it might not be that much in the grand scheme of things, but particularly if you're trying to stay in light load it can be all the difference. Also in PvE I noticed that I tend to use shield-pokes with this thing quite a bit, so it actually works well there, I can't shield-poke with a Staff. Plus if you power-stance Thrusting Swords with this in your main hand, you can use Carian Slicer as your mix-up to thrusting attacks while still having the power-stance Thrusting Sword moveset.
I use it power stances with an Anspur Rapier in my right hand infused with frost, you get power stance moveset, rot/frost build up, you get spells, and freezing mist on Anspur helps frost even more plus it looks cool
I literally made a build just like this last night except with moonrithyl’s knight sword instead to have access to the amazing and low FP cost phalanx AoW when 2 handing, which is very effective. Everyone’s been saying that the sorcery sword is bad but I found it to be quite good in PvP like you said. A very well made and informative video, definitely gave me some more ideas for weapons that would work well with the offhand sorcery sword. Subbed.
Catian Slicer > Heavy thrusting sword attack. Can offhand another weaker scaling staff such as meteoric and benefit from the boost to specific spells while being able to attack with a weapon. Impaling thrust is also one of the best ashes of war that can stance break and the sword has 110 crit.
Hmmm... If they fix the bug that apparently makes non-magic-damage sorceries not get scaling, it'll be nasty with the ability to just drop Grav Missile on the ground as a combo mix-in to pancake anything smaller than a runebear. But I did think of throwing the Carian sword spells on it and they honestly work great. Carian Piercer is just a second, gigantic, magic-based Impaling Thrust that's ideal for targets that back off... Greatblades pair nicely with a stance break setup... And Carian Slicer is just a nice attack combo.
I was hoping this would be similar to Heysel's Pick in DS3, but the sorcery scaling doesn't keep up. Heysel did a nice job with that pick, it hit hard melee but also did really good cast damage.
The fact that the Main Gaughe is in the DLC and you can infuse it with Parry, means you can use MG and the magic sword in power stance, the magic is the gimik f the main blade.
I have been running this sword and the carian thrusting shield, going into poke, bash, poke, bash -> swift glintstone shard and it has been effective for the most part
I did as well. But in bossfights it seemed to come up short. Two of them I ended up using clay man harpoon with ice spear. Two were pretty miserable experiences. This video sort of hints at why. Ended up respeccing to STR/int after getting the gazing finger.
I disagree with you on one point, I think this sword actually pairs really well with a greatshield poke build. Those can't exactly afford to switch weapons in the middle of a fight. Not only that, giving them access to spells on the fly adds much needed and dangerous variety to their moveset. Finally, you can override Impaling Thrust with a shield AoW like Shield Bash or Crash. What's there not to love?
What you're experiencing is not that it pairs well with greatshield. You have experienced the fact that greatshield is so strong it is carrying this weapon. This is experience talking since you have experienced it working well. If you have swapped it with any other weapon you would've done even better.🤣What do you mean those that can't afford to switch weapons in the middle of a fight? It literally takes 4 times longer to cast the quickest spell than swap your weapon. You literally only need to manage one weapon swap on mainhand to get 20% more effectiveness both ways.
@@Chrightt swapping weapons to me feels clunky sometimes but that’s probably cause I’m on controller, I do know what you’re talking about with Greatshields though there extremely oppressive to a lotttt of weapon types and just good against the rest 💀
@@Chrightt If you switch to a catalyst with a greatshield, you don't just lose the shield poke, but the ability to make melee attacks altogether. So while it makes you more dangerous, it also makes you easier to pressure. Trading safety for firepower isn't something you want nor need with a greatshield. The CSS gets the best of both worlds in that regard, it keeps your top defensive abilities, but gives you more punish and counterattack options with spells, and trades some scaling for gameplay flow and opportunities. As a Swift Shard user, you should know how valuable that is. And the cherry on top: it lets you (re)apply Scholar's Shield, one of the best defensive buffs in the game, on the fly. Greatshields in general may be strong, but this sword takes them to even greater heights.
Flame Art infused Carian Dueling shield. If you keep shield strike on it it supersedes the thrusting sword’s ash so you’ll do a shield strike with B scaling in fire. Now you can cast cold sorceries and immediately reset the frost bite with a quick strike from the shield. Cast, poke, bash, repeat. Happy dueling!
Makes me kind of want Fromsoft to give the same functionality to the lazuli glintstone sword (the one carried by the lazuli conspectus sorcerers) It's item description literally states "Apparently once used as a staff of sorcery". And the sorcerers wielding it use it to cast Carian Greatsword. I'd happily have it lose out on some damage and that glintstone pebble ash of war in order to use that 𝓬𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓷 R2 into sorcery combo.
If you’re going to use it in the offhand I definitely still think slicer is a good idea, for the single reason that Miyazaki is allergic to giving left hand weapons a full moveset, fortunately slicer isn’t a weapon, so you get a bonus roll attack and sprint attack
Cool build, I was trying this out with a medium shield with the magic parry because the weapon has 110 crit and basicly use sorceries as ranged damage and to get wider swings on some attacks as well as setting up glintblades to posturebreak faster on enemies that are harder to parry. The damage when build as a critmage is ok but the flexibility of sorcery is definiatily there.
I think the best build for this sword would really be "shieldpoker with a flexible ranged option" which sucks because theres much better options for that exact build
16:38 I don't know if the cut was because you sadly ended up loosing to his tricks, because the fight was too long and tedious from the heading, or because you thought him unworthy of any more screentime, but it was kinda funny to see everyone else getting a full clip and that guy just get discarded for the video.
My shot at using this weapon is with a cold banished halberd, 50dex+50int and radagon icon with quick chip sorceries. Its not original but it surly is a extreamly versatile setup.
Hi Elden Ring University professor, I have a question that is not truly related to this video but could be a quick data check The 1.12 patch notes said they buffed the parries outside of Carian and Golden. How are the dagger parry timings now? And how do they compare to Carian/Golden? Just need to know that, I can't find reliable info online and just speculation, some say it's got Carian startup while other say it's a longer window.
In PvE, I was using it with a shield and it felt quite good having so much versatility, but it's certainly a hard to use build. So many possibilities make you juggle a lot of things. I think it has a pretty high skill ceiling though: you can shield poke, have a weapon art, have any sorceries, you still can guard counter (R1 + R2 at the same time)... I think a really good player can do wonders with it and make up for the 10%-ish difference in damage. PS: You sound so much fluid when you improvise talking at the end! Have you considered loose scripts? My videos' voiceovers became a looooot better when I ditched rigid scripts for loose guidlines.
This weapons' sorcery scaling scales exactly like normal magic damage int weapons. First softcap at 50 and the hard cap at 80. Honestly the difference between 50 and 80 int is only 12%ish sorcery rating. This weapons magic int AR scaling has the same curve as it sorcery scaling so you can kinda go off of that.
Did my first play through on NG+7, reallu enjoying my third ng playthrough with this sword and carian retaliation on my shield. If you are running this sword whilst trying to be meta you're making a mistake, it is a fun weapon and shouldn't be taken seriously. If you could change the ash of war maybe it would be true meta but as you can't its just a for fun weapon.
I like the idea of being able to use a weapon/sorcery catalyst in one hand and a seal in the other. I usually have the SoNaF in my main hand, and PoD staff and the Golden Order seal in my offhand. Swapping between spells is easy, swapping between the catalysts needed though can be a pain. There's an awkward delay when you try to swap catalysts after casting a spell. I would've thought this sword would make it easier to cast sorceries and incantations in battle, at least until I get the Staff of the Great Beyond? I also like to use Mimic Tear but the problem (or well inconvenience really) I run into is having to choose between having a seal or staff in my offhand when I summon it since it doesn't like to swap between other weapons equipped.
I use slicer on it And yeah, you do less damage. But the versatility of three movesets without a single swap is absolutely incredible. As a bonus, you get to keep your jumping off hand heavy if you run it with slicer. So you have even more options.
I think this weapon needs more buffs. Like maybe a unique AoW that temporarly buffs weapon and spell damage that comes from it. I don't see much of an advantage in ER with a catalyst weapon. Take the thrusting shields, for example. There's not much benefit in combining a weapon and shield together but give it a cool moveset with block frames on each attack and you get a unique weapon.
Hey chrightt. Was just wondering if you could make an updated or new video regarding stnce/poise damage for weapons, Spells, incantations, and ashes of war since the dlc has come out.
I've been using the carian sorcery sword in my main hand and smithscript shield in my offhand. Also I'm running a high level quality build where I've got 60 vigor and 40 in everything else.
Built something with the final boss weapon since its aow seems to scale off int (?). Dex requirements for it are not far off anyway (24), put 60 in int, put the rest in str and enjoy a str/int hybrid that performs quite decently. Lord MH, carian as an offstoc. And you can still use the strong stuff should you desire, like cold star fist or the DMGS, at near maximum efficiency.
It's so sad that Carian Slicer doesn't use the spell and the weapon to attack at the same time, that would give it more poise damage and a unique use for the spell
6:00 question : why not use the Great dragon crest shield talisman instead of the great jar? Gives you 5% tankiness for pvp and a lot more for pve. Also do you not switch out your crimson medallion after you get hit? I always switch it out since it’s only good for the first hit. Cheers
This is pure PVP build, so 5% tankiness for just physical damage is not much. I can definitely do hardswap but I make the builds for plebs that just want to try PVP.
I'm still kind of disappointing when I got this "sword" when it's actually a Rapier... I thought I could use Carian Slicer and it'll be buffed by it. It's a Magic Sword, that can let you cast spells. It's a neat item and weapon. Would've been nice if you could enhance spellblade in that method. Sadly, it doesn't even boost any type of sorcery, because it is a weapon that is not a staff... So its only purpose to me, is just an option to cast spells sometimes. You can't really use it as a full caster with a Melee option.
would running a finger spell would be good? And maybe use the dex weapon so more can be pump into mind. I thinking maybe power stance it with Roger rapier. And use one of the taliment for the back step tailman. It would be much more risky of a build for sure but it is a build.
since the weapon is so frontloaded isnt it better to just leave it like 50 int where is not worse compared to other staffs and try to do a more hibrid build with dex or str? like 50dex 50int moonveil main hand or straight up a dex infused weapon and buff it with scholar armament, idk something along those lines? suspicious cut at 16:38 btw lol
How would you optimise the rusted anchor? The options im looking at are pure heavy, duel wielded with the executioners great axe for crits, cold infused, or blood.
The weapon Rogier shouldve had Real talk i think those who like using Rogiers weapon just has a better option to outgrow from it. i think the casting feature should've been its Ash rather then its heavy attack. It looses alot of potential when not also being able to perform guard counters. Argueably though i think thats the point here is that it is a little mediocre in design choices because it isnt meant to perform highly as both a weapon and a casting catylist. Probably why we dont see enemies with it from a logistical standpoint, a proto type weapon deemed not enough to fill its role by the time we find it. But hey, being able to guard poke if people apply pressure up close is a better alternative to only having a staff and shield when pressed i suppose.
What if I prefer having a shield I can both parry with and poke from with my sorcery sword in my main hand, especially when I can apply Scholar's Shield to it?
Could run this same build via dex using something like nagikiba or dare I say it MOOOOOOOOOONVILLE this would free up radagons icon for the grave tali or maybe magic scorp which would boost ur damage as well
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Warning!!!! I was messing around with this sword and I realized that it ONLY works with magic damage sorceries. You can cast magna sorceries but they will deal almost no damage. This applies to sorceries with physical damage as well. I saw you cast rock sling with it, but It would do no damage. This isnt that bad of a restriction since almost every single sorcery, save for a few, are pure magic damage. Yes the thorn and briar spells are pure magic damage dealing for some reason.
$40 untested and unfinished dlc
Ass LOL
Def an odd one, I'd think it was a bug. But we won't know unless it's fixed. Thx for the great info!
@@0hGoodGrief uhh isnt that the way they balanced it so you cant cast everything on the weapon that already has two roles?
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Man, I really wish this thing could buff itself with Scholar's Armament, it'd be able to reach Attack Power comparable to something like a Sacred Cleanrot Knight's Sword with Sacred Blade, would be instantly elevated from the position of being an extremely niche sidearm to something people would genuinely consider running as a main weapon. Pretty please FromSoftware, give me a proper successor to the Blue Flame, that weapon was a work of art and this weapon has the potential to be so much more than what it is now.
Idk I kinda like it as a niche
That's a cool idea but tbh it made me think of a build where I powerstance this with the rapier while also being able to throw Scholar's Armament on the Rapier.
Hey man ever since DS3 sold really well Fromsoftware knows that fun doesn't sell copies. Blue Flame is just too "mechanically experimental" for the meta-obsessed weirdos of DS3 and ER who'd rather every weapon just be different colors for the same damage and same movesets.
@@monsieurdorgat6864I mean this is a wild take considering the 3 sorcery weapon catalysts in Ds3 with the Heysel Pick being arguably way more Mechanically diverse than the Blue Flame which is not as complex as you’re making it out to be
@@Grimsly3736 Heysel pick was really bad for a really long time. I guess when it got hyper armor it was alright. Besides that IDK what you mean by its mechanical complexity - DS3 in general has WAY less tech than DS2.
I mean heck Blue Flame even fits onto multiple builds, because it was also very good for low-int casters too.
Add the Wolf Mask and call it SpellBlaidd is the only thing missing
That is an amazing idea
But the build needs the bonus from the Horned Warrior Helm, and the Wolf Mask would ruin that.
@@peezieforestem5078 you can always adjust some stats
@@peezieforestem5078 5 less endurance is a small price to pay for the funny
5less int +5str :/@@peezieforestem5078
I was literally staring at this sword 5 minutes ago thinking to myself "I wonder how Chrightt would go about optimizing this for a build."
...and here we are!
Using this sword when you don't use the thrust is inefficient, but I think it provides unique value that you can't get from a staff. Simply having the option of the thrusting sword poke forces the opponent to play differently - opponents must respect the poke.
You would think they would have learned to respect the spin -to-win by now, too, but here we are lol
I could see this being really fun when paired with an offhand main-gauche for parrying.
Maybe not optimal, but y'know, wizard fencer.
If you can parry with that...
Rogier, wizard fencer
It could be fun as an off-hand thrusting sword that doubles at a staff. 2 weapons AND spells!
Probably not any more threatening then just a sorcerer but still a fun idea.
@@MetalthinkerYT btw the DLC patch made dagger parries have the same startup frame data as carian/golden/buckler parry, and since its less obvious you are going to parry ive found daggers/curved swords to be the best pvp parry tools post-patch
@@communisticus191 That's cool, I didn't know... Strange that I didn't read that as I always read the patch notes (except bug fixes).
Im glad more people are looking into this weapon
An argument for using c.slicer with the c.sorcery sword. I’m running it off hand with a Zwei. Off hand you can’t do a running or jumping light attack so I use a running slicer into off hand light and then swing with the main Zwei (rL2>L1>R1).
Carian sword sorcery sword
I'm gonna try this!
As close to ds2's full left hand moveset as elden ring's gonna get i guess lol
While I'm glad we got any weapon catalysts- I would have liked to see a few more.
I would have really liked a Shield that casts incantations.
What would have made my year would be an Ash of war that enables this sort of functionality for any infusable weapon. But I'm sure there's a billion problems in regards to implementing that let alone balancing it.
Yea it’s a shame the disk chime didn’t return. The exact shield you are describing exists in DS2
@@Vsolid Don't forget the Sanctum Shield! DS2 just spoiled us - such a great game!
@@Vsolidlike the other guy said the Sanctum Shield did this as well but for Sorceries, Miracles and Hexes favoring Hexes though, I swear that shield was made for the Dark Greatsword spell
Nah they could just make it a thrusting sword and standard shorts word only AoW
@@TasmanianGodGeo so let me get this right you’d of rather had a normal thrusting sword? that’s AoW essentially just casted Carian Slicer? That’s so boring
Always appreciate the attention to detail you put in these videos! I just finished the dlc with a strength int build.
Btw I'm reading through your book right now. Only up to chapter 12 and I'm enjoying it so far 👍
Nice! Glad you're enjoying it!
Chrightt got so frustrated at 16:27 that the clip just ENDS??? 😂
This set up seems quite neat for my Str/int build, plan to add a few gravity spells but will be around 55 int so this seems quite favourable.
I usually like more great shields but will make sure that once i finish my Str run for the DLC will try this too, ty
I wish it had Velka's Rapier's moveset. That was such a cool weapon.
I use it on a dex/int build paired with main gauche and decent armor, using primarily melee spells to expand the moveset..it works really well
I run this build as well and it is so much fun and strong. I think this video missed the mark. The melee spells are meant to act like your heavy attacks. Heck he said don't use slicer but opening up with Carian Slicer and immediately following with a heavier melee spell causes that second spell to come out quicker. I wish the Carian Knight Sword could actually cast like this one does. Heck when I first got it I expected it too after reading the description.
@Writh811 the greatsword into piercer also catches panic rolls at max cast speed
@ I like to put up Phalanx and use Miriam's Vanishing into a timed Piercer as an opener. If I'm feeling silly instead of Piercer I use the Gavel. Bonk Bonk.
And this weapon combo also definitely crushes in PVE. Especially if you can parry
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I used this sword with the main-gauche dagger.
Thrusting sword powerstance moveset on L1, decent parry on the dagger L2, and spellcasting on R2.
Wasn't very good but it was fun.
That's my plan to go
Arena already was incredibly sweaty, but those headpieced that give bonuses for flask penalty are free stats in duels there. I'm calling it now, those are going to be the new mask of the mother from ds1. Thats all you will be seeing
The poor matchup against madness doesn't even come close as a downside, either.
I feel like the carian sorcery sword should have a hitbox when casting carian sword sorceries like slicer, piercer, and greatsword. Give it a little bit of a unique flair, allowing you to hit with both it and the spell at close range for a little more damage.
Been waiting for this one. Thanks Chrightt!
the true combo it allows with the great katana and carian piercer is stupidly good in pvp
God the Great Katana is such a silly weapon mechanically and I love it lol
What true combo?
you actually can heavy-attack with the sword, you just have to press r1 and r2 at the same time
I'm about to test this.
I really like this video. The added pvp games and commentary was also great.
Using this with a scholar's shielded carian swordshield shiuld make it quite fearsome
It is. I used this combo on my spellblade build and it helped me through the DLC.
I've been running this weapon on a 99 Int build and it's been great so far. For the off hand I use another thrusting sword with the parry ash of war to provide another ash of war option while one handing and to get powerstancing bonuses.
just what i needed
i love the gimmick of this sword, thanks for the vid!
Chrightt is also the only RUclipsr who shows duel losses. A true commitment to data and clarity
this is close to something i had envisioned when i first saw the weapon, glad to see i wasnt too far off from the great chrightt!
This thing is great for role-compression, having to carry both a Rapier and Staff can be just enough to push you out of the type of roll you want (light-to-medium and medium-to-heavy). Yes it might not be that much in the grand scheme of things, but particularly if you're trying to stay in light load it can be all the difference. Also in PvE I noticed that I tend to use shield-pokes with this thing quite a bit, so it actually works well there, I can't shield-poke with a Staff.
Plus if you power-stance Thrusting Swords with this in your main hand, you can use Carian Slicer as your mix-up to thrusting attacks while still having the power-stance Thrusting Sword moveset.
I use it power stances with an Anspur Rapier in my right hand infused with frost, you get power stance moveset, rot/frost build up, you get spells, and freezing mist on Anspur helps frost even more plus it looks cool
I literally made a build just like this last night except with moonrithyl’s knight sword instead to have access to the amazing and low FP cost phalanx AoW when 2 handing, which is very effective. Everyone’s been saying that the sorcery sword is bad but I found it to be quite good in PvP like you said. A very well made and informative video, definitely gave me some more ideas for weapons that would work well with the offhand sorcery sword. Subbed.
As far as spells that work well with a melee setup, I'm surprised magic glintblade or phalanx weren't on your list. Nice stuff though.
Smithscript video next please!
I use this a casting tool for my int faith build. Mixing up between speels, pokes, and different abilities. Its a lot of fun.
I would love a video going over how to properly build for the 2 weapons you get from the final boss in the DLC and the differences between them
Catian Slicer > Heavy thrusting sword attack. Can offhand another weaker scaling staff such as meteoric and benefit from the boost to specific spells while being able to attack with a weapon. Impaling thrust is also one of the best ashes of war that can stance break and the sword has 110 crit.
Hmmm... If they fix the bug that apparently makes non-magic-damage sorceries not get scaling, it'll be nasty with the ability to just drop Grav Missile on the ground as a combo mix-in to pancake anything smaller than a runebear.
But I did think of throwing the Carian sword spells on it and they honestly work great. Carian Piercer is just a second, gigantic, magic-based Impaling Thrust that's ideal for targets that back off... Greatblades pair nicely with a stance break setup... And Carian Slicer is just a nice attack combo.
Great video! Want to play with this sword on my int build now
I was hoping this would be similar to Heysel's Pick in DS3, but the sorcery scaling doesn't keep up. Heysel did a nice job with that pick, it hit hard melee but also did really good cast damage.
The fact that the Main Gaughe is in the DLC and you can infuse it with Parry, means you can use MG and the magic sword in power stance, the magic is the gimik f the main blade.
I have been running this sword and the carian thrusting shield, going into poke, bash, poke, bash -> swift glintstone shard and it has been effective for the most part
I did as well. But in bossfights it seemed to come up short. Two of them I ended up using clay man harpoon with ice spear. Two were pretty miserable experiences. This video sort of hints at why. Ended up respeccing to STR/int after getting the gazing finger.
I disagree with you on one point, I think this sword actually pairs really well with a greatshield poke build. Those can't exactly afford to switch weapons in the middle of a fight. Not only that, giving them access to spells on the fly adds much needed and dangerous variety to their moveset. Finally, you can override Impaling Thrust with a shield AoW like Shield Bash or Crash. What's there not to love?
It also works really nicely with the Carian Thrusting Shield for a more aggressive shield poke build
What you're experiencing is not that it pairs well with greatshield. You have experienced the fact that greatshield is so strong it is carrying this weapon. This is experience talking since you have experienced it working well. If you have swapped it with any other weapon you would've done even better.🤣What do you mean those that can't afford to switch weapons in the middle of a fight? It literally takes 4 times longer to cast the quickest spell than swap your weapon. You literally only need to manage one weapon swap on mainhand to get 20% more effectiveness both ways.
@@Chrightt swapping weapons to me feels clunky sometimes but that’s probably cause I’m on controller, I do know what you’re talking about with Greatshields though there extremely oppressive to a lotttt of weapon types and just good against the rest 💀
@@Chrightt If you switch to a catalyst with a greatshield, you don't just lose the shield poke, but the ability to make melee attacks altogether. So while it makes you more dangerous, it also makes you easier to pressure. Trading safety for firepower isn't something you want nor need with a greatshield. The CSS gets the best of both worlds in that regard, it keeps your top defensive abilities, but gives you more punish and counterattack options with spells, and trades some scaling for gameplay flow and opportunities. As a Swift Shard user, you should know how valuable that is. And the cherry on top: it lets you (re)apply Scholar's Shield, one of the best defensive buffs in the game, on the fly. Greatshields in general may be strong, but this sword takes them to even greater heights.
Yep, this weapon is for an intelligence/endurance spell shield build. I made this build, and it has never lost in the arena
Flame Art infused Carian Dueling shield. If you keep shield strike on it it supersedes the thrusting sword’s ash so you’ll do a shield strike with B scaling in fire. Now you can cast cold sorceries and immediately reset the frost bite with a quick strike from the shield. Cast, poke, bash, repeat. Happy dueling!
Makes me kind of want Fromsoft to give the same functionality to the lazuli glintstone sword (the one carried by the lazuli conspectus sorcerers)
It's item description literally states "Apparently once used as a staff of sorcery". And the sorcerers wielding it use it to cast Carian Greatsword.
I'd happily have it lose out on some damage and that glintstone pebble ash of war in order to use that 𝓬𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓷 R2 into sorcery combo.
Do a Sword of Night build, I think it has a great potential
? That weapon has been shown to be extremely good on a lot of videos. Chase, Steelovsky, Lost and others. What do you mean YOU think it has potential?
@@sPaCe_NiNjA187 ey easy buddy, are you mad with your life?
@@sPaCe_NiNjA187 What do you think he means? He's not spouting riddles.
Great job! Perfect weapon for old men, whose best friend is Mr. Fumble Fingers.
If you’re going to use it in the offhand I definitely still think slicer is a good idea, for the single reason that Miyazaki is allergic to giving left hand weapons a full moveset, fortunately slicer isn’t a weapon, so you get a bonus roll attack and sprint attack
Cool build, I was trying this out with a medium shield with the magic parry because the weapon has 110 crit and basicly use sorceries as ranged damage and to get wider swings on some attacks as well as setting up glintblades to posturebreak faster on enemies that are harder to parry. The damage when build as a critmage is ok but the flexibility of sorcery is definiatily there.
Hey you're doing great keep going :)
I think the best build for this sword would really be "shieldpoker with a flexible ranged option" which sucks because theres much better options for that exact build
I wouldn't shield poke with this weapon. Not a chance with its garbage attack.
@@Chrightt yeah it does suck which is unfortunate because otherwise it could be fun
@@ChrighttCan it even perform a guard counter? Or would the spells come out instead?
Friendship ended with Offstoc, Swift Spear and Carian Sorcery Sword new best friends?
16:38 I don't know if the cut was because you sadly ended up loosing to his tricks, because the fight was too long and tedious from the heading, or because you thought him unworthy of any more screentime, but it was kinda funny to see everyone else getting a full clip and that guy just get discarded for the video.
My shot at using this weapon is with a cold banished halberd, 50dex+50int and radagon icon with quick chip sorceries. Its not original but it surly is a extreamly versatile setup.
Or lorettas warsickle for a carian themed build and its one handed jumpingHevy into light attack true combo
Powerstanced with another poke sword, this thing has the prettiest moveset ever. +100 points for the style only.
Hi Elden Ring University professor, I have a question that is not truly related to this video but could be a quick data check
The 1.12 patch notes said they buffed the parries outside of Carian and Golden. How are the dagger parry timings now? And how do they compare to Carian/Golden?
Just need to know that, I can't find reliable info online and just speculation, some say it's got Carian startup while other say it's a longer window.
In PvE, I was using it with a shield and it felt quite good having so much versatility, but it's certainly a hard to use build. So many possibilities make you juggle a lot of things. I think it has a pretty high skill ceiling though: you can shield poke, have a weapon art, have any sorceries, you still can guard counter (R1 + R2 at the same time)... I think a really good player can do wonders with it and make up for the 10%-ish difference in damage.
PS: You sound so much fluid when you improvise talking at the end! Have you considered loose scripts? My videos' voiceovers became a looooot better when I ditched rigid scripts for loose guidlines.
have been using main hand banished knight halberd with the carian sorc sword. Its really really strong
This weapons' sorcery scaling scales exactly like normal magic damage int weapons. First softcap at 50 and the hard cap at 80. Honestly the difference between 50 and 80 int is only 12%ish sorcery rating. This weapons magic int AR scaling has the same curve as it sorcery scaling so you can kinda go off of that.
The design is very human.
Very easy to use.
Did my first play through on NG+7, reallu enjoying my third ng playthrough with this sword and carian retaliation on my shield.
If you are running this sword whilst trying to be meta you're making a mistake, it is a fun weapon and shouldn't be taken seriously.
If you could change the ash of war maybe it would be true meta but as you can't its just a for fun weapon.
Wished it was a light greatsword.
I like the idea of being able to use a weapon/sorcery catalyst in one hand and a seal in the other. I usually have the SoNaF in my main hand, and PoD staff and the Golden Order seal in my offhand. Swapping between spells is easy, swapping between the catalysts needed though can be a pain. There's an awkward delay when you try to swap catalysts after casting a spell.
I would've thought this sword would make it easier to cast sorceries and incantations in battle, at least until I get the Staff of the Great Beyond? I also like to use Mimic Tear but the problem (or well inconvenience really) I run into is having to choose between having a seal or staff in my offhand when I summon it since it doesn't like to swap between other weapons equipped.
You can still have the heavy attack (for guard counters) by pressing r1 and r2 together
Neat. It's still Regal Scepter and Moonlight Greatsword for me though.
Man I love this build! What would you spend points on if you were to scale up to 200ish?
I use slicer on it And yeah, you do less damage. But the versatility of three movesets without a single swap is absolutely incredible. As a bonus, you get to keep your jumping off hand heavy if you run it with slicer. So you have even more options.
Still waiting for that parry video
I think this weapon needs more buffs. Like maybe a unique AoW that temporarly buffs weapon and spell damage that comes from it. I don't see much of an advantage in ER with a catalyst weapon.
Take the thrusting shields, for example. There's not much benefit in combining a weapon and shield together but give it a cool moveset with block frames on each attack and you get a unique weapon.
Hey chrightt. Was just wondering if you could make an updated or new video regarding stnce/poise damage for weapons, Spells, incantations, and ashes of war since the dlc has come out.
I've been using the carian sorcery sword in my main hand and smithscript shield in my offhand. Also I'm running a high level quality build where I've got 60 vigor and 40 in everything else.
The true math wizard
Built something with the final boss weapon since its aow seems to scale off int (?). Dex requirements for it are not far off anyway (24), put 60 in int, put the rest in str and enjoy a str/int hybrid that performs quite decently. Lord MH, carian as an offstoc.
And you can still use the strong stuff should you desire, like cold star fist or the DMGS, at near maximum efficiency.
It's so sad that Carian Slicer doesn't use the spell and the weapon to attack at the same time, that would give it more poise damage and a unique use for the spell
It’s good offhand with a main hand frozen needle
The frozen needle doesnt scale with intelligence
Chrightt can you make PVE powerstance whip build
"we have the Blue Flame at home"
.y plan was to use the new Carian Thrusting Shield
Ill try this with rogier sword, since its heavy does a double poke, and i can have a more powerful variant of its aow as a sorcery
How about build with "Staff of the Great Beyond"?
5:20 what armor is the opponent wearing?
6:00 question : why not use the Great dragon crest shield talisman instead of the great jar? Gives you 5% tankiness for pvp and a lot more for pve. Also do you not switch out your crimson medallion after you get hit? I always switch it out since it’s only good for the first hit. Cheers
This is pure PVP build, so 5% tankiness for just physical damage is not much. I can definitely do hardswap but I make the builds for plebs that just want to try PVP.
Hello Sir Chrightt! What do You think of Miriam's vanishing? I haven't used it for PvP yet but if You learn the timing it's pretty strong for PvE :)
It breaks your opponents lock on and has I frames. Test it out!
@@nmiloslavich Oh that's nice, I'll definitely have to go invading 😁
has the DLC changed the optimal Crit Build?
I'm still kind of disappointing when I got this "sword" when it's actually a Rapier... I thought I could use Carian Slicer and it'll be buffed by it. It's a Magic Sword, that can let you cast spells. It's a neat item and weapon. Would've been nice if you could enhance spellblade in that method. Sadly, it doesn't even boost any type of sorcery, because it is a weapon that is not a staff... So its only purpose to me, is just an option to cast spells sometimes. You can't really use it as a full caster with a Melee option.
Could you build the Milady pls 🙏🙏
Do you have a summery video ? I find this difficult to follow adhd got me messed up
I miss ds3 pvp.......
What do you think pairing this with Beloved Stardust ona 50int dueling build?
would running a finger spell would be good? And maybe use the dex weapon so more can be pump into mind. I thinking maybe power stance it with Roger rapier. And use one of the taliment for the back step tailman. It would be much more risky of a build for sure but it is a build.
This with a fknight gs instead with perhaps some greases
since the weapon is so frontloaded isnt it better to just leave it like 50 int where is not worse compared to other staffs and try to do a more hibrid build with dex or str? like 50dex 50int moonveil main hand or straight up a dex infused weapon and buff it with scholar armament, idk something along those lines?
suspicious cut at 16:38 btw lol
Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword next old buddy old pal?
My build stolen thats amazing!
I am NOT building it no more lmao
All fine and well but what happens on NG+ with two of them I wonder...
How would you optimise the rusted anchor? The options im looking at are pure heavy, duel wielded with the executioners great axe for crits, cold infused, or blood.
why cut the fight against the healer!!!
The weapon Rogier shouldve had
Real talk i think those who like using Rogiers weapon just has a better option to outgrow from it.
i think the casting feature should've been its Ash rather then its heavy attack. It looses alot of potential when not also being able to perform guard counters. Argueably though i think thats the point here is that it is a little mediocre in design choices because it isnt meant to perform highly as both a weapon and a casting catylist. Probably why we dont see enemies with it from a logistical standpoint, a proto type weapon deemed not enough to fill its role by the time we find it.
But hey, being able to guard poke if people apply pressure up close is a better alternative to only having a staff and shield when pressed i suppose.
1:37 two handed thrusting sword is just the best weapon in pvp but ok…
Your build is so annoyingly good lmfao, great job!
17:35 Oh no! you BM'ed yourself
What if I prefer having a shield I can both parry with and poke from with my sorcery sword in my main hand, especially when I can apply Scholar's Shield to it?
Could run this same build via dex using something like nagikiba or dare I say it MOOOOOOOOOONVILLE this would free up radagons icon for the grave tali or maybe magic scorp which would boost ur damage as well