I don’t think Kim was judging Harry for his interest on the balcony, I think he was just a little amused at how mystified Harry seemed about his bisexual awakening.
@@rodrigonoffs1369 you might interpret it as Kim finding it amusing or cute or simply funny but the joke is that a character with amnesia forgot that gay people exist. That's literally the joke. But there surely was no "awakening" lol, it ain't that deep.
If I remember correctly, if you had the cryptid conversation when Kim is around, the game tells you that he just pretends to hate the topic but deep down he's actually really interested in it.
It is not that the game encourages you to be a detective. You can solve the case with absolutely shit int skills. It is more about the experience. You chose the "emotional cop" and while you are bad at logic, you have had an easier time with many other parts of the game without realizing. I think this is because the checks you fail are more memorable than the ones you pass. Personally, I think Disco Elysium is one of those games that begs to be played at least a second time, although given how long your series has been, I understand why you wouldn't want to do that.
There is something you can say to Joyce now that Kim isn’t here that will create a really good and funny moment. You have to talk to her about Everart and repeat a certain phrase to her. Also, Kim doesn’t disapprove of your interest in the Smoker on the Balcony. He thinks it’s adorable.
“Almost throwing up”!? My Harry threw up three (!) times before he could finally compress his shit together and even inspect the body visually! You lucky son of a gun… 😆
I didn't get that Inland Empire passive when Lena is telling her story, and holy shit. Harry and Lena both came into contact with something they see as out-of-this-world, and then spend the rest of their lives reaching out for it. Harry can never get it back, and Lena lost her mobility to reach. Harry then impresses on Lena's tale, seeing her quest as his own.
lack of high intelligence leads to you not getting an encyclopedia checks, and encyclopedia popping up every 10 seconds to tell you more about this magnificent world is one of the best things about it. jamais vu.
You should know that when you ask about a second cryptid, breaking your promise to Kim, he goes: "Wait, you said ONE" If you insist anyways, he goes: "... okay, fuck it, more cryptids." He has a more relaxed side to him beneath his professionalism. Kim off the clock at a bar drinking, would be very different to what we see in the game.
I've been working on my own game inspired by Disco Elysium, focused on a character's personal/social/emotional growth and involving internal voices kind of like the skills in DE. Your playthrough has been helpful for thinking about what those voices mean psychologically. The discussion of narrative psychology today is also useful. So thank you, I'm continuing to watch eagerly!
the intellect build is the first choice on the select screen for a reason, but they also give you an immediate choice of three different default builds for a reason.
There is certainly no Developer-'encouraged' way to play Disco Elysium in terms of stat build. If it were not, there would not be volumes worth of comedic dialogue acknowledging your failures while also opening alternate paths to advancement. There is a reason you can stack a ridiculous number of bonuses to things like the Authority and Rhetoric checks with Titus that 'advance' the case itself.
My thoughts exactly: “why is Brady, after introduced to the most strange world of Elysium where Pale literally dissolves continents, is so sceptical about phasmids?” And like a minute later he narrates it himself =)
It is interesting that you always mention the intelligence skills as the "true detective" skills. But really, all the skill are important for advancing the case.
loved the ep :) during my playthrough I was surprised the whole cryptozoologist sidequest turned out to be so emotional. something i thought of while you talked about childhood memories was that morell must've been one of the few people that took her story seriously and fully believed her to the extent of dedicating all of this time trying to find it. there was probably other people who believed her but to have someone like morell in her life must've been a huge validation! excited for the smoker on the balcony conversation and for the new characters in store!
What I find intriguing is that the "real detective" is not the one who solves crime by relating and talking with the people. It's the Sherlock style one that visualizes the crime and solves with raw intellect not emotional connection. No judgements, I fall into this as well but I can't un- notice it now.
Honestly this weird sort of play through has been interesting because when you didn’t discover the bullet early in the game I was curious how things would play out and am surprised that it even came up at this point.
I have no idea if it's intentional or not, but Lena's cryptozoology gives me the same feeling as religious people in real life. You can be 99% sure what they believe is nonsense, but it does have a lot of emotional significance to them, which gives me certain respect for it.
The number of times I messaged my friend who had played this already with my theory of who did it, how and why, only to play for another hour and have to message them again "Yeah, that's clearly wrong and now I have no idea what's going on again."... was large.
I kind of wished when you were talking to Morell that Kim would be around when you asked Lena about the rest of the cryptids, because Kim is just as openly skeptical as you were being, making the exact same comments like "ah yes, what a coincidence that no one is ever able to get pictures of these cryptids." LOL
Things like the pale are weird, but in-world they're common knowledge. No one is on the backfoot about the pale, casting hope about its existence while acknowledging the shortage of evidence I feel one could draw a parallel between Lena/Morell's experiences and the theories spouted by Measurehead or worldview of Gary (the "crypto" prefix maybe isn't so much a joke as a descriptor of certain bodies of fringe ideas passionately adhered to in some corners). The difference is Lena and Morell are fixated on a far more tangible question about reality and zoology but the psychological origins of those beliefs may not be dissimilar to more prominently noxious ones of other characters. It's possible to find an unfortunate branch of dialogue with Lena that hints at how, even while well-meaning and sweet, she and Morell get along with Gary. Or maybe how he influences them.
Swapping clothes is very common. There is a reason why you are allowed to quit most interactions and resume them. There is a good chance that you will forget that you swapped your clothes and you will then stumble into stuff you have missed previously because you couldn't pass passive checks (have X in Y stat). Plus some clothes have very funny descriptions and reasoning why they affect the stats they affect. You can justify it, if you need to, by saying that Harrier is able to recall his past better in certain clothes, and that past experience helps him with his current task
since your build was not logic focused, the game shows less of the detective side of the game that much until you spec into some of the skills related to it. But since you specced into the psy skills you got a whole different outlook on the game, and indeed you can solve the case without the need to focus on any of the trees if you wanted to. It merely leads you on different ways of experiencing the game and you progress differently potentially. I'd definetely encourage a rerun or perhaps doing one on your own time after you finish your playthrough :p
The game does really encourage you more to be a detective. The stats you choose give you a different experience, but you end up there. If you take a lot of the "blue" stats, it becomes more of a detective game, sure. But that doesn't mean that red/yellow is any less important for an officer of the law. Especially the streets that Harry decides to police. More playthrough is a lot more visceral, than the calculated mind. It fits who Harry was or maybe still is, on some level.
I'm not sure whether to interpret their relationship as "Morrell feels like he has to find the phasmid, to validate his wife's encounter with a cryptid" or "Lena feels like she has to define herself by her encounter with a cryptid, because she's afraid her husband will leave her for someone younger, prettier, and more able-bodied if she doesn't match his enthusiasm" Would Lena believe so strongly in cryptids, and remember so firmly her sighting, if she didn't (kind of) think her marriage was at stake? That it's the main reason Morrell stuck by her? Also, is Gary their unicorn? Or their bull, or something? I can't think of any innocent reason they know this guy
Nah they just like each other. There's nothing else to it regarding the cryptids, just one of many things to share and connect with. Why wouldn't they know Gary? They've both traveled a lot in their life and come across all sorts of people. Gary can't be the one of the worst if he's still around. Thinking my own life, it would have been miserable if I didn't meet people like him every once in a while and lived in some weird thought bubble never engaging with people who seem different.
Kim's reaction to your interaction with the Smoker on the Balcony isn't disapproval, but rather barely concealed amusement.
Kim be like: “this guy’s gaydar is broken”
I don’t think Kim was judging Harry for his interest on the balcony, I think he was just a little amused at how mystified Harry seemed about his bisexual awakening.
I think he found it cute in a way
He's laughing because you don't know what gay people are lol
@@emersonpage5384 Exactly. People always want to create their own head canon for a simple joke lol.
@@Pir-o this id called interpretation, i interpreted that laugh as him finding it cute
@@rodrigonoffs1369 you might interpret it as Kim finding it amusing or cute or simply funny but the joke is that a character with amnesia forgot that gay people exist. That's literally the joke. But there surely was no "awakening" lol, it ain't that deep.
For the second time, the detective interacts with the pinball machines... and Kim is absent. Again :(
If I remember correctly, if you had the cryptid conversation when Kim is around, the game tells you that he just pretends to hate the topic but deep down he's actually really interested in it.
It is not that the game encourages you to be a detective. You can solve the case with absolutely shit int skills. It is more about the experience. You chose the "emotional cop" and while you are bad at logic, you have had an easier time with many other parts of the game without realizing. I think this is because the checks you fail are more memorable than the ones you pass. Personally, I think Disco Elysium is one of those games that begs to be played at least a second time, although given how long your series has been, I understand why you wouldn't want to do that.
There is something you can say to Joyce now that Kim isn’t here that will create a really good and funny moment. You have to talk to her about Everart and repeat a certain phrase to her.
Also, Kim doesn’t disapprove of your interest in the Smoker on the Balcony. He thinks it’s adorable.
Oh Kim is definitely not disapproving lol. You just don’t have the full picture yet.
if you gather enough real, you can buy the suzerain board game and play it with Kim!
“Almost throwing up”!? My Harry threw up three (!) times before he could finally compress his shit together and even inspect the body visually! You lucky son of a gun… 😆
Im so glad Lena is an optimist and doesnt say stuff like "the government doesnt want you to know about invisible birds"
Sadly she is a rascist tho 😢
You should take lilienne on a date now that kim is not with you, its a really good interaction
Yesss
How to get Brady invested in a matter:
Involve Lena
Or Frittte girl😂
As a reminder, you can try to go on a "date" with the single mom on the other side of the river. It's completely wholesome.
I didn't get that Inland Empire passive when Lena is telling her story, and holy shit. Harry and Lena both came into contact with something they see as out-of-this-world, and then spend the rest of their lives reaching out for it. Harry can never get it back, and Lena lost her mobility to reach. Harry then impresses on Lena's tale, seeing her quest as his own.
lack of high intelligence leads to you not getting an encyclopedia checks, and encyclopedia popping up every 10 seconds to tell you more about this magnificent world is one of the best things about it. jamais vu.
Lena, Frite girl, the girl making rpg dice and Kim are my ride or die from this game
You forgot to mention Gary the cryptofascist
@@lautaroescarlon7501 Nobody would mention Gary.
Hey Brady! You still owe us your take on how gestalt therapy could have helped Klasje.
Ah right! Thanks for the reminder, I'll start with it next episode
You should know that when you ask about a second cryptid, breaking your promise to Kim, he goes:
"Wait, you said ONE"
If you insist anyways, he goes:
"... okay, fuck it, more cryptids."
He has a more relaxed side to him beneath his professionalism. Kim off the clock at a bar drinking, would be very different to what we see in the game.
I've been working on my own game inspired by Disco Elysium, focused on a character's personal/social/emotional growth and involving internal voices kind of like the skills in DE. Your playthrough has been helpful for thinking about what those voices mean psychologically. The discussion of narrative psychology today is also useful. So thank you, I'm continuing to watch eagerly!
the intellect build is the first choice on the select screen for a reason, but they also give you an immediate choice of three different default builds for a reason.
There is certainly no Developer-'encouraged' way to play Disco Elysium in terms of stat build. If it were not, there would not be volumes worth of comedic dialogue acknowledging your failures while also opening alternate paths to advancement. There is a reason you can stack a ridiculous number of bonuses to things like the Authority and Rhetoric checks with Titus that 'advance' the case itself.
My thoughts exactly: “why is Brady, after introduced to the most strange world of Elysium where Pale literally dissolves continents, is so sceptical about phasmids?” And like a minute later he narrates it himself =)
a vast soul, you say
It is interesting that you always mention the intelligence skills as the "true detective" skills. But really, all the skill are important for advancing the case.
loved the ep :) during my playthrough I was surprised the whole cryptozoologist sidequest turned out to be so emotional. something i thought of while you talked about childhood memories was that morell must've been one of the few people that took her story seriously and fully believed her to the extent of dedicating all of this time trying to find it. there was probably other people who believed her but to have someone like morell in her life must've been a huge validation! excited for the smoker on the balcony conversation and for the new characters in store!
you just can’t make a bad Lena character, it’s just not possible
What I find intriguing is that the "real detective" is not the one who solves crime by relating and talking with the people. It's the Sherlock style one that visualizes the crime and solves with raw intellect not emotional connection. No judgements, I fall into this as well but I can't un- notice it now.
Good episode, as one would reasonably expect from euro brady
Honestly this weird sort of play through has been interesting because when you didn’t discover the bullet early in the game I was curious how things would play out and am surprised that it even came up at this point.
I have no idea if it's intentional or not, but Lena's cryptozoology gives me the same feeling as religious people in real life. You can be 99% sure what they believe is nonsense, but it does have a lot of emotional significance to them, which gives me certain respect for it.
Hi Brady
👋
The number of times I messaged my friend who had played this already with my theory of who did it, how and why, only to play for another hour and have to message them again "Yeah, that's clearly wrong and now I have no idea what's going on again."... was large.
how tf did i catch up with this series? i started watching only a couple of days ago
now i have to cope with an addiction ._.
NO SPOILERS HERE
When you looked at that secret room behind Klasjees room, you were alone. If you come back with Kim, you can maybe get input from him
I kind of wished when you were talking to Morell that Kim would be around when you asked Lena about the rest of the cryptids, because Kim is just as openly skeptical as you were being, making the exact same comments like "ah yes, what a coincidence that no one is ever able to get pictures of these cryptids." LOL
Things like the pale are weird, but in-world they're common knowledge. No one is on the backfoot about the pale, casting hope about its existence while acknowledging the shortage of evidence
I feel one could draw a parallel between Lena/Morell's experiences and the theories spouted by Measurehead or worldview of Gary (the "crypto" prefix maybe isn't so much a joke as a descriptor of certain bodies of fringe ideas passionately adhered to in some corners). The difference is Lena and Morell are fixated on a far more tangible question about reality and zoology but the psychological origins of those beliefs may not be dissimilar to more prominently noxious ones of other characters.
It's possible to find an unfortunate branch of dialogue with Lena that hints at how, even while well-meaning and sweet, she and Morell get along with Gary. Or maybe how he influences them.
Swapping clothes is very common. There is a reason why you are allowed to quit most interactions and resume them. There is a good chance that you will forget that you swapped your clothes and you will then stumble into stuff you have missed previously because you couldn't pass passive checks (have X in Y stat). Plus some clothes have very funny descriptions and reasoning why they affect the stats they affect. You can justify it, if you need to, by saying that Harrier is able to recall his past better in certain clothes, and that past experience helps him with his current task
since your build was not logic focused, the game shows less of the detective side of the game that much until you spec into some of the skills related to it. But since you specced into the psy skills you got a whole different outlook on the game, and indeed you can solve the case without the need to focus on any of the trees if you wanted to. It merely leads you on different ways of experiencing the game and you progress differently potentially.
I'd definetely encourage a rerun or perhaps doing one on your own time after you finish your playthrough :p
The game does really encourage you more to be a detective. The stats you choose give you a different experience, but you end up there. If you take a lot of the "blue" stats, it becomes more of a detective game, sure. But that doesn't mean that red/yellow is any less important for an officer of the law. Especially the streets that Harry decides to police. More playthrough is a lot more visceral, than the calculated mind. It fits who Harry was or maybe still is, on some level.
I’d love to see you play The Stanley Parable
Spoilers for Brady truly end of the game stuff
I truly can't wait for him to hear Kim say "I see it too"
I'm not sure whether to interpret their relationship as "Morrell feels like he has to find the phasmid, to validate his wife's encounter with a cryptid" or "Lena feels like she has to define herself by her encounter with a cryptid, because she's afraid her husband will leave her for someone younger, prettier, and more able-bodied if she doesn't match his enthusiasm"
Would Lena believe so strongly in cryptids, and remember so firmly her sighting, if she didn't (kind of) think her marriage was at stake? That it's the main reason Morrell stuck by her?
Also, is Gary their unicorn? Or their bull, or something? I can't think of any innocent reason they know this guy
Why not both?
Nah they just like each other. There's nothing else to it regarding the cryptids, just one of many things to share and connect with.
Why wouldn't they know Gary? They've both traveled a lot in their life and come across all sorts of people. Gary can't be the one of the worst if he's still around. Thinking my own life, it would have been miserable if I didn't meet people like him every once in a while and lived in some weird thought bubble never engaging with people who seem different.
As he talks about turning points, the more i wonder what a Mushoku tensei reaction would look like lmao.
So many of those experiences seem a bit... lacking without Kim.
I have to agree. I miss him
Love from a CinemaTherapy and Vaush fan!
You only min max with games starting with D
Spoilers
38:00 OOOH just you wait!
Hell yeah
Wooohooo a new episode🫶🏼🫶🏼 I got so used watching your playthrough while studying (helps with learning English too!!)