Cristina Cataman: How to Date in Eastern Europe
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Join us for an eye-opening discussion on the concept of 'going where you're treated best' with Cristina Cataman. In this video, we delve into applying this philosophy to dating, exploring masculinity perceptions in Western societies, and uncovering cultural differences in relationships. We navigate through the complexities of societal norms, gender roles, and the impact of geographical location on personal fulfillment.
Cristina's channel: @cristinacataman
00:00 Start
00:23 Applying "Go Where You're Treated Best" Mentality to Dating
2:57 Cultural Differences in Fashion and Masculinity
4:12 Differences in Dating Culture
8:48 Gender Roles in Slavic vs. Western Cultures
12:56 Masculinity and Gender Roles in Different Cultures
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I like how Andrew said, “she’s an influencer, but she’s also a very smart person.” LMAO.
because it's almost impossible to keep those two words in one sentence except "influencers are not smart" haha
Masculinity is not toxic, what is toxic or not is personality. There are a lot of toxic women but i never say feminity is toxic.
I'm a woman and agree.
@@MarinaLaroche Well stated. While I utterly despise feminism, I don't apply that label to every woman ... I apply it to the actions of women who display the traits.
There can be toxic masculinity and femininity is actually a more realistic take and there can be noble masculinity and femininity. Both genders have generalised boons and flaws, but important to note not everyone is the same and there will always be exemptions to the rule
@@funbarsolaris2822 There are people who are toxic. Masculinity and Femininity aren't toxic. It's part of the human experience.
America does not allow calling anything a woman does toxic.
"There is a geographical solution to every problem." - Love that!
Great Quote!
It's not really a solution, just a tradeoff and a very expensive one for 99% of people. It means leaving your social network and family behind. Probably your career. Likely means great effort and expense and possibly learning a new language.
Basically if you're the kind of person that can just move to a different country and make it work, you probably can make it work at home.
Remember this channel is geared towards high net worth individuals who likely don't struggle in the dating market anyway.
Not even the Luggnaggians would agree....
It’s objectively false though. You can solve an inner psychological problem by moving. As another saying goes, “Wherever you go, you are there.”
@@poxpower What if your social network and family are mostly a bunch of assholes. lol
There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity. Men are masculine, it’s nature.
exactly, narcissism is toxic. Not masculinity.
Gobbless Brother!
Do u feel there is toxic femininity?
@@kisms8590 No there are toxic people, they are not female or male, but asshole.
@@kisms8590I don't know how you can associate those 2 words in the same sentence - feminity is one of the most beautiful things in the universe. 🤔
Great interview with Anne Hathaway! 95% of men will have completely checked out in the next decade. Many will have left for other countries or will just live in isolation. But no worries American women, you will have plenty of wonderful immigrant men to choose from!
Anne Hathaway has bigger eyes
Immigrant men will bring their own women and have their own back at home so not likely.
@@aliendroid1 id1ot take. Do not talk ever again.
Great, let the “cultural enrichment” of the feminists commence. I’m sure they will love the worldview of the new arrivals.
@@aliendroid1 it’s called sarcasm bro
" Anger comes from powerlessness". 🤯
Time is money and money is power, use your time wisely.
As an eastern european I have to warn you, the only girls willing to marry foreigners are generally very liberal and progressive. Marrying within our culture is a deeply engrained tradition in most Slavic countries. So it might be much harder to find a “traditional” woman if you’re a foreigner, compared to south america or other more diverse places.
Duly noted
I'm a westerner married to a Polish girl with very traditional values, and will just say that what you consider to be "very liberal and progressive" may not match with the way an American would view that description. I could be wrong.
@@stephenp7708 Yes to some degree you are right, there's also definitely exceptions to what I said. I guess you succeeded despite the odds, good job man.
Compare to south america. Its worse. U be surprise how about how slavic men get scammed n played by latinas. Traditional slavic stay within their own. Exception is they want men with similar look and same family oriented mentality. U be surprise how many slavic women are in argentina n south brasil
I dated an Eastern European woman for over a year. She seemed to check all the "traditional" boxes on the surface, but after awhile it became clear that she had a lot of underlying issues that caused her to be highly uncompromising, demanding, and exploitative. I was warned by the "old hats" about the dating pitfalls when I first arrived, but thought I had found someone who would be the exception.
I don't know what to say except to be careful not to rush into dating anyone and to maintain strong personal and financial boundaries.
The Anglo countries have all lost touch with nature.
Anglo cultures died in 1945.
meh... it was always destined. pax americana is pax britanica is >>>> Pax Romana. so that confusion is baked in the cake I would think.
@@misterchuck6866 Wow, I never considered that. You are indeed right. These aren't accidents. There is a guiding hand at a work.
@@user-fl2eo5fv1r Spoiled by abundance first, then weakened over the decades. Fattened and ready for the block.
Correct
At 4:55 . . . YES! A man who understands what manliness is! Bravo!!!
Some are not taught especially if they are in a single parent home which is a woman.
@@cavelleardiel So true. I was blessed with two faithful parents, including a father who deeply cared about his wife and six children. Thanks!
@@cavelleardieli grew up with my mom until 8. Then my stepdad came into my life who is an orthopedic surgeon and straightened me out. I thank him so much I think he gets tired of it! If it weren’t for him, I would have been such a mess as a man.
Bro i said dating is like war when i tried explaining my situation to my parents. Hearing it from Andrew just confirms my observation.
Elaborate on that
Andrew said it best. Anger comes from powerlessness and feeling as though you can't do anything to improve your situation. I know what helplessness feels like when I was younger and believe me I was angry about it. There were times in my late teens and early 20s where I felt like I was at a dead end. That's a terrible feeling. I eventually stopped taking my anger out on others who had nothing to do with my problems and started doing what I can for myself. I feel like people in the US make dating and relationships harder than they have to be. Many Americans also have a bad habit of setting unrealistic standards for each other. I can't tell you how many times people told me I had to be college educated and have a good job before I can even think about dating or marriage. Yet, a lot of college educated women with good careers are still single wondering why they're not married or have any children despite "doing everything right." Most men could care less about how much money you make. The only thing that really matters is if you take care of yourself. If a man sent me flowers or held the door open for me assuming it wasn't an automatic one, I would be flattered especially if I were attracted to him. 😊
You weren't really powerless, you just weren't focused on yourself. You just said it yourself. Your life improved when you changed but these comments sections on RUclips are full of men and women who refuse to change but love to complain.
Yup. Anger comes from lack of options
From frustration, in other words.
I mean people here already don’t like them so why are you mad if there going somewhere else where people might actually like them who are you to try and control someone’s life, obviously you must be the miserable one if your mad that someone’s leaving because you don’t like them
The US (and I think English-speaking West) is insanely divisive. If you don't choose a side, you are deemed even worse than the enemy. If you differ in even one small opinion, you are vilified. I got so tired of the constant fighting and conflict over every single thing. The only way to avoid it is to isolate yourself at home, and in the city that isn't possible either. Also didn't like the increasingly bad treatment of men by the legal system, culture, media and government. That led to me leaving long term, with the intent of staying away permanently. Life in the East is much more peaceful and yes, I found a wonderful woman there who I married. I never hear the words "patriarchy," "toxic masculinity," "oppression" etc. Nobody knows who Biden and Trump are and nobody cares. It is wonderful.
I'm so happy for you.
There's an awful lot of chimp politics going on, masquerading as something much more sophisticated, and social media platforms appear to encourage that.
I hear your story often. I am looking into asia too. Can I ask which country you chose?
@@jackcarpenters3759 I considered Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Philippines. I chose Philippines because: 1) English is spoken there, 2) It had the most friendly visa requirements for Westerners, 3) more availability of options for US veterans, 4) affordability, and 5) more openness to dating foreigners. Yes, there are elements of some of these in all the other countries, and even lower cost of living in some other places ... but the combination of all these worked best for me. You have to do what is best for your criteria. Some men I know went with South or Central America. I highly recommend spending some time in the country you are considering, before making the decision.
I'm an American woman and I agree with you. Which is why I'm trying to get out of the US for good. Americans don't know how to treat each other. I personally plan on moving to an Asian country and am interested in foreign men specifically Asian men. I've pretty much checked out of American politics because of how divisive it is. People can see me as worse than an enemy all they want. I really don't care anymore. 😒
Forget about western women...it is a lost cause in terms of.LTR.
Not all my friend, not all, perhaps maybe one in 100 you might get lucky but I do agreed the probability is low.
@winnerwinnerchickendinner8809 One in a hundred is the definition of a lost cause. Sure there are a few great women left here. But im not sticking around to try and find them. Makes more sense to go to a different country.
@@blackpillfitness9136 perhaps to you but if that 1 person out of 100 guys or gals met someone and it works, it is not fully a lost a cost but rather a low probability. I feel you big time here in US but I am still pushing alone and play the fields
Dating over seas is 100% better. I was a passport bro BEFORE it was even a thing. I’ve dated wealthy women and women from nearly every race/ethnicity/religion all b/c I wasn’t scared to leave the US.
Basically u love interacial sex than prefer your own women
Great topic
Being from Europe and having lived in the US for a while, dating here is unpleasant.
can you explain exactly
There too many unhappy and sensitive people in the world nowadays… People need to take a chill pill
These trends are definitely related to stress and mental illness. Overwhelmed people want someone or something to blame for everything.
Much more so in western countries
One of my all time favorites 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you Andrew. This is so true.
a meaningful and interesting topic, thanks
Regarding splitting the bill.... depends partly on whether both have economic parity.
No way I will split the bill with a female, she must pay the full bill! 💪 King treatment only
Fascinating!!!
Thank You!
Great conversation.
Beautiful description of masculinity Andrew, much love from Serbia.
Like this new format direction. Among other things, it makes you more three dimensional as a person and possibly enhances the way we see you as a business man. I also tend to agree with your premise that masculinity comes in many different forms globally, but tolerance for such variety in North America would necessarily be a tough sell especially since it’s the seat of global power and dominance often requiring the force of arms where a certain brand of masculinity has historically proven to be a virtue in maintaining such dominance.
I have dated 10 years in america and 6 years in colombia , 3 more years in america, and now currently again in colombia, colombian women are very affectionate, will want to kiss you in public, will want to take care of you. they are very expressive in how they feel ,if something bothers them they let you know so there is no built up resentment. if they do something wrong they will apologize. they are very family oriented. most of my girlfriends were best friends with their sisters. the women fight over you. if a women wants you there is no game playing. in america there is a lot more game playing. of course women have to put more initiative in colombia since it has a really weird culture with all the S3X work and love hotels. in america they don't have that so gives the women more leverage. Also the women in colombia are much more attractive and down to earth.
Amanda..right ! You are a women and you date women ? Sick !
How is the crime ? I've heard it has gotten worse in the larger cities.
Thanks for the thorough data sheet on the Colombiana.
Colombians, is it safe now considering spike ur drink, rob u, is that true or just hype. Since u have direct experience.
@@kisms8590 if you are good at reading people you will be fine. i can look at a girl and know her morals within seconds of talking with her. if you have low emotional IQ and get drunk to the point where any female giving you attention boosts your ego then you're screwed. I also speak spanish well so i do not need to surround myself around desperate venezuelan prostitutes. put yourself in their shoes. your belongings mean they won't have to work for months... they know you're only here for a short while. they have been hurt in ways you cant imagine they have struggled in ways no westerner has. im more concerned about getting robbed by two guys on a moto while out and about. but for that i have my burner phone and burner wallet. some fake cards and fake bills in the cheap wallet. and a cheap phone that i surrender. i keep my real one in my crotch. i also go one step further and wear a stab and bulletproof vest. i have seen a few stabbings here.... everyone knows someone who has been robbed even during the day. it happens...
Christina's observations as an outsider looking in at Western society/culture is really telling, and I'm sure the same is true for any man within that space who is struggling or giving up on dating women. I've had my eye opening experiences with the different mindsets of masculinity when I visited the Philippines and Taiwan last year, and I'm sure the same will apply when I make my first visit to Kuala Lumpur later this month. For any men from the US, Canada, or various western European nations who are having dating and relationship challenges, I encourage you guys to pack your bags and do so traveling. It really is a game changer when you start having interactions with the locals and see how men are treated and respected.
Asia is just more respectful in general, to men, to older people, social etiquette, etc. The West has completely forgotten what common respect is anymore.
Unexpected yet wonderful video
I'm frankly amazed that anyone goes to dinner on a first date nowadays! It hasn't been the norm here in the UK for quite a while now.
I dont do that in america, but i love to do that in colombia. is that a bad thing?
@@amandaburleson2035I love eating out, but as a first date option it's fraught with potential pitfalls.
@@mbrady2329 well ok in colombia dinner is usually the safest option. and cheap. i dont like to be on the streets in colombia. i dont like to be in the urban parks. or places where you can be robbed by two guys on a moto driving by you. what's a good first date in the UK that you do>? coffee?
@@amandaburleson2035 a typical first date here in London would involve meeting for drinks in a pub. Or it might start with a visit to an art gallery or some similar cultural activity, with food and/or drinks as an optional add-on.
@@amandaburleson2035why would you go in a country where can't fell safe to walk on streets? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
The rules of etiquette has never changed. Whoever is the host (the one who asks the other on a date), pays. Traditionally in the world of etiquette, hosting was not about gender, but about who asked the other out. If a man asked me out, I would expect him to pay. If I ask, "Can I take you to dinner" to a friend out, I pay. Just good old manners and the understanding of the role of a host.
No way I will split the bill with a female, she must pay the full bill! 💪 King treatment only
I totally agree!!
Scarves are fantastic, never had an issue 😊
4:53 boom. Well said. Handle your business.
Married to a Colombian, and she loves it when I bring her flowers. Always. In fact, she likes even better when I get the artificial ones. She has flowers that I've been giving her all over the house!
Same here, married a Colombian woman, best decision I ever made in my life.
Also to a Latin American woman. She's wonderful.
Yea notice u dont see colombian/ latino men dating out. Because your women r not attractive
Thank you for saying that Poland is in Central Europe 😉
HAHAHAHHA :D
I remember my colleagues shock in a big bank in UK, reacting just by laughing stupidly, when saw me with a fellow Romanian man kissing my hand in a kind gesture to meet and greet. Old gentlemen manners are for them obsolete.
That imbecilic laughter is the only reaction many people are now capable of in the face of behaviours which they don't understand at any level.
To be fair, that's never been a cultural gesture in the west. It was an archaic form of a man greeting and respecting a woman, which is likely why they were shocked. As much as homosexuality is being pushed, i still would surmise it shouldn't be that shocking.
@@mbrady2329 That Eastern European custom would be inappropriate in the Middle East and in Asia, too. Why bash Westerners just because that's not our custom? 🤔
Here in México, women are beautiful, feminine and agreeable, plus I don't split bills.....and I love it! Go where you are treated best.
that wasn't my experience dating 21 year old women in tijuana.... they have the same mentality as americans. they get offended and feel attacked when you suggest something to them. they are very defensive. they expect you to read their mind. they hate it when you have plans set up for a date and they will try to change either the plans of the date or the day even if im going to pay for the whole thing... also being so closed to america really gave that place a vibe you cant find anywhere in the world. alot of the women have a side guy that is either american or a local who has a visa that works in san diego and crosses the border. its survival mode there , if you have a girl there she WILL accept dates for the free food from other men and you cant stop her its for her survival. they make 10 dollars a day but have to pay the price of american goods and produce. i love tijuana tho.
@@amandaburleson2035 You have to move away from there…. inner Mexico.
Gringo here, and it's very very hard for me to get a girlfriend in Tijuana, only had luck 1 time for a serious relationship. Not the best place for dating mho.
defeintely not, its only good if you live there. those girls are in survival mode and they are always arouund other men (just freinds) and will give up there puccy for a free ride to a guy they know that has a car.... @@realrokr3284
Mexico is more feminist than America😂😂😂
Like Peterson says, when males communicate there is always the underlying threat of force, those are the guardrails of discourse thats says "dont be psychopathic", psycopothy being "gaining short term advatage at the cost of long term relationships". Masculinity is what drives harmony in social structure, because it reinforces that you must make decisions that are beneficial in the long term, or suffer consequences.
Western women get free housing, food, WIC, school for their kids, after school probrams, etc. The taxpayor provides all the food and housing basics for women. When women say they want a husbuand who is a provider, they want to be provided money for the nail salon, nightclub, girls night out, spa treatments, shoes and designer purses. Traditional men have no need for this.
No way I will split the bill with a female, she must pay the full bill! 💪 King treatment only
I agree with you 💯 👍
For me masculinity means, when you promise something, to do it and to take responsibility if you don't do it.
I live in Northern CA - the land of the easily butthurt! Makes me miss living in NYC.
Aren't NoCal more conservative?
@@kyleanuar9090Conservative? More like a choice between Leninists and Maoists!
@@BradBailey-dz1nu jesus...
good change of subject matter Andrew, especially for us who are leaving the west, more of the same please
Yes
Woah I didn’t expect to see you here. Your channel also help clear the misconceptions people have about others with an international mindset in the West.
The man of the hour 💪🏾
Yes.
1:35 I just traveled to the Philippines and saw a couple of guys (one in his 50s) wearing Taylor Swift t-shirts.
This discussion goes over my head 😂
The question of splitting the bill is apparently the most important to her.
One huge problem with the way we view masculinity is if the young kid doesn’t act a certain way he will be convinced he should be a girl.
Nope but he would be mistaken for being gay
Can confirm. I had an easier time dating in Germany than I ever had in the US. The only reason I moved back to the US is because my wife got a work assignment back here.
You should record a video with the lady from Dating Without Borders and talk about dating in Sweeden. That would be interesting!
I lived in Algiers, Algeria for nearly five years. The young women there absolutely spoiled me.
You NEVER touched this topic before!
Not that I remember.......,
By the way I ❤ Serbian Women. 😊
I have never left the USA for any length of time but I got married at 45 years old after doing a lot of dating. I never let this videos topic become an issue unless my date couldn't communicate how she wanted to be treated. A large percentage of my dates couldn't communicate the desired behavior they wanted, in this case from a man. I would go to her car door or business door and ask would you mind if I opened the door for you. Some of their mouths came open and many just didn't know how to respond. My first dates were almost always over a cup of coffee in which some either bought their own or some asked if I was paying for their drink. Many just froze and a few froze in horror. If the freeze syndrome appeared then it was obvious that this person didn't know how they wanted to live the rest of their lives. Perhaps they didn't want to get married or perhaps they never thought out how they wanted to live or be treated. If I was going to be relied on to make the decision for them then what was going to happen in the future if I made the wrong choice for them. Of course if this first date went well I would have a meal at a resteraunt with them, but if this behavior continued then I would end any further relationship. If you are departing from standardized & cultural dating norms then you need to know what your values are and how to communicate these values, especially if you want to get married or establish a long term relationship.
Yeps - much better. Get your passports, Get on a plane - and GTFO o 'merica. it will change your life. I have been abroad for 15 years, 28 countries stamped. My only regret is that I did not leave 'Merica earlier.
Which countries you in now
I am Canadian, and I am questioning Cristina’s choice to move to Canada. I want to get the hell out of here as soon as possible. I guess we are currently a Western country, but if our economy and standard of living go down a bit more we will be out of the G20, G7, and the OECD, and we’ll be reduced to a second or third tier country. I am sure the WEF would love that.
🌹i remember dating CC, Im recovering
I went from being invisible in the US to being a rockstar in SE Asia. I will never date in the US again.
That is likely due to two reasons: 1) Westerners in Asia are comparatively rare and seen as a ticket to (potentially) leave poverty for a wealthier place. 2) As a way to make more money and to support their own family.
The truths in geography, and as it was called at school "social studies"
Briffault's lawBriffault is known for what is called Briffault's law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. - Robert Briffault,
what the name of the restaurant in serbia??
I moved to Mexico from Memphis, Tennessee eleven years ago and married a traditional Latina. I met my wife on a paid online dating site. After two divorces from modern women in the US I am living the dream here in another country.
Notice mexican men in usa. Its extremely rare they date out. They stick to their own women
Interesting. Sounds like it’s more of a USA issue. In England I’ve found women still like a gentleman.
There are those women here who make it a point of principle to hate men, but they're generally easy to swerve as they can't help advertising themselves! 😉
There are also plenty of foreign women in larger British cities, in spite of Brexit.
in america we all hate eachother. we all think we are the best and deserve only the best. we are cold. we are full of ourselves. we hurt eachother. most of us have no support. there is too many cultures and races no one is comfortable in public. there is no feeling of community . we are very passive agressive. we dont say whats really on our minds. most of us have no backbone. we keep things building up inside until we blow up literally like school shootings or something...
Most British women are highly promiscous. You want to be a Gentleman for chicks that probably slept with another guy the day before?
@@amandaburleson2035 you are just a ball of sunshine.
There is a certain appeal to those latin, se asian and eastern european countries where a woman can still be feminine and a man can pay her a complement, open a door or pay for dinner without feeling like he's being attacked or shamed for just being nice or courteous.
Andrew the OG passport bro
Passports (plural) bro! 😉
i brought a girl flowers on our first date and she said that screams desperate 🤯 ouch!
She wasn’t the right one that’s all.
Dude i dont know what it is with the women in this country in the last decade or so. Theyre just so bitter. Its the exact reason men are done here.
Whenever you speak about America you should say which State or city you were at. Maybe at which decade. I just traveled across country in America and spent 6 years in Asia, and things are different in smaller areas. Even different parts of big cities are completely different, plus your social circle. However I'm half French half Welsh (Celtic) and I wish Americans could work in France or that area. I would fall in love everyday, I'm sure. Friends too.
Andrew diversifies into lifestyle topics 🤣
All the millionaire passport bros wanna get laid, and pass on western women.
Yup, he is now targeting the passport bros.
If you've watched his other videos, you'll know that lifestyle topics are usually on the edge of his radar.
Important part of it, after all, the wrong moves here could cost your entire wealth
I married an Armenian man from Russia and I love how he lets me be my feminine self, is a gentleman and provides for me and always cares about my family. The US is missing a lot of family values and I love that about him. I come from a Mexican background so I still believe in men providing fully and I really want the opportunity to be a stay at home mom when I have a baby
Why didnt u get a guy from latin america. Its because u are not wife material. U are americanized
In the West (North America and Europe, maybe Australia/NZ), we are used to a certain set of social mores, particularly when it comes to dating and relationships. For the most part, in the West, it is relatively flexible, relaxed, and not necessarily rigidly defined regarding gender roles and expectations. I am not going to use the word "fluid", but I am going to describe it as relaxed and perhaps more informal. Things like divorce, and alternative lifestyles, though not the necessarily the norm, are tolerated, and there is a sense of inclusion.
In other parts of the world, things are a little bit different socially. In Latin America you have a more "family oriented" culture. Family is more then then just the "nuclear" family. Add to this there is a sense of machismo among certain males, and it is perhaps common for them to have many "girlfriends", even among those that are married. While I do not condone this behavior, it is present more so, and certain people tolerate it.
This family oriented culture, and even the machismo to a point, carries over to the Mediterranean in Europe. It may not be as prevalent in Europe, but it is there in certain places. The family orientation for culture is always present. Moving into Africa, it is more of a family oriented culture. The roles between man and woman are perhaps more rigid and defined. They even allow polygamy in certain circumstances. So, this is obviously different from the West. You also perhaps see a trend in certain places where the elders are perhaps more involved with introducing younger people to potential mates. Still among certain people, a man having multiple "girlfriends" is tolerated, if not condoned.
Moving further into the Middle East, there is a stronger religious tone that takes over. Many of these relationships between men and women are maybe more traditional. There is perhaps more involvement by the elders for introducing the younger people to potential mates. Some may even be "arranged marriages". Casual dating is not as common.
Moving into South Asia, the society perhaps changes. It is similar to the Middle East, but religion has less of a strangehold on this. Also, there is may be a transition back towards a more relaxed approached to relationships between men and women regarding dating. They still may have more defined gender roles, but for the most part, there is some relaxation of the restrictions on relationships. It is a mix between West & East, as many professionals have studied in the West.
Moving into Southeast and East Asia, you will also see varying degrees of relaxation of the rigidity of religion, though traditional gender roles in relationships still prevail. It is a mix between West & East, as many professionals have studied in the West.
A lot of this may do with the level of education each individual is at, and also how much they have traveled. In some cultures, maybe more in South Asia and the Middle East, divorce is viewed as not necessarily a great thing. Same perhaps in in some of the more traditional societies elsewhere. Still, there are areas where they do understand "stuff happens". Divorce and perhaps more relaxed relationships may be present, and perhaps more common in Europe or Australia, but still there are places where traditional views are there.
All societies today are grappling with social change. Some are having to deal with divorce. Both males and females are having to learn and adapt beyond what was once called their "traditional" role based upon gender. You see this in Asia. You see this in Africa. You see this in Europe. You see this in the Americas. You see this in Oceania.
So, I guess my take on dating in the world is that you take the differences in stride, and learn to adapt yourself. I sure have had to in my life. For the last 20 years I have been married to a wonderful woman from Vietnam. Me, an American by birth. There has been a lot of learning for me (also for my wife) as far as societal differences, family differences, and cultural differences. I am viewed as the "Western/American spouse" to a local Vietnamese woman whenever we travel back to Vietnam to see family and related. This has a different implication, then if I was a local in Vietnam. So, it is just learning.
In general, outside of "The West" it is a bit more of a family oriented culture and society. That is perhaps the biggest thing. As with anything, tolerance and understanding is a virtue (along with the willingness to learn).
I want to further add some information regarding Vietnam, and when my wife and I travel there.
First my wife is a dual Vietnamese citizen, and an American citizen. They call people with her status as Viet Kieu. Do not know if it is an official term or a slang term, but that is what she is referred to.
It used to be, when we were dating back in the early 2000's they would call her nasty names on the street in Vietnam when she walked with me. Maybe it is due to their lack of education. The perception at that time, which was/is present in many parts of Asia, is that she was akin to a "cheap woman" that hung around the bars and men picked them up (how else would they find foreigner?). Not so much the case anymore, as foreign men with Vietnamese women is more common now. For the record, my wife is not some "cheap woman", and never hung around any bar waiting to be "picked up". My wife is very respectable. She just happened to find me (and that is an interesting story in itself).
Whenever I travel to Vietnam, most likely with my wife, I do not travel as a tourist in Vietnam. I have what is called as a Visa Exemption. Basically, because I am married to a Vietnamese citizen, I get a different permission to enter Vietnam. I am what they call legally, "A foreign element of a Vietnamese married couple"...the literal translation of a being a foreign spouse of a Vietnamese.
As for how things were when we were dating in Vietnam back in the early 2000's, aside from the perception that I mentioned above, there was a notable economic disparity, that is perhaps still prevalent today. As an American I am perceived to have more money then a local, so whenever we went out on a date, I usually would give the cash to her, and let her negotiate and pay. I would disappear when she negotiated the cost. This way we were not overcharged by my being a foreigner, and we still paid accordingly (yes, they do tend to charge foreigners higher then locals). Many a time, now, my wife politely tells me to disappear when we are in certain markets in Vietnam shopping for things because of this.
Additionally, Vietnam, like parts of Asia, is a more conservative society then the West. Usually my girlfriend at that time (now my wife), when we were dating, was expected to be back at home no later then 10:00 PM. She lived with her parents until she married me. If I did anything "stupid" at that time, well let me just say that it would have had negative repurcussions (on her and me). No premarital sex was tolerated at that time. The only reason her parents and family did not cause trouble for her, when she was dating me, was because I somehow impressed her grandmother and her parents in the sense of my being a "respectable" person. That was the perception. They have always held me in high regard.
FYI: It was, and still is, illegal as a single man to take a single woman to your hotel room in Vietnam (though I know that people do bribe their way through it). Today, every time we are traveling in Vietnam, my wife and I have to furnish a copy of our marriage certificate to the hotel at check-in for them to keep on file during our stay.
As far as how I am treated today by my in-laws, married 20 years to a my wife, they love me. They are very happy. I am on good terms. My father-in-law keeps hoping I would stop being a teotaller so that she can share a beer with me (I usually enjoy drinking hot tea with him).
Usually, whenever we take my in-laws out to dinner in Vietnam, my wife and I pick up the tab. That is normal. There is still that economic disparity, even though my wife does periodically send money to her parents in Vietnam from the USA. I have told my wife the following regarding this. “You know our money situation better then me. Just don’t shoot us in the foot when you do this!”. She talks with her parents almost daily in Vietnam, from where we live in Arizona.
Dude, I am not reading all that
@@dagda3000 You have to. And the saga before it
It is silly. There are aspects that are silly, but it in itself is not. When one loses control of their masculinity that is when it can become masculinity.
In the past few decades I've seen no evidence of men being shamed for being dainty or feminine. In fact it's seen as superior in the West while "matcho-istic" masculinity is disparaged. So I don't disagree with you here but you addressed the lesser problem. The message should be that there's nothing wrong with the tough-guy version of masculinity and such personalities are just as good if not better than the more passive versions.
The main reason why in the English speaking world everything is more extreme is quite simple, media & corporations do their best to make it so. They make more money
that way, and manipulate people more easily thus control them more, and that again leads to more money and power.
All groceries in the US now have parking for pregnant women and people with small children. It's a great thing. And my wonderful husband always opens doors for women. Chivalry is not dead here in the US. (Though with some people, it is on life support.)
Most men here treat women great.
@@blackpillfitness9136 in my family that is definitely true. I would never spend a minute with a man who wasn't a good guy. But in my observation, I cannot agree with your statement of "most". Some do, some don't.
as an Australian.... i found American woman to be amazing. especially from the southern states.
What state in particular?
@@rogerpacheco3600 Atlanta, and Texas.
The South is still more conservative and has held onto its social etiquette and respect. Southern girls are the only ones I would chase in America.
The south is great
As an Australian. Women here are offically broken beyond repair
Anger comes more so from something else than powerlessness. Perhaps, it comes more from injustice for one thing or from annoyances. For example God can be angry but is never powerless.
Annoyance and disrespect cause a large amount of the anger people experience.
With some european women, they expected to split the bill and didn't want to feel like I was paying for being with them - it made them feel uncomfortable as if it were not fair.
I think the biggest problem in America in terms of masculinity is benefit. If it doesn't benefit you its wrong. If it does its right. It's hard to defend people and beliefs when you're constantly getting critiqued by the people you want to help.
In japan now, divorced my japanese american wife cause she was acting up. Despite being surrounded 1000/1 beautiful women in yokohama japan, she was unaware that I could easily have 3 or 4 dates a week with any girl I wanted. My ex was already an 8/10 in america but now Im dating a 10/10 mainland japanese girl within 1 month of divorcing.
Her loss
Was it? If you’re dating 3 and 4 numerically rated women a week 1 month after your divorce, one would think she dodged a bullet. That seems like a cry for help.
@@hipreference you seem like the type of guy that thinks pretending to be a feminist will get him a girlfriend. Good luck!
I guess morals and personality = "acting up".
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Don't you dare overlook what the woman did to him to cause the divorce. You people make me sick overlooking what the women do and not holding them accountable
its always the mans fault. and funkthat knows that deep down inside... the women will be better off without him @@crwnofenlightenment
Ugh! Only in America!
As someone who really likes men, I hate what has happened to men in the West. I loved hearing this podcast because it is great to see someone influential saying the things a lot of us think. Of course men should pay on a date. I love being taken care of and it makes me want to take care of the man in return. I don't see how wearing pink equates less manly. It is just weird. Manliness being leader, provider, partner and self.
I would definitely appreciate a man who opens my doors, ties my shoe laces, brings flowers, writes letters, etc. I find it kind, chivalrous and cool. I don't know how or why it became a 'faux pas' here and yes, I and a lot of the women where I come from are still tough as nails and feminine at the same time.
Give her flowers if you want to. An intelligent woman will certainly be flattered and appreciate the gesture. It's easy.
No way I will split the bill with a female, she must pay the full bill! 💪 King treatment only
The yelling slurs is what happened to me in both Bahrain and Malta,it was just like america on thst
Andrew is expanding his audience to passport bros.
Andrew IS an og passport bro
'Equal rights' means equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Outcome is (at least used to be) the result of luck, aptitude, willingness to work hard, willingness to take risks, ... .
'Equal rights' means that you now have the right to fend for yourself in life without calling for a knight (you choose your color) to fend for you if things get tough.
It is tough to be a man. Women in the West seem to start to realize that.
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. If there were, we would also have heard about a concept called toxic femininity.
Oh yeah, gettin' a share of those Red Pill clicks
This didn’t seem very red pill to me.
Andrew is very Blue Pill.
Only red pill for extreme beta men. Masculinity was normal in western culture not so many years ago. Any middle aged American will understand how radically everything has changed since they started dating.
@rickc.3552 He's redpilled on american slags
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I'm in Romania, and havent dated much but the women are noticeably more feminine. My Arizona divorce was pretty nasty so I dont mind being single for a while lol.
If you want to marry a beautiful wife and pretend it's 1955, then yes, Eastern Europe is fantastic. However, if you never plan to marry and casually date forever, modern life in America (Scottsdale, LA, Vegas) is the best place in the world to live.
US sucks for all kinds of dating. Casual, long term. Its all bad
@@blackpillfitness9136 Not like the 90s, but American girls are still more fun.
Yeah a big mistake of what we did in the West was ditch traditional gender roles. Men's specialize in certain categories that women don't and vice versa. Look at the stats, majority of our military is men but majority of nurses are female. Overall that's why I plan on leaving the West because I want to go to a country where it's fairly normal for a woman to understand what her role should be and then see what I bring to the table to start a family.
I lowkey read the title as "is dating better in other cousins" 😭
SHORT ANSWER,... Yes, BARELY.
A geographical solution is only temporary; this isn't a geography problem; this is a cultural problem and it is a global problem. If this was the 18th century then we could flee and restart; that is not an option. Moving buys you time so far, but it doesn't get at the root cause.
This trend will run out of gas. The goal is to be where it's not an issue and wait for it to exaust it self
There is no solution to the root cause, which is why we are fleeing and buying ourselves time.
Maybe it is a cultural problem, but the solution is geographical.
My eastern European wife appreciates my masculinity. I go to the gym, carry the groceries, earn a lot of money, provide for her, buy her flowers, etc
Good for you. But you better keep earning, otherwise she will leave you in a heartbeat.
Great video! I'm a 6-1, 250# bodybuilder who married an Eastern European woman. I LOVE being married to her. Her cultural values are awesome. She expects me to be manly (provider, protector, guide, lover, friend, bigger guy that makes her feel safe) and I am absolutely enamored with her femininity, which includes her being touch as nails! I love being the bigger guy when we are in her country because she like the attention that I draw. And I'm not scared of wearing pink or purple lol
And I always, always, always - did I say always?? - bring "Mama" flowers of some sort every time I go to the market. And some of her favorite pudding. (Mama is my mil.)
omg i totally invented women having smaller portions at restaurants and told my friends cant believe somebody actually invented it somewhere!
So he's dating again?