I just checked out a video by Analog Archives that referenced this channel. I'm glad to see it. My first punk show was CLown Alley, Sacrilege & RKL at the On Broadway. Circus of Chaos and Party With God are records i often return to. I have a copy of the Pepper's Abbey Road ep that features the "Fire" cover you had to keep playing. It's not something i listen to. My copy of Rock n Roll Nightmare was one of many records a desperate person sold from under my nose. That's more my "speed". I made sure to get that re-issue of the Poison Idea record that was on Alchemy. It's OK. Probably the other favorite from the label is Pain of Mind. But Neurosis was a sizzling live band when that was made. It's too bad the label didn't continue much farther.....i was at the Gilman show that Twisted played and thought they were really good. I know the people who interviewed the band and later raised a stink with Tim & MR&R about them (some skin head type nonsense). From what i heard this ruined the record being planned. Things people do in the scene like bands, record labels, zines and venues are fascinating. Sometimes they're only short-lived but the personalities making it all move really marks the time. Last week i was reading a book on the history of Ramparts --a glossy magazine with a left wing perspective from 1964-75. Apparently the people who started it (the Keatings) were neighbors of Shirley Temple. I wonder if Lori has stories about them as well as stories of the South Bay before it blew up into "Silicon Valley". I like your elucidating about the L.A. scene. The Masque was a rare moment. I look forward to hearing more
Thanks for your thoughts. Good to hear from a veteran of the SF scene. As my time in SF ended in 1988, I can't comment on anything that happened later. Check my video on Alchemy Records for more info on that experience. The Keatings may have been Lori's neighbors when she was growing up, and yes, she has plenty of tales about pre Silicon peninsula days...
The Peppers were so interesting in the late 80s, just fell off in originality when they got popular. Same old story: this is the best material we have ever put out....sure. Great story Mark, thanks for sharing!!! I still listen to the Clown Alley, Neurosis, and Melvins records to this day, thanks for all of that as well!!!
The medium of music is infinitely transitional especially in the "business". Musicians are mainly trying to keep themselves interested in what they do over decades...sometimes where they go is just not that interesting to their audiences ! Thanks for watching.
I remember gigging in L A when they looked like little kids. We called them "The Wet Hot Wooley Peckers". The rumor back then was that Flea was Lee Ving's son!
Holly cow! You and Lori Black dated! As a long time fan of The Melvins, I had to pause this video and take some time to reformat my brain before continuing. Thank you for the cool storries Mark! Oh you like Bach! Very cool! Speaking of Bach, I recently started reading C.P.E. Bach's book, Essay On The True Art Of Playing Keyboard Instruments. Fascinating book! One question, seeing as how you seem to be a seasoned musician. Any insights you might have for me would be very much appreciated. As an aspiring musician and bassist, I have all sorts of ideas for songs I'm writing and trying to flesh out this music alone at the moment. I've got my bass, and I'm starting from scratch learning vocals. I'm studying classical music and composition. My goal is to build myself into the bassist, vocalist, and songwriter and mabe put together a band later. I've got these songs I'm trying to realise into somewhat of complete music. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed with what I'm learning as far as vocals go. I still don't have drums. The point main is, I've got all this music in my head and I want to finish writing it at least to where I can hear it as real songs. Do you have any recommendations for getting around not having a drummer that I could lay in some drum tracks to help me write my music? Not sure if this is a stupid question. I'm not very tech savy, so I'm kind of behind with the current tools that are available for musicians.
I'll elaborate some more on Lori and I when I discuss the making of the Melvins Ozma coming up soon. RE the drummer thing : I suggest investing in Logic Pro (if you have a Mac). In addition to the crazy amount of loops etc, there are also drummer generation options that are super easy to use for a variety of styles. There's also bass and keyboard part generation in the newest version.There are many youtube videos about creating drum parts for songwriting etc. It's never been simpler to create quality drum parts with this stuff. Good luck and thanks for watching !
Thank you so much for the tips Mark! I'm kind of afraid of tech these days, however I trust your word more than countless people trying to sell me product. I look forward to the video about Ozma - my favorite Melvins record.
@@MarkDeutrom I thought it was cool you mention cliff liking beefheart , I know he went on to play with beefheart live and on the release of ice cream for crow
I just checked out a video by Analog Archives that referenced this channel. I'm glad to see it. My first punk show was CLown Alley, Sacrilege & RKL at the On Broadway. Circus of Chaos and Party With God are records i often return to. I have a copy of the Pepper's Abbey Road ep that features the "Fire" cover you had to keep playing. It's not something i listen to. My copy of Rock n Roll Nightmare was one of many records a desperate person sold from under my nose. That's more my "speed".
I made sure to get that re-issue of the Poison Idea record that was on Alchemy. It's OK. Probably the other favorite from the label is Pain of Mind. But Neurosis was a sizzling live band when that was made. It's too bad the label didn't continue much farther.....i was at the Gilman show that Twisted played and thought they were really good. I know the people who interviewed the band and later raised a stink with Tim & MR&R about them (some skin head type nonsense). From what i heard this ruined the record being planned.
Things people do in the scene like bands, record labels, zines and venues are fascinating. Sometimes they're only short-lived but the personalities making it all move really marks the time.
Last week i was reading a book on the history of Ramparts --a glossy magazine with a left wing perspective from 1964-75. Apparently the people who started it (the Keatings) were neighbors of Shirley Temple. I wonder if Lori has stories about them as well as stories of the South Bay before it blew up into "Silicon Valley".
I like your elucidating about the L.A. scene. The Masque was a rare moment. I look forward to hearing more
Thanks for your thoughts. Good to hear from a veteran of the SF scene. As my time in SF ended in 1988, I can't comment on anything that happened later. Check my video on Alchemy Records for more info on that experience. The Keatings may have been Lori's neighbors when she was growing up, and yes, she has plenty of tales about pre Silicon peninsula days...
The Peppers were so interesting in the late 80s, just fell off in originality when they got popular. Same old story: this is the best material we have ever put out....sure. Great story Mark, thanks for sharing!!! I still listen to the Clown Alley, Neurosis, and Melvins records to this day, thanks for all of that as well!!!
The medium of music is infinitely transitional especially in the "business". Musicians are mainly trying to keep themselves interested in what they do over decades...sometimes where they go is just not that interesting to their audiences ! Thanks for watching.
I remember gigging in L A when they looked like little kids. We called them "The Wet Hot Wooley Peckers". The rumor back then was that Flea was Lee Ving's son!
More cool info. Cheers Mark. 👊👊👊
Holly cow! You and Lori Black dated! As a long time fan of The Melvins, I had to pause this video and take some time to reformat my brain before continuing. Thank you for the cool storries Mark!
Oh you like Bach! Very cool! Speaking of Bach, I recently started reading C.P.E. Bach's book, Essay On The True Art Of Playing Keyboard Instruments. Fascinating book!
One question, seeing as how you seem to be a seasoned musician. Any insights you might have for me would be very much appreciated. As an aspiring musician and bassist, I have all sorts of ideas for songs I'm writing and trying to flesh out this music alone at the moment. I've got my bass, and I'm starting from scratch learning vocals. I'm studying classical music and composition. My goal is to build myself into the bassist, vocalist, and songwriter and mabe put together a band later. I've got these songs I'm trying to realise into somewhat of complete music. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed with what I'm learning as far as vocals go. I still don't have drums. The point main is, I've got all this music in my head and I want to finish writing it at least to where I can hear it as real songs.
Do you have any recommendations for getting around not having a drummer that I could lay in some drum tracks to help me write my music? Not sure if this is a stupid question. I'm not very tech savy, so I'm kind of behind with the current tools that are available for musicians.
I'll elaborate some more on Lori and I when I discuss the making of the Melvins Ozma coming up soon. RE the drummer thing : I suggest investing in Logic Pro (if you have a Mac). In addition to the crazy amount of loops etc, there are also drummer generation options that are super easy to use for a variety of styles. There's also bass and keyboard part generation in the newest version.There are many youtube videos about creating drum parts for songwriting etc. It's never been simpler to create quality drum parts with this stuff. Good luck and thanks for watching !
Thank you so much for the tips Mark! I'm kind of afraid of tech these days, however I trust your word more than countless people trying to sell me product.
I look forward to the video about Ozma - my favorite Melvins record.
Such a cool story mark!
One of the many strange episodes from my Los Angeles years...
@@MarkDeutrom I thought it was cool you mention cliff liking beefheart , I know he went on to play with beefheart live and on the release of ice cream for crow
Respectfully, your wife is stunning.
Cool.story-thanks.so.much.-one.of.a.kind.tale-.if.youd.be..accept.for.the.Chilly.Papers..we.wouldnt.get.the.Clown.Alley.so.there.one.good.thinng.about.it-you.rule.Mark
Thanks ! Certainly an interesting "what if" exercise if nothing else...