Why bother buying USA? | Sterling by Musicman Ray24CA Review/Demo
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Finally got myself a stingray! Should I have saved money and gone for the Sub series? NOPE. So impressed with this Classic Ray24CA.
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The two channels I keep coming back to to listen to the Ray 24 demos are yours and low and lobster. I think both of your channels are my favorite bass channels now
It's a sign that you need to buy one 🤭 Thanks so much mate
@@JonnyDibble I'm trying to sell my mountain bike that I don't use because I actually have my eye on an original Ray34 at a pawnshop. They are asking $400 for it 😀
I've had the same model you have for a few months, I love it. Look forward to practicing!
And a week ago, I put on La Bella flatwounds.
Beautiful tone.
Sounds and plays brilliantly! I'm yet to try flats on it
I’m playing it with Thomastik flats…amazing!
Loving that verse-like groove you've got going on at the start of the vid. Ace. I've never dived into Music Man at all. Do like the sound. Aggressive asf.
Oh you! Yeah this the first one I've owned, sounds hench af considering its just 1 bridge pickup 👌
@@JonnyDibble The dual-pickup versions must be proper animal haha.
I have the blue Ray24, and I agree, the neck is fantastic, so slim by the neck. Great bass in that price range 👍🏻
Amazing! So fast and easy to play. Its one of those basses that inspires me to play differently, but in a good way? (If that makes sense?)
I totally understand..
@@JonnyDibble bro i know this video has nothing to do with my question. But my question is, if i buy (invest) Line 6 pod pro. That means I don’t need my FX pedals and Bass DI anymore right? Thank you for your answer in advance
@@airwinarceo4765 Hi! Potentially, I'd recommend getting the Pod then selling the pedals in case you like the sound if them combined! I was planning on selling my sansamp when I got the HX Stonp but in a live setting, I like the sound of both combined 😅😆
@@JonnyDibble thank you for the much information bro. Love all your video context very helpful and informative. Keep up the good work🤘🏼 i also follow you on your ig account mate✌🏼
I have a Ray 34 double humbucker and a Ray 34 single humbucker and I love both. So far I haven't regretted having both. Both cover every style of music. 🥰👍
I really really want the Ray34!
@@JonnyDibble Ray 24 and Ray 34 are almost the same. The big difference is the 2 band preamp (24) and the 3 band preamp (34). Body and neck are the same (mahogany / maple).
@@rolandhauke964 that roasted maple too tho 😍 I do find the slab body a bit annoying on my 24 after playing for a while
@@JonnyDibble Oh, you're right, I didn't notice that the body isn't that shaped
I have the Sterling Ray 34 double humbucker too as well as the 4 SUB and you can definitely hear the difference in tone and sound but they’re both amazing for the price. Since I’m just learning I thought they’d be a good starting point before eventually saving and learning enough to get an actual USA Stingray in the pricier(?) range.
The low end lobster had a great idea of getting a subray and upgrading the preamp and the pickups and the bridge too. The outcome was amazing.
Yeah sounded awesome! The upgrade form SUB to Ray24 is substantial imo
Doing all that,go ahead and buy a American stingray
@@reubenkinsey2947 Adding the John East pre-amp to the Ray24 still makes it cheaper than the Ray 34 and arguably sonically more versatile and its still a third of the cost of a new US one.
Steve Hunt sounds like a winner in my book, thank you 🙂✌️🎛️🎸🎸🎸
@@reubenkinsey2947 that’s what I was thinking but I’m still tempted by the short scale one 😀
The Sterling SUB has been on my radar for a long time, but it looks like the Ray is the way to go. Excellent video! “Maple *fingerboard” not neck. 😁
I'd say so! Seen a few similar comments
Yeah I always make that mistake, got it right the second time with fretboard haha
I don’t have any experience with musicman or sterling, other than the SUB 5 string I’ve had for about a month now, but it’s very nice for a $350 bass! If I played it blind I’d expect it to cost more. To me the weakness is the bridge and how heavy it is.
I was going to get the SUB until I played the Ray24 at a shop. The feel was so much better and sounded great. Then a few days ago the Butterscotch Ray24 was on a pre-black Friday sale and I locked in a $379.99 sale price on a new one.
Pay attention to that the Ray4/5 and Ray24/5 model has the pickup wired in series and not in the standard "parallel mode" like in Ray34/5 and USA models...there is NOT a lot of sound difference but if you are NOT a rookie bassist you can feel it...luckily it's very easy to fix the "issue" with a welder..
Sounds awesome. Lovely look too.
So does the bass 😍
@@JonnyDibble 😅
10:00 exactly the info I was looking for! I'm buying one of these necks to swap onto my Ray34 because I prefer the Jazz Bass nut width, and I'm not crazy about the roasted maple color that came on it.
These necks are way nicer than the Ray34s in my opinion!
It took you way too long to nag about the packaging AND I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT! :)
Thank YOU man! 😁
So what you’re saying if I buy new I won’t get that bubble wrap and duvet tone that you’re rocking here? Shit. Always eyeing these up, great video as always (and fresh cut mate)
Gotta pay extra for them "special" stains 😍 Thanks v much 😊
That's the one I want! Does sound better than the Ray 4 ... Thank you! I wish they came in Black or Sun Burst!! The yellow blonde there is okay maybe putting some road rash on it will give it some character ...
I can't wait till I can get one of these.
Amazing quality and sounding basses 😍
Is the difference huge between the 300 and 600 I plan on getting the 300 1 since I'm in 9-12 school and love the mint green
Sub has the same truss rod adjustment. I bought a mint green one recently and after a complete set up it including a full pocket neck shim it plays and sounds great, it does have a cheap looking bridge but it works fine. I have had a SR5, three Ray35's and now this sub5 and I like it the best plus it weighs 8.5Lbs
Oh yeah, they do! Set-ups are so crucial, a 5k bass wpuld play like a dog without a good set-up!
@@JonnyDibble The only bass I have ever owned that played perfect right out of the box was the US Peavey Cirrus. Of course someone set them of before they were shipped I'm sure of that....Even the nut was cut right...
@@Bass.Player Nice! I had a similar experience with my old Schecter Model T. Absolutely phenomenal out the box. But I guess its all personal preference at the end of the day!
Budget bass for some, dream bass for me. Damn 😅
Btw you said you are a pick player but you play nice with other styles as well!
Yeah nothing like the price of a proper musicman though 😅🥲 Thanks man!
Hey Jonny, great video. I’ve just realised I’ve bought your exact bass! (Same damage with the bit of fabric stuck in! and the loose tuner… can you tell me if you changed the strings when you got it? As the last owners not changed anything I think. And what would you advice to use? Heard dr bass are good?
Oh cool! I changed the strings when they died, and then several times since. On this one I believe it was always Daddario Pro Steels 105s. It's all personal preference when it comes to strings. Got to try different sets over time and see what works for you 😊
@@JonnyDibble cheers dude and of course you changed them strings 😆. Yeah they’re D’addario strings 👍 it’s a great bass!
Well... Yet another great video. This sounds a lot better than my SUB 4. I was wondering what camera you use, quality is great.
Edit: is yours a gloss finish? My SUB 4 has a matte finish on the body and it feels great
Thanks man! 🥰
Its a gloss finish yeah, have you got the sunburst SUB4? I saw that had a matte finish.
I use Sony A6300 and also an old Panasonic mini slr for bridge angle. Thunk I've managed to find my favourite playing angles in this video! Still learning 😁
@@JonnyDibble my SUB 4 is I think the vintage burst it's an orange into a red and I really like how it looks. That HX Stomp sounded great aswell
@@louie8604 Ah yeah I know the one, those look so so nice. Thanks! You'll here more from the HX next week 🤐😉
Hi I bought a sub ,was a little disappointed with the sound so stuck a Seymour Duncan and pre amp in and the difference is amazing
@@lucybarney1 Nice one!!
Mine is coming tomorrow!!
Woohoo! Hope you enjoy 😁
Just got one. Great, punchy bass!
It really is! Congrats 😁
I got one brand new for 450 us. Modding it to passive with a Seymore or Dimarzzio.
It sounds so clean, good humbucking tone that I like the bass.
So much clarity! Thanks for checking it out 😊
Im a bit uneducated in active basses so I have a question, in this specific bass, let’s say I run out of batter in the pre amp, can I still play “passively” without any batter replacement??? Or do I need batteries to play no matter what ???
No worries! So You can get active preamp and active pickuos. The battery in this vass powers the preamp, so if it dies the pickup will still work but will be much lower output without the preamp 😊
Outside of the fender jazz bass the music man bass is king the sub is killer with or without modifications and priced right.
All great basses! 👍
This is a solid bass. I got a used one for a 300 quid and I need to let go of my fender P. Lightening fast bass.
Great addition to the arsenal!
Dont P bass Is for Life! Same case as you but idk that preamp settings sounds a bit *mmmeh" after 10+ years of passives
1 - YOU ARE A BIG FELLOW! SMART! HUGE THANKS!!!
2 - YES... THIS IS GREAT BASS! - IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL AND HAS A MUCH MORE SOUND! BUT REALLY GORGEOUS!
3 - YOU'RE PLAYING A PREDICTOR... WHICH IS NOT GOOD... IF YOU SHOW BASS - THEN PLAY MORE WITH YOUR FINGERS. AND SWITCH THE TONES
BUT HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!
I hate the fact that they couldn't come up with a different name as a model they already had. Having said that, I had a Sting Ray until I wore out the frets. (I'm not big on fret replacements). So I sold it and got the Ray 24. Same exact instrument. And I agree, their truss rod adjustment should be a standard on all basses. Why can't they figure that out?
Love my Stingray Ray4. Do not let the Made In Indonesia made fool you. It is a well-made bass.
I'm thorn between the 25 or the 24. 4 or 5 string.... choices choices. Anyone?
A beautiful bass indeed
Cheers mate! I'm actually so pleased I got the butterscotch over black (if I'd had the choice). Looks incredible
@@JonnyDibble she's a pretty girl
I have a question about the bass: if you remove the battery, is it able to be played passively?
Yeah, the battery powers the preamp so it'll have much lower output, but it will work
I have the stingray 24, dropped an Aguilar pickup in her and DAMN! Sounds amazing! No need in dropping $2000 on a MM, unless I win the lottery or get a record contract 🙄😛. (do musicians still get big payday contracts?) 🤔
Awesome 😍
I’m so torn with this. I could get this bass right now, it sounds and looks awesome and I’ve always loved the Stingray design, but should I wait two months, save an extra £300 and just get the Ray34 with the natural finish and slightly crisper tone? It’s a toughy!
Oh man that is tough. The natural finish IS stunning, but how else could you spend that other 300? The 24 is way crisper than the sub series. I love the clarity of this bass but admittedly haven't heard the 34!
@@JonnyDibble Davie504 plays a 34 in alot of his videos. Great sound
@@thebigeasy87 if its good enough for Davie, its good enough for all of us! 😁
@@JonnyDibble The sound is in our hands, per Jaco.
Just imagin the pickups wires in parallel to get that real sizzle
A series/parallel option would be cool!
@@JonnyDibble oooo, please make a video if u do👍🏼
My 25ca has the same crack issues too but luckily it's on the back part of the bass. I pointed it out to the guitar shop guy and asked for a discount and he gave me a 120 USD price cut lol 😂
I honestly don't mind cosmetic damage, only bad thing for me is re-sale value 🥲
@@JonnyDibble yeah resell value is definitely a concern. But I think this one's staying for the long haul. Maybe I'll put a John East in. And since it's not expensive, I can be less cautious when I'm spazzing around at gigs 😂perfect workhorse lol
Sold my 2000 USA EBMM Stingray 2 band - Sunburst, Rosewood last year for $2100. Picked up one of these for $400 and rewired the pickups in parallel, per Lobster. Haven't looked back. (Not my main bass, I'm a Jazz / P bass guy. Just nice to have a Stingray around as another option).
Amazing! Pickups plural??
@@JonnyDibble Typo. Should read “pickup.” Sorry!
I'm looking to get one. Can these basses do down tuning well? Like Drop C or B? Or is that more with the strings? 4 string btw.
Would've thought it'll handle it well! But yeah, willl need heavier gauge strings and to make sure they fit well in the nut 😊
Been play It in A still lotta sustain and punch
Hi is it lighter in weight than the SUB too ?
Hi! I've not played a sub for YEARS so couldn't say unfortunately! Its on the light side for sure though
Hey how would you fix an open string buzz on a bass guitar? My A string has a pretty loud buzz when I pluck it open. I know you can put super glue and baking soda but I want to know if there’s another way to do it?
Hey man. What's the action like? Most buzz can be removed by a simple set up. Not sure what you mean about glue or baking sode?
@@JonnyDibble I think he means raising a nut slot using a mix of baking soda and super glue.
Fwiw, I’ve gotten a bad string on occasion; Ernie Ball strings ironically. Might want to try switching that string, if you know the setup is good, before trying something drastic with super glue
So you got a special edition FEDEX RELIC JOB STERLING OMG IM SO JEALOUS,LOL
Very limited run! Its subtle, but makes a huge difference to the tone! 😅
The Ray24 uses the same preamp and pickup as the Ray4. The only real difference between the two basses is the wood in the body and the bridge. It's kinda hard to justify paying an extra 50% to go from a Ray4 to a Ray24 when the difference is ever so small. Both are great basses though and great value.
Do you mean the sub series? I always thought they had different electronics. This one sounds a lot better when I've compared them together, but maybe that's my eyes playing a part haha
@@JonnyDibble Yeah, I mean the SUB series. I don't know if it was the case when the subs first came out, but they have been sharing the same electronics for a while now. Same pre-amp same ceramic pickup.
Would you say these are more worth it than epiphones cause they sound similar to the epiphones but seem more versatile
Hi! Which epiphone? I wouldn't say they sound much like a thunderbird. These have more clarity and a crisper high end, not to mention the neck 🤤
@@JonnyDibble mainly the t bird the definitely sound a bit different because of the different wood used but they use humbuckers so it does a little similar, i think a stingray could sound like a t bird with the right settings tbh
@@Owen-ne6pe Unmistakable humbucker sounds! The neck pickup on a T bird is what makes it so full sounding imo 🤤
In the process of installing a Tone Monster MM Humbucker p/u in one of my 90s model USA made Sterlings .....and IF you dont know the Tone Monster name.....WELL ...you MUST check them out .....GREAT preamps for half the price of MOST famous brand preamps.....and POWER for days ....along with GREAT TONE!!!!....But lets just keep all that between US ....hahahaha.....
Secret weapon! Thanks ill have to look it up!! 😁
Treble: Boost
Bass: Boost
...and rip off the knobs!
Turn it all up to 11
been playing Fenders and Stingrays for many years and I found you lose the mids this way. When you keep both tone knobs close to the middle, the sound is fantastic
@@rrdream2400 I definitely understand. I add mids with my pre-amp and it's sounds perfect. What's more, no fiddling with knobs or worrying if they get bumped out of position whilst I'm playing.
3:31 same
5:07 also same
@@jameskemp7002 Love nobs.
*knobs
Bought mine right off the wall at GC. It was set up, a rarity for GC. Great neck, great for $500. Not the shitty SUB bridge and preamp.
The SUB / Ray4 and the Ray24 have the identical preamp. Identical.
👍👏I prefer a ray 24 to ray 34
Nice! Sound or feel or both?
@@JonnyDibble sound , in Musicman style bass , i like a 2 band preamp.
In ray 34 , i love the wood and alnico pick up .
Sorry for my Inglish !!!😊
Is it still a good bass?
It's a really good bass!
Hello,
Which bass is better to play and more enjoyable and easier? Ray24 or Squier 40th Anniversary P-Bass?
Peace Yo.
That’s tough. Very different feeling necks to me! For was though, the Sterling has a much smaller neck so I’ll go with that
@@JonnyDibble Yo.
In what sense is it smaller? is it shorter? Or maybe it's about the width of the neck?
@@miszymat same scale, so it’s the same length, but it’s not as wide. Smaller in your hands but still the same length
Thank you
@@JonnyDibble so I guess it will be easier for me to learn to play the bass guitar on Ray24, considering that my fingers are a slightly shorter than an average adult guy lol
signal chain ?
Recored straight into the Line 6 HX Stomp, Ampeg SVT amp and cab sim 😊
I owned a Ray34 sterling played the hell out of it for 3 years and sold it like a dumb ass. I was lucky to obtained a Music man Sting Ray U.S. made with case- and there really is no difference in tone out side of price tag..but something is just bad ass about runnuing U.S. Sting rays - it's like going into the unknown dark forest with an M-60.
That would have been sent back. No way I would have kept that.
Here’s the Ray 34 in use: ruclips.net/video/VEKKJv5VzxY/видео.html
Weight?????
About 4kg (9 pounds) apparently!
If that bass was only $496.00, and I hit the LIKE button on #496, it would be awesome to give a F R E E bass away today. What could be better then that???
I'd love you to give agree bass away!
...active bass only with batteries? 🥴
Hmmmm?
@@JonnyDibble hello Jon! This Sterling Is an active bass? 🙄
@@warburgaby sorry I misunderstood. It has an active preamp with a battery compartment on the back 😊
@@JonnyDibble Ok! Sterling does not have a passive Ray24 like this? Thank you!!
@@warburgaby they do not. Stingrays aren't really passive basses!
Discgraceful packaging. I've never seen anything like it! Should have had his A slapped.
Certainly slapped his bASS
No competition between these and my 90s models USA MADE MM Sterling basses ....smaller body than the Stingray...3 band preamp...AND a 3 way blade switch for the 3 different coil configs for the p/u!!!....the necks and fret work is way more precise !!!!....nicer wood used for the necks and FRETBOARDS used back then!!!!!!....the 90s models are wanted models like the 70s Stingrays!!!!!!
And as we all know ...the STERLING models it was made to be the "HOT RODDED " Stingray ...VS now ...the name Sterling being used to Note its an overseas made bass.....
Overseas? We’re all overseas on the internet.
@@barrycreed9886 well ANY MM bass thats NOT made in USA are made .."overseas"....
@@basshoh Well, USA is overseas to me :)
I love my made in Indonesia Sterling, makes no sense spending that much more on an American made bass
Yeah its not double the amount of bass!
the American made used are a great option too, they are like half the price of what they cost new
Go up against ....DAVIE504~! I dare you!
Look for USA SUB rather than this.
Should always buy USA if you can
Big if I'm afraid 🥲
@@JonnyDibble 100% America forever dudes !