The Right Safe for Gold and Silver - My Recommendations
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- Looking for the right safe for your gold and silver? Looking for a home safe for your precious metals? I have some recommendations for home safes, office safes, fire and burglary safes and TL-rated safes. Check the links below to play along.
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Thank you!
I think small well hidden caches might be more effective for some people, especially considering how little space gold takes up. The main risk is losing track of them.
A tip for apartment living on the second floor or people with lighter safe in general.
If on the second floor and cant go too heavy or bolt to the floor, use a hardened steel plate that is bigger than your door frame and bolt your safe to that. Carriage bolts going up from the bottom and secured from the inside. The bolt head is round on the bottom so they cant be removed without cutting. This works anywhere a safe is kept behind a door, not just apartments
Smart.
And then put a Eufy security camera on that safe and all around your house and property that way if someone does break in even if you are not home, you’ll know about it and can call the authorities and/or neighbors
Fort Knox 7241 (means it’s 72 inches high by 41 inches wide). Weighs 2200 lbs. costs over $10,000. Considering what it stores…worth it. And it’s a beautiful piece, custom paint and gold leaf. It’s gorgeous.
I feel that with a $4500 safe I need to be protecting the safe more than what's inside 😂
Ha! 😅
I look at my safe and think, "some day i'm gonna fill you up" $3200 solid steel Sturdy co. safe with less then that in gun and ammo. but the family birth certificates are safe.
Lol 😆 🤣 😂
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Excellent and helpful video for sure, I may end up with this safe as it seems practical and a good value.
Curious, what does 2 is 1 mean?
PS: Glad you like JM Bullion, they were my first online bullion dealer. I've been stacking now for a year and have purchased from several other online dealers as deals pop up, and to survey the good and the bad. My worst experience as far as coin condition goes would be with SD Bullion. Low prices, and even lower quality condition along with lower quality customer service. You being into buying gold for 15 yrs tells me the chances are good that I'm not telling you anything that you may already know.
Keep bringing us your perspective as I really appreciate it! 🤘😁🤘 CHEERS!
Also where you put (hide) the safe makes a huge difference.
Building a fake wall/ or small room that just looks like a wall. Is great as well.
Thank you so much!!! Always appreciate your content.
Thanks! Have a good weekend!
Interesting that you talk about this now. I've been looking at safe options because I've outgrown my old one. I guess it's time to go looking locally and see what I can easily find in my area. Thanks!
Good luck!
Good problem to have, huh ? lol
@@SilverBull30 It's not one you'll ever hear me complain about!😄
I also recommend the Hollon line. Made in USA and good fire and secure ratings. I like the old style dial entry. And you’re right they are a pain to move.
Yeah, combinations are great for a few reasons. Cheers!
Something often overlooked is will your safe and its contents survive the location you store it in a disaster? If it's in your bedroom that is above a basement, will it survive the fall when the bedroom floor fails during a fire? If its in your basement with it survive a flood? Not all flooded basements come from nature. I've seen basements have a couple feet of water in them from the fire department trying to put out or contain the fire.
Thats why my safe is on a concrete floor the same level as outside, it'll never flood in that spot and my safe won't have to survive fall damage in a fire.
Wow, I'd love to hear more about the bottom of the lake issue. Never heard you speak of that before. Love your videos, Thank You for sharing your insight!!!
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Most people who stack will experience a boating accident sometimes in their lives. 😆
I would like hear that too.
This information is very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing. Great subject! This continues to be something that I ponder…
Thanks - have a good weekend!
@@2is1gold Thanks! You as well!
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience in this video!
Thanks for watching!
In my mind, security IS a BIG issue when it comes to protecting your valuables and it's a shame that people like 2 is1 can't upload an informative video like this without having a bunch of children make ridiculous comments without even knowing what they are talking about. 2 is 1, this was/is a great video, thanks for posting it, it should be viewed by anyone interested in keeping their metals SAFE. Getting a quality safe like this coupled with a good security/surveillance system, and you will sleep like a baby while away from home!😏
Right! It's not like all that information is online already.
Great video! I'll have to rethink my next safe purchase. I was looking at a Hollon HS-310E but may have to expand my budget.
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Good info video. Some keep PMs in their gun safe. It's wise to bolt safe to floor or wall. Cheaper safes have thinner gauge sheet metal and less fire resistant time. Thin gauge safes can be broken into with long pry bar but it takes some time to bend the metal to open. l have a safe and also security cameras, door/window sensors which I think are good to have. A few security cameras don't cost a lot, self install is cheaper or pay to have them installed.
Nesting doll scenario works quite well; a smaller safe for the PMs inside the bigger safe which is anchored to the slab that houses instruments of destruction. Not going to knock other options such as single, heavy, bolted down units in inconspicuous locations as each person's situation is unique. Don't believe there's a wrong way to go about it as most everyone is defending against the neighborhood's opportunistic vermin.
One thing we heard was the electronic key pads can be swapped from safe to safe providing they are of the same manufacturer. Not sure how true that is but it was interesting.
Cheers!
I have safe by a company called sturdy safe that I bought about 3 years ago. It was the thickest steel I could buy for the money and they do a fantastic job. They can build you basically whatever you want. 🤠
Sounds great. Cheers!
I got a sturdy about one year ago. delivered on time, no damage. bolt down install and got a few cool custom items. that thick steel needs a torch or plasma cutter. sad cause all I got in it is a few guns. can we all chant $1500 gold oz. I could buy one.
Big fan of your videos.
To note, you correctly stated the most looted areas intruders go - master bedroom/master closet, and home office.
The least likely place is the pantry. Nobody wants to steal catfood. Fwiw.
Bottom of the bag of cat food it is! 😅
Thinking about these days and a pantry, I'm sure that some burglars would be happy to
cart off 200-300 lbs. of people food. They might just hit the freezer while they are at it.
Cat burglar might swipe the cat food tho 😝
Smart, but tell an heir so when u die, they don’t throw out “ expired food”! Lol
@@Sherry-tb9xz Just leave everything to the cat!!
Thanks for another great video! I'm just getting into stacking, only have a couple grand in bullion so far, so simply hiding it is the most logical method for me at the moment. Can't wait til my nest egg warrants investing in a prime safe like this.
Stay safe, brother.
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We did an AMSEC BFII for your safe, mostly for gun. I have recently purchased some gold/silver that will go into it as well
Great Video! Super informative and PRACICAL. Thank You. Preciuos metals certianly justifies the cost of protection but the bonus is that these things (safes) hold so many other valuable, estate documents, passports, personal and private records, etc., etc., etc.. I am a believer that everyone should have safe staorge option available to them . It also aids in simply knowing where items are on that day you need to get to them... : ) Oh Honey, which draw did I put that in....
Absolutely. This was a long video already, but the interior organization is easy to nerd out on too. I have organizers, trays and fireproof bags and cases in my safes. I know right where passports are, I know right where birth certificates and hard copies of appraisals and wills are. I feel a lot better keeping all of that lined up and laid out in a heavy duty safe. Cheers!
Very informative video. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I love nerding out on safes. I don't really know much about Gardall, but I agree with Hollon and AmSec as well as Ft Knox as quality safes. Have never seen a Graffunder but apparently their build tolerances are amazingly tight. The only thing I would add is if a person is looking for a good deal on a TL rated safe, there are some bargains to be had in the used safe domain. Oh, and the "Office Space" reference reminded me of the scene where Michael Bolton was printing something and it gave him the PC Load Letter error and he started swearing at it... so many gems in that movie.
That whole movie is gold.
Lol ! PC Load letter!!! Yeah, that movie is gold for sure. I still watch it from time to time. I think it's still free on RUclips right now.
@@Freeeeeeeedoooooooom yea, that line totally resonated the first time I saw it as I was having my soul slowly drained by the bureaucracy succubus. Before "FIRE" was a term I put myself into artificial poverty by purchasing some land and saving a lot. I forgot the names of half the people in my office a week after I retired, they were literally drones to me.
I don’t even need to watch before I comment, always excellent content, respect & love
Thanks, Don. Have a good weekend!
Solid advice, well said friend.
Thanks!
I feel like safes are one of those purchases you do a lot of research for and then commit to one, but it's difficult to have experience with many so you're going to defend whatever you purchased. With that said, I tinkered with a bunch in person and after a lot of research went with a Liberty Safe and have loved it for years.
You definitely get committed to a safe once they’re installed. They’re too heavy to break up with. Reminds me of a problem a college roommate had once. 😄
@@2is1gold 😂
Or buy used and focus on the cheapest safe you can find that is tl-15 or above. There’s not much research you can do as a consumer that will give you more insight than the official rating. Beware of safes that have no rating. It’s not just about the thickness of steel. Safes can have design vulnerabilities in the hinges, bars, and the linkages that interact with the lock. A poor design can enable dial punch attacks and such. The rating agency is allowed to review the design of the safe to devise their plan of attack. It’s not just a bunch of guys with drills, saws, and sledgehammers.
@@2is1gold Was she gold, silver or bronze? Cos she definitely wasn't tin 😂
Still feeling good about your Liberty Safe after the recent news?
Great video. Interesting to read the various comments.
The comments always make these videos more helpful.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
You are hilarious... those little side comments! Thanks for the video... very helpful!
Thank you!
Amsec TL 15 or TL30 are the way to go. With stairs and 4 guys at 850+ pounds are no joke to install.
Yessir! Suck to install, but they are there to stay once they're in!
I’ve heard TL-30 (maybe 15 too) can be insured by homeowners insurance since that’s the same security used by jewelry stores, etc.
Proud to keep my precious metals in a fireproof safe...more valuable bigger size pieces in a fireproof lockbox in said safe. But better to have as I've said in the past. More than one location. Detachable garage...sister and brother in laws house. If so called"bad guy" wants the contents 1 movie title comes to mind. "Death Wish" great insight Dr. Gold have a WONDERFUL extra long weekend!!!
Yeah, have a good weekend!!
I have thought about putting a Burgwatcher royal cashbox inside of a safe something like you have there maybe. I figured I could make a special mounting plate that I could mount the cashbox to and drill a hole in that plate so I could utilize the bolt holes 🕳️ in the safe itself to secure the plate to the safe. I also thought about buying a big stealth safe or maybe an Am Sec. BWB cashiers safe and putting my cheap Sentury safe inside of it. The Sentury safe has an hour fire rating and I believe the stealth safe has a fire rating as well however the AM.SEC. BWB cash safe does not have any fire rating at all.I believe you can also buy special bags that give the fire proof ratings for an hour or two as well for extra sensitive extra important documents.
You could always fool the burglars by buying a second more impressive looking safe and keeping it completely empty. That way, they spend all their time trying to steal the distraction safe 😂.
That's actually not a bad idea. Just buy a cheap Made-in-China RSC gun "safe" (really just an oversized file cabinet) from one of the big box retailers and leave it in plain sight.
I have been in the market for a decent safe for some coins and some other things you have made my mind up I have had my eye on that certain one that you have in the video that's the 1 I'm gonna get thank you
Excellent 👍 video
Also beautiful Safe storage locker 🛅
Beautiful tray 📤, Red Storage Box and Blue Storage Box
Thanks!
i use an inexpensive double-lock, fireproof safe. i also make damn sure it is anchored to the foundation of my house, and place it in an out of the way spot in my home.
Informative
Even using a safety deposit box at a bank can be utilized but keep in mind that the bank doesn't insure the contents. But you can purchase insurance at reasonable rates through a 3rd party insurer that will cover the contents. Can be cheaper than using a vault service depending on value of the contents.
One drawback to Vaults and Safe deposit boxes is that you can only access them during business hours.
Having more than one location I feel is a must.
I think it's important too. Cheers!
I currently rent so having a safe is out of the option. I do a hide in plain sight type of thing. Also, I have plans on splitting my stack and hiding it it in different spots as well as creating a few false easy targets that contain little to no value, but satisfies the burglar.
The best safe you can get for silver stacking is a really heavy secondhand one, from the 80s or 90s. People are practically giving those away, if you arrange and pay for the shipping. If you don't get it for free, you will pay no more than $100 - $1,000. $100 will buy you a 1,500 lbs safe and $800 - $1,000 will buy you a >4,500 lbs safe of the highest security rating that exist (same as used in actual banks). For added security you can disguise it as something else, for example as one of those huge disco bass speakers.
I like that micro case idea. I typically use my food saver to vacuum seal my tubes. Probably still will. I have a couple of Pelican cases in the 1200 size I use as travel humidors on long trips. They are almost 30 years old now. Great product.
I love Pelican cases.
I DO have a safe in my bedroom! A typical home safe. Contents: Old no longer used keys, some fake Krugerrands and a tiny amount of cash, silver and gold plated jewelry - just enough to make it convincible that it's all there is. Also useable in the event of a home robbery - okay then lets go open the safe! (fortunately not common in my country but there has been a few cases)
Does anybody know what level TL-15 corresponds to on the EN1143-1 scale ?
Smart.
I purchased an American Security BFX6024 Safe to put in my office, weight 751 lbs, and it will be bolted to the concrete floor. I wanted the BFX6032 but it wouldn't fit in the area I have to put it. I have a few guns, I'd feel much better getting out of the closet. Also, my favorite dog has always been the American Staffordshire Terrier, AKA Pit Bull, Guinness Stout would keep the bad guy occupied until the Ambulance showed up to stitch him back up.
Get some kangals. Forget those other dogs if you're looking for bite force
A great option for those who can't bolt a safe to the floor (rented apartments, etc.) is to simply weigh it down with lead. Lead is cheap, and very dense, and you can easily double or even triple the weight of you safe with it without taking up too much room. It also has the added benefit of concentrating the weight at the bottom, making it just that much harder to tip over.
I use copper heavy as hell not super cheap but yet another form of stacking so works for me 😂
I like copper! Would steal that! You can make knive scales and set out of copper! @@nathanhill6042
@@nathanhill6042 I just use platinum. It's not that cheap, but heavy as hell and does the trick..
Cast iron is the heaviest may need a forklift to move one
Maybe I went overboard but I bought a Liberty Presidential 50 safe a couple years ago. I needed the space for other things but my PMs live there too. It has something like a 2.5 hour fire rating and is made of 7 gauge steel. It weighs 1600 pounds so no real need to bolt it to the floor 😅
That’s great. Four guys and a hydraulic lift rig to move it in?
@@2is1gold ha you nailed it. Then the same when I re-did the floors. Cost me about $500 to move it 😓
Enjoyed the video! Also, I’ve purchased one of those mint tubes to fill as a goal of mine and when I put the few buffalos that I have in there, I noticed it was kind of forced to get them in and also out. I also noticed the edges get a little dinged. Is that something you experience?
Yes. I don't like Mint tubes for Buffalos unless they're staying in it.
I have the same safe with a mechanical dial. It's awesome and yet small enough to hide. Also, people need to have an alarm system. It's all about reducing the amount of time a burglar as to steal stuff.
I like Hollon a lot. AMSEC and Gardall are nicer, but they can cost twice as much.
@@2is1gold For sure, I ordered mine on Amazon. The price was competitive and you get 5% back if you use a Prime credit card. They had a to have a special truck and crew drop it off.
I would layer on top of monitored security alarm a good solid door/door locks and security film. 3M makes good security film but it’s damn expensive. Watch the videos on their products, the price you pay may be worth it to protect you, your family and your PM.
2:49 Sentry Safes are also very good safes. As well as the ones you mentioned.
Great video as always 2 is 1! Just out of interest what size air tite red capsule tube is in the pelican case and which pelican case is the blue one?
Thanks!
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Cheers!
great video hallon has a tl-30 mj-1814e safe for 2500 bucks. made in USA too. imho
I think the best thing most can do is buy a small lock box to contain your metal and hide it where only you and one other person know and where most would not suspect. a safe might take 15 or 30 minutes to break into vs a package that might take double that to find, if it ever gets found. if u have millions of dollars of metal/property to store, ok, but for most people with 10s or a few 100 thousand I think hiding is best.
My Vault Pro safe is a beast. Made in California. Veteran owned.
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My strategy is a heavy duty gun safe bolted to concrete (rated 60min fire) and within that safe another 1hr rated Honeywell 1114 fireproof safe where all the treasures live. This gives you significant fire resistance. There’s a great RUclips video on the Honeywell where the dude throws it into a camp fire and recovers all items in tact. Double action / double eagle 🦅
I wish bolting these things down to concrete wasn't such a pain. I have a gun safe I want to move. I'm on year 3 of procrastination. 😄
Was there by test that replicate an actual house fire? I’ve been burned on products before that had videos of them doing similar things but I learned that is nowhere near the same thing
But great idea though I’ll probably do something similar thank you !(:
@@2is1gold It's not that hard to do, especially if you have a 1/2" hammer drill. If not, you can probably rent one for a few hours
for $50 or less. These work extremely well at boring holes in concrete. Put four 1/2" x 4-inch concrete anchors through the
bottom and / or back of the safe with large washers on them and you are good to go. I did just that at our previous home
in town and with 8 grade 8 4"x1/2" bolts and anchors, that safe wasn't going anywhere without a backhoe coming through
the wall to get it.
@@jackkleinke9232, Videos like anything can be rigged, faked, skewed, etc. I would strongly recommend visiting your local fire department, they love giving unbiased help and advice! No one knows better than how long a typical fire does damage in your neighborhood and to what extent, than those who fight them on a regular basis! Luckily one of the fire hydrants in our development is very close to me!
I just have an RSC (sturdy safe), mostly for guns. That said if I were buying now I’d hit up my local safe technician, who’s moved my gun safe a few times, for a line on a used commercial TL15 or TL30, he usually has some available, and for not all that much more than retail price from some of the higher end gun safes, and often with a real UL fire rating to boot. Unfortunately he’s said smaller high end safes are almost never on the market used, people don’t sell them.
I can see why they don't go on the market. Moving them is the worst part, and you can always use another safe. Cheers!
Keeping the goods safe is obviously super important. However, those small safes are dangerous imho. Large TL-30 is my favorite. Around 3k-4k lbs empty. Concrete lag bolts keep it in place. Like you said, with the proper equipment and enough time, a pro can get in. Cameras, alarms, dogs etc all help to keep them out in the 1st place.
Stashing your loot in a frozen turkey works too 🙃
As an aside, keeping some PM’s abroad is also a good idea. Cheers
Yeah, all good ideas. I have love/hate thing with 3,000 lb safes. :)
@@2is1gold It’s a forever spot! That’s for sure. 🙃
I’ve been on to the frozen meats and birds for decades 🤣
If it’s bolted down to concrete, it really doesn’t matter if it’s 500 pounds or 5000, it aint going anywhere.
What is the maximum weight that a floor in an average house can support without reinforcing the floor?
I am from singapore. I love your content so much brother!
Hey, thank you! 🤜🤛
I’m not breaking in to crack your beautiful safe! I’m breaking in to read your Easton Press 📚leather bound collection while drinking a whisky 🥃 neat.
2 is 1 arrives home: “Oh! You must be the English Professor!” 😂
Is your Hollon safe doing well? Are there any problems with that safe we should consider before purchasing it? I work for a living and we live paycheck to paycheck I can’t afford something that needs worked on all the time. I was thinking an electronic lock safe would be convenient, so as long as they hold up well.
Very classy video.
If you are near a major metro area, check out b&m safe dealers/installers for used deals.
Thanks!
Great video
Thanks!
I really enjoy your videos. Very well put together. You seem to enjoy nicer things. If you don't mind me asking... what do you do for a living or what do you attribute your success to?
He won’t tell you. Settle in. The mystery is what keeps us coming back. 🕵🏼♀️ ❓
@@theenglishprofessor8411 He sells shotguns out of the trunk of his car. lol. He seems to be doing alright. The videos are always interesting.
I was shopping for safes the other day, I put one on my cart but haven't purchased yet, need to though
Metal “Job Box” from Home Depot with 2 recessed carbide padlocks @$500 beats any sub &3000 safe IMO put a couple 50# lead weights and a couple hundred pounds of gold (ha eventually!) in it + the 300lbs of the box itself good luck moving it.
Basement buried in fresh concrete John Wick style is probably the coolest way to store it. :-)
Anyone who says otherwise eats paste.
I am planning to go for Hollon MJ-2819C vs AMSEC CF2518. Any idea which one of TL-30 are better.
also, ammo cases work great for storage!
Agreed!
Ball's ! A Veery ,Very Big set of Ball's !!
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Love the video 📹 !
I will get there one day .
Can the safe be set to only allow opening at certain dates and time slots? So the culprits cannot use the code even when they torture it from you.
I went and got a tiger King safe. I know I know I'm never going to financially recover from this not been too bad it's big bulky, heavy. Reasonably priced
How about covering in the future security systems. Motion detectors glass breakage systems. Cameras
decoy safe is good option also. nice cheap small carry away safe. theft finds it carries away and is happy. but what did he get?
Used coloring books?
A couple contrary points- My father in law's house was broken into. He had a super cheap gun safe. Think glorified filing cabinet. The thieves worked on it with a crowbar they got from his garage. They did not breach it. And they would have been disappointed if they had, his taste in guns reflect his taste in safes. Secondly, I moved 460 pound bluestone steps BY MYSELF with a 3 foot bar and some 1/2 inch pipe.(EMT to be specific) I had no trouble positioning a 400 pound gun safe in a friends garage with a similar method. Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum to rest it on and I shall move the earth. I'm more concerned about flood and fire than robbery, so my little guy was purchased because of its ratings in those departments.
Tuesday was delivery day here = Patriot Safe TY 40- 905 lbs. bolted to garage concrete floor Bro 😎.
Nice! 💪
I’m only 20 and would like to start saving money outside of the bank for my kid incase anything happens to me or when my time comes… I don’t know much about saving in precious metals and would like to start but don’t know if I should wait to start as well
I don't know man. After watching Lock Picking Lawyer for a while, the cereal box is sounding pretty good!
He’s got serious thievery skills if he ever goes that direction!
Great video! I read you should not store Gold and Silver in the same location. Does this still apply if they are in coins in capsules like you have?
Gold is very inert so I don’t think there’s much to worry about there. One main thing for silver is to avoid PVC in the plastic. Also, if you store gold in a pvc based plastic then nearby silver might be affected. So avoid PVC period. Also, gold in physical contact with the silver might accelerate tarnishing due to galvanic effects but I’m not sure about this because gold is so inert.
Was looking at the Liberty Home premium. They call it a level 7 burglary and fire safe. Thoughts? I think it's 300-350 lbs
Can you open it if the electronic lock fails? Cuz you know, it's electronic and electronics do fail. I won't even bring up the whole EMP thing.
Office Space! Great movie.
One of the best! 😄
Never wake Board with a tube of gold buffalos. The tragedy isn’t that it happened and I lost that tube once. It is that I’ve done it 3 times. I know, you are right. I really do enjoy wake boarding.
It’s a hard lesson to learn. 😄
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If it saves a single oz it has paid for itself. Thank you for your time and effort.
Got myself a 800lbs safe for insurance reasons along with a home alarm system with direct response action. Since gun laws is effed up here, not much else i can do except having my machetes accessible😅
So, I spent about $500 on a fire resistant gun safe that weighs about 350lbs dry. Bolted her in, got a monitored home security system and a permit with the city, and when I'm home, employ the 2A. Now, I could have gone with a Liberty or something far more costly, but the truth is, you can get into all of them with one method (should that one be chosen) in about 2 -5minutes. They all simply act as another barrier to theft and buy time. The chances are slim, and with the home security system, I'm thinking I'm probably good to go.
“Good enough” is going to be a personal call. I think the home security is probably more important too, but a TL-rated safe is a much different level of tool or mobility deterrence.
@@2is1gold It is TL-rated. But, that still only gives us a small amount of security. 2-5 minutes (done the right way) and we're screwed Man. They're in. At that point it's the game of do I or the cops get there first? They better hope the cops do ha ha.
@@elitefitness341don’t think you understood what he said. He’s referring to TL-15 rated safes and above. There’s a difference between UL-rated and TL-rated. Those are a whole different type of beast when it comes to safes. You can’t get a TL rated safe for under $1500 and they weigh 500 pounds minimum for a safe smaller than your microwave. It’s no small amount of security. The doors start with 2 inches of plate steel, at minimum.
@@SergiuM42 You are correct. But I know exactly what he's saying. What I meant is, is that if one knows how, you can penetrate a safe with a few options of specific tools easily picked up at many stores. Of course, I'm not going to say what they are for obvious reasons. TL is great, but it's not what many people think it is was my point. It takes minutes to get into pretty much any safe and that is the unfortunate reality. Luckily most thieves can't even penetrate any safe efficiently with even a crow bar. Which is not even a good option to be honest.
i bought this 5 years ago. Weighs 90 pounds. Suits me alright and gets the job done. Amazon Basics Fire Resistant Security Safe with Programmable Electronic Keypad - 2.1 Cubic Feet, 16.93 x 25.98 x 13.8 inches
How much does it cost?
@@davidhimmelfahrt3732 $260.89
problem with valuables in that, theft can just carry away open later. or since walls are thin a small carry grinder will cut 14 gauge steel .07 inches in short order. same with box store $2k gun safes, composite door is really thin metal with concrete or something in between and is easy to cut open. you want .25 inch or more of SOLID steel if you gonna use it for anything worth $.
@@ChainsawKLOBYK tbh, i don't store my PM and valuables onsite at my home. this one i just use for my junk silver bag that i like to play with and some petty cash on hand. If it were to get stolen it would suck, but it wouldn't devastate me.
@@MilqueMoney that's affordable.
I own a very old cary safe from 1890, changed the locking system for a new one! Weight 1000lbs 😂
Very cool.
Kumahira tl30 tipping the scales at 5000 yup 5 thousand lbs ,along with 4 other antique safes who know what's a decoy heat.vibration,motion sensors spend a few bucks and feel better
I want a smaller antique safe classy
Just curios as to why you didn't go with a TL safe? Spending the extra $1000-$1500 would be safe insurance for the amount of gold that you have. I'm trying to decide between the two myself. I'm leaning towards the TL safe but would love to hear your thoughts. Great video as always!!!!
My primary is a TL-rated safe from one of the other brands. It cost around $2,500 at the time and required pros to move it in. I was looking recently and saw the same safe more or less for nearly $4,000. So, the counterpoints to the much heavier TL safes is cost and convenience. I'd do it again, but I really like the RSC or fire & burglary safes if I can afford to lose what's inside it. Cheers!
@@2is1gold is there a service where the installers wear blindfolds while lugging it in?
Mostly kidding, but any worries about showing the installers your safe spot?
What’s your thought on gold bars? I see you only have coins. Is there a con to having bars versus coins?
the best is to have a lock box in plan site and have ur metal store all around the house IN plain site thats just make sure its plan site that trades man cant get to. rule of 6 if possible have 6 lair of protection to get access to that metal is the best way to store it.
That doesn’t protect against fire though.
I had a boating accident too. Kinda surprised people can get boat insurance.
The whole point is to offset the costs of even trying if a bulglar comes across your big safe they won't be able to move it and they don't know what's in it either would it be worth getting professionals in or comming back later when plenty of people leave their doors open and leave valuables laying around ? Probably not
given recent events, are any of these companies in close cooperation with certain branches of law enforcement, the way certain safe companies are?
Can I fit a monster box and 3 100z bars in this safe?
Hey John here from Australia, like your show.
The coin tubes i see, what brand are they , where do you purchase and cost
The square tubes with the green, red, orange and baby blue tops are all from the US Mint and they’re very specific to US coins. The others are Air-Tite. I need to find something for my Perth Mint capsules.
eBay has a wonderful selection of tubes and everything cheap
Vouch for Hollon
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