Very sad...my family lived there when my father was stationed there in early troubles. We loved the beaches and often shopped in old town the port. Politics and religion ruin so many countries. My heart goes out to all.who lived therexx😍💕🇬🇧
My dad was posted there in 64 as ACC cook to BMH Dekielia we lived in Derenia Road Famagusta and had local friends Panayoda and Vernaves who we played with and they taught us a little Greek. So sad to see it now.
The was once the home of my partner. It breaks my heart thinking what he went through at such a young age being a child forced to leave the place that he loved and grew up in. I’m so proud of him. This video has made me so emotional. I just want to give him a huge hug right now
Its really smart turkish choose famagusta city to became there territory because famagusta is the most ritchest in cyprus very sad story a lot of greek cypriot died and lost there property Very very sad hope someday it will return to greek cypriot the famagusta the real owner of famagusta...
I saw The town from a boat when me and my family were there last week. It looked spooky and that you saw the cranes that have been there in more than 30 year were also litle spooky. We needed passport to get closer but we did not have our.
My Dad just been here on his hols. Its such a shame that such a beautiful place is gone to waste. Why they dont just come to some sort of agreement and bring it back to life again. Such a shame.
There are many pictures and videos of the desolation of Varosha available today. Given that no one is allowed to enter upon threat of being shot, I was wondering how these pictures have been obtained. I'm referring to the last 40 year period since the invasion. The whole thing is an awful tragedy.
Why was Varosha fenced off? I would love to see it restored again...not with all the high rises, but with the original buildings and architecture. It makes no sense to take these areas and allow a resort to go into decay and ruin.
In additiion to previous UN resolutions calling for a return of Famagusta to its lawful inhabitants, the European Parliament has in its February 2010 debate on Turkey repeated its own previous calls for the return of Ammohostos - making this an important factor in Turkey's possible EU accession process. Turkey has refrained from demonstrating its good faith towards the current reconciliation efforts on the island by responding to the EuroParliament suggestion - showing its continuing contempt.
Why on earth doesn't anyone do something about this? I am pretty sure Putin would be able to give this place back to it's people in only a few days. It is almost unbelievable how the turks got away with what they did back in'74
@SuliemanTheGreat Makarios and Greek Cypriots did not aim to massacre Turkish Cypriots. This is a lie and propaganda. Turkey even killed Turkish Cypriots who didnt support the Turkish invasion, Faizal was doing the bidding of Turkey in Cyprus against all Cypriots. The first attack on Turkish in Cyprus was by Turkey's government organization, as was admitted by Dankdash. They were taking up arms in 1963 or even earlier in Koki, and were conspiring to attack the Government of Cyprus representatives, Turkish and Greek. Turkey is the one who destroys the lives of not only Greeks but Turkish as well. More like people were fooled, including Greeks, Americans, UK Government and Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish Cypriots chose to go to Enclaves, by their choice to make way for bombings. Information was distorted and manipulated. You were taught propaganda .
very interesting.. it looks like this two films joined together. The first 40 seconds sounds like a piece for the BBC News perhaps and seems to be cut short... do you have any more of this because the pictures look very interesting...
That's up to you Sussexx, fly to Turkey or not, we're not dependent on your presence and if you may visit us someday you''ll be granted the same welcoming you'd get from our Greek brothers. As for the war, Greek fanatics in the south started killing Turkish citizens in Cyprus and since the Greeks weren't doing anything against the homicides we had to call our troops.
Yes trouble started before but who made sure that this didn't escalate? Either way both sides were going to still fight each other after the independence in which it did 3 years later. Cyprus should of never tried to be a part of Greece, it shouldn't be a part of any country but it's own. And now it has suffered because of it.
great vidio the Cyprus pepeul how left this beaþyful ieland. greatings from Holland. I visit it þhe 13 of june þhis for 1 week þhis year. greatings Hans
@masterhakki I agree with steliosc plus you can't create a new state from your own and even not accepted by the rest of the world. Especially when that state was created by a violent invasion called "peaceful". "Δεν ξεχνώ και αγωνίζομαι!!!" , αυτό μάθαμε στο σχολείο και πρέπει να το τηρήσουμε.
All politics aside I just hope they reopen the city and people can live together once again...They are Cypriots first, Greek or Turkish second, and I think that is too often forgotten...Cypriot First , and regain your city..
So so so sad, people should be aloud back, and let the people of Cyprus both Greek and Turkish Cypriots get on with there lives as they did before.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
TBH Cyprus should belong to cyprus - and both the greeks and the turks should decide if they are greeks or turks or cypriots. Lived there until 1970 and i didnt know there were greeks or turks - they were cypriots and very nice people. Look forward to the days when nationalism is no more important than the colour of your car!! Best Regards ALL
Trouble started before independence because the Brits used their notorious (and successful, apparently) divide & conquer method. The US did not stop Turkey from anything, their concern was to prevent a war between two NATO allies (Greece-Turkey) so they made sure that the Greeks wouldn't declare war on Turkey once the latter invaded. Turkey got more than it aimed for as Famagusta had not been in their original plans-they just found it empty.
During my last visit (about a week ago), I was talking to a Britist Ex-pat on the beach that the derelict hotels of Famagusta overlook. He didn't like the fact that I was 'allegedly' taking photographs of the hotels as this is prohibited. He said "It's OK for you. You're here for about half an hour, then you go. I live here. Two years ago they (the Turkish authorities) closed this beach because people where taking photographs." I'll reserve my sympathy for the following reasons...
It's easy to say now in retrospect what should or shouldn't have been done 60 years ago. Conditions and people's thinking was much different back then, so unless you've actually lived through such a thing you can't say it was wrong. Greek Cypriots wanted nothing different than what the rest of the Greek islands (e.g. Crete, in which Turk-Cretans outnumbered Greek-Cretans) wanted and achieved in the past.
According to Wikipedia, last Sep, the Economy Minister for Turkey said "Europe's two-faced and heartless policies and some anti-Turkish Austrian politicians have saddened us." Isn't it heartless to turn 45,000 people out of their homes? Seeing as Justice, Freedom and Security are the key points Turkey will not agree to, it's hypocrisy at its worst! The only good thing to come out of its EU membership would be the certain return of Famagusta.
LOOK WHAT THEY DID IN AN ISLAND , IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL BEFORE TURKS CAME AND INVADE IT AND NOW THEY CALL IT HOMELAND. I HAVE TO SHOW PASSPORT TO GO AND SEE MY OWN COUNTRY! VERY NICE
The Cyprus Constitution was given to Cyprus in 1960s.The Constitution was made by the Zyrich &London Agreements, which comprised of 3 treaties that established the political structure of Cyprus.Treaty of Guarantee being most important- Tky, GR & GB guaranteed independence, territorial integrity &Security.Up to 1861 NO income tax law passed -neighter bill secured a separate majority vote (Turk said no for many reasons)
I visited here with my family about 7 years ago and I can't believe what these family went through. washing still left outside as they escaped. armed guards surranded the beach which I found scary they were hiding but you could still see them. so sad on what went on there.
Things only kicked off when the Greeks wanted to united with Greece. And that was before Cyprus had independence, the only people that were keeping peace in that country were the British. Got your independence and trouble started. And for the USA they were the ones that stopped Turkey from taking over more of the land. Such a beautiful country should of never gotta into war.
Human beings are horrible// my planet has no humans// we have a peaceful planet// we were going to try and help the humans but our LEADER said it is without logic!!###
Once my family and I went to Cyprus when i was like 9 or something and we went on a bike tour through the whole damn Island ( at which point I hated my parents :D ) well anyway, we went to this cafe as some of the views were shot from, and I really wanted to go to that ghost town but I were not allowed by my parents. But I reached for my camera and aimed to Famagusta and was just about to take a picture but then a guard came and took my cam and forbid me to take pics :( NOW i know why...
jammer. ik het het dit jaar 2011 gezien. waar is de oplossing. vrezelijk voor deze bevolking die hier eens woonden. Zowel Grieken als Turken. Hans Meulenbelt - Holland
Nothing. It’s all about the diplomacy and geopolitics. In this case public can’t change anything. If the big patrons like USA, Europe wants a peace, it will happen.
@@gorgonzola7988 Unfortunately for the people of Cyprus either Greek or Turkish the location of Cyprus is the problem, it’s position at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea is the ideal location for the western/eastern powers of this world for communications. This is why it was so important to the British and why they have held bases there for such a long time, I do not ever see this problem resolved apparently the Turks hold all the ace cards and they will slowly go ahead Despite the protests of the United Nations Europe and the European Union and probably rebuild a complete new city
I've seen what's left of the city many times during my various visits to Cyprus. I can be seen by boat trip but the boats can only go as far as the 'Green Line'. Famagusta has to be seen by taking a jeep or minibus safari though. For this you need your Passport because you have to cross the checkpoint into 'The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus' to get to a beach where you can see the hotels up close. If you plan to visit Cyprus (Protaras area) this trip is well recommended.
as famagusta faded, limassol flourished. if you look at the limassol vote on annan you will see that they voted against - if the annan plan (which Turkish Cypriots voted in favour of) had been realised, varosha would have been given back and the majority of Turkish forces would have gone back by now. the lack of settlement for decades has created very different agendas at home and international eyes are on energy routes
I've seen this place from both the Greek and Turkish side, from the Turkish side you can see the bullets in the walls! We got shouted at for being too close to it though.
Turkey based its military invasion as 'peaceful action' relying on article IV of the Treaty of Guarantee which says that in the event of a breach of the provisions (the attempt 2 alter the consitution by imputing more laws by the way of bills in the Constitution was though 2 be as such as the Constitution does not allow it) any of the guaranteing powers is entitled to take action to restore the previous to restore what was before existent.. And the present situation is the outcome..
Well, that’s the course of life, sometimes the Greek occupy, sometimes the Turks, sometimes the all important and self-righteous Brits ‘Home’ is relative...
I guess it is not so heavily guarded as before and some fences are very poor or have been removed by people. I think if the people start slowly settling down there now the turkish millitary will not dare to intervene with brute force but just let it happen.
Read a Little history of the island and these annoying greeks trying to drab everything with outlandish behaviour to local, indigenous people and asking for it always and getting it in the end. Then crying, moaning and begging for others to step in to save them. They are one pitiful nation and always trying to tangle with Turkish might.Weird!
GCs & TCs lived in peace for centuries, until the Western Powers & NATO decided to muscle in. The resulting bloodshed & division of the island is a tragedy, & remains an unhealed wound. Now the Big Boys have discovered large gasfields offshore. Could this bring peace & prosperity to Cypriots, or an even longer scism as the Great B*******s fight over the wealth?
It makes me sad some of the comments I'm seeing here. I presume many of you are young greek cypriots with much nationalistic sentiment. Yes, it is a shame what has happened to Famagusta, and I deplore the Turkish government for allowing it to go to ruin. However, none of this (i.e. the war in Cyprus) would have happened if it wasn't for the actions of the then Greek Cypriot president, whose actions in trying to rid Cyprus of Turkish Cypriots led to the Turkish invasion. In fact, he even had the opportunity to avoid the war, being warned by the UN to stop his genocidal policy against Turkish Cypriots before the invasion. Also do not forget there is as much suffering on the Turkish side as there is on the Greek because of this. Cyprus for Cypriots, be the Turks or Greeks
You know, you need more research because no Muslims were victimised in Thailand, it was in Burma/Mynammar, I can't argue with an uneducated person like you, I will feel stupid..
When Cyprus did get its independence it became the object of Greece's desire to unify the island with Greece (enosis). The Turks of Cyprus understandably did not want this (consider the situation of Muslims in Greece before Greece went into the EU). As far as I'm aware, many Greek Cypriots also did not want it. The Turkish population of Cyprus was largely forced into enclaves. Turkey debatably had the right to invade; however they did not have the right to do ethnic cleansing, which is exactly what they did, and turned the issue into a land grab. Today the issue in Turkey is still largely conflated with patriotism, making anyone who wants to do something about it easy to brand as a "traitor" by any opponent, a very convenient strawman.
I'm not even going to get into a argument on the internet, i am a person who research's history on both sides i'm not a one sided person. and for you information it was the greeks who went round killing the Turkish Cypriots for all the land, get you facts right.the Turkish Cypriots didn't even have any weapons or a army, children mothers murdered just for land. research the history then talk. i'm not laughing at the people starving but at politicians who have lead there country into that state.
@ Firstly, it is not a "Greek island". it is Cyprus. According to Wikipedia, "Full Hellenisation" of Cyprus only took place between 80 to 58 BC (22 years), under "Ptolemaic rule" , which was a Macedonian Greek royal family that ruled the Ptolemaic Kingdom in "Egypt" during the Hellenistic period, before Rome possessed everywhere. Cyprus has influences and populations from many surrounding cultures (Egypt, Lebanon, Jewish, Syrians) as well as tens of other countries that the island belonged to throughout history, (including Assyrians, Persians, Egyptians, Genoese, Venetians, Mameluks, Lusignans (French), Italians, Rome, Britain and Ottomans). In 20th century, it was finally an independent and peaceful "Cyprus Republic". Part of the Cypriot population had Anatolian origins that came 500 YEARS AGO from across the sea, when Ottomans got the island. THEN, with the incitement of Greece and their nationalist ENOSIS ideology (a fantasy to turn everywhere into Greece, just Like Nazis), SOME fascist Cypriots believed they should kill all the Cypriots with Anatolian origins, and join the island to Greece. They even staged a coup against their own president Makarios, overthrew the government and declared Greece hegemony. When they started killing Anatolians, at some point Turkiye interfered, separated a part of the island in the north, and settled the remaining Anatolians there. If Turkiye wanted, they could easily kill all the Greece sympathizer fascists and take the whole island, but luckily, Turkiye's government was not a fascist rightwing prick at that time, it was a glorious leftist government so they just did the most humane thing to prevent a genocide on BOTH SIDES. So, since 1974, they live separately in the north. This is the story of Cyprus. It is not like "Turks came and invaded a Greek island". And i m not your friend. i dont befriend people that just talks about something without any clue about it.
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@@krbn80 You have just bored me to death! Fact is and it still remains . The Turks invaded a Greek Island in 1974 . Its a fact i know it hurts you .. But the fact is just that . Sorry you dont like to hear the truth but you best just get used to it.
@ You are bored to death by reading history, because you are illiterate. You cant just state what you think as historical facts, you know that right? What i wrote were all double checked from international sources. I dont just fart facts like you do. I also have too many close relatives that survived those days so we all KNOW what exactly happened. I m not gonna ignore my own father that was a captive until Turkiye arrived, and start believing an idiot yelling from... Britain? If you want to believe Cyprus is a Greek island and there were no "Turks" on it until 1974, just go ask any Cypriot you like. Even they will tell you its not true. It is a nation separate from Greece and there have been an Anatolian population for centuries and that was not a problem for anyone until Greece decided to claim the island and manipulate Greek nationalists there. And if you still believe what you say, you may also believe in goblins and elves. Peasant!
ok read some comments here, my friend there Eas TRimXs forgot to tell us what was TMT and what was doing back then, mate both sides had ethnisists but the plan was as David Colin said ran by UK and USA anybody read some history knows that, i also want to state something that many people either do not know or forget in the first invention where Turkey claimed that invented to protect the turkish cypriots took 4% of the island after that peace was made and things were suppose to go under
@@ostrichguy1811 It wasnt Turkey back then, it was called Ottoman Empire. They inherited the former Eastern Half of Roman Empire. Turkey only had Cyprus for 250-300 years and mainly stayed in the Walled Cities. Cyprus had direct connection to Sultan of Ottoman Empire and by-passed their Pashas and so on due to corruption. Actually, the ruling class of Ottoman Empire, most of them married into former ruling class of the Greeks, Byzantine (Nova Romas) ruling class. (now the many Greek Cypriot families.) Funny because many of the people that participated in attacking Cyprus from Turkey are actually appear to have former Greek lineage, clearly shown in their last names, and their relatives .. kind of retarded if you ask me.... And, to be honest, the Ottoman's were not able to control the people, they just taxed them using their churches and kept the occupation quiet by keeping the Greek Christians happy. in 1920's Your leader, Kemal Mustafa Ataturk is the ultra nationalists that created the idealism of the modern Turkish identity. (way too nationalistic, actually the Grey Wolf story centered around former Roman mysticism about Ramulous and Romulous, stolen history,,, strange if you ask me... ) Also, before this Turkish had no written language, your people used Arabic, but incorporated a latin based alphabet to make yourself appear to be modernized... , as Turks are a mixing pot of peoples and cultures just turned Islamic. (they committed many genocides against Christians and other mintorieis) So, basically, it never really did belonged to the Turks, it was just a military out-post from their mainland... The Turks sent to Cyprus were tax collectors and administrators to the sultan and Paschas... they stayed in walled city for their safety and traveled in armed carvery.
There are no TC refugees. Refugees are people that were forcefully removed from their homes. Turkish Cypriots are not refugees the same as Greek Cypriots. Turkey stole almost 1 trillion dollars worth from Greek Cypriots, at some point they have to pay up. (its far less from Turkish value of land on other side... and there are still 3,000 Turks living on our side and they are MUCH happier to live with us than in the concentration camp in TRNC.) EOKA was disbanded after 1960s, thereafter this time a mock group was established and in my own opinoin as Turkey was creating problems their organization TMT and Dankdash. But again EOKA and EOKA-B are two separate groups. Most reports from International organizations about TC activity on the island, pointed to that TCs were hostile and aggressive towards them most other country men, including the UN. (maybe political movement, or sense of Ottoman "power" entitlement) So again, this sounds like propaganda.
Good thinking. Thing is, Cyprus is STILL occupied by the Turks and we citizens of Famagusta are still awaiting to go back home. Who are you to tell us to let go of the places we grew up in? Would you 'drop it' if you were in our shoes?
ok long years both side lived many tragic things and ı believe its not the correct time to talk paste. so we have to look forward and try to make peace and 1 great cyprus
This is one of the most sadest places and beaches in cyprus also why are you not allowed to take pictures exactly is it because they don't want you to see the abandond hotels on the city or the most of the rest of the missing held captive on thoses buldings 🤔🤔🤔🤔
if the greek cypriots really want to sort this mess out, it might be an idea to show a united front! then maybe we can show that in the republic we celebrate art and culture while in the north they only celebrate military achievements. a bully will always mask inner weakness with violence, one day turks may be mature enough, and confident enough to face criticism through debate. i hope modern turkey will be confident enough to stand up to its past, apologise to armenians, greeks and kurds.
What you are saying is a contradiction. You have outlined the Kurds Armenians and Greeks but must have a selective memory because you forgot about enosis and eoka. Nothing wrong with this but when turkey actually realising the dream then you call them bullies. If enosis was achieved would you call the Greeks bullies.
The greeks have lived there for a long time and have been through a lot of the different countries that have conquered Cyprus . At this moment in time the northern part of the island is conquered by turkey but this may change. last time turkey conquered Cyprus they were here for four hundred years
control by the UN but Turkey broke the peace (during its time moving more and more army) and attack again (this was called second invention) so even if one accepts your claims that it was protecting someone in the first phase in the second had no excuse and that is the truth, not that it had any right to have any kind of army to the island in any case
Narator only mention about turkish invasion but never mention about coup de etat and assasination attempt to president makarios by greece official in 1974
It's been alleged that Henry Kissinger arranged the Turkish invasion of Cyprus when the Cypriot Government refused to allow the building of a NATO base on the Island. Cyprus has been fought over since the beginning of time because its location makes a useful 'launch pad' for military forces invading other areas, in particular, the Middle East. And where is NATO fighting it's wars these days... Conspiracy Theories about Binderberg etc proven true IMO. And the gave him the Nobel Peace Prize?!
Look between the difference of the Greek part and the Turkish part of Cyprus .. You see what kind of disaster they made of cyprus on the greek side with their economic problems !! Give whole Cyprus to the Turks and they will make it an paradise !!
Famagusta, Gazimağusa is a reminder of the genocide that took place, across the whole Island, The Turkish never will forget the massacre that took place which forced the intervention. The Greek-Cypriot dream for reuniting the whole island with Greece was always destined to fail. Cyprus is neither Greek Nor Turkish wholly, it must find its own identity to go forward peacefully in the future.
Honestly, Cyprus should have just reformed as a British Colony and as a modernized democratic and british island. .....with more independence and granting each persons individual liberty, rights and freedoms and reduction in taxes. I believe Cyprus wanted to maintain the connection to the UK by being a member of Common Wealth, but the first EOKA struggle was about individual freedoms and self-determination as people. (more humanitarian and individually focused) but they could have gain these differently. Look at the mess Cyprus is in now. We were fed to the dogs... and treated like animals... These people are very driven for education, workmanship, commerce, science , etc... They didnt even get a chance to contribute to humanity.
they had a reason to do it,the greeks claimed cyprus was theirs where as if you look at the map turkey are closer so they thought it was wrong and they took the north.
Naa, I'll not hold a current culture responsible for the injustices that belong to another generation. By your warped reasoning, we should never visit Japan after the bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941, or buy German cars because they bombed London in 1940. I think people should be free to make their own decisions based on perception and reasoning. Not the angry rants of someone like you. It's a ghost town now. Relic of the past. Forgotten, and left in ruins. Sad, I agree, but let it go. Drop it.
Very sad...my family lived there when my father was stationed there in early troubles. We loved the beaches and often shopped in old town the port. Politics and religion ruin so many countries. My heart goes out to all.who lived therexx😍💕🇬🇧
My dad was posted there in 64 as ACC cook to BMH Dekielia we lived in Derenia Road Famagusta and had local friends Panayoda and Vernaves who we played with and they taught us a little Greek. So sad to see it now.
The was once the home of my partner. It breaks my heart thinking what he went through at such a young age being a child forced to leave the place that he loved and grew up in. I’m so proud of him. This video has made me so emotional. I just want to give him a huge hug right now
En büyük Türkiye
I was on vacation in cyprus, and i actually met a guy who lived in that city. He said if i ever could go back there i still would.
Its really smart turkish choose famagusta city to became there territory because famagusta is the most ritchest in cyprus very sad story a lot of greek cypriot died and lost there property
Very very sad hope someday it will return to greek cypriot the famagusta the real owner of famagusta...
Türkler varken Rumlar Maraşa giremez 😂😂
FREEDOM FOR FAMAGUSTA AND THE RESTORATION OF PROPERTY TO IT'S GREEK OWNERS!!!
I really enjoy this video and i can see how sad is for Famagousta people loosing their houses.Famagousta is the best City in Cyprus .!!!
I saw The town from a boat when me and my family were there last week. It looked spooky and that you saw the cranes that have been there in more than 30 year were also litle spooky. We needed passport to get closer but we did not have our.
My Dad just been here on his hols. Its such a shame that such a beautiful place is gone to waste. Why they dont just come to some sort of agreement and bring it back to life again. Such a shame.
Sad to say ,bu this is why you can not let the Muslims get a foot hold in your city,state,and country .This is there way.
if people are let back into famagusta they should repair it and keep it the same and then it would be a 70s city that would be so cool
There are many pictures and videos of the desolation of Varosha available today. Given that no one is allowed to enter upon threat of being shot, I was wondering how these pictures have been obtained. I'm referring to the last 40 year period since the invasion. The whole thing is an awful tragedy.
a crime beyond description
The real crime is the all or nothing policy of the Greek Cypriot administration
I am from Turkey and i live in Famagusta
Why was Varosha fenced off? I would love to see it restored again...not with all the high rises, but with the original buildings and architecture. It makes no sense to take these areas and allow a resort to go into decay and ruin.
In additiion to previous UN resolutions calling for a return of Famagusta to its lawful inhabitants, the European Parliament has in its February 2010 debate on Turkey repeated its own previous calls for the return of Ammohostos - making this an important factor in Turkey's possible EU accession process. Turkey has refrained from demonstrating its good faith towards the current reconciliation efforts on the island by responding to the EuroParliament suggestion - showing its continuing contempt.
Why on earth doesn't anyone do something about this? I am pretty sure Putin would be able to give this place back to it's people in only a few days. It is almost unbelievable how the turks got away with what they did back in'74
Hooooooo
there lies the grim truth.
@SuliemanTheGreat Makarios and Greek Cypriots did not aim to massacre Turkish Cypriots. This is a lie and propaganda. Turkey even killed Turkish Cypriots who didnt support the Turkish invasion, Faizal was doing the bidding of Turkey in Cyprus against all Cypriots. The first attack on Turkish in Cyprus was by Turkey's government organization, as was admitted by Dankdash. They were taking up arms in 1963 or even earlier in Koki, and were conspiring to attack the Government of Cyprus representatives, Turkish and Greek.
Turkey is the one who destroys the lives of not only Greeks but Turkish as well.
More like people were fooled, including Greeks, Americans, UK Government and Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish Cypriots chose to go to Enclaves, by their choice to make way for bombings. Information was distorted and manipulated.
You were taught propaganda .
@@JamesT65 Propaganda ! I dont believe it. its full of lies and manipulation, like what your Government has been doing since inception.
@PIONEER EVERYONE hates the Turks. And I mean everyone.
very interesting.. it looks like this two films joined together. The first 40 seconds sounds like a piece for the BBC News perhaps and seems to be cut short... do you have any more of this because the pictures look very interesting...
That's up to you Sussexx, fly to Turkey or not, we're not dependent on your presence and if you may visit us someday you''ll be granted the same welcoming you'd get from our Greek brothers.
As for the war, Greek fanatics in the south started killing Turkish citizens in Cyprus and since the Greeks weren't doing anything against the homicides we had to call our troops.
Just been - very sad!
Yes trouble started before but who made sure that this didn't escalate? Either way both sides were going to still fight each other after the independence in which it did 3 years later. Cyprus should of never tried to be a part of Greece, it shouldn't be a part of any country but it's own. And now it has suffered because of it.
great vidio the Cyprus pepeul how left this beaþyful ieland.
greatings from Holland.
I visit it þhe 13 of june þhis for 1 week þhis year.
greatings Hans
Umm,yep
Fascinating.
I would love to go there and adventure there
@masterhakki I agree with steliosc plus you can't create a new state from your own and even not accepted by the rest of the world. Especially when that state was created by a violent invasion called "peaceful".
"Δεν ξεχνώ και αγωνίζομαι!!!" , αυτό μάθαμε στο σχολείο και πρέπει να το τηρήσουμε.
All politics aside I just hope they reopen the city and people can live together once again...They are Cypriots first, Greek or Turkish second, and I think that is too often forgotten...Cypriot First , and regain your city..
So so so sad, people should be aloud back, and let the people of Cyprus both Greek and Turkish Cypriots get on with there lives as they did before.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
That area is owned my mustafa pasa 1878 Turkish foundation. Having dreams of what's not yours ends up like this.
TBH Cyprus should belong to cyprus - and both the greeks and the turks should decide if they are greeks or turks or cypriots. Lived there until 1970 and i didnt know there were greeks or turks - they were cypriots and very nice people. Look forward to the days when nationalism is no more important than the colour of your car!!
Best Regards ALL
Famagusta can be the most lovable tourist town of Cyprus again. It is very pitty to keep a so beautifull place abandonned.
Trouble started before independence because the Brits used their notorious (and successful, apparently) divide & conquer method. The US did not stop Turkey from anything, their concern was to prevent a war between two NATO allies (Greece-Turkey) so they made sure that the Greeks wouldn't declare war on Turkey once the latter invaded. Turkey got more than it aimed for as Famagusta had not been in their original plans-they just found it empty.
During my last visit (about a week ago), I was talking to a Britist Ex-pat on the beach that the derelict hotels of Famagusta overlook. He didn't like the fact that I was 'allegedly' taking photographs of the hotels as this is prohibited. He said "It's OK for you. You're here for about half an hour, then you go. I live here. Two years ago they (the Turkish authorities) closed this beach because people where taking photographs." I'll reserve my sympathy for the following reasons...
such a shame
The real shame is 46 years of the Greek Cypriot administrations all or nothing policy that has led to this
It's easy to say now in retrospect what should or shouldn't have been done 60 years ago. Conditions and people's thinking was much different back then, so unless you've actually lived through such a thing you can't say it was wrong. Greek Cypriots wanted nothing different than what the rest of the Greek islands (e.g. Crete, in which Turk-Cretans outnumbered Greek-Cretans) wanted and achieved in the past.
According to Wikipedia, last Sep, the Economy Minister for Turkey said "Europe's two-faced and heartless policies and some anti-Turkish Austrian politicians have saddened us."
Isn't it heartless to turn 45,000 people out of their homes? Seeing as Justice, Freedom and Security are the key points Turkey will not agree to, it's hypocrisy at its worst!
The only good thing to come out of its EU membership would be the certain return of Famagusta.
well said
After all these years. What was the point to claim it and leave it to rot? So sad that nothing can be done to change this
LOOK WHAT THEY DID IN AN ISLAND , IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL BEFORE TURKS CAME AND INVADE IT AND NOW THEY CALL IT HOMELAND. I HAVE TO SHOW PASSPORT TO GO AND SEE MY OWN COUNTRY! VERY NICE
turkish cypriot and Greek cypriot were living happily until Greece decided to invade.. then turkey had to step in. so don't just blame it on turkey.
The Cyprus Constitution was given to Cyprus in 1960s.The Constitution was made by the Zyrich &London Agreements, which comprised of 3 treaties that established the political structure of Cyprus.Treaty of Guarantee being most important- Tky, GR & GB guaranteed independence, territorial integrity &Security.Up to 1861 NO income tax law passed -neighter bill secured a separate majority vote (Turk said no for many reasons)
I visited here with my family about 7 years ago and I can't believe what these family went through. washing still left outside as they escaped. armed guards surranded the beach which I found scary they were hiding but you could still see them. so sad on what went on there.
Things only kicked off when the Greeks wanted to united with Greece. And that was before Cyprus had independence, the only people that were keeping peace in that country were the British. Got your independence and trouble started. And for the USA they were the ones that stopped Turkey from taking over more of the land. Such a beautiful country should of never gotta into war.
9 years later..... THE DARK TOURIST CAN'T EVEN GET IN!
Dark tourists? what that?
Human beings are horrible// my planet has no humans// we have a peaceful planet// we were going to try and help the humans but our LEADER said it is without logic!!###
Once my family and I went to Cyprus when i was like 9 or something and we went on a bike tour through the whole damn Island ( at which point I hated my parents :D ) well anyway, we went to this cafe as some of the views were shot from, and I really wanted to go to that ghost town but I were not allowed by my parents. But I reached for my camera and aimed to Famagusta and was just about to take a picture but then a guard came and took my cam and forbid me to take pics :( NOW i know why...
jammer.
ik het het dit jaar 2011 gezien.
waar is de oplossing.
vrezelijk voor deze bevolking die hier eens woonden.
Zowel Grieken als Turken.
Hans Meulenbelt - Holland
This is like Chernobyl of Cyprus and i live as an Romanian in Nicosia
And 12 years after this doc, what has been achieved?
there was some talking about turning it into an eco-center
Nothing. It’s all about the diplomacy and geopolitics. In this case public can’t change anything. If the big patrons like USA, Europe wants a peace, it will happen.
@@gorgonzola7988 Unfortunately for the people of Cyprus either Greek or Turkish the location of Cyprus is the problem, it’s position at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea is the ideal location for the western/eastern powers of this world for communications. This is why it was so important to the British and why they have held bases there for such a long time, I do not ever see this problem resolved apparently the Turks hold all the ace cards and they will slowly go ahead Despite the protests of the United Nations Europe and the European Union and probably rebuild a complete new city
Its kinda cool to see how the houses/buildings were in the 70s :))
It’s like a time capsule
Είμαι από την Τουρκία
I've seen what's left of the city many times during my various visits to Cyprus. I can be seen by boat trip but the boats can only go as far as the 'Green Line'. Famagusta has to be seen by taking a jeep or minibus safari though. For this you need your Passport because you have to cross the checkpoint into 'The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus' to get to a beach where you can see the hotels up close. If you plan to visit Cyprus (Protaras area) this trip is well recommended.
as famagusta faded, limassol flourished. if you look at the limassol vote on annan you will see that they voted against - if the annan plan (which Turkish Cypriots voted in favour of) had been realised, varosha would have been given back and the majority of Turkish forces would have gone back by now. the lack of settlement for decades has created very different agendas at home and international eyes are on energy routes
I've seen this place from both the Greek and Turkish side, from the Turkish side you can see the bullets in the walls! We got shouted at for being too close to it though.
Let's go thicks it up
Cypress? It's not a fucking tree mate
Turkey based its military invasion as 'peaceful action' relying on article IV of the Treaty of Guarantee which says that in the event of a breach of the provisions (the attempt 2 alter the consitution by imputing more laws by the way of bills in the Constitution was though 2 be as such as the Constitution does not allow it) any of the guaranteing powers is entitled to take action to restore the previous to restore what was before existent.. And the present situation is the outcome..
Well, that’s the course of life, sometimes the Greek occupy, sometimes the Turks, sometimes the all important and self-righteous Brits ‘Home’ is relative...
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I was there this year in the spring.
I guess it is not so heavily guarded as before and some fences are very poor or have been removed by people. I think if the people start slowly settling down there now the turkish millitary will not dare to intervene with brute force but just let it happen.
How did they get away with this? I went to Cyprus it is a beautiful place.
Read a
Little history of the island and these annoying greeks trying to drab everything with outlandish behaviour to local, indigenous people and asking for it always and getting it in the end. Then crying, moaning and begging for others to step in to save them. They are one pitiful nation and always trying to tangle with Turkish might.Weird!
GCs & TCs lived in peace for centuries, until the Western Powers & NATO decided to muscle in. The resulting bloodshed & division of the island is a tragedy, & remains an unhealed wound. Now the Big Boys have discovered large gasfields offshore. Could this bring peace & prosperity to Cypriots, or an even longer scism as the Great B*******s fight over the wealth?
Watch 1974 Cyprus conflict between Cyprus and a Turkey Ambiguous Differences. Its very interesting how both peoples are so similar in their needs.
What sort of person would rather a city rot than allow it's people to live there? So greedy.
as a reminder of the horrors that went on and never to forget.
It makes me sad some of the comments I'm seeing here. I presume many of you are young greek cypriots with much nationalistic sentiment. Yes, it is a shame what has happened to Famagusta, and I deplore the Turkish government for allowing it to go to ruin. However, none of this (i.e. the war in Cyprus) would have happened if it wasn't for the actions of the then Greek Cypriot president, whose actions in trying to rid Cyprus of Turkish Cypriots led to the Turkish invasion. In fact, he even had the opportunity to avoid the war, being warned by the UN to stop his genocidal policy against Turkish Cypriots before the invasion. Also do not forget there is as much suffering on the Turkish side as there is on the Greek because of this. Cyprus for Cypriots, be the Turks or Greeks
That is definitely correct, you cant put the whole blame on the Turks and say they ruined Cyprus, the Greeks did their part as well.
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Can you share some thoughts from that book?
You know, you need more research because no Muslims were victimised in Thailand, it was in Burma/Mynammar, I can't argue with an uneducated person like you, I will feel stupid..
Muslims were not victimised in Thailand*
When Cyprus did get its independence it became the object of Greece's desire to unify the island with Greece (enosis). The Turks of Cyprus understandably did not want this (consider the situation of Muslims in Greece before Greece went into the EU). As far as I'm aware, many Greek Cypriots also did not want it. The Turkish population of Cyprus was largely forced into enclaves. Turkey debatably had the right to invade; however they did not have the right to do ethnic cleansing, which is exactly what they did, and turned the issue into a land grab. Today the issue in Turkey is still largely conflated with patriotism, making anyone who wants to do something about it easy to brand as a "traitor" by any opponent, a very convenient strawman.
I'm not even going to get into a argument on the internet, i am a person who research's history on both sides i'm not a one sided person. and for you information it was the greeks who went round killing the Turkish Cypriots for all the land, get you facts right.the Turkish Cypriots didn't even have any weapons or a army, children mothers murdered just for land. research the history then talk. i'm not laughing at the people starving but at politicians who have lead there country into that state.
@@mariamariano5442 Which land belonged to Greek Cypriots exactly?
@@krbn80 The whole island my friend , The Turks invaded a Greek island is that clear enough ?
@ Firstly, it is not a "Greek island". it is Cyprus. According to Wikipedia, "Full Hellenisation" of Cyprus only took place between 80 to 58 BC (22 years), under "Ptolemaic rule" , which was a Macedonian Greek royal family that ruled the Ptolemaic Kingdom in "Egypt" during the Hellenistic period, before Rome possessed everywhere. Cyprus has influences and populations from many surrounding cultures (Egypt, Lebanon, Jewish, Syrians) as well as tens of other countries that the island belonged to throughout history, (including Assyrians, Persians, Egyptians, Genoese, Venetians, Mameluks, Lusignans (French), Italians, Rome, Britain and Ottomans). In 20th century, it was finally an independent and peaceful "Cyprus Republic". Part of the Cypriot population had Anatolian origins that came 500 YEARS AGO from across the sea, when Ottomans got the island. THEN, with the incitement of Greece and their nationalist ENOSIS ideology (a fantasy to turn everywhere into Greece, just Like Nazis), SOME fascist Cypriots believed they should kill all the Cypriots with Anatolian origins, and join the island to Greece. They even staged a coup against their own president Makarios, overthrew the government and declared Greece hegemony. When they started killing Anatolians, at some point Turkiye interfered, separated a part of the island in the north, and settled the remaining Anatolians there. If Turkiye wanted, they could easily kill all the Greece sympathizer fascists and take the whole island, but luckily, Turkiye's government was not a fascist rightwing prick at that time, it was a glorious leftist government so they just did the most humane thing to prevent a genocide on BOTH SIDES. So, since 1974, they live separately in the north. This is the story of Cyprus. It is not like "Turks came and invaded a Greek island". And i m not your friend. i dont befriend people that just talks about something without any clue about it.
@@krbn80 You have just bored me to death! Fact is and it still remains . The Turks invaded a Greek Island in 1974 . Its a fact i know it hurts you .. But the fact is just that . Sorry you dont like to hear the truth but you best just get used to it.
@ You are bored to death by reading history, because you are illiterate. You cant just state what you think as historical facts, you know that right? What i wrote were all double checked from international sources. I dont just fart facts like you do. I also have too many close relatives that survived those days so we all KNOW what exactly happened. I m not gonna ignore my own father that was a captive until Turkiye arrived, and start believing an idiot yelling from... Britain? If you want to believe Cyprus is a Greek island and there were no "Turks" on it until 1974, just go ask any Cypriot you like. Even they will tell you its not true. It is a nation separate from Greece and there have been an Anatolian population for centuries and that was not a problem for anyone until Greece decided to claim the island and manipulate Greek nationalists there. And if you still believe what you say, you may also believe in goblins and elves. Peasant!
ok read some comments here, my friend there Eas TRimXs forgot to tell us what was TMT and what was doing back then, mate both sides had ethnisists but the plan was as David Colin said ran by UK and USA anybody read some history knows that, i also want to state something that many people either do not know or forget in the first invention where Turkey claimed that invented to protect the turkish cypriots took 4% of the island after that peace was made and things were suppose to go under
Cyprus belongs to the Greeks. It's shameful how the Turks let this once beautiful city of Famagusta go to ruins.
Sandra Gonyea get your facts straight look into what leader ruined this country u narrow minded freak!!
Ummm you do know that Turkey held Greece and Cyprus captive for 400 years right? you get your fucking facts straight smh
and the British just sat back and let it all happen, the fact you had the freedom to build a violent agenda ought to tell you something.
@@ostrichguy1811 It wasnt Turkey back then, it was called Ottoman Empire. They inherited the former Eastern Half of Roman Empire.
Turkey only had Cyprus for 250-300 years and mainly stayed in the Walled Cities. Cyprus had direct connection to Sultan of Ottoman Empire and by-passed their Pashas and so on due to corruption. Actually, the ruling class of Ottoman Empire, most of them married into former ruling class of the Greeks, Byzantine (Nova Romas) ruling class. (now the many Greek Cypriot families.) Funny because many of the people that participated in attacking Cyprus from Turkey are actually appear to have former Greek lineage, clearly shown in their last names, and their relatives .. kind of retarded if you ask me.... And, to be honest, the Ottoman's were not able to control the people, they just taxed them using their churches and kept the occupation quiet by keeping the Greek Christians happy.
in 1920's Your leader, Kemal Mustafa Ataturk is the ultra nationalists that created the idealism of the modern Turkish identity. (way too nationalistic, actually the Grey Wolf story centered around former Roman mysticism about Ramulous and Romulous, stolen history,,, strange if you ask me... ) Also, before this Turkish had no written language, your people used Arabic, but incorporated a latin based alphabet to make yourself appear to be modernized... , as Turks are a mixing pot of peoples and cultures just turned Islamic. (they committed many genocides against Christians and other mintorieis)
So, basically, it never really did belonged to the Turks, it was just a military out-post from their mainland... The Turks sent to Cyprus were tax collectors and administrators to the sultan and Paschas... they stayed in walled city for their safety and traveled in armed carvery.
Now varosha is open everyone visit and go inside
Both parties have their own side of the story .
Im in cyprus i see famagusta ghowst town
As a Uk citizen we didn't help and the Greeks were to hard on the TCs funny no mention of EOKA or the 50k TC who are refugees and displaced
There are no TC refugees. Refugees are people that were forcefully removed from their homes. Turkish Cypriots are not refugees the same as Greek Cypriots. Turkey stole almost 1 trillion dollars worth from Greek Cypriots, at some point they have to pay up. (its far less from Turkish value of land on other side... and there are still 3,000 Turks living on our side and they are MUCH happier to live with us than in the concentration camp in TRNC.)
EOKA was disbanded after 1960s, thereafter this time a mock group was established and in my own opinoin as Turkey was creating problems their organization TMT and Dankdash. But again EOKA and EOKA-B are two separate groups.
Most reports from International organizations about TC activity on the island, pointed to that TCs were hostile and aggressive towards them most other country men, including the UN. (maybe political movement, or sense of Ottoman "power" entitlement)
So again, this sounds like propaganda.
Good thinking. Thing is, Cyprus is STILL occupied by the Turks and we citizens of Famagusta are still awaiting to go back home. Who are you to tell us to let go of the places we grew up in? Would you 'drop it' if you were in our shoes?
ok long years both side lived many tragic things and ı believe its not the correct time to talk paste. so we have to look forward and try to make peace and 1 great cyprus
I was there yesterday
If they had guns, and used them, this wouldn't have happened. Don't let this happen
This is one of the most sadest places and beaches in cyprus also why are you not allowed to take pictures exactly is it because they don't want you to see the abandond hotels on the city or the most of the rest of the missing held captive on thoses buldings 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Held captives? What are you talking about ?
Right on !!!!
if the greek cypriots really want to sort this mess out, it might be an idea to show a united front! then maybe we can show that in the republic we celebrate art and culture while in the north they only celebrate military achievements. a bully will always mask inner weakness with violence, one day turks may be mature enough, and confident enough to face criticism through debate. i hope modern turkey will be confident enough to stand up to its past, apologise to armenians, greeks and kurds.
What you are saying is a contradiction. You have outlined the Kurds Armenians and Greeks but must have a selective memory because you forgot about enosis and eoka. Nothing wrong with this but when turkey actually realising the dream then you call them bullies. If enosis was achieved would you call the Greeks bullies.
you are a very funny boy!
not only Cypress, but and Constantinople and all west part of turkey like Ionia
The real WAR CRIME was in 1963!
What happened in 1963?
Just Reminds the Greeks of what they'll never have...The better side of the island.
Haven't the Greek occupied the Island since 3500 years ago?
No
The greeks have lived there for a long time and have been through a lot of the different countries that have conquered Cyprus . At this moment in time the northern part of the island is conquered by turkey but this may change. last time turkey conquered Cyprus they were here for four hundred years
@@terryyakky662 From my Canadian point of view, 400y is forever.
what is recently happening in 2016
Neville Coope no one lives there
Yes right absolutely illegal. recognised only from Turkey
control by the UN but Turkey broke the peace (during its time moving more and more army) and attack again (this was called second invention) so even if one accepts your claims that it was protecting someone in the first phase in the second had no excuse and that is the truth, not that it had any right to have any kind of army to the island in any case
Narator only mention about turkish invasion but never mention about coup de etat and assasination attempt to president makarios by greece official in 1974
It's been alleged that Henry Kissinger arranged the Turkish invasion of Cyprus when the Cypriot Government refused to allow the building of a NATO base on the Island. Cyprus has been fought over since the beginning of time because its location makes a useful 'launch pad' for military forces invading other areas, in particular, the Middle East. And where is NATO fighting it's wars these days... Conspiracy Theories about Binderberg etc proven true IMO. And the gave him the Nobel Peace Prize?!
Any documents??? Can you prove it??As far as I know CYPRUS IS CYPRUS !!!
So this ghost town is useless for both the greeks and turks
Look between the difference of the Greek part and the Turkish part of Cyprus .. You see what kind of disaster they made of cyprus on the greek side with their economic problems !! Give whole Cyprus to the Turks and they will make it an paradise !!
ahahah pls stop with the drugs
Give whole Cyprus to the Turks and yeah watch it turn into a shithole
Yeah they’ve done a great job with the North. It’s a shit hole full of criminals and people on the run.
Enosis!
ANORTHOSIS
? will you explain what do you mean by that comment?
Before 1974 greeks and Greek Cypriot together started to kill Turkish Cypriot and attacked Turkish village and the result of greek play
Famagusta, Gazimağusa is a reminder of the genocide that took place, across the whole Island, The Turkish never will forget the massacre that took place which forced the intervention. The Greek-Cypriot dream for reuniting the whole island with Greece was always destined to fail. Cyprus is neither Greek Nor Turkish wholly, it must find its own identity to go forward peacefully in the future.
The Turks should give it back. Pity the British empire isn’t what is was or it would’ve been taken back decades ago.
Honestly, Cyprus should have just reformed as a British Colony and as a modernized democratic and british island. .....with more independence and granting each persons individual liberty, rights and freedoms and reduction in taxes. I believe Cyprus wanted to maintain the connection to the UK by being a member of Common Wealth, but the first EOKA struggle was about individual freedoms and self-determination as people. (more humanitarian and individually focused) but they could have gain these differently.
Look at the mess Cyprus is in now. We were fed to the dogs... and treated like animals... These people are very driven for education, workmanship, commerce, science , etc... They didnt even get a chance to contribute to humanity.
How can the EU even consider letting Turkey join??????
they had a reason to do it,the greeks claimed cyprus was theirs where as if you look at the map turkey are closer so they thought it was wrong and they took the north.
that’s no good reason
Naa, I'll not hold a current culture responsible for the injustices that belong to another generation. By your warped reasoning, we should never visit Japan after the bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941, or buy German cars because they bombed London in 1940. I think people should be free to make their own decisions based on perception and reasoning. Not the angry rants of someone like you. It's a ghost town now. Relic of the past. Forgotten, and left in ruins. Sad, I agree, but let it go. Drop it.
Because you have no place to go elswhere!!!!
Get ready to get a lot of ghost towns, Turk.
my dream Antalya , ankara ecc... becomes a ghost cities ;)
@@massyfn9040 Sweet Dreams :)
No such thing as a Greek or Turkish Cyprus, They are all Cypriots!
Communist. Seriously, Communism is dead. and it really sucks, it started in fiction novels and died in fiction. because it didnt work.