Great job. With whole computers and laptops being seen as replaceable field units nowadays, its cool when someone goes back to basics and does the tech work themselves. Great effort. I was kinda nervous that it wasn't gonna work with all that effort you put in.
considering solder balls are put on by precise machines I wouldn't be surprised if this was not the first attempt and it took many redos to get it to work. Especially considering the way he drops the chip onto the mobo, nothing precise there.
Good job. Ignore the haters. They do not realise an infrared BGA reworkstation costs thousands and the little men can't afford that. Improvisation as shown here is excellent.
Actually you can get the ir elements extremely cheap from Ali around £30 for a full set. Add a thermocouple or get a pid and hey presto bga rework for less then £100
Holy BGA Batman! This is the most "ballsie", "hardcore" board level repair I've ever seen. More balls than a pachinko machine. I get stressed inserting a 48 pin DIP. I would have never believed it unless I saw it for myself. I'm not familiar with BGA's.. but I"m assuming (hoping) that there are little divots or half round impressions that the solder balls roll into. Otherwise I would have not clue how the balls were aligned. And then to visually place the chip onto the board, no guid.. Wow.. Good job. I wouldn't worry about cost vs time. IMHO just being able to do it brings its own rewards. This would certainly make any other rework seem like child's play. Have no fear comes to mind. I do wonder why it was replaced. The real magic may be in the fact you knew it was defective :O) Cheers! And keep it up!
+OvalWingNut these dell models are legendary for it. i have the same right here. found it trashed full of thermal paste. it was literally everywhere. no joke. cleaned it though I thought about doing the reballing with a heatgun. ive seen vids where it worked. though I totally understand why these methods arent liked. how much does that professional kit cost anyway?
+Solid Karma For a full Professional Reballing station you're looking at well over ~$1000. Then tack on ESD safe / professional grade Irons and such and you're probably looking at the ~$1500 range. Of course, a single reball is in the neighborhood of ~$80 so it could repay itself in a month of work.
You use something called a stencil. I just bought a cheap set of them from China to hopefully cover most (if not all) possible sizes). Not an expert myself, but I've seen you can also use solder paste to do the job (they should ball up when heating up), although I'm go for the balls if possible. As for the guide (aligning the GPU to the board properly), I'd be very worried about getting that right.
I have been in electronics a long long time but never attempted to reball. You are an expert to say the least, great video!!! I normally comment about people that don't talk during the videos but no words were needed in this one.
Great work making this look easy. What no one has ever shown is how to remove the epoxy that holds the chip on a HP motherboard. I spent an hour digging it off then realize it got soft when it was heated. No one ever tells you that if you knock off any component from the laptop while the solder is heated, will kill the motherboard for sure. This job is not for impatient people My total equipment cost was around $200US for the SMD Rework Station, balls, stencil, flux and copper wick. No vice tho
This man has the patience of Job. I just don't think I have it in me to do such meticulous work. It's fun watching someone else do it, though (I feel similarly about household chores). :)
Very impressive! I'm just learning about BGA chips and they seem like a pain to work with. Wouldn't have thought so if I watched this first! I guess this is the "next level" in ICs after SMT ICs with the external legs.
Cost, once you have a little base of equipment, exchanging single parts becomes easier from day to day. Theres Laptops with everything on one single board, replacing this is fairly cost intensive. Imagine a broken video card in the 1000USD price range with no warranty left, what would you do? Replace it or repair an IC thats obviously broken. This is just alot more cost effective.
LizzyDaWizzy I replace about 3 - 5 laptop motherboards a year. Considering the cost of around $100-200 on the low end laptops, and I have to go through the effort of removing them, I see no point in reballing.
He's only dragging it over the CPU/GPU pads. It's not like he's dragging it all over the motherboard where the traces and such are. This is a must for cleaning pads like that anyway.
I have all that stuff in my kitchen, don't you? E.g., the stencil is for cake decorating. Well, except the Q-tip. I don't keep that in the kitchen. That's in the bathroom. 😉
I was very impressed; being a former game repair center manager, the company I worked for would've never sprung for the equiptment that I needed to do a great job like you did. Thinking of investing in my own tools, I already have an infra-red toaster oven that I do minor repairs in, but going that extra mile seems to be the route that I have to take and why not do it properly.
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I have reflowed many of those. The first time I ever had that issue I found out about it. Reflowed it, then sold it. How much it would cost to have someone do this, vs selling the parts and buying a new system, doesn't make sense to me. But this video also helps show how to replace a by a chip, like say replacing that crappy AMD E-300 APU that's in my laptop. But for my time and money, another laptop is cheaper. Great video and and you have great patience.
Great technique. But what exactly is homemade???? The store bought jig??? The store bought reballs them self??? Home made Vacuum pen???? Homemade no clean flux??? The make shift heater for pre heating I guess, But that's store bought as well. A hack, but still store bought. Kapton tape must be homemade then?????
I really hope you don't do any homemade projects... as based on your logic you would want to grow trees in your living room, mine ores and smelt them into bars, do some smithing to craft ur tools so u can say the project is 100% homemade.
Mad props man. I always wanted to try doing this to a 360 or the HP DV series laptops. I replaced a few mobos in some HP's, but don't know if I would ever try this. Good Job.
This does work, a couple of things you got to keep in mind though. What you did was remelt the soldier points, but probably improperly. The soldier points will get crystallized if you partially melt them. This causes 2 things: 1. Early failure of the soldier (which means it will fail again sooner rather then later) 2. Will cause soldier to require HIGHER temps to melt. Eventually too hot for the components to survive. Take steps before it gets like that. DID my PS3 too. :)
But that's just it. the chip isn't always the problem, the problem is micro-fractures in the solder. Leadfree solder is more prone to get the fractures than lead based solder.
Of course it works!, no reason why it wont last years. Just exactly same as the xbox RROD fix. Just ensure you have suitable cooling!. Excellent video,very thorough.
Right, I was mainly pointing out that reflowing isn't always reliable; reballing will work for a considerable while longer if not indefinitely. Package replacement to a better revision (in the case of the notorious NVidia 8500M) can also be a solution. Some failures doe to the ball flexing that you mentioned are due to poor internal package layout and material choices on the manufacturer's part. Sometimes newer revisions of the package address the underlying issues that lead to failure.
It's worth the effort. What would you chose ? Spend 80 to 160 used for a kit or get same problems with a new laptop after 5 years? Most laptops get same problem with time as heat wears out the platine conductor on the board so it's a good investment as all laptops come with that tech so kit is useful for all laptops and less money wasting
Even tough the technician is very skillful and its repair successful is not in a home enviroment or home workshop. He uses tools that I guess are not even home tools. Like the plastic vise to work on the IC. Also the tape is special since it has that copper color. Neither he does explain what elements he uses on the IC like the "balls" that I clearly deduct that are soldering metal in tiny balls presentation. And finally one can see clearly that that is sophisticated repair place. It's not a home environment and doesn't even say why the laptop needs the repair.
The vise is not neccessary, it makes your life easier but not neccesary. The yellow tape is kapton (heat resistant tape) and for any electronics hobbyist its a must-have. The balls are solder metal that you can purchase in any shop that sells electronics hobby stuff. The hot air station can be purchased of ebay for as low as $60. Surely this isn't stuff for the average joe, rather an average electronics hobbyist.
Everything he is using is what electronic hobbyist have in their shop except the IC holder and I am sure you could get one of those on eBay, yep, here is one for $62 www.ebay.com/itm/like/121256139411?lpid=82. As for the reason the machine needed repair, does not matter because the demo was to show his MAD SKILLS at reballing not troubleshooting. Regards, Electronic Tech for 28 years
fretl3ss I agree man. For what I can see at the video he's a computer repair shop. Most likely a service place where one sends laptops to be repaired on warranty.
***** Awsome info, man!!! Yet what I critized is that he posted it as home video when it's made at computer repair shop. At least I know where to get the IC holder!!! Again thanks fro the info!!!
"low cost & home made"??... quien no tiene en casa un soldador de aire caliente y un porta plantillas para colocar las bolitas de estaño?, jajajaja... Lo único casero de todo el vídeo es lo de la estufa, el resto de casero y bajo costo no tiene NADA (que tampoco es que digamos que es caro, pero tampoco es lowcost)
Es que no sé si pidió un reballing kit de China la verdad no se en cuánto le salió digo si te vas a dedicar a eso vale la pena la inversión pero para un solo dispositivo a menos de que haya sido super costoso no vale la pena y luego qué tal si no era el chip y era un capacitor o qué se yo, con piezas tan diminutas.
Great skill to have, thank you for the video. Unfortunately we are living in a throw away society everything is broken we most throw away and buy a new one.
Thank you for the response Henry. I hope I never have to do this cause it looks like a lot of work. I suspect most people probably throw the board away and get a new one since they may not have the experience (like me) to do this.
That's some good clean work! Most hacks just put the board in a stove we call them shake and bakes there garbage. Your system is very nice the only thing is for all that work I think I'd have put a new chip in instead of just cleaning the old one. That way if you use a good thermal paste you know it's gonna last atleast two years before you have to crack the case again.
I've just set up my station and I tried this on an old motherboard. When I heat up the solder balls, with the stencil in place, the stencil warps by about 4mm and the solder balls can move out-of-place. How did you prevent the stencil from warping under heat from the air device?
Wow that is beyond amazing, anybody who has successfully ever reballed one motherboard will buy this guy happily several Beers/coffee/whatever :) If you ever come to Melbourne mate feel free to reply here and I will keep up on that promise. What is your success rate and how many have you re-balled?
Thanks alot - really appreciate it. I have been spending at least 3 hours looking through the internet for a good deal, and you gave it straight and simple - thanks again for that. I dont really want to buy a new PS3, as I could get the tools for (what seems like) a similar price, and it means I can keep them, and maybe help out the countless friends who also have the Yellow Light of Death (GPU problems) on their PlayStations. Thanks again.
Very nice man!!really good job!!Could you please tell me the model of the heat gun you use?Is it with an air blower or with diaphragm pump?? Thank you very much in regards for your answer!
Amazing ...very high-tech factory SMT soldering methods are mind-blowing. Repairing them is almost unthinkable. Nice to see when VLSI SMT is redone and saved. Usually, buying factory refurnished has me running away... this makes me think it could be OK. Question: Is is better to keep the stencil in place when heating, or to remove it. If there is enough flux paste to hold the balls, do techs remove it? Depends on how many pins? I got worried seeing the stencil removed and thinking it made a mess of the re-flow underneath. (sticking, distorting it etc) I guess solder sticking to the stencil is not a problem if it's stainless etc. Comments?
Could you have augmented your IC platform with an ultrasonic device to permit facilitation of ball seating via Brownian motion rather than manual final placement? Even a simple Piazzo device would do - just a thought.
Nice video my friend, thank you for sharing. Maybe goldpart where did you bye that station kit? Its wonderful how separates the stencil from de video chip.
just a basic trick from French polish technique (shellac ) : when turning on the edges (with the copper braid) turn direction = from inside to outside , so you do not catch "dust" or things stuck on the edges . Possibly a thing to keep in mind when cleaning the board . Thanks for the vid, I need to change a CPU socket 151, will it stand 200 ° or more ? Cheers !
Hahaha its ace how you've beat matched the tune in with the lifting off of the gpu at 4.09!! Quality! gud vid too, prob going to give this a go on my vaio, looks a bit of a ballache tho! (excuse the pun!) xx
Hello Emanuele Vedovati, I'd like to try to reballing here. Can you list the products (quimical) that you used in this video? And the equipaments? Thanks
Yes I found it. But I still have a question, it seems thath he used K type thermocouple, but the wiring resists only to 200 C, and the melting temperature is about 220. Thath's the reason why he used the thermo protective band?
Ciao, anche dopo tanti anni il tuo video è un ottimo spunto, una curiosità, che tipo di pasta usi prima di pulire con la traccia dissaldante? È sempre la stessa che usi prima di riposizionare lo stagno? Che tipo di solvente usi dopo per pulire? Qualcuno mette la pasta anche prima di dissaldare il chip tu che dici? Grazie
Hi, Saw your comment that he should "stop dragging whick over [his] boards". I am relatively new to this, not really sure what is the coorect/best way to do this, and hope you dont mind me asking what a better alternative would be? Would it be to go over the board first with a soldering iron, and then whick, or only once over with a whick? If you do not drag it, how would you do it? Thanks - would appreciate any help
ma garantisce un buon risultato anche usando solo una stazione ad aria calda? immagino ci vorrà molta pratica usando questo metodo. non è che la temperatura si distribuisce male?
That's an awful lot of work but I'm itching to have that new equipment on hand. The other day I worked on one that the cpu was the cause of the problem and not the graphics chip. hp dv6000. I used some can aluminum and covered the seat that holds the chip, squirted some no-clean flux under from each side and hit it with a pen torch for a few and it worked like a charm!
ciao carissimo ti ringrazio per questo video stò comprando il Bga reballing kit 459 pz calore direttamente stencil reballing stazione da un sito cinese per cimentarmi in questa impresa di rimpiazzio palline per schede video invidia-ati.....spero di cuore che tu possa rispondermi poiche sono un autodidatta....mi sono comprato tempo addietro una stazione saldante dissaldante ad aria calda....secondo te è meglio usare per le schede video dei portatili invidia palline di stagno odi pionmbo? fammi sapere ti supplico grazie ancora
Reball is the way to go guys and girls. and NO reflow doesnt do the same thing. See what your missing is when you reball the NEW type solder can handle MUCH geater temps. Allowing the system to be ok running at the hotter temp. (Just like they should have done from the Manufacturer) nice work for home made.
Great job. With whole computers and laptops being seen as replaceable field units nowadays, its cool when someone goes back to basics and does the tech work themselves. Great effort. I was kinda nervous that it wasn't gonna work with all that effort you put in.
Do you think that he will put the video on RUclips if that thing will not work?
Zviki Would be a lesson in what not to do. Plus he already went through the trouble of getting the footage might as well.
Thatoneblackguy258 Zviki Also, he seems to know what he's doing
***** That's what I mean.
considering solder balls are put on by precise machines I wouldn't be surprised if this was not the first attempt and it took many redos to get it to work. Especially considering the way he drops the chip onto the mobo, nothing precise there.
Bonus points for the Unreal soundtrack
Good job. Ignore the haters. They do not realise an infrared BGA reworkstation costs thousands and the little men can't afford that. Improvisation as shown here is excellent.
What is the big metal piece on top of the ship? I'm guessing is to melt the solder and remove the ship? But how is it transmitting heat to the ship?
Actually you can get the ir elements extremely cheap from Ali around £30 for a full set. Add a thermocouple or get a pid and hey presto bga rework for less then £100
@@2ndrunraidshadowlegends631 Yeah, but years ago they have been more expensive.
@@thingshappen9199 Its a hot air gun :)
Yes, the prices are lower, bur the work still is too hard to do.
Man just wanna pay my deepest respect to you for taking the intuitive to do this shit. Realy man respect from Holland.
Holy BGA Batman! This is the most "ballsie", "hardcore" board level repair I've ever seen. More balls than a pachinko machine. I get stressed inserting a 48 pin DIP. I would have never believed it unless I saw it for myself. I'm not familiar with BGA's.. but I"m assuming (hoping) that there are little divots or half round impressions that the solder balls roll into. Otherwise I would have not clue how the balls were aligned. And then to visually place the chip onto the board, no guid.. Wow.. Good job.
I wouldn't worry about cost vs time. IMHO just being able to do it brings its own rewards. This would certainly make any other rework seem like child's play. Have no fear comes to mind. I do wonder why it was replaced. The real magic may be in the fact you knew it was defective :O) Cheers! And keep it up!
+OvalWingNut these dell models are legendary for it. i have the same right here. found it trashed full of thermal paste. it was literally everywhere. no joke.
cleaned it though I thought about doing the reballing with a heatgun. ive seen vids where it worked. though I totally understand why these methods arent liked.
how much does that professional kit cost anyway?
+Solid Karma For a full Professional Reballing station you're looking at well over ~$1000. Then tack on ESD safe / professional grade Irons and such and you're probably looking at the ~$1500 range. Of course, a single reball is in the neighborhood of ~$80 so it could repay itself in a month of work.
You use something called a stencil. I just bought a cheap set of them from China to hopefully cover most (if not all) possible sizes). Not an expert myself, but I've seen you can also use solder paste to do the job (they should ball up when heating up), although I'm go for the balls if possible. As for the guide (aligning the GPU to the board properly), I'd be very worried about getting that right.
I have been in electronics a long long time but never attempted to reball. You are an expert to say the least, great video!!! I normally comment about people that don't talk during the videos but no words were needed in this one.
Super mad skills. I personally would have scraped the laptop.
Wow, Emanuele, I thought I was hard core doing basic SMD work at home... I bow to you... well done and I learned a lot...
unreal tournament music! great video!
+Pablo Diaz yees !! haha me di cuenta tambien
That's the best part of the video!
That is almost the entire Unreal Tournament 2000 soundtrack. Love that game!!! Fantastic job reballing.
OK, now lets declare BGA as crime against humanity... >.
Great work making this look easy.
What no one has ever shown is how to remove the epoxy that holds the chip on a HP motherboard. I spent an hour digging it off then realize it got soft when it was heated. No one ever tells you that if you knock off any component from the laptop while the solder is heated, will kill the motherboard for sure.
This job is not for impatient people
My total equipment cost was around $200US for the SMD Rework Station, balls, stencil, flux and copper wick. No vice tho
The music is from unreal tournament 99.
i was thought it from ace combat 3
They don't make memorable soundtracks like this any more. I recognized it right away!
This man has the patience of Job. I just don't think I have it in me to do such meticulous work. It's fun watching someone else do it, though (I feel similarly about household chores). :)
Why didn't you put thermal paste on the GPU before reassembling?
It did say preliminary testing, so nothing is to say it wasn't done later on or even off camera.
Very impressive! I'm just learning about BGA chips and they seem like a pain to work with. Wouldn't have thought so if I watched this first!
I guess this is the "next level" in ICs after SMT ICs with the external legs.
Considering this is so labor intensive, is there an advantage over just replacing the board?
Cost, once you have a little base of equipment, exchanging single parts becomes easier from day to day. Theres Laptops with everything on one single board, replacing this is fairly cost intensive.
Imagine a broken video card in the 1000USD price range with no warranty left, what would you do? Replace it or repair an IC thats obviously broken.
This is just alot more cost effective.
LizzyDaWizzy I replace about 3 - 5 laptop motherboards a year. Considering the cost of around $100-200 on the low end laptops, and I have to go through the effort of removing them, I see no point in reballing.
eastcoastcomputer
And what about mid to hi end ones? Around 500$ for a board, while reballing is 50-80. A bit over 100$ if you replace the chip
I would think that a $500 board would be better constructed.
eastcoastcomputer Anything can break obviously.
He's only dragging it over the CPU/GPU pads. It's not like he's dragging it all over the motherboard where the traces and such are. This is a must for cleaning pads like that anyway.
you call that homemade equipment .. maybe if you live in CHINA lmao
+2012TheAndromeda "Common home" is not "low cost" or "home made".
+audisam You can get most of that for china prices if you look at Alixpress :P
The only "home made" is the heater XDDDD
some of the commercial re-flowing equipment is like 15 grand or more dude.
I have all that stuff in my kitchen, don't you? E.g., the stencil is for cake decorating.
Well, except the Q-tip. I don't keep that in the kitchen. That's in the bathroom. 😉
I was very impressed; being a former game repair center manager, the company I worked for would've never sprung for the equiptment that I needed to do a great job like you did. Thinking of investing in my own tools, I already have an infra-red toaster oven that I do minor repairs in, but going that extra mile seems to be the route that I have to take and why not do it properly.
by noo means homemade - quite professional
Over 30 years and you still don't know why a reball is done! Wow you must be a real pro!
Unreal music is good theme
Cant believe i watched someone really reball his graphics IC...
Unbelievable!! Great work!
Balls are leaded or leaded free?
leaded ;)
+Emanuele Vedovati Here due to MS just loving lead free! Wrrryyyyyy!?
Must be leaded, reflowing at 200C.
DON'T KID YOURSELF. THERE IS NOTHING AMATEUR ABOUT THIS. GREAT VIDEO AND MUSIC!
Cile
Hahah da :D
Hahaha :D
Juhu!!!Nista bez Cika Cileta :D XD
Cile mu nabio preglede haha :D
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Wow, impressive. Some real precision work. Very cool music too, made the video even better.
Thumbs up if Nvidia was the first thing that came to your mind.
More like HP laptops...
Aspr aah the fucking geforce 8 series
@@marcobho747 I have litterally 3 motherboards with faulty 8400M GTs
I have reflowed many of those. The first time I ever had that issue I found out about it. Reflowed it, then sold it. How much it would cost to have someone do this, vs selling the parts and buying a new system, doesn't make sense to me. But this video also helps show how to replace a by a chip, like say replacing that crappy AMD E-300 APU that's in my laptop. But for my time and money, another laptop is cheaper. Great video and and you have great patience.
Great technique. But what exactly is homemade???? The store bought jig??? The store bought reballs them self??? Home made Vacuum pen???? Homemade no clean flux??? The make shift heater for pre heating I guess, But that's store bought as well. A hack, but still store bought. Kapton tape must be homemade then?????
Don't be a wise ass. I think he meant DIY instead of home-made. Some people lack common sense.
I really hope you don't do any homemade projects... as based on your logic you would want to grow trees in your living room, mine ores and smelt them into bars, do some smithing to craft ur tools so u can say the project is 100% homemade.
Your ugliness is homemade 100%
i have no idea what you're doing but i can't stop watching
And then you discover you placed the IC backwards :-)
Mad props man. I always wanted to try doing this to a 360 or the HP DV series laptops. I replaced a few mobos in some HP's, but don't know if I would ever try this. Good Job.
thats skill
This does work, a couple of things you got to keep in mind though. What you did was remelt the soldier points, but probably improperly. The soldier points will get crystallized if you partially melt them. This causes 2 things: 1. Early failure of the soldier (which means it will fail again sooner rather then later) 2. Will cause soldier to require HIGHER temps to melt. Eventually too hot for the components to survive. Take steps before it gets like that. DID my PS3 too. :)
reballing a dead chip is like installing windows without a windows key every month
But that's just it. the chip isn't always the problem, the problem is micro-fractures in the solder.
Leadfree solder is more prone to get the fractures than lead based solder.
Yeah, we should fuck his shit up and make things like spare tires and fix-o-flat illegal.
Of course it works!, no reason why it wont last years. Just exactly same as the xbox RROD fix. Just ensure you have suitable cooling!. Excellent video,very thorough.
this vidio is boring but my
dad likes it
thanks for helping me confirm that there is a lot more to this that a hair dryer, tapping on the top of the gpu, and a little patience
SINOVI, KAD OVO BUDETE ZNALI ONDA KAZITE DA ZNATE O KOMPIJUTERIMA
A neko ne zna da ocisti lap top od prasine xD
Ja znam.
Na eBay-u ima tih kitova
Right, I was mainly pointing out that reflowing isn't always reliable; reballing will work for a considerable while longer if not indefinitely. Package replacement to a better revision (in the case of the notorious NVidia 8500M) can also be a solution. Some failures doe to the ball flexing that you mentioned are due to poor internal package layout and material choices on the manufacturer's part. Sometimes newer revisions of the package address the underlying issues that lead to failure.
All this hassle, id buy a new laptop!
It's worth the effort. What would you chose ? Spend 80 to 160 used for a kit or get same problems with a new laptop after 5 years? Most laptops get same problem with time as heat wears out the platine conductor on the board so it's a good investment as all laptops come with that tech so kit is useful for all laptops and less money wasting
@@healthpointmauritius2619 never had a laptop wich needed reballing
Really phenomenal job. Cannot deny the skills.
Ajmo like ko je ovde zbog cileta :D
OMG...Amazing! Fascinating! I envy you dude, you have some crazy skills. Super cool stuff.
Even tough the technician is very skillful and its repair successful is not in a home enviroment or home workshop.
He uses tools that I guess are not even home tools. Like the plastic vise to work on the IC. Also the tape is special since it has that copper color. Neither he does explain what elements he uses on the IC like the "balls" that I clearly deduct that are soldering metal in tiny balls presentation. And finally one can see clearly that that is sophisticated repair place. It's not a home environment and doesn't even say why the laptop needs the repair.
The vise is not neccessary, it makes your life easier but not neccesary. The yellow tape is kapton (heat resistant tape) and for any electronics hobbyist its a must-have. The balls are solder metal that you can purchase in any shop that sells electronics hobby stuff. The hot air station can be purchased of ebay for as low as $60. Surely this isn't stuff for the average joe, rather an average electronics hobbyist.
Everything he is using is what electronic hobbyist have in their shop except the IC holder and I am sure you could get one of those on eBay, yep, here is one for $62 www.ebay.com/itm/like/121256139411?lpid=82. As for the reason the machine needed repair, does not matter because the demo was to show his MAD SKILLS at reballing not troubleshooting.
Regards,
Electronic Tech for 28 years
fretl3ss
I agree man. For what I can see at the video he's a computer repair shop. Most likely a service place where one sends laptops to be repaired on warranty.
*****
Awsome info, man!!!
Yet what I critized is that he posted it as home video when it's made at computer repair shop. At least I know where to get the IC holder!!!
Again thanks fro the info!!!
fretl3ss And before I forget, thanks for the info. I might get that tape!!
:)
The most amazing and professional video i had ever seen
Unreal Tournament music lol
I can't believe that great job, only for patient people. I'd like to have this skill.
"low cost & home made"??... quien no tiene en casa un soldador de aire caliente y un porta plantillas para colocar las bolitas de estaño?, jajajaja... Lo único casero de todo el vídeo es lo de la estufa, el resto de casero y bajo costo no tiene NADA (que tampoco es que digamos que es caro, pero tampoco es lowcost)
Es que no sé si pidió un reballing kit de China la verdad no se en cuánto le salió digo si te vas a dedicar a eso vale la pena la inversión pero para un solo dispositivo a menos de que haya sido super costoso no vale la pena y luego qué tal si no era el chip y era un capacitor o qué se yo, con piezas tan diminutas.
Great skill to have, thank you for the video. Unfortunately we are living in a throw away society everything is broken we most throw away and buy a new one.
reballing to fix the gpu, is pure, fucking, bullshit
YEah, it worked that week, but just that week.
yeah but reballing to fix fucked up solder balls isn't.
Thank you for the response Henry. I hope I never have to do this cause it looks like a lot of work. I suspect most people probably throw the board away and get a new one since they may not have the experience (like me) to do this.
That's some good clean work! Most hacks just put the board in a stove we call them shake and bakes there garbage. Your system is very nice the only thing is for all that work I think I'd have put a new chip in instead of just cleaning the old one. That way if you use a good thermal paste you know it's gonna last atleast two years before you have to crack the case again.
I've just set up my station and I tried this on an old motherboard. When I heat up the solder balls, with the stencil in place, the stencil warps by about 4mm and the solder balls can move out-of-place. How did you prevent the stencil from warping under heat from the air device?
Nice work! I would like to ask you how many celsius reaches the balls at 15:50 before take out the stencil. Thanks!
Unbeliveable !!!!! I 'm sure your are a doctor.Amazing!!!!
Wow that is beyond amazing, anybody who has successfully ever reballed one motherboard will buy this guy happily several Beers/coffee/whatever :) If you ever come to Melbourne mate feel free to reply here and I will keep up on that promise. What is your success rate and how many have you re-balled?
Hermoso video, he visto varios de reballing pero este, es como dicen en mi pueblo lo hiciste de manera artesanal.
very nice and useful post..plz keep it continue
Woooow you have big balls to do that !
Tiny balls. Hundreds, sometimes more than a thousand tiny balls per chip.
Thanks alot - really appreciate it.
I have been spending at least 3 hours looking through the internet for a good deal, and you gave it straight and simple - thanks again for that.
I dont really want to buy a new PS3, as I could get the tools for (what seems like) a similar price, and it means I can keep them, and maybe help out the countless friends who also have the Yellow Light of Death (GPU problems) on their PlayStations.
Thanks again.
Did you end up doing it?
You are simply awesome. Great work. I wish, I must be smart enough like you and upload videos like you to my channel!
Very nice man!!really good job!!Could you please tell me the model of the heat gun you use?Is it with an air blower or with diaphragm pump?? Thank you very much in regards for your answer!
Your patience makes me impatient!
Great technique. Please let me know the pre heating tem. and do you do that both removing the chip and reinstalling it or until the hole process ends?
That's sick, how you put these balls down to line up and flow them.
Amazing ...very high-tech factory SMT soldering methods are mind-blowing.
Repairing them is almost unthinkable. Nice to see when VLSI SMT is redone and saved. Usually, buying factory refurnished has me running away... this makes me think it could be OK.
Question:
Is is better to keep the stencil in place when heating, or to remove it. If there is enough flux paste to hold the balls, do techs remove it? Depends on how many pins?
I got worried seeing the stencil removed and thinking it made a mess of the re-flow underneath. (sticking, distorting it etc)
I guess solder sticking to the stencil is not a problem if it's stainless etc.
Comments?
Wow this is crazy. I loved it, you must have steady hands and huge knowledge to do this. Its like brain surgery :)
Does it require to play Unreal Tournament theme repeatedly for success?
yes
Could you have augmented your IC platform with an ultrasonic device to permit facilitation of ball seating via Brownian motion rather than manual final placement? Even a simple Piazzo device would do - just a thought.
Nice video my friend, thank you for sharing. Maybe goldpart where did you bye that station kit? Its wonderful how separates the stencil from de video chip.
nice work my friend,can you please tell me what wattage soldering gun are you using?
thank you
So the computer is running again, so you can install windows 7 and disable the timelapse
Thanks for this,good job!
just a basic trick from French polish technique (shellac ) : when turning on the edges (with the copper braid) turn direction = from inside to outside , so you do not catch "dust" or things stuck on the edges . Possibly a thing to keep in mind when cleaning the board . Thanks for the vid, I need to change a CPU socket 151, will it stand 200 ° or more ? Cheers !
Hahaha its ace how you've beat matched the tune in with the lifting off of the gpu at 4.09!! Quality! gud vid too, prob going to give this a go on my vaio, looks a bit of a ballache tho! (excuse the pun!) xx
a que temperatura se calientan las bolitas de estaño y donde consiguio la maquina y cuanto le costo?
Mi hai aperto un mondo amico :) bravissimo!!!
Amazing, houw did you do the thermometer with the ammether?? which component do you need? regard from México
Wow. That's some precision work there!
Hi very nice video.
How did you hold the solder balls on the chip before putting it on the board?
Interesting and good video! where you can buy? or is there any list of materials?
Hello Emanuele Vedovati,
I'd like to try to reballing here. Can you list the products (quimical) that you used in this video? And the equipaments?
Thanks
what temp do you use to flow the balls to the chip when it's still in the blue bga tool?
Unreal Tournament soundtrack ! :)) old good times...
Yes I found it. But I still have a question, it seems thath he used K type thermocouple, but the wiring resists only to 200 C, and the melting temperature is about 220. Thath's the reason why he used the thermo protective band?
Ciao, anche dopo tanti anni il tuo video è un ottimo spunto, una curiosità, che tipo di pasta usi prima di pulire con la traccia dissaldante? È sempre la stessa che usi prima di riposizionare lo stagno? Che tipo di solvente usi dopo per pulire? Qualcuno mette la pasta anche prima di dissaldare il chip tu che dici? Grazie
Hi,
Saw your comment that he should "stop dragging whick over [his] boards".
I am relatively new to this, not really sure what is the coorect/best way to do this, and hope you dont mind me asking what a better alternative would be?
Would it be to go over the board first with a soldering iron, and then whick, or only once over with a whick?
If you do not drag it, how would you do it?
Thanks - would appreciate any help
You MUST it was great, A + (which use to the PREHEAT?)
ma garantisce un buon risultato anche usando solo una stazione ad aria calda? immagino ci vorrà molta pratica usando questo metodo. non è che la temperatura si distribuisce male?
That's an awful lot of work but I'm itching to have that new equipment on hand. The other day I worked on one that the cpu was the cause of the problem and not the graphics chip. hp dv6000. I used some can aluminum and covered the seat that holds the chip, squirted some no-clean flux under from each side and hit it with a pen torch for a few and it worked like a charm!
ciao carissimo ti ringrazio per questo video stò comprando il Bga reballing kit 459 pz calore direttamente stencil reballing stazione da un sito cinese per cimentarmi in questa impresa di rimpiazzio palline per schede video invidia-ati.....spero di cuore che tu possa rispondermi poiche sono un autodidatta....mi sono comprato tempo addietro una stazione saldante dissaldante ad aria calda....secondo te è meglio usare per le schede video dei portatili invidia palline di stagno odi pionmbo?
fammi sapere ti supplico grazie ancora
Oh and i loooveeee good old ut music, been playng that game for so many years :) It suits you you are some kind of Xan Kregor of soldiering >:)
thank you for sharing this clearly not for the average pc enthusiast still a very good alternative .
Reball is the way to go guys and girls. and NO reflow doesnt do the same thing. See what your missing is when you reball the NEW type solder can handle MUCH geater temps. Allowing the system to be ok running at the hotter temp. (Just like they should have done from the Manufacturer) nice work for home made.
I really like your video...and I've seen a few along these lines.
Nice work pal... its defo the "Brain Surgery" of the laptop repair world!
Hey I just found your video. Awesome stuff.
stupendo
molto bravo
volevo sapere dove posso prendere questa attrezzatura ???? grazie
Antonio