remember in their studios, rob and chris were really close to each other almost like at a ballgame. they dont have enough room in the studio to do a wide enough shot.
Pats are cheaters. I am shocked that no one brought up the fact that they were caught three times. To be caught that many times you aren't slightly cheating. You are all in on cheating. Considering how many millions and picks they have lost, it must be worth it if they keep going to far. It is a game of inches. A couple of plays going your way can win a game.
Oh boy don't get me started with all of the bogus cheating and saying we should strip the Patriots of their titles as a result of said cheating let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name? The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
To those above, my point is that they were CAUGHT cheating. If everybody is doing, yet you are the only one being caught, then you must either A) Be really bad at it B) Be breaking the rules so much and so often that you can't ignore it or C) NFL has something against them and is targeting them. Clearly the Pat's are an extremely smart football team so not A. As far as I can see, the NFL only loses face with the cheating scandels so most likely not C. I think the answer is clearly B. However, if the fine is only a million bucks and a draft pick, why wouldn't you do it? Even if you sum up all of the penalties, it is worth it for the run they have had. Not saying they aren't really talented, and couldn't have gotten at least 1-2 championships without pushing the envelope, but somehow the other 31 teams managed to not get caught cheating during the Pat's run. (Bountygate is unethical, but not does nothing in terms of competitive advantage.)
AGREED. i have ALWAYS maintained that MONTANA was the TRUE GOAT because he NEVER lost in the SUPER BOWL or threw a PICK. the man was FLAWLESS on the BIGGEST stage in the sport, and NEVER cheated
NEVER cheated? That's a bit of exaggeration let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name? The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including: 3 Super Bowl Championships 2 Super Bowl MVPs 1 NFL MVP to his name 2 All Pro Selections 4 Pro Bowl Selections Led the NFL in yards once and touchdowns as well He's 47-13 125 TDS- 28 INTS Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you but I'm just saying.
Same Jared. Montana: Never lost. Never threw a pick. 100+ QB Rating in EVERY Superbowl. Record for most points in a SB. Highest Margin of Victory. Higher PPG than Brady in wins and overall. Didnt rely on kickers for a majority of wins
@@playthatagainbruh394 you sit there and tell me how many times Montana was eliminated in the playoffs compared to how many times Brady was? Listen I don't know what else to say when it comes to this argument except that this is arguably the the dumbest argument of all time Yes Montana was 4-0 in Super Bowls, and yes he won 4 Super Bowls. Congratulations Joe Montana, and I'm not taking anything away from Montana because he's every bit of great that Brady is he is absolutely great. He was also eliminated: twice in the Wild Card Round twice in the divisional round and not once, not twice, but I counted 3 times he was eliminated in the NFC Championship game. Montana went one and done in the playoffs four times in 11 seasons. Brady has gone to: 9 Super Bowls he has gone to the big game 9 times 6-3 in those games he has gone one and done only 3 times in 17 Playoff seasons. He's: 2-2 in the Wild Card Round 13-2 in the divisional round and above all 9-4 in Conference Championship games Making the Super Bowl is better than losing before you make it there. Every athlete if you've ever played sports in your entire life you understand that you want to go as far as you possibly can until you lose. If you lose in the finals at least you made it to the finals.
Alejandrox2020 that’s just giving him the benefit of the doubt. So you either give high parties the benefit of the doubt or you give neither the benefit of the doubt. No in between
If I told you there was a coach who has 6 rings and 9 SB appearances but, he's been cheating for 15 years and he's black, would you respect him enough to put him in the H.O.F, if you have to think about it, I know your answer.
You know you can't really say that because Sean Payton was suspended for a year for being apart of Bountygate and he's a white guy so I'm just saying and you know Mike Tomlin tripped someone during a Steelers game but was he ever suspended as a result? Let's be real for a minute before bringing race into the conversation when its obvious that the NFL doesn't care what color you are when it comes to punishments by suspensions, fines, and stripping teams of draft picks....
The Pats are habitual line steppers!😂😂😂 "If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin!"😂😂 Rob has a point. Belicheck's disciples know all the tricks and beat the Patriots.
rob is right tho, we can do both. we can say that they have the greatest dynasty in league history, and still say that they are cheaters and habitual line steppers.
ROB IS RIGHT ANYBODY WITH A LOGICAL, COMMON SENSE MIND SHOULD SEE THEY SHOULDN'T BE.. However this is the era of social media and certain things being swept under the rug or people cool with fake stuff so they gonna remain the GREATEST team,coach,and QB ever 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
Oh boy don't get me started with all of the bogus cheating and saying we should strip the Patriots of their titles as a result of said cheating let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name? The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including: 3 Super Bowl Championships 2 Super Bowl MVPs 1 NFL MVP to his name 2 All Pro Selections 4 Pro Bowl Selections Led the NFL in yards once and touchdowns as well He's 47-13 125 TDS- 28 INTS Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you.
@@TheNatedoggva hey man be cool I said I wasn't going to pretend that stuff didn't happen but I'm just asking does it really matter since other successfu teams l have taken part of the same thing no need to be pissed
Rob is emotional, but he brings up good points that help his argument. Chris is all like STOP IT!!! , HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, or C'MON MAN!?. That being said, I love them both and the show.
Joe Montana didn't say he was cheater. He was being a nice guy. He didn't want to say bad thing about the Patriots.but Back then all teams were cheating on the play calls. College footballs were the worst.
What about the Indianapolis colts being fine for pumping in music when the offensive for the other team was on the field did help Peyton Manning out he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame either then
@@hajopluess8671 no it does not Belichick is still in the wrong but if were going to be biased and call him and only him out for cheating when several other coaches have done the same crime of cheating then we are guilty of what most people like to call Hypocrisy
The judge in New York City ruled in Brady's favor it was overturned only on the sensors that the commissioner goodell could suspend Brady Read the Wells report
@@hajopluess8671 does that make it right for the Steelers to use Steroids in the 70s? Don't get me wrong its still tainted for the Patriots but that doesn't excuse everyone else
Lawrence Taylor is the GOAT. Nobody dominated games like he did, and he never even had the football in his hands. Teams designed their entire offenses around trying to slow him down, and they couldn't do it.
You know, it's funny. Your right. Detroit Lions suck so bad that it is indeed "evidence" that they have never cheated. However, what the Detroit Lions and other teams that suck and don't cheat have that the Patriots don't is dignity and true respect for the game. Cheating to become a winner is a MUCH LARGER looser than a team that plays by the rules and sucks.
The Patriots and Tom brady get credit for SIX' Super Bowels that they cheated in never got penalized during the regular season the way they should have aka' Michael Vick. Michael Jordan never had to cheat 6ix' rings and the most dominate player ever!!!
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
So we going to look over the fact that the fine was because it wasn't a first offense. Not because they were caught cheating. Stop changing what the reports say Rob
Brady didn't actually get caught. He took that 4 game suspension on the chin and they STILL went back to the super bowl and won! What y'all got to say about that?
Well, let me ask you this. Do you believe a caught cheater should be given an honorable place in the H.O.F.? If they are added, there should be a ton of ********************.
@@hajopluess8671 then maybe we should put asterisks around some of the Broncos players because they're known cheaters as well I mean if were going to be fair about the whole cheating thing
I don't know, Chris's point about Montana is compelling, but it doesn't change the fact that AT LEAST Belichick cheated their way to success. Is it OK to name Belichick one of the best coaches of all time even though he cheated his way to the top? Maybe Chris is right, at this time, Aaron Rodgers should be the possible candidate for the GOAT title due to his MUCH LESS checkered career.
@@hajopluess8671 the man didn't try to change the fact that Belichick cheated but to call only Belichick out for cheating when Bill Walsh sabotaged the headsets of another teams coaching personnel is a really stupid thing to do
He never said it was about Montana and he has no L to hold the man said that New England cheated but the other successful teams cheat too so are we really going to be that biased when we all know that our favorite football teams cheat as much as New England does? 49ers, Steelers, Raiders especially, Saints, Broncos
@@hajopluess8671 I wish I had a good answer for that question but I honestly can't think of anything at the moment I mean the Raiders have cheated their way to success before so we might have to ask them
Rob and one of those callers are really saying even though Montana admitted to cheating that since he didn’t get caught it’s alright, but Brady/Patriots cheating and GETTING CAUGHT means they can’t be the GOATS and their championships from other years should be taken
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
If I murder someone and don’t get caught, am I not as bad as someone who murders someone and gets caught? Rob, in my eyes, has very little integrity. He’s so biased.
True, but the caught cheaters should not be let off the hook and be pardoned all the way to the H.O.F. When past players are caught cheating, they will either get a large * or be removed.
@@hajopluess8671 no ones being let off the hook here as far as I'm concerned EVERYONE is guilty of sin....including my favorite team the Ravens to this day I still don't know why we had to put a bounty on Hines Ward but then again when I watch him on the tapes he really was a cheap shot artist they even had to change the rules because of him
Elliott Portlock agreed, but what I’m saying is they don’t deserve to be in the H.O.F. because of their very checkered past. They have been caught, cheating is cheating. In my opinion, this either leaves a nasty * on their record or eliminates their chances. Especially for Belichick.
@@hajopluess8671 well if we are going to be fair then maybe we should do the same to Bill Cowher because he admitted that everyone ,including his team the Steelers, was stealing signals like the Patriots were back then so I don't know that's just how I feel about that whole Spygate situation I mean by no means do I justify what Belichick was doing but he shouldn't be the only one punished for crimes that other coaches have committed in the past
Rob is ignoring other facts just because they didn't get caught but is holding on to deflategate. Also bellichick was the one who got suspended for a whole season and fined. 🤨
Breaking News: to all the sports teams and individual players out there, don't worry about all the CHEATING and RULE BREAKING stuff, as long as you win, we won't criticize you, instead, we'll just talk about all the records you brake and how amazing you are 👏 👏
I honestly don't think that last incident was intentional cheating considering that there's no evidence that Bill Belicheck ordered that to happen that way, it just seemed to me to be a misunderstanding by the videographers on what they could and couldn't film....I mean, they did allow the camera men up there BUT even as a long time fan who's had to eat a lot of crow over the years, I won't argue that the cheating has tainted their legacy. I do still think Bill is the GOAT coach. I do still think that Brady is one of the greatest QBs ever but there's certainly an asterisk next to their accomplishments but I won't go as far as to say that neither of them are as talented as we think.
im not gonna let these very vague rulings of how new england of "cheated" bc they did way more to the game football schematically and team philosophy wise than any other organization and you would notice that if you're a student of the game
Lawrence Taylor, Michael Irvin, Terrell Owens and Peyton Manning (strange I know) were crack addicts and drug users, Ray Lewis, OJ Simpson, and Marvin Harrison are alleged murderers, and again Peyton Manning was accused of rape by his personal trainer at college do they deserve to banned from the H.O.F? Answer me honestly? Cheating is bad but it's not as bad as some of these other crimes that have been committed by H.O.F Players and Coaches...
@@tonylove6682 all I'm saying is if we're going to ban Bill Belichick from the H.O.F for cheating then we might as well ban the other coaches in the past who have cheated like Bill Cowher who said that the Steelers were doing pretty much the same thing that Belichick was with the Spygate thing and you might as well shove Bill Walsh in there for sabotaging the headsets of the Giants coaching personnel
Cheating is very prevalent in sports. it doesnt excuse it, but the only way to uniformly identify and measure cheaters is whether you got caught by rules at the time. Bonds never failed an MLB drug test. Sure his Dr.s office was busted. but unless you investigate every other players Dr, you cant apply the same standard to everyone. Tom Brady and the patriots were caught cheating multiple times. The track athletes failed tests. Lance armstrong passed every test. Thats the difference... one failed the tests (and i agree the bar isn't high, but at least its uniformly applied) the others did not.
I totally agree with Rob. Someone created on me in a card game called Spades back when I was a little boy and everytime I see this dude I look at him funny and as a CHEATER and that was over 30 years ago.
@@bezogib I would also look at them as a cheater, however, more of my focus would be on the person I caught than the person who admitted they cheated some where down the line. Chris's deflecting started with him throwing Joe into the conversation instead, of keeping the focus on the Patriots.
@@percybedford6266 Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws like everyone else does and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including: 3 Super Bowl Championships 2 Super Bowl MVPs 1 NFL MVP to his name 2 All Pro Selections 4 Pro Bowl Selections Led the NFL in yards once and touchdowns as well He's 47-13 125 TDS- 28 INTS Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you. The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there and be biased against one successful team for cheating while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
@@ravens52raylewis87 You are right - the sport is corrupt! However you have to admit that there are different levels of cheating. Trying to get a physical advantage by cheating is wrong but spygate is on another level. If we are being real, we know that loads of NFL players across all the teams take PED's. We can tell the NFL is ok with PED use because their penalties for being caught are not sufficient to be a deterrent. Silicone, stikum is in this vain. Knowing what the opposing team is going to do before they do is the perhaps just below bribing the refs when it comes to your attitude to the game. The Patriots are like East Germany back in the day who doped all their athletes ie at the national level. What's even worse is the Patriots got caught and it didn't change their behaviour.
Rob said absolute nonsense and couldn’t even respond to what Chris said because the flaw in his logic is so egregious. The idea that cheating is only wrong if you get caught is ABSURD. If someone admits to cheating but never got caught it was just as wrong as the people that got caught. You’re basically saying being GOOD at cheating makes cheating okay.
@@rickyrobby8133 You said "If someone admits to cheating but never got caught it was just as wrong as the people that got caught" so in other words Brady and Belichick are unworthy of being GOATs because they got caught cheating! You just made Rob's point
@@ForeverFootball3 what…? That’s a wildly disconnected leap in logic. I said cheating is wrong, I didn’t say anything about it invalidating your goat status.
QUESTION? O.J Simpson was found not guilty so why don't you bring him on your show....he didn't get caught so he didn't murder anyone......so get him on your show let's hear his nfl picks for the 2020 season.....and his opinion of who the goat is...
In every sport there are teams (most of the ones that win) that will do anything to win, including questionable things. The exact same things are going on in the MLB and performance enhancing drugs are used to the extreme in endurance sports. Rob said that you still need hand eye coordination to hit it out of the park so juicing isn't that bad in the case of Barry Bonds (paraphrasing) but you could make the same rationalizations about any kind of cheating. Patriots taped other teams, but they still had to go out there and make those plays and win those games. Did all the players know? We don't know. Rob hates the Patriots beyond reason, as though they harmed his family in some way or wronged him personally. He needs to cool it. If you're going to hate on anyone, hate on the NFL for allowing these things to happen and basically looking the other way for years. Blame the MLB for doing very little to discourage cheating and not stripping the Astros or Red Sox of their titles. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
what Rob also mentions is that barry bonds was never failed an MLB test. Did he do steroids, almost definitely, but there is no hard proof. The patriots were caught. The Astros were caught. The NFL found that there was proof. Or in deflategate an indepedent lawyer said "more likely than not" which was the burden of proof they were asked to evaluate. Brady himself was punished not for deflating the balls, but for destroying the phones with the evidence.
Barry Bonds was never caught cheating or failed a drug test like those other guys on that list. They just want Bonds because he has the most prestigious record in baseball
Could you imagine if a black coach cheated this much, he would get no respect, whitey does it, he's the G.O.A.T. HE SHOULD'VE BEEN KICKED OUT THE LEAGUE 15 YEARS AGO!
You know you can't really say that because Sean Payton was suspended for a year for being apart of Bountygate and he's a white guys so I'm just saying you know Mike Tomlin tripped someone during a Steelers game but was he ever suspended as a result? Let's be real for a minute before bringing race into the conversation when its obvious that the NFL doesn't care what color you are when it comes to punishments by suspensions, fines, and stripping teams of draft picks....
Rob Parker is like Gomer Pyle: "Citizen's Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!" Rob is a lone insane voice in the wilderness who lives off honey and wild locus. He is a bitter, pathetic little man, hell-bent on destroying the character of a decent person in Tom Brady.
Rob is being ridiculous how can you exonerate Barry Bonds but not Tom Brady. Bonds cheating was way worse and ruined the sport of baseball that he loves so much. Brady cheated too but if he took steroids he would have even more rings. Bonds is def not the GOAT wasn't even the best player in his era, Ken Griffey was better and he did it the right way
"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" Al Davis is proud 😂😂😂
@Braking Ankles clown
y'all gotta bring the camera back for the RUclips videos 😂😂😂😂 this would have been hilarious
Yeah, especially since the rest of FS1 analysts are back in the office
For reaall
Rob sipping on his Cola in between listeners calls 😂
remember in their studios, rob and chris were really close to each other almost like at a ballgame. they dont have enough room in the studio to do a wide enough shot.
Anytime The Patriots or Tom Brady comes up it's gonna be a great show 😭😭
Miss seeing Chris face when he says stop it lol
That STOPPP ITTTTT took me out LMFAOOOO!!
'Yes they did they're share of winning but even more w/cheating' 😂 Rob Parker
Pats are cheaters. I am shocked that no one brought up the fact that they were caught three times. To be caught that many times you aren't slightly cheating. You are all in on cheating.
Considering how many millions and picks they have lost, it must be worth it if they keep going to far.
It is a game of inches. A couple of plays going your way can win a game.
Yes, thank you. In fact, Goodell decided to destroy evidence of MANY YEARS WORTH of illegal filmings of other teams playcalling.
Oh boy don't get me started with all of the bogus cheating and saying we should strip the Patriots of their titles as a result of said cheating let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name?
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
To those above, my point is that they were CAUGHT cheating. If everybody is doing, yet you are the only one being caught, then you must either A) Be really bad at it B) Be breaking the rules so much and so often that you can't ignore it or C) NFL has something against them and is targeting them.
Clearly the Pat's are an extremely smart football team so not A. As far as I can see, the NFL only loses face with the cheating scandels so most likely not C. I think the answer is clearly B. However, if the fine is only a million bucks and a draft pick, why wouldn't you do it? Even if you sum up all of the penalties, it is worth it for the run they have had.
Not saying they aren't really talented, and couldn't have gotten at least 1-2 championships without pushing the envelope, but somehow the other 31 teams managed to not get caught cheating during the Pat's run. (Bountygate is unethical, but not does nothing in terms of competitive advantage.)
@@matthewmcarthur4782 so taking out a teams best player gives no competitive advantage? That's what Bountygate was all about
The fact that they got caught spying on a team like the Bengals make you wonder what other kind of cheating they’ve been doing....
If you research further, they have been doing it for YEARS.
@@hajopluess8671 If you research further, you will know how dumb you sound right now.
AGREED. i have ALWAYS maintained that MONTANA was the TRUE GOAT because he NEVER lost in the SUPER BOWL or threw a PICK. the man was FLAWLESS on the BIGGEST stage in the sport, and NEVER cheated
NEVER cheated? That's a bit of exaggeration let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name?
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
spelled: H Y P O C R I T E
Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including:
3 Super Bowl Championships
2 Super Bowl MVPs
1 NFL MVP to his name
2 All Pro Selections
4 Pro Bowl Selections
Led the NFL in yards once and
touchdowns as well
He's 47-13
125 TDS- 28 INTS
Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you but I'm just saying.
Same Jared.
Montana:
Never lost.
Never threw a pick.
100+ QB Rating in EVERY Superbowl.
Record for most points in a SB.
Highest Margin of Victory.
Higher PPG than Brady in wins and overall.
Didnt rely on kickers for a majority of wins
@@playthatagainbruh394 you sit there and tell me how many times Montana was eliminated in the playoffs compared to how many times Brady was?
Listen I don't know what else to say when it comes to this argument except that this is arguably the the dumbest argument of all time
Yes Montana was 4-0 in Super Bowls, and yes he won 4 Super Bowls. Congratulations Joe Montana, and I'm not taking anything away from Montana because he's every bit of great that Brady is he is absolutely great.
He was also eliminated:
twice in the Wild Card Round
twice in the divisional round
and not once, not twice, but I counted 3 times he was eliminated in the NFC Championship game.
Montana went one and done in the playoffs four times in 11 seasons. Brady has gone to:
9 Super Bowls
he has gone to the big game 9 times
6-3 in those games
he has gone one and done only 3 times in 17 Playoff seasons. He's:
2-2 in the Wild Card Round
13-2 in the divisional round
and above all 9-4 in Conference Championship games
Making the Super Bowl is better than losing before you make it there. Every athlete if you've ever played sports in your entire life you understand that you want to go as far as you possibly can until you lose. If you lose in the finals at least you made it to the finals.
Alejandrox2020 that’s just giving him the benefit of the doubt. So you either give high parties the benefit of the doubt or you give neither the benefit of the doubt. No in between
So by your analogy losing in the super bowl is a worse achievement than not making it to the playoffs?
I’m convinced Andre from Massachusetts is Michael Rappaport 😂😂
“Thanks for taking my cawl”
Deflategate was bogus. Harrassment to trip up the streak.
Rob Parker wouldn't say this if Aaron Rodgers was on the Patriots
If I told you there was a coach who has 6 rings and 9 SB appearances but, he's been cheating for 15 years and he's black, would you respect him enough to put him in the H.O.F, if you have to think about it, I know your answer.
Facts
Hard hitting comment this as real as it gets i didnt think of that but your comment sure got me looking at another perspective i must admit
No. I don't care what's the race... I CAN'T STAND LIARS AND CHEATERS
You know you can't really say that because Sean Payton was suspended for a year for being apart of Bountygate and he's a white guy so I'm just saying and you know Mike Tomlin tripped someone during a Steelers game but was he ever suspended as a result? Let's be real for a minute before bringing race into the conversation when its obvious that the NFL doesn't care what color you are when it comes to punishments by suspensions, fines, and stripping teams of draft picks....
Nah.. Hes pretty tough on Lebron who happens to be black and Lebron is kind of a black activist. so your point is invalid.
The Pats are habitual line steppers!😂😂😂
"If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin!"😂😂
Rob has a point. Belicheck's disciples know all the tricks and beat the Patriots.
@Dats a paddlin You're a funny man. I have a question for you. If that was the case, why did Belichick need to cheat in the first place then?
@@hajopluess8671 tell that to Sean Payton and Bill Walsh
I am with Rob Parker on this one!
Why? He is wrong.
Clown
They got caught several times. You have to think they'd been doing it for years to be caught multiple times.
rob is right tho, we can do both. we can say that they have the greatest dynasty in league history, and still say that they are cheaters and habitual line steppers.
That's how I feel about that situation
He’s saying that they can’t be both...
Been waiting for this haha. Missed show yesterday. Yall need to replace clay travis morning slot
Love these guys great
Joe Montana never said what he did to cheat he talked about o-line and D-line
You reachin'. 😂😂😂
@@JaeWest Nah he spot on an you are off
@@JaeWest Bradysexuals always overreach
@@fm32047 A brady hater talking about reaching, can you say "Irony"?
Jerry rice openly said he used stickum which was illegal in the nfl. That’s a fact he’s a cheater too
What about bounty gate for the New Orleans saints I'm sure Drew Brees benefited from that but he'll go into the Hall of Fame
Rob Parker is so right about the Patriots lol.
Hes been trying to be right for 9 years, its been his mission to hate on the patriots hes never been right
If they can't be disqualified then apparently nobody will.
I'm glad Rob Parker is not a nfl hall of famer voter
Rob is right. Consistency is all he is asking for.
He's a hypocrite because he's never consistent
@@stinger5127 Maybe, but he's right here.
Oh somebody from that franchise is going to come out with a tell all book...
Nah
@@Mj-uz1ngYah
This is a heated argument.
Damn chris went in on rob bruh im in tears right now 😂😂😂
ROB IS RIGHT ANYBODY WITH A LOGICAL, COMMON SENSE MIND SHOULD SEE THEY SHOULDN'T BE..
However this is the era of social media and certain things being swept under the rug or people cool with fake stuff so they gonna remain the GREATEST team,coach,and QB ever 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
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As a fan of sports. Robs right
Jakefrum St8farm The Broncos got caught cheating the salary cap both years they won the SB with Elway are they cheaters
Nobody talks about colts cheating and hgh peyton manning. It's so ridiculous how we only focus on Brady and everybody skates by with their cheating
I don't like the Patriots but there wouldn't be so much focus if they hadn't won so much.
Difference is manning did it to recover from an injury you bum. Just like Edelman took PEDS. Did you forget bout that? Lmao
I agree with Rob 100%. Everyone knows they cheated on at least 2 of their championships..
Oh boy don't get me started with all of the bogus cheating and saying we should strip the Patriots of their titles as a result of said cheating let me be as honest as I possibly can when I say this: Jerry Rice using stickum is cheating but do we hold it against him? why no of course not why should we even though it was cheating? Joe Montana and the other 49ers players by spraying silicone on their jerseys was cheating but does anyone question how great they were? Bill Walsh's headset salesman with Bill Parcells and the Giants was cheating do we question his name?
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
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Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including:
3 Super Bowl Championships
2 Super Bowl MVPs
1 NFL MVP to his name
2 All Pro Selections
4 Pro Bowl Selections
Led the NFL in yards once and
touchdowns as well
He's 47-13
125 TDS- 28 INTS
Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you.
@@ravens52raylewis87 IF THAT'S THE CASE, HOW COME NOBODY ELSE IS GETTING CAUGHT? BECAUSE THEIR NOT CHEATING THE WAY THE PATRIOTS. GTFOH
Jerry Rice admitted to wearing stick em. Chris is right
@@TheNatedoggva hey man be cool I said I wasn't going to pretend that stuff didn't happen but I'm just asking does it really matter since other successfu teams l have taken part of the same thing no need to be pissed
Who’s everyone? You’re clearly not objective at all.
Funniest sports program I’ve seen!! They are great.
Chris is too emotional and argumentative, doesn't make a good debater. I don't agree with everything Rob said but he makes more sense.
Just curious. If Chris is too emotional.. then how would you describe Rob? Cuz to me he’s all emotion lol.
Usually Chris comes with way more facts. Rob just a hater 90% of the time. They both get heated and it's hilarious
Rob is emotional, but he brings up good points that help his argument. Chris is all like STOP IT!!! , HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, or C'MON MAN!?. That being said, I love them both and the show.
zooie z yeah but Chris is the least biased out of the two
@@vincegonzalez6804 Robs got strong opinions that's for sure. Cool that when either are wrong they admit it.
I respect Chris Broussard for being consistent about athletes & coaches cheating.
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Rob Parker isn't...
Agreed
Yeah just let everyone cheat who cares
@@vinnybrown1122 Thanks Vinny, I appreciate your comment.
Joe Montana didn't say he was cheater. He was being a nice guy. He didn't want to say bad thing about the Patriots.but Back then all teams were cheating on the play calls. College footballs were the worst.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO LAUGHED WHEN CHRIS SAID "ITS A TAINT, A TAINT!"
Rob speaking facts.
No
@user-jt4ug5uy9v yeah he is lil boy
What about the Indianapolis colts being fine for pumping in music when the offensive for the other team was on the field did help Peyton Manning out he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame either then
And Jerry rice had stickem on his gloves
Just bc everyone cheats doesn’t lessen the fact of you being a cheater! 🤷🏾♂️
Once again, does it put Belichick in the right to cheat his way to success?
@Braking Ankles Bill Cowher even said that everyone was stealing signals
@@hajopluess8671 no it does not Belichick is still in the wrong but if were going to be biased and call him and only him out for cheating when several other coaches have done the same crime of cheating then we are guilty of what most people like to call Hypocrisy
who takes rob parker seriously?
No one
The judge in New York City ruled in Brady's favor it was overturned only on the sensors that the commissioner goodell could suspend Brady Read the Wells report
You can’t deny they did cheat.
I didn't hear Broussard deny it I thought he said that it was tainted?
@Dats a paddlin Does it put Belichick and possibly Brady in the right to cheat their way to success?
@@hajopluess8671 does that make it right for the Steelers to use Steroids in the 70s? Don't get me wrong its still tainted for the Patriots but that doesn't excuse everyone else
Elliott Portlock I’m not saying it does. Lol
Who cares everyone cheats
"Stop It!!!" .... this is what I wait for hehe
Chris beat Rob with a ugly stick on this one. Rob couldn’t even make real points against what Chris said.
Rob Parker sounds like blankman when he speaks 😂
Lawrence Taylor is the GOAT. Nobody dominated games like he did, and he never even had the football in his hands. Teams designed their entire offenses around trying to slow him down, and they couldn't do it.
Maybe at his position but he doesn’t have the longevity at his prime to be the GOAT
Uh oh time for a roast. 😭😭😭
Rob, I know for a fact your Detroit Lions never cheat! They've stunk up the NFL for over sixty years now!
Raider Rule #1: Cheating is Encouraged!
You know, it's funny. Your right. Detroit Lions suck so bad that it is indeed "evidence" that they have never cheated. However, what the Detroit Lions and other teams that suck and don't cheat have that the Patriots don't is dignity and true respect for the game. Cheating to become a winner is a MUCH LARGER looser than a team that plays by the rules and sucks.
Chris Broussard Definitely Torched 🔥Rob Parker In This Topic Debate 😂
no he didnt. Karen cant torch anyone. Rob owns Karen Broussard
fm32047 nah clown
Chris, you lost this one. NE got caught, busted. Montana said they skirted the rules. But you don’t know what they did wrong???
He never said that they weren't cheaters the man said it was tainted.....
The Patriots and Tom brady get credit for SIX' Super Bowels that they cheated in never got penalized during the regular season the way they should have aka' Michael Vick. Michael Jordan never had to cheat 6ix' rings and the most dominate player ever!!!
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
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Jordan respected the game of basketball too much to have stooped to these levels.
So we going to look over the fact that the fine was because it wasn't a first offense. Not because they were caught cheating. Stop changing what the reports say Rob
Brady didn't actually get caught. He took that 4 game suspension on the chin and they STILL went back to the super bowl and won! What y'all got to say about that?
I was rockin with Rob until he said he wouldn’t vote for Brady or Bill for the hall of fame!!
Well, let me ask you this. Do you believe a caught cheater should be given an honorable place in the H.O.F.? If they are added, there should be a ton of ********************.
@@hajopluess8671 then maybe we should put asterisks around some of the Broncos players because they're known cheaters as well I mean if were going to be fair about the whole cheating thing
Im a Patriots hater, but Chris destroyed Rob on this debate. Chris is Right.
Yeah Rob is just being too emotional it's like Tom Brady killed his kitten or his dog
Same I was upset he lost lol
I don't know, Chris's point about Montana is compelling, but it doesn't change the fact that AT LEAST Belichick cheated their way to success. Is it OK to name Belichick one of the best coaches of all time even though he cheated his way to the top? Maybe Chris is right, at this time, Aaron Rodgers should be the possible candidate for the GOAT title due to his MUCH LESS checkered career.
@@hajopluess8671 the man didn't try to change the fact that Belichick cheated but to call only Belichick out for cheating when Bill Walsh sabotaged the headsets of another teams coaching personnel is a really stupid thing to do
Hell no. Rob is right. Chris got body bagged
This ain't about Montana Chris cmon u gotta hold this L Chris 😁😁
He never said it was about Montana and he has no L to hold the man said that New England cheated but the other successful teams cheat too so are we really going to be that biased when we all know that our favorite football teams cheat as much as New England does? 49ers, Steelers, Raiders especially, Saints, Broncos
Cheating is a part of sports & there’s no such thing as integrity in these sports!
If that was the case, why aren't all the other 31 teams in the NFL cheating like crazy too? They want to win as much as the Patriots do.
@@hajopluess8671 I wish I had a good answer for that question but I honestly can't think of anything at the moment I mean the Raiders have cheated their way to success before so we might have to ask them
Don't suppose me nothing!
Should've used the lance armstrong situation and see what rob says.
At the end of the day, all of the teams cheat.
You still have to drive that ball down the field consistently on 4th quarter drives
Rob and one of those callers are really saying even though Montana admitted to cheating that since he didn’t get caught it’s alright, but Brady/Patriots cheating and GETTING CAUGHT means they can’t be the GOATS and their championships from other years should be taken
It’s a ridiculous argument, “cheating is only bad if you get caught doing it,” is a horrible mentality. Either cheating is wrong or it isn’t.
With Tom Brady. I'm just not sure where the cheating began or ended. However if you didn't get caught is it cheating....never mind he did get caught 😳
They didnt cheat in the super bowl against atlanta
@92rome how did they cheat in the other Super Bowl games?
@@ravens52raylewis87Thank you they earned them super bowl wins.
Chris please STOP DEFLECTING.
How is chris deflecting when rob is the king of the nit pickers and deflectors?
This is hard for me but Rob Parker is right NE is tainted they were caught cheating 3 times in the last 20 yrs (Winning in the last 20 yrs)?
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there with your sensitive ass and be biased against one successful team while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
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If I murder someone and don’t get caught, am I not as bad as someone who murders someone and gets caught? Rob, in my eyes, has very little integrity. He’s so biased.
You hit it right on the nose my you are spot on with that statement
True, but the caught cheaters should not be let off the hook and be pardoned all the way to the H.O.F. When past players are caught cheating, they will either get a large * or be removed.
@@hajopluess8671 no ones being let off the hook here as far as I'm concerned EVERYONE is guilty of sin....including my favorite team the Ravens to this day I still don't know why we had to put a bounty on Hines Ward but then again when I watch him on the tapes he really was a cheap shot artist they even had to change the rules because of him
Elliott Portlock agreed, but what I’m saying is they don’t deserve to be in the H.O.F. because of their very checkered past. They have been caught, cheating is cheating. In my opinion, this either leaves a nasty * on their record or eliminates their chances. Especially for Belichick.
@@hajopluess8671 well if we are going to be fair then maybe we should do the same to Bill Cowher because he admitted that everyone ,including his team the Steelers, was stealing signals like the Patriots were back then so I don't know that's just how I feel about that whole Spygate situation I mean by no means do I justify what Belichick was doing but he shouldn't be the only one punished for crimes that other coaches have committed in the past
Rob is ignoring other facts just because they didn't get caught but is holding on to deflategate. Also bellichick was the one who got suspended for a whole season and fined. 🤨
Glad to be a patriot fan I enjoy the jeliously
Got dammit. Joe said they cheated. Niner nation. 😔😔😩😩
Anyone remember jerry rice admitting to using stickem?
I think we rob a have obsession of downgrading tom brady no matter what hahahahaha feel sorry for him at this point
TOM BRADY IS THE GOAT NO DOUBT.......ROB PARKER SHUT UP......
He's a cheater.
Breaking News: to all the sports teams and individual players out there, don't worry about all the CHEATING and RULE BREAKING stuff, as long as you win, we won't criticize you, instead, we'll just talk about all the records you brake and how amazing you are 👏 👏
At least we do for the 49ers
I honestly don't think that last incident was intentional cheating considering that there's no evidence that Bill Belicheck ordered that to happen that way, it just seemed to me to be a misunderstanding by the videographers on what they could and couldn't film....I mean, they did allow the camera men up there BUT even as a long time fan who's had to eat a lot of crow over the years, I won't argue that the cheating has tainted their legacy. I do still think Bill is the GOAT coach. I do still think that Brady is one of the greatest QBs ever but there's certainly an asterisk next to their accomplishments but I won't go as far as to say that neither of them are as talented as we think.
Chris, Lebron James' name was on the Biogenesis lab ledger IN 2013...ALLEGEDLY 😂😂😂
Ight brotha, peace.
Allegedly chronicles of judah
@@wu-tangwizard9993 😂😂😂
im not gonna let these very vague rulings of how new england of "cheated" bc they did way more to the game football schematically and team philosophy wise than any other organization and you would notice that if you're a student of the game
I'm no Pats fan but Chris is right. Rob is being inconsistent with what cheating he cares about.. btw Bonds should absolutely be in the HoF
Why is Pete Rose banned when guys are using cheat codes, mustve had commiss daughter on the dial
Or he won a few bets too many against the commish lol
@@vincegonzalez6804 hahaha
He is banned because that is the agreement he made to keep all the details of the leagues investigation secret.
@@craigjohnston5781 hof guys take steroids and you talking about cheating shut up
Belicheat should be BANNED FROM H.O.F.
Lawrence Taylor, Michael Irvin, Terrell Owens and Peyton Manning (strange I know) were crack addicts and drug users, Ray Lewis, OJ Simpson, and Marvin Harrison are alleged murderers, and again Peyton Manning was accused of rape by his personal trainer at college do they deserve to banned from the H.O.F? Answer me honestly? Cheating is bad but it's not as bad as some of these other crimes that have been committed by H.O.F Players and Coaches...
@@ravens52raylewis87 Those are (alleged) crimes outside of the game, what does that have to do with cheating the game????
@@tonylove6682 all I'm saying is if we're going to ban Bill Belichick from the H.O.F for cheating then we might as well ban the other coaches in the past who have cheated like Bill Cowher who said that the Steelers were doing pretty much the same thing that Belichick was with the Spygate thing and you might as well shove Bill Walsh in there for sabotaging the headsets of the Giants coaching personnel
@@ravens52raylewis87 didnt belichek take the wife of one of his assistant coaches....
I guess the zodiac killer is not a murder because he never got caught
Oh, it's just Rob again.
and WE are here for it
Rob is Right!!!!
Cheating is very prevalent in sports. it doesnt excuse it, but the only way to uniformly identify and measure cheaters is whether you got caught by rules at the time. Bonds never failed an MLB drug test. Sure his Dr.s office was busted. but unless you investigate every other players Dr, you cant apply the same standard to everyone. Tom Brady and the patriots were caught cheating multiple times. The track athletes failed tests. Lance armstrong passed every test. Thats the difference... one failed the tests (and i agree the bar isn't high, but at least its uniformly applied) the others did not.
I agree with Rob 💯.....
I 1000% agree with rob
Clown
Rob is a straight up cornball brotha and he's completely biased towards players he likes. Especially when it comes to aaron rodgers even to this day.
I totally agree with Rob. Someone created on me in a card game called Spades back when I was a little boy and everytime I see this dude I look at him funny and as a CHEATER and that was over 30 years ago.
Cheated, sorry
Duke Banks So if someone cheated you in a game of cards then told you a few weeks later they cheated how would you look at them
@@bezogib I would also look at them as a cheater, however, more of my focus would be on the person I caught than the person who admitted they cheated some where down the line. Chris's deflecting started with him throwing Joe into the conversation instead, of keeping the focus on the Patriots.
This show is always heated ......
What about wide recivers using stickem
That was when it was legal.
@@boogeymansportsAnd yet rob still talks about the tuck rule which was a rule back then.
Rob tripping no cap
Rob is so damn biased bruh smh. Hes never objective when it comes to Brady or Rodgers.
TexasTea 346
bro Brady is a damn cheater. The media gives him the pass they never give to Barry Bonds.
@@percybedford6266 Listen I'm not going to sit here and say that Brady is perfect or anything like because I know he's not he has his own flaws like everyone else does and everything like that like that but you keep bringing up the bogus cheating when since 2015 which was Deflategate Tom Brady has had quite the bit of success including:
3 Super Bowl Championships
2 Super Bowl MVPs
1 NFL MVP to his name
2 All Pro Selections
4 Pro Bowl Selections
Led the NFL in yards once and
touchdowns as well
He's 47-13
125 TDS- 28 INTS
Tom Brady does not need deflated footballs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics. Otherwise his statistics would have dropped a significant amount because the NFL had control of every single football after Deflategate. The same goes for Bill Belichick and I don't really think I need to go into all the success he's had since Spygate he was winning way before Spygate even happened you really think that the greatest coach for the past 20 years needs a silly camera to take you down? They don't need deflated footballs and cameras like Jerry Rice doesn't need stickum, Joe Montana doesn't need to spray silicone on his jersey , and Von Miller doesn't need PEDs to win, to beat your team, or to put up great statistics I'm not trying to say that the cheating is justified but honestly does it really matter with Brady if it didn't matter for all those other athletes? I'm just trying to be real here for a second or two no disrespect to you.
The 49er won 4 Super Bowl Championships and cheated too did but we have never EVER said they needed to be stripped of those titles? If you want to sit there and be biased against one successful team for cheating while simultaneously ignoring that other successful teams in the past have cheated you are the very definition of Hypocrite
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@@ravens52raylewis87
You are right - the sport is corrupt!
However you have to admit that there are different levels of cheating. Trying to get a physical advantage by cheating is wrong but spygate is on another level.
If we are being real, we know that loads of NFL players across all the teams take PED's. We can tell the NFL is ok with PED use because their penalties for being caught are not sufficient to be a deterrent. Silicone, stikum is in this vain.
Knowing what the opposing team is going to do before they do is the perhaps just below bribing the refs when it comes to your attitude to the game. The Patriots are like East Germany back in the day who doped all their athletes ie at the national level.
What's even worse is the Patriots got caught and it didn't change their behaviour.
RBOAT - R o b P a r k e r ...!" Montana admitted they cheated tho, Jerry Stick'Em Rice. HeadSet-Gate, etc.
Rob was right ! Everyone let the Pats off the hook for some reason
Rob said absolute nonsense and couldn’t even respond to what Chris said because the flaw in his logic is so egregious.
The idea that cheating is only wrong if you get caught is ABSURD. If someone admits to cheating but never got caught it was just as wrong as the people that got caught.
You’re basically saying being GOOD at cheating makes cheating okay.
@@rickyrobby8133 You said "If someone admits to cheating but never got caught it was just as wrong as the people that got caught"
so in other words Brady and Belichick are unworthy of being GOATs because they got caught cheating! You just made Rob's point
@@ForeverFootball3 what…? That’s a wildly disconnected leap in logic. I said cheating is wrong, I didn’t say anything about it invalidating your goat status.
I hate the Patriots but they are and have been a great franchise, but the obsession Rob has is out of control
QUESTION? O.J Simpson was found not guilty so why don't you bring him on your show....he didn't get caught so he didn't murder anyone......so get him on your show let's hear his nfl picks for the 2020 season.....and his opinion of who the goat is...
In every sport there are teams (most of the ones that win) that will do anything to win, including questionable things. The exact same things are going on in the MLB and performance enhancing drugs are used to the extreme in endurance sports. Rob said that you still need hand eye coordination to hit it out of the park so juicing isn't that bad in the case of Barry Bonds (paraphrasing) but you could make the same rationalizations about any kind of cheating. Patriots taped other teams, but they still had to go out there and make those plays and win those games. Did all the players know? We don't know. Rob hates the Patriots beyond reason, as though they harmed his family in some way or wronged him personally. He needs to cool it. If you're going to hate on anyone, hate on the NFL for allowing these things to happen and basically looking the other way for years. Blame the MLB for doing very little to discourage cheating and not stripping the Astros or Red Sox of their titles. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
what Rob also mentions is that barry bonds was never failed an MLB test. Did he do steroids, almost definitely, but there is no hard proof. The patriots were caught. The Astros were caught. The NFL found that there was proof. Or in deflategate an indepedent lawyer said "more likely than not" which was the burden of proof they were asked to evaluate. Brady himself was punished not for deflating the balls, but for destroying the phones with the evidence.
Barry Bonds was never caught cheating or failed a drug test like those other guys on that list. They just want Bonds because he has the most prestigious record in baseball
Bonds handed out the PEDs to other players.
That Grayson caller was very cringe
Rob Parker need to get off tv
All teams have history of cheating. Loolk it up. But Parker will never say that but I'm sure he knows it.
Could you imagine if a black coach cheated this much, he would get no respect, whitey does it, he's the G.O.A.T. HE SHOULD'VE BEEN KICKED OUT THE LEAGUE 15 YEARS AGO!
facts
"He has a dark history..."
You know you can't really say that because Sean Payton was suspended for a year for being apart of Bountygate and he's a white guys so I'm just saying you know Mike Tomlin tripped someone during a Steelers game but was he ever suspended as a result? Let's be real for a minute before bringing race into the conversation when its obvious that the NFL doesn't care what color you are when it comes to punishments by suspensions, fines, and stripping teams of draft picks....
He isn't black, he is white. Why do people have to bring race into everything, get over it
Yeah like they really needed to cheat to win multiple super bowls. Stop it!
Rob Parker is like Gomer Pyle: "Citizen's Arrest! Citizen's Arrest!" Rob is a lone insane voice in the wilderness who lives off honey and wild locus. He is a bitter, pathetic little man, hell-bent on destroying the character of a decent person in Tom Brady.
Rob is being ridiculous how can you exonerate Barry Bonds but not Tom Brady. Bonds cheating was way worse and ruined the sport of baseball that he loves so much. Brady cheated too but if he took steroids he would have even more rings. Bonds is def not the GOAT wasn't even the best player in his era, Ken Griffey was better and he did it the right way
Putting silicone on your jersey is nothing compared to taping signals......and Montana never said HE did it.
Neither did brady but bellichick knew the rules about sideline taping.