Engines of Metro North EMD FL9
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Engines of Metro North EMD FL9
The fl9 is truly a legend when it comes to locomotives as it ran for over 50 years without fault and left it’s mark on several railroads. It ran on metro north, conrail, penn central and the new haven railroad. It was revolutionary and even though it is a bit old fashioned there are plans to put them back into service. There are also several preserved in museums all over the world.
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Although I never saw one in person, the FL-9 is kind of special to me. I enjoy slightly unusual stock equipment, and the Fl-9 and some of Fairbanks-Morse's "C Liners" which also had a B-A1A wheel arrangement seemed so cool to me.
It is a special piece of equipment
Make the trip out to Massachusetts if you can! There's 2 that run on the Cape Cod central line every day
I'd like to see a complete history of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad in the near future. In any case, thanks for the video production.
Could happen soon
I second that. I am a New Haven fan and model it in N scale
Same here
Rode the NH FL9 regularly to Boston as a child and then in later years commuting to Poughkeepsie.
This is awesome. When I was a youngster, the FL9s used to blow their horns as they ran on the line extending from Grand Central Terminal and into the Bronx and beyond. It was (and remains) a magnificent sight. Thank you for the memories. :)
Enjoyable video! As a kid, I watched NHRR Shore Line trains with my dad at the Old Saybrook station. My earliest memories of NHRR varnish were Alco PAs, which were eventually replaced by the FL9s. They made an impressive sight pulling crack NH expresses like the Merchants Limited. As for McGinnis, he was a crook who sadly drove the New Haven into bankruptcy. About the only good thing that came out of his short, disastrous reign was the livery bearing his name.
Great video!
A few FL9s still wearing their Metro North livery on the Cape Cod Railroad! 2011 is in regular tourist train service!
If you are interested try searching 'MassCoastal Dinner Train' you will find plenty of recent videos of the restored FL9s
On Cape Cod in Mass. The MassCoastal is using the 2 FL-9’s on their dinner trains and they look great! I was so happy to see them, and then find your video. Thanks!
These videos are awesome.my grandma lived on 116 and park facing the metro North Grand Central tunnel in the 70sand 80s
I saw them on 112th and park when I was young
I love the sound of these big v16 engines
You should include the music you used in the description. Thanks man I love this video lol
Thanks for the video.I remember these locomotives operating on the Harlem line.I'd hear the air whistle as they passed by where I lived.
The fl9 locomotives were one of the last f series units locomotives on amtrak roster. Amtrak stopped using other types of f series and e series locomotives during the late 1970s.
McGinnis is pronounced with a hard "G", and the "K" is silent in Morrison-Knudson. Work on your script. Do more than one take on the same lines so you can have more fluidity in your voice track without all those awkward pauses. Overall, good video. Information is accurate, nice video clips.
I agree. Good information, but just a bit rough or "stumbly" in the delivery...
Indeed
you say Oxford instead of Orford (Quebec)........
Seemed fine to me, think you are being a bit nitpicky, especially when you ain't got shit on your channel.....
@@KDill29 It's not really my thing. I have a full time job and a family.
It was constructive criticism, don't be so apprehensive.
I really admire the orange NH FL--9s. Thanks for the history, and the video.
I actually think that the New Haven rail yard in New Haven Connecticut still has some of them
Well these trains on now on the Cape Cod Railroad or now called MassCoastal Railroad. Putting around doing excursion, and dinner train rides. Also running the "energy" train (trash train) sometimes, when the other engine CCR has isnt.
When I was a teen in the 1960's I took the NYNHH to New Milford CT quite regularly. I recall the FL9's quite well. One trip on a Sunday evening back to NYC, I recall the conductor coming from the engine with a pair of work gloves on. Some trips the FL9's only went as far as Danbury and passengers had to transfer to a Budd RDC. The first time I was in an RDC I recall hearing the automatic transmission shift as we picked up speed.
Those times are now long gone
I was lucky enough to get invited to operate the orford express fl9
I actually saw the CTRail shoreline east commuter train today in Branford Ct.
Nice color scheme it looks like CN color
The FL9 also work at the LIRR in the 90’s in the Port Jefferson and then replace with DE30AC and DM30AC
that was one of the Starship rebuilds . they didn’t live up to the expectations.
These were my personal favorites because they just looked "right", didn't have a clue about the technology...but as a younger person would try and get pictures when ever I saw them from the boat...(fishing..nothing fancy) And the New Haven color scheme is also a favorite of mine. Thank you for bringing this video forward and going through the history.
Never heard of this locomotive, before. Heard of the "FT" series, but not the FL9. Quite a "survivor"...
Thank you for a well executed video presentation on EMD's FL9. To think that this remarkable locomotive came about due to the short-sided efforts by one Patrick McGinnis who wanted to cut costs by dieselizing an entire rail network. His tampering with a successful formula ( mainline electrification ) proved one thing . . . "if it ain't broke don't fix it." I can only imagine what might have happened if McGinnis and one other predecessor at the New Haven Railroad had focused on electrfying all the way to Boston and not go against the grain of logic.
This is great! I've seen Maine Eastern 489 and 488 in operation its nice that they are being used in tourist lines
Nice, the locomotives might be used in commuter service once again
Ex Amtraks.
Awesome video series on engines of Metro North.
I was sad to see ConnDot stop using the FL9's in their original classic McGinnis paint scheme although with their age it was bound to happen.
After I learned from this video “NH” New Haven Railroad, Even “NH” made the movie scene on “Superman”
What an amazing video. Amazing that a dual mode locomotive replaced a large chunk of New Haven’s electric locomotive fleet. New Jersey Transit and AMT in Montreal did the same thing when they purchased the ALP45DP: by replacing a majority of their diesel-electric locomotives with them, although NJT still continues to run some of their HEP-equipped GP40’s today.
You were right about the FL9. Not only is it a legend, but it is remembered as the very first dual mode locomotive built in the entire world.
Great video! The FL9 has always been one of my favorite diesel locomotives honestly.
What's crazy too is that this past summer, Amtrak was considering buying the 6 FL9s you mentioned at the end of the video to convert into NPCUs (similarly to the F40PH "Cabbage" units) due to the rerouting of trains to Grand Central during Penn Station line repairs. Amtrak's P32AC-DMs lacked a nose door and so crews couldn't get out of the locomotives in the terminals in case of an emergency, something the FL9s did have.
Unfortunately, Amtrak decided, due to cost, to temporarily lease out cab cars from MARC while their Genesis fleet was fitted with nose doors. I was in the Hudson Bay area that summer too, so I was hoping to get a glimpse of some FL9s in action for the first time. What a shame.
I was hope for the sane
Wow. Your right. I wasnt sure if you meant a normal full nose door. I now see what you mean. I looked at the P32AC-DMs online and they have that small escape door on the front. The FL9s do as well. Very cool. Thanks man. That is really cool
It was during the late 1980s or early 1990s that amtrak decided to rerouted all of the empire corridor trains out of Grand Central Station and into Penn Station .
This is a great video. I wish there were more videos on the EP5 locomotive. That was a powerful locomotive in it's prime.
I always wondered why there Diesels could operate in the grand central terminal.
They used third rail, whilst the prime mover became idle.
By time They were transferred to the Brewster and Poughkeepsie Conrail then Metro North trains the shoes were removed and they operated under desiel power all the way to GCT.
My favorite locomotive, especially with the Hancock air whistle.
The Hancock whistles are amazing
2011 & 2026 have both been returned to service on mass coastal
Yes Finaly an Engines of Metro North Series on youtube :D
One of these FL9s appeared in _Superman: The Movie_ as the train in Metropolis' Grand Central Station that hid the entrance to Lex Luthor's hideout and killed the cop Harry who was trying to follow Otis into it.
Also, the B-A1A could also be a B-C wheel arrangement and therefore an American counterpart to the _Thomas_ character BoCo.
I've seen 1 metro north FL9 #2019 since 2016, and i've seen a red white a blue one this year in 2019 last week on april 13th on Saturday evening when i was on the highway, after i saw my sister doing a rowing race, and i also saw Canadian pacific #1216!
Nice
Well done and in the 1990s these FL-9s in LIRR service used to be paired with LIRR C1s which were derived from Sydney New South Wales CityRail L,R,S & V sets. For Metro North they should have designed an Overhead Wires third rail locomotive for NY Grand Central to New Haven. Can you do engines of LIRR which would have shown the FL-9 replacement the DM30AC.
I’m gonna let someone else handle engines of LIRR
Love your video
One of the P40DC locomotives is one I saw 838
Pre Pen Central the FL9’s were used mainly on the Boston-Grand Central trains.
Another informative video... well done. Just One "suggestion".... Please, turn your background music.. Down, it's very distracting... better yet, don't even use it... it's really Not necessary. Thanks, and keep them coming, the information & history contained is Very much appreciated.
My uncle who worked on the New Haven called them FL4 1/2. This was because their performance was weak as far as keeping a train on schedule, especially compared to the EP5 Jets.
Examples of horn replacements for the FL9;
Nathan P5
Leslie RS5T
Leslie RS3L
Leslie RS2M
Nathan K5LA
Thank you
They remind me of Wilson from Chugington.
Wow, cool video!
One of the best made & love NH
Bro I live near those locomotives in Whippany train museum
They left a mark like no other in RR history. an amazing piece of machinery. They still run a couple on the Museum circuts don't they? I think there's 1 or 2 in Waterbury.
Most of them are preserved, I think the New England railway museum has 2
I remember when CTDOT was still using them, I would go down the back driveway into the yard & take pics of them, sitting bthere running. Got a lot of good pics back then & no one chased me out. They eventually put a shack & gate there.. In 2006 >20010 I would deliver traction sand down there on a flatbed. also did Stamford, Brewster yards.
They were true workhorses and are reliable to this day, at least the diesel part. A new commuter railroad between providence and Worcester are planing on using them to power their trains.
Nice video!
Thanks
FL9s forever!
Agreed
Hey!!! What the ABBA rebuilts?!? The “Starships”?!?
9:03 it’s pronounced “Wooster”
Ive ridden a train pulled by two!
Thank you for the great video & tribute to the FL-9's Would you be able to do one on the New Haven Railroad RS-3's? These were dependable diesel units that served well over many years.
Possibly
Was looking for this series. Anyone do engines of NJT, LIRR, or NYC subway (not really a railroad, but equipment and system have a lot of history)?
I will probably be doing metro north west of Hudson soon so that’s kinda NJT related. However nobody has properly done it yet.
That’s fine
I kinda already did, the only thing they had was the experimental coaches and the EMD DM30AC or whatever its called. I basically did all of their rolling stock
I’m gonna let someone else do that, I have an idea for another series after I’m done with engines of metro north that I kinda want to do. But after I’m done with that one who knows what I will do next.
FL9 Got Pantographs
The background music is a bit too loud but it’s not too bad. Otherwise, good video.
disappointed how you didn't include the two New York Central units and the 645 and 710 rebuilds under metro
I know, there was a lot of information that I have now that I didn’t have then
@nyrailfan 202 Can the FL9s run express along the New Haven Line?
New Haven EX FL9 running on Cape Cod Mass Coastal. Here’s a playlist that contains some FL9s. ruclips.net/p/PLEIl4aXA_JfXLM3adGZz2pLeINSn6M5VU
Surprised you didn't mention the FL-9 that sits outside of the Westchester Medical Center children's hospital site.
I forgot about it
Great locos to bad they did not have the tractive force of an ep5
3:23 Sounds more like a Thunderbolt 1000 siren.
I guess they do sound similar
What song plays at 7:17? Anyone know the name
NEXT engine will it be the FP10 Or Budd M2/M4/M6?
Just have to wait and see
I’d love to know where you got your information! I’d love to do just dive into the sources!
Way to many places, I don’t even remember all of them anymore
nyrailfan 202 eh it’s fine, but if you make another one, I’d love to know
4:32 what song is that
The FL9 was a good idea, but McGinnis was a crook, who went to jail for what he did to the New Haven and the Boston and Maine
3:22 Rails Unlimited Horn
Are these 2 stroke diesels still in service anywhere in the world?
Yes
What is that train at 0:58
Those are not Blomberg trucks, amigo.
Does anyone out there know who's offering CT rail DECALS in ho scale for purchase, looking to make 2 GP38 locomotives....help..
I dont know but maybe someone else will
What music did you use in this video??
Music form the RUclips audio library
nyrailfan 202 could you possibly give me the name of the one at 7:18 i have looked all over for it
It's really hard to hear you man. The music is way too loud or you are way too quiet. Not a bad video just speak up my dude.
I was still learning when I uploaded this. Hopefully I fixed the problem in my later videos
What are the names of the opening, second, and fourth songs?
They are all in the RUclips audio library
nyrailfan 202 👍👌🏼
nyrailfan 202 what are the names of them though in the audio library?
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Did anyone else see the twin towers at 6:15?
Well the video was supposed to take you back in time
Ik I just wanted to point it out. Great video btw this made the EMD FL9 my favorite locomotive!
That music is WAY too loud.
Also: "Museums all over the world." Really? Are there some in Belgium too? No? Just the US and Canada?" Ah... "The WORLD" you mean.
Chill
Too much music. Music should fade right after narration starts.
DISLIKE!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
P32-8 stinks!
very annoying music
Yeah I learned from that in later videos
I believe Mass Costal uses both, If not 1 of the FL9’s for the Cape Cod Central Railroad operations. I’m not sure if they are both in operating service or not. I do know that one currently has a K5LA, (The one I know for sure is in service.) and the other one has an RS2M. (Not sure if that one is being operated.)
Edit: Both are in service and have new K5LA’s.
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