it's alive but we can't just say Kendrick and Cole. 2 men alone can't carry the whole genre. if a class has a 100 students and only 2 are passing that's not a graduating class.
Hip Hop is not dead, BUT it is misrepresented thanks to radio stations and social media. Check out: Joey Bada$$, Mick Jenkins, Logic, Bas and Dom Kennedy. Just to name a few artists that can actually rap.
the lyricism in rap is too vain. At first it worked, it introduced fans to a successful lifestyle. How you came from rags to riches. Now it's not working for me it's cliche.How about different topics like a family who lost a member to a war overseas, or mental illness awareness. There's a lot to explore but it's not happening because of money.
The problem is everyone feeling the need to put all types of hip hop under one roof. Lyricists are not the same as turn up niggas, so why are y'all still comparing them?
well said not that I like all the turn up stuff as much. But it still seems kinda weird when its compared to people who make a different style of music. when in reality hiphop is a genre with different styles that branch out of it kinda like a tree.
fair enough and that is fine at this point though at least with turn up music. I do feel like the person who made the beat is more important than the artist though. And making good beats is its own talent so is the production behind the scenes. But I really don't think its that hard for somebody to slap on some auto tune and mumble some lyrics. Then again though I am not really a fan of that kind of music so its not a shock that its not super appealing to me.
In a world where the biggest rapper in the game is known to have a ghost writer doing what is essentially his job for him and everyone being ok with that what hope is there for rap. What hope is there to be the best i your craft if 1 you don't even need to write it yourself and 2 you can have a #1 track by slurring on a hot beat for 3 minutes. Theres no incentive to be great so people settle for a shitty "average"
I disagree Drake ain't the biggest rapper and he ain't the best our generation has to offer I feel like Kendrick Lamar represents my generation and J Cole represents my generation not Drake
Fk Drake. Get that soft azz bs outta here fam. Remember when Pusha T destroyed him? Thats what happens when you put a real lyrical rapper against a fruity juice soft azz artist like Drake.
hip hop in 2016: mumble rappers fire beat barely understand what they say young thug lil yahtcy rich homie etc or rappers who repeat the same lines literally over and over....
Kendrick Lamar J. Cole Mick Jenkins Vince Staples Earl Flatbush Zombies Schoolboy Q Ab - Soul Jay Rock Isaiah Rashad Denzel Curry Chance Gambino Danny Brown Joey Bada$$ Big Krit Freddie Gibbs And countless others are still rapping but dudes want to listen to these dudes who just got a catchy beat and hook nowadays because they want to turn up which I don't mind, But it isn't dead. I can't front 2016 has been a huge letdown in rap music because 2015 was just phenomenal but TLOP & Views were mediocre at best and the albums that bang this year isn't getting enough buzz or being talked about.
+Jonathan McLain yeah I forgot a lot like Logic, Lupe, Dave East who someone else mention Mac Miller, YG and more, it's so much good Hip Hop artist around but people want to turn up more it seems.
Hip Hop was a expression of dance, art and music. You see dances like the Nae Nae, Molly Rock and Dougie and before you say they are dumb look at shit like the running man, hammer dance, cabbage patch and mashed potatoes. Art you see artist like Kanye, Pharrel, Big Sean, Tyler The Creator, Jay Z and Drake getting opportunities to create popular sneaker, clothing and merchandise for the ppl, Music Cole, Kendrick, Vince Staples, Isaiah Rashad, Mick Jenkins, Big Sean, Chance The Rapper, Bas etc. Keep It alive. So no hip hop is alive.
Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business If it got where it started So we all gather here for the dearly departed Hip hopper since a toddler One homeboy became a man then a mobster If the guys let me get my last swig of Vodka R.I.P., we'll donate your lungs to a rasta Went from turntables to mp3s From "Beat Street" to commercials on Mickey D's From gold cables to Jacobs From plain facials to Botox and face lifts I'm lookin' over my shoulder It's about eighty niggaz from my hood that showed up And they came to show love Sold out concert and the doors are closed shut
Man you should listen to underground hip hop which is still alive and well, such artists as Diabolic, Immortal technique, Token Shizzy Siz and so on. And you should still listen to old school like nas, big pac and shit like that...
EagleZtoTheGrave honestly it is their damn fault. for the simple reason they co-sign drake and all that booty migos shit they listen to on a radio. and they have the nerve to trash underground artists like yachty. and j cole does not have the juice my friend... like at all
thank you. I love how people say hip hop is dead but look over lyricists like Kendrick and Cole that aren't mumbling like these guys that are getting the most playtime.
The lack of samples has made it very hard for quality cuts to be coming out these days. All these great rappers of the past used samples, off the hook DJ's or a creative beat with a hook. Those previous tools were essential for a quality hit and at times can mask a lyrical weakness. Since the cost of acquiring a sample is so expensive, a label isn't going to front the cost for a unproven act.
This conversation reminds me of when I was a kid my parents would hear my music (mostly the artists they’re mentioning) and say this isn’t real music and reference the old school original rappers saying the music from their days was better. I just feel like it’s our turn to look down on this music the same way, every generation has their preferences
Some good underground rappers/producers for people to check out: Oddisee, Akua Naru Black Milk Nitty Scott MC Vanilla Zion I Blitz the Ambassador Yugen Blakrok Gavlyn Cunninlynguists Natti Sheisty Khrist
Hip hop now has changed so much it's not dead but it's dying like back in the day it was real like you could feel the struggle in the lyrics you could feel that what they say in the lyrics are true. I was born in this generation but I decided to listen into the music of back then and found the soul. Now you just got most rappers that just chat so much trash like they wanna be something they are not.
What kills me tho is when I hear niggas say "we not tryna hear no deep conscious rap etc in the club" like no shit that isn't what most people are saying when they talk about a lot of these shitty rappers out here. Even if you go back to like the early 2000's when we wasn't using the word *Turn Up* the music you would hear in the club didn't sound like niggas were mumbling or niggas like Lil Uzi, Yachty, 21Savage, Kodak and etc would not get a pass with this shit.....Future said it best tho nowadays people wanna hear this abc rap so I guess we just gotta deal with it till it dies out
+freshkid1124 kendrick and eminem, sure. J cole, is probably debatable, but k dot and em are one of the best to ever to do it, whether u like it or not
Hip hop is dead! I've listened to hip hop all my life. and I have no issue with saying it's dead. About 08-09 I said I'm done. the industry let just about anyone in, auto tune took over and talent took a backseat to influence. Skinny jeans, cough syrup, mumbling, men acting like women the list goes on. R.i.p. my hip hop experience 1988-2009.
Hiphop was assassinated because we couldn't find anymore talent which is hard so we changed the art where any man can do it therefore business is even better....📼
Hip Hop is dead. The youth have no regard or respect or knowledge of the culture. Lyrics don't matter anymore. Everyone sounds the same. Everyone is doing the same thing. They rap alittle they sing alittle. Even the rappers you claim to be nice in this video ain't really nice. Alot of overrated M.C's out there. No M.C today is even in my top 50 M.C's
I'm 15 , almost 16 , and Honestly I wish I got to live back in the late 80s and 90s where the bests of hip hop and gangsta rap were creating and killing the game
Hip Hop will never die to me.If you don't like the new shit, there are way too many options for you to listen to older stuff or find what you do like to listen to.
I think hip hop is dead...hip hop was all about rapping for the love of the culture or a way to express yourself without violence... Beefing through lyrics... Now hip hop is all about getting the new Jordan's and getting money, f****** bitches, drugs and saying how better you are then the next person, that's not how hip hop started. All good this are meant to die you know? There's only a select few I would call rappers, but for the rest of them... I call the artist.
You can't blame the rappers, the blame is on the listeners. Niggas put out minimal lyrics and banging 808s and fucking blow i.e. Lil Uzi. He's smart though. Literally right now, the MORE you RAP, the LESS niggas will LISTEN. Uzi used to actually try, but now that he stopped look where he's at. Being lyrically hardened only works for some, but not many nowadays. Drake isn't even as lyrical as Kendrick, but Drake is still way bigger than him... Once again, the listeners are to blame.
Drake ain't lyrical his writers are ......but you right the listeners let his weak ass get so big back in the day you ain't write yo own bars you were done now it's like "oh ok one dance still cool tho sooooo"
Ikr. I went on SoundCloud and listened to Uzi's old stuff and he wasn't even that bad but now his songs have like 4 lines and auto tune and he says the hooks over and over with the beat drowning it out he's so popular. bullshit its like people don't care
+Aja Moore that's why I listen to old hip hop and Kendrick and cole for the new .....I won't lie I'm guilty of listening to a few songs from some of those rappers but I only listen for the beat....pointless to listen to the actual lyrics they don't say anything
+Dre Oblivion I can't get pass the fact he used them in the first place...maybe he is lyrical but until he can ACTUALLY make a freestyle (I'm talking bout no pen and pad no iphone). Straight from the dome then I'll change my mind as of now I'm gonna keep assuming someone else made these so called 'bangers'
From someone who appreciates Old and New School, It's far from dead and their artists who are not exactly Mainstream and are not completely obscure that you can find rather easily like say a Vince Staples.
I don't know if hip hop is dead but watching da trailer for "don't breath " which is basically an blind , old man killing ppl definitely shows gud horror movies are dead. wats next an old lady killing ppl with her diabetes medicine? wtf ?
This is amazing conversation, As someone who grew up in the 80's and loved rap.....and to see the slow decline is depressing....as well as the shift from social change to strait up drug usage and demeaning of women.
+ryanF J. Cole is just super basic to me, he doesn't really do anything that sets him apart. I think people just give him a lot of credit because he's one of the only real lyricists in the mainstream so when you compare him to future and young thug, yeah he seems amazing, but there are so many better lyricists if you just look deeper. But like I said my main problem with him is just that he is super basic. Also just cause your record sells a lot of copies doesn't automatically make you good
Chance, Kendrick, J Cole, Mick Jenkins, Joey Badass, Earl Sweatshirt, Isaiah Rashad, ScHoolboy Q, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples, Tut, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers, Jay Rock etc... Yall need to wake up
In my humble opinion, hip hop will never die. Although media and the music industry culturally appropriated hip hop during the 2000s, in the bling era, there were other underground rappers who were trying to make hip hop what it used to be, for example, Common and even young Kanye West. Because of the internet and the media, most music is easily consumed and easily put out. Also, I think that hip hop is also broadening its never ending colorful palette, in terms of sound and even lyrics. In terms of sound, we have producers now that are becoming artists, and they get to shine now with the artists they put on as their supporters. Lyrics are dumbed down unfortunately, but there are a lot of rappers out there who still have bars for days and many quotables.
I like how they have a whole bunch of Rap albums in the back. But also Have Santana's debut album. BTW if you haven't heard that album I suggest you buy it. It was the first time Rock and Roll with Latin rhythms were mixed.
Grime is the only genre that has kept it's authenticity, lyrically, culturally and creates an understanding of what it's like to live in the UK. UK stand up 👍 the irony is that we used to look up to Americans in rap, but now we are running our own wave and starting to make moves. SHOUTOUT big narstie, bugzy malone, frisco and lady leshurr keeping our version of hip hop alive
I used to think that hip hop was dead 'cause all these rappers on the radio cant rap and songs are nothing without a good beat. All these songs these days the beats are whats really doing all the work and they arent even the one making it, but there are alot of good underrated rappers out there like, Big KRIT, Hopsin, Immortal Technique, etc. You guys said some true shit
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This man said ''Hip Hop has become less of an outlet for social change and more of a distraction from it'' WORD UP !
MMA king Truth.
i can listen to slink talk about everything for hours..he need a damn podcast
truuuu
for real
Agreed! I never knew slink was so intelligent bc so many of his skits don't have him doing anything that requires any intelligent discussion
I second that! him and Teddy Ray.
That's probably the most logical thing I've heard all day
it's alive but we can't just say Kendrick and Cole. 2 men alone can't carry the whole genre. if a class has a 100 students and only 2 are passing that's not a graduating class.
Factz but we got logic n chance n Bryson so it ain't that bad
lol bryson tiller isn't hip-hop
Hip hop is underground kinfolk.
kendrick and cole are the most overhyped, trashiest artists of this generation. they are straight up pop rap in the vein as drake and rae srmmemed
If y'all are looking for some fresh new original hiphop check out the RUclips page: ValuePushCo
Hip Hop is not dead, BUT it is misrepresented thanks to radio stations and social media.
Check out: Joey Bada$$, Mick Jenkins, Logic, Bas and Dom Kennedy. Just to name a few artists that can actually rap.
If y'all are looking for some fresh new original hiphop check out the RUclips page: ValuePushCo
YES BAS AND JOEY ARE AMAZING
earl sweatshirt
Rj, joe moses, casey veggies, jay 305
Don't forget other uk MC's like lowkey and Akala.
Slink low key intelligent
Right?! I had no idea!
Khaieem Colbert lowkey? why? I could tell before this
It's not dead it's definitely in a full body cast
Lol
lol!!
+yusef21595 Damn. 😂😂😂 Can't blame your frustration though.
the doctors need better medicine
😂😂
Nobody gonna point out the guy trying to steal the records??? -_- okay....
shhhhhhhhhh
The camera man did lol
Amber Williams 😂😂😂😂
Hip hop died when beats became more important then lyrics it's supposed to be equal full energy on both sides
speak on it
the lyricism in rap is too vain. At first it worked, it introduced fans to a successful lifestyle. How you came from rags to riches. Now it's not working for me it's cliche.How about different topics like a family who lost a member to a war overseas, or mental illness awareness. There's a lot to explore but it's not happening because of money.
Even beats before this 808 digital bullshit were way better. Boom baps with soul samples...the 90's until 2010 was the best era
I'm 16 and damm 80s-90s hip hop was and still is the best
The problem is everyone feeling the need to put all types of hip hop under one roof. Lyricists are not the same as turn up niggas, so why are y'all still comparing them?
well said not that I like all the turn up stuff as much. But it still seems kinda weird when its compared to people who make a different style of music. when in reality hiphop is a genre with different styles that branch out of it kinda like a tree.
its different positions in the same sport. of course you gunna compare it. there's a lane for it but its not rap.
eugene mccabe i disagree
fair enough and that is fine at this point though at least with turn up music. I do feel like the person who made the beat is more important than the artist though. And making good beats is its own talent so is the production behind the scenes. But I really don't think its that hard for somebody to slap on some auto tune and mumble some lyrics. Then again though I am not really a fan of that kind of music so its not a shock that its not super appealing to me.
no worries man everyone can have an opinion.
That dude in the background bruh lmao
Lol did nobody notice him haha
+Verrks 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
+Verrks the camera guy apparently did
lmfao 😭😭😭
In a world where the biggest rapper in the game is known to have a ghost writer doing what is essentially his job for him and everyone being ok with that what hope is there for rap. What hope is there to be the best i your craft if 1 you don't even need to write it yourself and 2 you can have a #1 track by slurring on a hot beat for 3 minutes. Theres no incentive to be great so people settle for a shitty "average"
Who you talking about Meek Millz?
drakes pop not rap.
I disagree Drake ain't the biggest rapper and he ain't the best our generation has to offer I feel like Kendrick Lamar represents my generation and J Cole represents my generation not Drake
Fk Drake. Get that soft azz bs outta here fam. Remember when Pusha T destroyed him? Thats what happens when you put a real lyrical rapper against a fruity juice soft azz artist like Drake.
hip hop in 2016: mumble rappers fire beat barely understand what they say young thug lil yahtcy rich homie etc or rappers who repeat the same lines literally over and over....
I think you mean mainstream rap
+I V47 that's what i'm saying mainstream is trash and underground is lit
+I V47 what's mainstream rap? I listen to rnb
Jdawg DeBoest the shit hear on the radio and see on tv
+Ayzoh oooooh right they them songs on the radio 20x a day at least
Kendrick Lamar
J. Cole
Mick Jenkins
Vince Staples
Earl
Flatbush Zombies
Schoolboy Q
Ab - Soul
Jay Rock
Isaiah Rashad
Denzel Curry
Chance
Gambino
Danny Brown
Joey Bada$$
Big Krit
Freddie Gibbs
And countless others are still rapping but dudes want to listen to these dudes who just got a catchy beat and hook nowadays because they want to turn up which I don't mind, But it isn't dead. I can't front 2016 has been a huge letdown in rap music because 2015 was just phenomenal but TLOP & Views were mediocre at best and the albums that bang this year isn't getting enough buzz or being talked about.
W
I like that list, I'd add a few but that's good
Dave East, logic, and hopsin💯
+Jonathan McLain yeah I forgot a lot like Logic, Lupe, Dave East who someone else mention Mac Miller, YG and more, it's so much good Hip Hop artist around but people want to turn up more it seems.
+Jonathan McLain Yeah Pusha T
meek mill dreams and nightmares intro is a classic.
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💯
Lmao This is exactly what i was thinking.
AMAD shit is trash
Meek Mill and classic are not to be used in the same sentence
"Hip-Hop" has been dead...this is "Rap" what we hear now which is trash as fuck now
Hip Hop was a expression of dance, art and music. You see dances like the Nae Nae, Molly Rock and Dougie and before you say they are dumb look at shit like the running man, hammer dance, cabbage patch and mashed potatoes. Art you see artist like Kanye, Pharrel, Big Sean, Tyler The Creator, Jay Z and Drake getting opportunities to create popular sneaker, clothing and merchandise for the ppl, Music Cole, Kendrick, Vince Staples, Isaiah Rashad, Mick Jenkins, Big Sean, Chance The Rapper, Bas etc. Keep It alive. So no hip hop is alive.
+Mick Jenkins word
ken hiphop is dead
Lil Snupe was one of the realest freestylers/ rappers of this decade
for real I wish he was still around
+eugene mccabe RIP Lil Snupe
for real tho
meek mill murdered that ngga cuz he was jealous and scared of what he could've been (something he don't got)
+The Movement meek mill aint kill nobody you dumbass. Snupe got killed just because of a dice game
Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game
Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business
If it got where it started
So we all gather here for the dearly departed
Hip hopper since a toddler
One homeboy became a man then a mobster
If the guys let me get my last swig of Vodka
R.I.P., we'll donate your lungs to a rasta
Went from turntables to mp3s
From "Beat Street" to commercials on Mickey D's
From gold cables to Jacobs
From plain facials to Botox and face lifts
I'm lookin' over my shoulder
It's about eighty niggaz from my hood that showed up
And they came to show love
Sold out concert and the doors are closed shut
nice
Hip Hop is well past its peak, this is more of a post Hip Hop era we're in now... Just happy I was around for the real shit
The Cooler has become one of my favorite series on the channel. Please continue with these conversations & I'll join these convos soon, believe me.
This episode was DOPE
Till this day
This is probably the best Cooler talk to date on this channel. A lot of great points were made
At the end of the day this xxl class was the worst
eye didn't like this year but last year has to be the #1 worst
The only good one was Gherbo
+Juke Gaming true but as a whole this class was horrible
Paak's freestyle was horrible, but everything else, if you're a RnB and groove fan, is amazing from him.
+Zay Braxton did you not see 2015's list
Distraction from social change...couldn't have said it better myself. You're putting some real thought into these episodes Scarlett. Kudos.
shit he said bout his great grandad killed me
"he was a savage booty eater"
Realest and most sensible debate about rap I've seen thus far.
Only rappers I listen to - Kendrick,J Cole, Chance,Vince Staples, Earl Sweatshirt and Edubble
Oh and Action Bronson
Man you should listen to underground hip hop which is still alive and well, such artists as Diabolic, Immortal technique, Token Shizzy Siz and so on. And you should still listen to old school like nas, big pac and shit like that...
EagleZtoTheGrave honestly it is their damn fault. for the simple reason they co-sign drake and all that booty migos shit they listen to on a radio. and they have the nerve to trash underground artists like yachty. and j cole does not have the juice my friend... like at all
+DarkKai 33 Sixx is the dude. 🔥🔥🔥
dave east, vic mensa, denzel curry.
Slink been OG status for a while. Homie has a smooth way of expressing his opinion ✌💯
popular hip hop is dead
thank you. I love how people say hip hop is dead but look over lyricists like Kendrick and Cole that aren't mumbling like these guys that are getting the most playtime.
Exactly people complain about mainstream rap but don't want to do research to find good rappers
+Joseph Lopez You took the words right out of my mouth, Exactly!!
+Joseph Lopez You took the words right out of my mouth, Exactly!!
+Joseph Lopez You took the words right out of my mouth, Exactly!!
The lack of samples has made it very hard for quality cuts to be coming out these days. All these great rappers of the past used samples, off the hook DJ's or a creative beat with a hook. Those previous tools were essential for a quality hit and at times can mask a lyrical weakness. Since the cost of acquiring a sample is so expensive, a label isn't going to front the cost for a unproven act.
i feel you tahir ✊
hip hop is a disgrace nowadays
This was probably one of the best discussions on this show
I wish Mac Miller was recognized more often in these types of conversations, because he really is one of the best hip-hop artists around today.
mfers sleeping on miller dude can rap
omg people sleep on him so hard
Yep
+thatlsk Your attitude is whack
Shay Magleby 😒
This conversation reminds me of when I was a kid my parents would hear my music (mostly the artists they’re mentioning) and say this isn’t real music and reference the old school original rappers saying the music from their days was better. I just feel like it’s our turn to look down on this music the same way, every generation has their preferences
Some good underground rappers/producers for people to check out:
Oddisee,
Akua Naru
Black Milk
Nitty Scott MC
Vanilla
Zion I
Blitz the Ambassador
Yugen Blakrok
Gavlyn
Cunninlynguists
Natti
Sheisty Khrist
This is one of my favorite episodes. Serious, honest dialogue.
wait a second, is the dude with the red shirt lammar from GTA V?
Yep
Breh!!! Good catch!!
Yea sometimes its kinda Trippy when I here Lamar talking in ADD
Slink Johnson is in his element; he provided such an intellectual tone to this discussion. If possible he should become a regular on The Cooler.
TPAB is a classic. Honestly!
After watching Straight Out of Compton yesterday, I think what John Scarlet said at the was really accurate and perfectly wraps up this video.
Hip Hop is on life support
Hip hop now has changed so much it's not dead but it's dying like back in the day it was real like you could feel the struggle in the lyrics you could feel that what they say in the lyrics are true. I was born in this generation but I decided to listen into the music of back then and found the soul. Now you just got most rappers that just chat so much trash like they wanna be something they are not.
What kills me tho is when I hear niggas say "we not tryna hear no deep conscious rap etc in the club" like no shit that isn't what most people are saying when they talk about a lot of these shitty rappers out here. Even if you go back to like the early 2000's when we wasn't using the word *Turn Up* the music you would hear in the club didn't sound like niggas were mumbling or niggas like Lil Uzi, Yachty, 21Savage, Kodak and etc would not get a pass with this shit.....Future said it best tho nowadays people wanna hear this abc rap so I guess we just gotta deal with it till it dies out
hip hjop in the early 2000's was good
I blame future tho
Taurean Myles naw shit went bad way before Future blew up like he did, i even listen to some of his music but he ain't the problem tho
yeah I mean we had Snoop, Chingy, Ludacris, 50 Cent, Twista...
This is the most real, most intriguing and my down right favourite cooler episode
Mainstream hip hop is dead not the hip hop as a whole
Amazing discussion. That change needs to be brought in a big way
J Cole and Kendrick Lamar and eminem G.O.A.T.S
do you know what g.o.a.t stands for?
I had toput it plural cause im talking about more than one person go criticize somebody else's comment bra like really dfwm
+jaylen richardson no i meant out of all the great rappers "of all time" your going with them
+jaylen richardson well if it's greatest of all time there can only be one
+freshkid1124 kendrick and eminem, sure. J cole, is probably debatable, but k dot and em are one of the best to ever to do it, whether u like it or not
Breakin and graph writing are the 2 elements of hiphop that fully maintains the traditions of hiphop
Sampling is an art form.
Just putting it out there.
thank you fellas i needed to hear this!!
Lil Susie Skirt 😂😂😂
Tae Aubrey Best part of the video!!
I will 100% be listening to 2014 Forrest Hills Drive 10 years from now! Classic!
Hip hop is dead! I've listened to hip hop all my life. and I have no issue with saying it's dead. About 08-09 I said I'm done. the industry let just about anyone in, auto tune took over and talent took a backseat to influence. Skinny jeans, cough syrup, mumbling, men acting like women the list goes on. R.i.p. my hip hop experience 1988-2009.
Hiphop was assassinated because we couldn't find anymore talent which is hard so we changed the art where any man can do it therefore business is even better....📼
Glenmore S not true at all there is talent but niggas ain’t listening and continue to support bullshit.
I didnt know Slink was so intelligent honestly, the way he went on about these rappers was pretty enlightening to his character.....
man you brothas speaking facts
This was dope ...y'all gotta do more subjects like this
Hip Hop is dead. The youth have no regard or respect or knowledge of the culture. Lyrics don't matter anymore. Everyone sounds the same. Everyone is doing the same thing. They rap alittle they sing alittle. Even the rappers you claim to be nice in this video ain't really nice. Alot of overrated M.C's out there. No M.C today is even in my top 50 M.C's
No it isn't dude.
I'm 15 , almost 16 , and Honestly I wish I got to live back in the late 80s and 90s where the bests of hip hop and gangsta rap were creating and killing the game
lil uzi can actually rap btw
Someone finna tell me where Tahir got that Tribe Called Quest shirt??? Too nice bruh
we chased dope fiends with broken glass lmao
Hip Hop will never die to me.If you don't like the new shit, there are way too many options for you to listen to older stuff or find what you do like to listen to.
this gets a like for the dude stealing the jayz record in the background😂😂😂😂
That’s was the best freshman class everybody on it either got nominated for a Grammy or won a grammy
J. Cole J. Cole J. Cole
This was a dope conversation. I definitely agree with all involved, though i gotta side more with Tahir on this one. Great job guys
I think hip hop is dead...hip hop was all about rapping for the love of the culture or a way to express yourself without violence... Beefing through lyrics... Now hip hop is all about getting the new Jordan's and getting money, f****** bitches, drugs and saying how better you are then the next person, that's not how hip hop started. All good this are meant to die you know? There's only a select few I would call rappers, but for the rest of them... I call the artist.
You're not looking right then
The only rap that aint have violence in the lyrics was maybe the 80s
+Just a kd fan Stop generalizing
Freestyle isn't always off the dome free style means that the artist is rapping to their own style
You can't blame the rappers, the blame is on the listeners. Niggas put out minimal lyrics and banging 808s and fucking blow i.e. Lil Uzi. He's smart though. Literally right now, the MORE you RAP, the LESS niggas will LISTEN. Uzi used to actually try, but now that he stopped look where he's at. Being lyrically hardened only works for some, but not many nowadays. Drake isn't even as lyrical as Kendrick, but Drake is still way bigger than him... Once again, the listeners are to blame.
Drake ain't lyrical his writers are ......but you right the listeners let his weak ass get so big back in the day you ain't write yo own bars you were done now it's like "oh ok one dance still cool tho sooooo"
Ikr. I went on SoundCloud and listened to Uzi's old stuff and he wasn't even that bad but now his songs have like 4 lines and auto tune and he says the hooks over and over with the beat drowning it out he's so popular. bullshit its like people don't care
+Aja Moore that's why I listen to old hip hop and Kendrick and cole for the new .....I won't lie I'm guilty of listening to a few songs from some of those rappers but I only listen for the beat....pointless to listen to the actual lyrics they don't say anything
pretty much the thing that kills me though is the fans of the turn up music instantly label you a hater if you just dont like it
+Dre Oblivion I can't get pass the fact he used them in the first place...maybe he is lyrical but until he can ACTUALLY make a freestyle (I'm talking bout no pen and pad no iphone). Straight from the dome then I'll change my mind as of now I'm gonna keep assuming someone else made these so called 'bangers'
From someone who appreciates Old and New School, It's far from dead and their artists who are not exactly Mainstream and are not completely obscure that you can find rather easily like say a Vince Staples.
Slinks first name is Gerald #staywoke
This was a good cinversation and I felt where everyone was coming from. Thumbs up.
I don't know if hip hop is dead but watching da trailer for "don't breath " which is basically an blind , old man killing ppl definitely shows gud horror movies are dead. wats next an old lady killing ppl with her diabetes medicine? wtf ?
that shit look scary
NorseGodOdin not 2 me it doesn't
This is amazing conversation, As someone who grew up in the 80's and loved rap.....and to see the slow decline is depressing....as well as the shift from social change to strait up drug usage and demeaning of women.
The fact that Drake is #1 and he doesn't write his own raps yet yal support him is proof hiphop dead sadly
Drake makes pop music
is there still going to be a cooler video on friday? Really feeling the series, good job for everyone involved
Kendrick is so overrated. He's not top ten greatest of all time.
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Nah Kendrick deserves all the recognition he gets, if anyone is overrated it's J. Cole
MrLooneyGMS
You think Kendrick is top ten greatest of all time?
+TooMuchEdge right now, no, but I think if he keeps going the way he is he will be
+ryanF J. Cole is just super basic to me, he doesn't really do anything that sets him apart. I think people just give him a lot of credit because he's one of the only real lyricists in the mainstream so when you compare him to future and young thug, yeah he seems amazing, but there are so many better lyricists if you just look deeper. But like I said my main problem with him is just that he is super basic.
Also just cause your record sells a lot of copies doesn't automatically make you good
Great conversation about HipHop!
Whoever says hip hop is dead needs to stfu. There's so much great music being made nowadays. You just have to look for it
Chance, Kendrick, J Cole, Mick Jenkins, Joey Badass, Earl Sweatshirt, Isaiah Rashad, ScHoolboy Q, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples, Tut, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers, Jay Rock etc... Yall need to wake up
lloyd banks is back in the studio 2
Agreed
DuckSeazon47 no there isn't, and the fact that you have to look for it shows it's dead
thedondon911911 That makes no sense. If you don't want to look for music, then claim it's "dead", that's your problem
In my humble opinion, hip hop will never die. Although media and the music industry culturally appropriated hip hop during the 2000s, in the bling era, there were other underground rappers who were trying to make hip hop what it used to be, for example, Common and even young Kanye West. Because of the internet and the media, most music is easily consumed and easily put out. Also, I think that hip hop is also broadening its never ending colorful palette, in terms of sound and even lyrics. In terms of sound, we have producers now that are becoming artists, and they get to shine now with the artists they put on as their supporters. Lyrics are dumbed down unfortunately, but there are a lot of rappers out there who still have bars for days and many quotables.
1900s hip hop
2017 hip pop
dat.one. .mojo. So true
I like how they have a whole bunch of Rap albums in the back. But also Have Santana's debut album. BTW if you haven't heard that album I suggest you buy it. It was the first time Rock and Roll with Latin rhythms were mixed.
the best rappers = j cole, logic, g eazy, Joey bada$$, Earl Sweatshirt, Mike Stud, Joyner Lucas
Don't forget about chance the rapper
faxx
don't forget k dot
He said G easy... Somebody come get they mans
fuck g easy
Wow they're dropping gems throughout this
Hip-Hop is not dead it just evolved; and y'all have to learn to accept it.
well 'evolved' suggests it's changed/adapted to be better... I wouldn't agree with that
+Fractured Ghoul lmao definitely better than the 90s
*devolved
+James Gordon yeah
I'm not accepting shit.
K-rino and Immortal Tehnique are still going strong as hell; and nobody ever mentions them in these conversations..
I'm still listing to 90's stuff
lookin back on this they was hating hard, old heads are hilarious af
Loved this episode!
hip hop was diagnosed with cancer in 1996 and died in 2010🙁😔😖😭
Grime is the only genre that has kept it's authenticity, lyrically, culturally and creates an understanding of what it's like to live in the UK.
UK stand up 👍
the irony is that we used to look up to Americans in rap, but now we are running our own wave and starting to make moves. SHOUTOUT big narstie, bugzy malone, frisco and lady leshurr
keeping our version of hip hop alive
I use to think hip hip was dead, but Kendrick and J Cole changed my mind
The best episode of cooler yet.🙏🏽✊🏽
"Use to talk about the hustle. Now it's about the user." #FACTS
I used to think that hip hop was dead 'cause all these rappers on the radio cant rap and songs are nothing without a good beat. All these songs these days the beats are whats really doing all the work and they arent even the one making it, but there are alot of good underrated rappers out there like, Big KRIT, Hopsin, Immortal Technique, etc. You guys said some true shit
hopsin be hella corney sometimes always dissing somebody if he just said relatable stuff I would listen too him more
Top albums of the year: 1.Chance Colouring Book
2.Dj Khleded Major Key
3. Kendrick Untilted Umastered/ Kanye Life of Pablo
The realest debate on the status of hip hop today..
Big Daddy Kane defined freestyling as any free verse with no defined subject
The ending statements was the realist about it I've heard in a while.
One of the best Convo's they then had