@@RaptorRacing25 not if that puts him above Pearson. I didn’t watch so I don’t know where everyone is but Pearson is the best. Second best is Tim Flock. Next is Herb Thomas.
>Matt > 21 >21 is new Paul Menard's ride >21 is also Eric Jones age, which is Matt's replacement >27 - 8 = 19 >19 Xfinity car is sponsored by Paul Menard >19 is next year >17 was last year, also Matt's old number >Tide sponsored the 10 in Matt's debut year, so 17 + 10= 27 = Paul Menard old ride (which is now charter for the 8, which was earlier driven in cup by the ROTY runner up in his debut ) My theory is: Matt was poised to drive the Wood Brothers car but Paul bought that ride and also bought a share on JGR so he influenced the teams' choice on NOT renewing his contract, but then he tried to convince RCR to put him on the 27 charter but because he also pulled his sponsor, it was denied by RCR, so he also lost a chance of being an Elliot Sadler 2.0 in the 19 xfinity ride with Menard's/Tide Pods sponsor. Also Tide Pods wasn't a meme until they pulled their sponsorship from Matt. Illuminati confirmed. 👀
I’m biased towards Jeff Gordon but in his defense, if nascar kept the same consistent points method that they had Jeff Gordon would be a 7 time champion. Especially in 2014.
I'd argue that today's championships would have even more meaning with just how much more competitive they are and how much more the require from a team.
You’re looking at the facts on paper not who’s a better driver. I wouldn’t have made it that way but I can see how Gordon landed over Earnhardt. I would have placed Johnson above Petty because Petty took advantage of the bloated schedule of early nascar and he went on a winless streak for over a decade when nascar went into the modern era. Jimmie Johnson actually has consistency, even in 2020 he has been a threat for the win.
John Mack y'all need to stop with the whole Gordon would have seven titles of not for the chase. if Ernie Irvin doesn't swerve in front of Davey Allison in 1992 than Davey Allison would've won that championship. but Ernie irvin swerved Davey Allison got caught up in the wreck and the championship ended up coming down between Alan kulwicki and Bill Elliott. So stop with the whole Gordon would be a 7 time Champion if this didn't happened BS.
saying jeff wouldve won 7 championships without the chase is like saying the golden state warriors are 3 time consecutive champions. (which they arent). people need to let go of the past and acknowledge statistics for what they are. every team and every driver is given equal opportunity to win races and championships at the beginning of the year. so they race their season in a way that gets them to where they need to be to win the championship. saying certain things "would've" happened just shows how unintelligent you are and how little you know about statistics and the factors that change them.
Dood exactly I brought up the fact that if Dale Earnhardt in 1989 doesn't get in that wreck with Ricky Rudd when he was battling Rusty Wallace for the title he could have won the championship that year or in 2000 when Dale Earnhardt finished second in the championship to Bobby Labonte he had a couple of races down the stretch where he didn't perform well. if those two things work out for Dale Earnhardt he could have been 9 time champ but you know what they didn't and he was a 7 time champ. See would've should've game can work both ways.
@@Lukeijob not really, 5 in a row, 7 all time. plus jimmie has more wins and raced in a more competitive era. along with the fact that Jimmie raced with a class where he refused to wreck people.
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Yeah kyle busch is one of nascar's modern day heroes. I know he's not richard petty but he has over 200 wins in the different series and in cup he he has 2 championships. He has done what you just said.
@@kylebuschfan1826 Who cares about wins? Championships means consistency. If you have more than anyone, you are a better driver for a longer period than the rest.
I always consider David Pearson the greatest driver of all time. I think if he has the same opportunities, and raced more races he'd probably be the one with 200 wins. Just his winning percentage is so unbelievably amazing.
In fairness, please note that Jeff would have had 7 titles if the points system had not changed about ten gazillion times as he won under the Earnhardt/Petty points system. As a result, I consider him in a virtual 3 way tie with Dale and Richard for championships. I feel too many of Johnson's were kinda flukey, but he is still undoubtedly #4 on my list, with Pearson #5 (too few cups and raced way more races back in his era, I view him as a 50-win ish driver in the modern era). So I'd say Petty, Gordon, Sr, Johnson, Pearson, then debate Allison/Waltrip/Yarborough and mash my teeth as I think about it.
You could give Gordon that, but the thing is he didn't adapt but Johnson and a few others did. Not saying that Gordon was shit because he didn't try to learn it, though. It's just it's better to calculate on track and championship performance alone over a crap ton of imagination BTW how the hell do you know he would have 7 championships? Remember with the change of formats come the change of driving style.
7 titles. 123 Poles. 200 wins. 712 top tens. - - - 7 titles. 83 wins. 35 poles. 343 top tens. I'm a Stewart fan, through and through. But, I can not deny both of theses guys are GOATS! - As of 4/4/2018
I’m back and I don’t know about THIS list. I am really surprised about where Harvick is. That is wrong where Dale Sr. is. Final three 3. Johnson 2. Dale Sr. 1. King. I think Johnson will go down just like Gordon and Earnhardt... In the record books.
Top 10 in my opinion 10. Tony Stewart 9. Lee Petty 8. Darrell Waltrip 7. Rusty Wallace 6. Bobby Allison 5. Jeff Gordon 4. Jimmie Johnson 3. David Pearson 2. Dale Earnhardt 1. Richard Petty
Even if Gordon. "would have" won 7 without the chase, that doesn't matter. What matters is that Jeff didn't win during any of those years. The fact is Jimmie Johnson adapted to the chase very well and Jeff didn't adapt nearly as well.
What people forget is that Earnhardt had setbacks in his career and it was also shortened by his passing in 2001. He had almost the same winning percentage (11.2) as Gordon at 11.6, which averaged with as many starts as Gordon (805) would've given Dale 90 wins instead of 76. Also his wreck at Talladega in 1996 affected him to where he wasn't near as competitive before that, winning just 1 out of 100 races from '96 to '99 Talladega, and in his older age he still recovered to finish 2nd in points in 2000 and possibly would've won an 8th championship had he lived to try, and at least a lot more wins. Not to mention 7 championships that were arguably tougher than JJs where he didn't dominate the full season like Earnhardt had to. Perhaps Jimmie could've won under the other system had his team prepared for it but it probably would've been harder. This list is just not accurate. Earnhardt should be no lower than 3rd at worst.
Mr Applesauce and if are Ernie Irving doesn't swerve in front of Davey Allison in 1992 Davey Allison would've won the championship but you know what? Ernie irvan swerved Davey Allison got caught up in the wreck and the championship came down between Alan kulwicki and Bill Elliott. So the whole Gordon would've won 7 championships is pretty relevant.
Mr Applesauce Dale Earnhardt would've had 9 titles if he didn't get in that wreck with Ricky Rudd in 1989 and if he finished better down the stretch in 2000. In 2000 Dale Earnhardt finish second to Bobby Labonte in the Championships. 1989 when Dale Earnhardt got in that wreck with Ricky Rudd he was leading the point system. See the would've should've game can be played all types of ways.
I think some of the voters did that to not lose Jeff's respect. Some people are paranoid like that and don't want to lose much respect of a practical god.
5. jimmie johnson * 4. Jeff Gordon 3. David Pearson 2. Dale Earnhardt 1. Richard Petty * numerous scandals and was caught cheating many times. Also JJ was nothing without his crew chief.
@@curtcollins6659 man..... no driver is anything without their crew chief? and the numerous scandals chad is a genius for pushing the grey... Thats what makes chad so great. Every single driver and crew chief has done multiple sketchy things while driving, many drivers have said that racing is won by the best cheater. You're a fool to put jimmie anything less than second. 7 championships over 3 points systems and 4 cars.... in the most competitive time in the history of NASCAR.
Jeff would have the same amount of titles under the same system that Earnhardt had. That could give the nod? Plus 17 win difference, 2 Daytona 500 wins more?
JakeMaayan probably because is was a more well rounded of a driver. Out of the top 5 Jordon was by far the best on road course. That being said I think Earnhardt is the GOAT.... 1. Earnhardt 2.Petty 3. Gordon 4. Pearson 5. Johnson ( chase format, not his fault but complete season vs last 10 events) all amazing driver in the NASCAR ranks
My top 5: 5. David Pearson 4. Jeff Gordon 3. Dale Earnhardt 2. Jimmie Johnson 1. Richard Petty You could maybe swap Pearson with Gordon but I think he’s better since I’ve seen him race.
1. Pearson 2. Petty 3. Gordon 4. Earnhardt 5. Johnson Pearson had an incredible win percentage. Petty had 200 wins. Gordon has more wins in the modern era than anyone.
Keep in mind too, and this is strictly hypothetical, that Jeff Gordon competed in the Chase/Playoff Era and Dale Earnhardt didn’t. Think about the seasons Jeff had in which he would’ve won the title under the previous format (ex 2007). But I do agree that Dale should be past Jeff Gordon on this list. You can’t give or take championships away no matter how they’re won.
They changed the points system so Johnson wouldn't win championships but IT DIDN'T WORK! And Jimmie races on tv, Petty did not, so less people were influenced to race in Petty's era. My top 5: 5. David Pearson 4. Jeff Gordon 3. Richard Petty 2. Dale Earnhardt Sr. 1. Jimmie Johnson
Okay, so after finding my brain has logic, I'm just redoing the top 5 I made here. Only 2 spots changed. 5. Cale Yarborough (First ever 3-time champion in NASCAR with 83 wins. What's even more impressive was that he had suffered going off the track in 1967. It's no A.J. Foyt comeback story (Seriously, check the 1965 Riverside race to see that) but still. He was also that 3rd man who could beat Petty on a consistent basis. He narrowly lost at the Firecracker 400, for example.) 4. Jeff Gordon (I originally put him 3rd. He has 93 wins and 4 championships. He also has the least DNFs in a season, and is the current Iron Man! I said he would've gotten 3 championships if the Chase never existed in 2004, 2007, and 2014... but I retract that statement. As much as I'm a Gordon fan, it would be nearly impossible to replicate how the season went if there was a different point system, since people drive very differently in different situations. Such example being Kenseth. In 2003, he didn't need to win because he was consistent all season. In 2013, he won 7 times to stay in the Championship hunt. When the changes happened, Gordon also struggled to adapt. For you see, every championship he won under the regular system, he got maybe 6th in the Chase. He's still an amazing driver, but he peaked so early, and the new format killed his groove for a while. (I still believe 2014 should've been his. But bad luck ahoy in Charlotte and Phoenix) 3. Dale Earnhardt Sr. (Originally 4th. Here we have a 7-time champion. A 6-time champion with DEI, and a 1-time championship with crappy teams. Over 6 years. How? Because Sr. He's done things that I never even thought could be done. The "pass" in the grass, the intimidation factor, the fact that he could go from the back of the field to the lead in... 6 laps? I mean my god, HE GOT 2ND IN HIS FINAL YEAR! Really, the only reason he isn't considered any better is not because he lost his prime, but because... well, you know.) 2. Richard Petty (Yep, I'm staying stubborn here. He is the King of NASCAR with 200 wins, 7 championships, a historic 1964 season (though to be fair, probably would've been a whole different story if Weatherly didn't smack turn 6 in Riverside) and 7 Daytona 500s. Yet I still have the feeling that this was all he could do full-time. One driver did better part-time. 1. David Pearson (105 wins, 113 poles. and a 3-time champion. All in the span of only 574 races. Not once did he run a full-time season and he got 3 crowns, including a repeat in 1968 and 1969. He only has 10 less poles than Petty as well. Not only that, but he constantly battled Petty and actually often outmatched him. The mystery remains what he would've done if he ran a full-time season. Perhaps he wold be the King of NASCAR. That's why I consider him to be the best.) My honorable Mention: Joe Weatherly (25th is FAR to low for Little Joe. He was the definition of dominance in his era. He was the first ever repeat champion in NASCAR, and he did it in both of his full-time seasons. He could've done so much more, but as mentioned before, Riverside took his life.) I probably went retarted somewhere.
Hey where do you get your cars for the races? Awesome video! Glad Jimmy Johnson was in the top 3! And you said you can make an argument about him being number 1! I will make that argument! P.S: can I sponsor Jimmie Johnson for next season?
Gordon got screwed by the Chase system. Somebody went back a few years ago and did the math... if NASCAR had kept the old point system throughout Gordon’s career he would have won 9 championships
1. Jeff Gordon 2. Jimmie Johnson 3. Dale Earnhardt 4. Richard Petty 5. David Pearson Dale Earnhardt was more consistent all around than Richard Petty (Petty went 8 years at the end without a win) while I don’t think David Pearson has enough starts to be up in the top 3. I put Jeffery and JJ one, two as I feel they both dominated in the most competitive era the sport has ever seen. I gave Jeff the edge over Jimmie due to the fact he never really fell off the map over a 23 year career, 700+ consecutive starts, you could always count on Jeff running up front, even when he would have a down season (aside from his rookie year was never lower than 11th in points).
Here is my take on Gordon being ahead of Sr. I am a Gordon fan, but I do think Sr. Should be ahead. You mentioned ‘lulls’ in Gordon and Harvick’s career, and Sr had one too. His last Championship was in 1994, and he wasn’t the top dog anymore. I personally think 2001 or 2002 would have been his final year anyways. He also won those 7 championships in a similar era as Petty, Yarborough, Rusty Wallace, and Darrell Waltrip. Gordon won in the transition, and while he did become a 5-8 place car, Gordon did that in the toughest era, and debatably came 2 laps away from winning championship number 5, when he and Keselowski collided at Texas in 14. I do think Sr should be ahead, but by a narrow margin. My personal top 5 is 5. David Pearson 4. Jeff Gordon 3. Dale Earnhardt 2. Richard Petty 1. Jimmie Johnson
Great take and insight. Normally I do not agree with a lot of fans and people who analyze the sport when it comes to talent, logic, and overall performance but you seemed to hit it pretty well.
Kyle busch. 43 wins at the time... Been 4 years since this ranking was done. Since then he's up to 2 cup championships... 1 xfinity championship... 60 cup wins.. over 100 xfinity wins.. over 200 wins across all series.. he's won at almost every track... like him or hate him he is the top 2 or 3 pure Wheelman the sport has ever seen and is now just outside my top 5 to ever do it. Right now 1. Dale Earnhardt 2. Jimmie Johnson 3. Richard Petty 4. Jeff Gordon 5. David Pearson 6. Kyle Busch 7. Darrell Waltrip 8. Cale Yarborough 9. Bobby Allison 10. Tony Stewart
5 Gordon 4 Earnhardt 3 Yarborough 2 petty 1 David Pearson I also think Bill Elliot would be top 10 had he stayed in a competitive ride and not started his own team. Also Ernie irvan should be on the list if not for injury he would have at least 1 title and probably 50-60 wins
Jeff Gordon would have 7 championships under the Winston Cup rules that Earnhardt won his 7 under, that certainly contributed to it. Exactly the kind of consistency you mentioned is what Gordon had INSTEAD of getting lucky at the very end like Kurt Busch and Jimmie Johnson did. Johnson would have 3 championships if the chase was eliminated.
I feel like you have a bias towards Modern-Era Drivers (I do too, I grew up with them) but guys like fireball and Especially junior Johnson made NASCAR what it is, he basically wrote half the rule book lmao. Great Content tho Glad to see NASCAR get its do on YT, Love your vids.
Top 5 should be like this 5. Jimmie Johnson 4. Jeff Gordon 3. Richard Petty 2. Dale Earnhardt 1. David Pearson My reasoning: Johnson at 5 because if the points stayed normal, he’d only have 3 championships if I remember correctly Gordon at 4 because he raced against so many great drivers and beat them, should have had 7 championships with the traditional points, but didn’t always have the fastest car year in and year out Petty at 3 because he got most of his wins in the 60s and early 70s when NASCAR wasn’t as competitive as it is today, but still deserves a lot of credit for his 200 wins David Pearson at 2 because he won 105 races in a limited amount of starts, ran part time for most of his career Dale Earnhardt at 1 because he won the championship in 7 out of 21 years (1 about every 3 years) and had 76 wins. Once he started winning, he was almost always a factor. Probably would’ve gotten more wins and another championship, but we all know what happened. We miss you Dale.
Without the Chase being introduced Jeff would have won 8 Championships. I watched a guy making a Video how the season would have played out without the Chase.
the f1 nerd I don't get why people were so butt hurt about that. I would have placed him in 3rd (Behind Petty and Pearson) but yeah it's pretty sad they put Jimmie Johnson on top.
I stopped the vid at Big "E" to look at the stats compared to Gordon. I was surprised to see that Gordon..... in 125 more races than Earnhardt.....had only 4 more DNF's
I've thought about this a lot, and as much as I admire Jimmie for 7 titles, including 5 in a row during the Chase era, I have to put Dale Sr at #1. 7 titles, 76 wins. But what gives him the edge is the cultural impact he had on the sport. His presence vaulted Nascar's popularity in the 80s and early 90s and changed the game in regards to how drivers race today. "Rattling his cage a little" is still an excuse drivers use today when bumping another driver. So Dale #1, Jimmie #2, Petty #3, Gordon #4, Pearson #5 is what I would have put.
The sheer number of Richard Petty's wins can't be denied, and I'm not saying that he isn't the best driver of all time, but I think that he is given too much credit sometimes considering the fact that he raced, and won most of his races, in a time where the races were only 200 miles long, were on dirt, and only had 3 drivers finish on the lead lap.
You can't call it the most competitive era in NASCAR when you have one driver win 5 straight championships and one team winning a half the races in a season. I would say it was the early 90s to early 2000s. There was just so many race teams and drivers that you could say where absolute contenders for the title and every race there would be 20 drivers who could win the race and it wouldn't at all be a surprise. It hit its peak around 02-04 when you had hendrick,childress,gibbs,rousch,Dei,ganassi,evernham,Yates,Penske all of witch where top tier and had multiple cars and expected all of them to be competitive then you had second tier teams like travis Carter,bill Davis,Mb2, that could absolutely compete for wins each week
My list is a bit more analytical in a sense: 5. Gordon (11.5% wins, 59.2% top tens in 805 races) 4. Johnson (12.6% wins, 55.8% top tens in 657 races) 3. Pearson (18.2% wins, 63.7% top tens in 574 races) 2. Earnhardt (11.2% wins, 63.3% top tens in 676 races) 1. Petty (16.8% wins, 60.1% top tens in 1184 races) The issue of weighing championships heavier leads to era bias. There's a stark difference in playoff racing vs points racing over a season. Good racers can win here and there but great racers are consistently great. This list really shows how consistently great Pearson was. The fact that he's second in wins and has one less top ten than Jimmie Johnson today speaks volumes for the amount of races he ran comparative to everyone else.
Tony Steward got higher was due to what he did in 2008 that promoted the sport into new heights when he promoted the whole series overseas with Mobil and promoted it to the UK while McLaren, partners with Mobil at that time for their F1 season, in turn promoted F1 in America thus this two crossover saw many F1 drivers adapting to NASCAR for fun while NASCAR drivers adapting to F1 for fun and you can actually call Tony the actual one that paved the way for British people to like NASCAR and how the rest of the world finally opened up to NASCAR. That itself is a big achievement as a driver to do that and yet, never tried F1, lapped a great time with it. That's the power of Smokey. Plus he's fun to be with.
Keep in mind that Jeff would have won his 7th championship had it not been for the chase, he would had only two championships had the chase been implemented when he started. This proves that Jeff Gordon is awful when it comes to playoffs.
I'm sorry, I know I am YEARS late to the party, but here's the case for Jeff over Dale. They raced head to head for eight years. In those 8 years - which included Jeff's rookie season and not including the 1992 Hooters 500 and the 2001 Daytona 500 - the numbers OVERWHELMINGLY favor Jeff. In those 8 seasons, Jeff won 52 times, Dale 23. Jeff had 129 top-5s and 166 Top-10s. Dale had 101 and 160. Jeff finished ahead of Dale in the points 5 of the 8 years, and won 3 titles to Dale's 2. Jeff won 33 poles, Dale won 9. Jeff led 10,708 laps to Dale's 5,751 - and Dale ran nearly 3,000 MORE laps than Jeff. The only two areas where Dale led Jeff in those 8 years are average finish (10.7-11.7) and average points finish (3.75-5.25). And if you take out Jeff's rookie season of 93, Jeff actually averaged a SLIGHTLY better average finish (10.8-11.1) AND points finish (4.0-4.1).
I agree about the Jimmie Johnson thing, my dad and I were talking about it after the show and I asked if he got #8 would he got straight to number 1 and he said without a doubt yes.
1. Petty 2. Earnhardt 3. Gordon If the points system isn’t molested Gordon wins the 04, 07, and 14 championships. That’s not a lull, that’s over 20 years of pure dominance
Keep in mind that Tony Stewart has an IRL Championship and spent 4 or 5 years in Indy car. While this is a NASCAR list, keep in mind his career was shortened by a few seasons. I would have put Johnson 5th, Dale Earnhardt 4th, Jeff Gordon 3rd, 2nd David Pearson, 1 Richard Petty. That's just my personal top 5. I think those five guys and maybe Cale Yarbrough are sort of in a class by themselves at the top. Those guys were all just fantastic. I don't put as much prestige in Johnson's championships because I don't put much prestige in Chase format. The Chase format is like Funko vinyl figures; some people like them and they can be fun sometimes but I personally don't see any value in them at all. If the list was "Driver best at finishing in the Top 10" Earnhardt would be my number one. ...I thought Tim Flock was a little underrated at 20.
Would you ever consider doing a video of drivers that would be Champion under the old points leader format? at 9:32 it makes me think of that... I am almost certain? (I think) under the old format Jeff Gordon would have 7 championships all together.
Love the video but you're being slightly inconsistent with your views as well Eric. You say Gordon had a slump in his career but you're forgetting that Dale Earnhardt from 97-00 Earnhardt had 6 wins. Inlcuding a winless 97 and a one win 98. In Jeff Gordons final 4 years he had 8 wins and a title run (much like Earnhardt). Im just saying that Earnhardt didnt have an extremely consistent career. There were a couple dud seasons in his career too
But earnhardt won 7 Titles DUE TO CONSISTENCY. 97 was a horrible season because of his horrible wreck, 98 was just a meh season (despite his daytona 500) And his 1987 and 1990 Seasons were Insane
I can tell you why Gordon is ahead of Earnhardt Sr. If they kept the Winston Cup points format Gordon has 8-10 championships, with 93 wins in a more competitive area is big. And if every thing goes right for Gordon and Pearson Gordon would have more wins then him
proper top 5 5. Jeff Gordon 4. David Pearson 3. Jimmie Johnson 2. Dale Earnhardt 1. Richard Petty id honestly consider putting johnson slightly lower in the top 5 just because if the chase didn’t exist he would have significantly less championships (im pretty sure it’d only be 2) all the other guys did it without the crutch of the chase
My top 5 would’ve been: 5. Gordon 4. JJ 3. Earnhardt 2. Pearson 1. Petty I put Pearson at 2 because he only raced 4 whole seasons and in 3 of those he won the championship. Won 105 races in 574 starts with 301 top 5s and 366 top 10s. Earnhardt and JJ have 7 championships a piece, and JJ will likely move up the win list. Maybe even get the 8th championship? But, this is how I see it right now.
Mark Martin shouldn't be ahead of Dale Jarrett, Dale Jarrett has 2 championships in 3 Daytona 500 wins. I thought they all said they was going to put more weight on championships.
1 is a toss up between Earhardt and Petty. 3 is Jeff gordon because he is a driver who kinda got screwed by the playoff system and is the one of the most consistent drivers. 4 is pearson. 5 Is Jimmie barely because the championships but not at top 3 driver because of the playoff series.
Eric "They're not being consistent with the value of championships."
Me "Like their rulings?"
if D Pearson ran more full time years he probably would've been better than Richard Petty
Declan George he was anyway he is the best ever
Declan George he is the best
Dale earnhardt should at least be 2nd
@@RaptorRacing25 not if that puts him above Pearson. I didn’t watch so I don’t know where everyone is but Pearson is the best. Second best is Tim Flock. Next is Herb Thomas.
No I doo not agree
>Matt
> 21
>21 is new Paul Menard's ride
>21 is also Eric Jones age, which is Matt's replacement
>27 - 8 = 19
>19 Xfinity car is sponsored by Paul Menard
>19 is next year
>17 was last year, also Matt's old number
>Tide sponsored the 10 in Matt's debut year, so 17 + 10= 27 = Paul Menard old ride (which is now charter for the 8, which was earlier driven in cup by the ROTY runner up in his debut )
My theory is: Matt was poised to drive the Wood Brothers car but Paul bought that ride and also bought a share on JGR so he influenced the teams' choice on NOT renewing his contract, but then he tried to convince RCR to put him on the 27 charter but because he also pulled his sponsor, it was denied by RCR, so he also lost a chance of being an Elliot Sadler 2.0 in the 19 xfinity ride with Menard's/Tide Pods sponsor. Also Tide Pods wasn't a meme until they pulled their sponsorship from Matt. Illuminati confirmed. 👀
That aint the charter for the 8. It's for the 00.
huh
"Harvick still has a chance to win a few more races" Harvick now with 58 wins and two more championship runs
DALE TO THE FRICKING SR 5TH!?
He should be top 3
yea he wasn't no fucking hero, just throw someone in the wall so i can win
@@cemetery76 rubbing is racing you pussy snowflake you are out there to win at all cost not make friends Dale was the greatest all-time
@Bleed Orange yeah what's your point Dale was the greatest and Kyle crybaby is trash
@@rcracer8872 no, richard petty. dale is 3rd for me. but richard petty is definitely the best.
I’m biased towards Jeff Gordon but in his defense, if nascar kept the same consistent points method that they had Jeff Gordon would be a 7 time champion. Especially in 2014.
I agree. I was never a Hugh Gordon fan but I did think he was a better driver. Also you have to look at who else was on the track at the time.
As a die hard Gordon fan I can say that now Chase might live up to the hype.
Also head to head once we hit 94 Jeff Gordon was giving big e the whoppin
dale was better
2015 and 2016 Harvick also scored the most points of anyone as well.
Not every championship should be valued equally. Brian France has spent the last 15 years making NASCAR championships utterly meaningless.
I'd argue that today's championships would have even more meaning with just how much more competitive they are and how much more the require from a team.
Jimmie Johnson's championships were much easier to win then the way Dale Earnhardt had to do it
Nathan Stroud So true Nathan so true!...
This is getting out of hand. *Now there are two of them.*
3:13 now he has 58, damn time flies
You’re looking at the facts on paper not who’s a better driver. I wouldn’t have made it that way but I can see how Gordon landed over Earnhardt. I would have placed Johnson above Petty because Petty took advantage of the bloated schedule of early nascar and he went on a winless streak for over a decade when nascar went into the modern era. Jimmie Johnson actually has consistency, even in 2020 he has been a threat for the win.
5. Johnson
4. Pearson
3. Earnhardt
2. Gordon (he would have 7 titles if not for the Chase)
1. The King
John Mack y'all need to stop with the whole Gordon would have seven titles of not for the chase. if Ernie Irvin doesn't swerve in front of Davey Allison in 1992 than Davey Allison would've won that championship. but Ernie irvin swerved Davey Allison got caught up in the wreck and the championship ended up coming down between Alan kulwicki and Bill Elliott. So stop with the whole Gordon would be a 7 time Champion if this didn't happened BS.
saying jeff wouldve won 7 championships without the chase is like saying the golden state warriors are 3 time consecutive champions. (which they arent). people need to let go of the past and acknowledge statistics for what they are. every team and every driver is given equal opportunity to win races and championships at the beginning of the year. so they race their season in a way that gets them to where they need to be to win the championship. saying certain things "would've" happened just shows how unintelligent you are and how little you know about statistics and the factors that change them.
Dood exactly I brought up the fact that if Dale Earnhardt in 1989 doesn't get in that wreck with Ricky Rudd when he was battling Rusty Wallace for the title he could have won the championship that year or in 2000 when Dale Earnhardt finished second in the championship to Bobby Labonte he had a couple of races down the stretch where he didn't perform well. if those two things work out for Dale Earnhardt he could have been 9 time champ but you know what they didn't and he was a 7 time champ. See would've should've game can work both ways.
John Mack dude notice how most of the people on this top 50 races with Earnhardt
My Top 5: 1. Richard Petty - 2. Jimmie Johnson - 3. Dale Earnhardt Sr. - 4. Jeff Gordon - 5. David Pearson
Scott Young I think dale has got jimmie
@@Lukeijob not really, 5 in a row, 7 all time. plus jimmie has more wins and raced in a more competitive era. along with the fact that Jimmie raced with a class where he refused to wreck people.
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Keep it up and thank you for making videos for these lovely people to watch.
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Keep it up bud :)
I appreciate it! Thanks for the support!
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WTF NASCAR!! HOW DARE YOU PUT DALE EARNHARDT IN NUMBER #5!!
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Kyle Busch got the triple in 2010 remember with Cup,Xfinity(or at that time Nationwide) and Truck in 1 weekend
Yeah kyle busch is one of nascar's modern day heroes. I know he's not richard petty but he has over 200 wins in the different series and in cup he he has 2 championships. He has done what you just said.
dale sr 5th??
This is shit he should be In 3rd
Tomcat Gamer he should be 4th David Pearson has a lot more wins
@@kylebuschfan1826 Who cares about wins?
Championships means consistency. If you have more than anyone, you are a better driver for a longer period than the rest.
Dark Reality Pearson didn’t run full time every season
@@kylebuschfan1826 nope Dale is # 1 and Kyle crybaby is not even top 40
I always consider David Pearson the greatest driver of all time. I think if he has the same opportunities, and raced more races he'd probably be the one with 200 wins. Just his winning percentage is so unbelievably amazing.
Mr.YAMP Petty has the same win percentage.
In fairness, please note that Jeff would have had 7 titles if the points system had not changed about ten gazillion times as he won under the Earnhardt/Petty points system. As a result, I consider him in a virtual 3 way tie with Dale and Richard for championships. I feel too many of Johnson's were kinda flukey, but he is still undoubtedly #4 on my list, with Pearson #5 (too few cups and raced way more races back in his era, I view him as a 50-win ish driver in the modern era). So I'd say Petty, Gordon, Sr, Johnson, Pearson, then debate Allison/Waltrip/Yarborough and mash my teeth as I think about it.
You could give Gordon that, but the thing is he didn't adapt but Johnson and a few others did. Not saying that Gordon was shit because he didn't try to learn it, though. It's just it's better to calculate on track and championship performance alone over a crap ton of imagination
BTW how the hell do you know he would have 7 championships? Remember with the change of formats come the change of driving style.
Maybe Pearson ahead of Johnson but still good
Stephen Puglisi would've should've could've. The Buffalo Bills would have won a Super Bowl had that field goal went in but it did.
Stephen Puglisi you don't know that for sure
Jeff Gordon wishes he never told Rick Hendrick about Jimmie Johnson!
7 titles.
123 Poles.
200 wins.
712 top tens.
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7 titles.
83 wins.
35 poles.
343 top tens.
I'm a Stewart fan, through and through. But, I can not deny both of theses guys are GOATS! - As of 4/4/2018
I’m back and I don’t know about THIS list. I am really surprised about where Harvick is. That is wrong where Dale Sr. is. Final three 3. Johnson 2. Dale Sr. 1. King. I think Johnson will go down just like Gordon and Earnhardt...
In the record books.
Top 10 in my opinion
10. Tony Stewart
9. Lee Petty
8. Darrell Waltrip
7. Rusty Wallace
6. Bobby Allison
5. Jeff Gordon
4. Jimmie Johnson
3. David Pearson
2. Dale Earnhardt
1. Richard Petty
Even if Gordon. "would have" won 7 without the chase, that doesn't matter. What matters is that Jeff didn't win during any of those years. The fact is Jimmie Johnson adapted to the chase very well and Jeff didn't adapt nearly as well.
What people forget is that Earnhardt had setbacks in his career and it was also shortened by his passing in 2001. He had almost the same winning percentage (11.2) as Gordon at 11.6, which averaged with as many starts as Gordon (805) would've given Dale 90 wins instead of 76. Also his wreck at Talladega in 1996 affected him to where he wasn't near as competitive before that, winning just 1 out of 100 races from '96 to '99 Talladega, and in his older age he still recovered to finish 2nd in points in 2000 and possibly would've won an 8th championship had he lived to try, and at least a lot more wins. Not to mention 7 championships that were arguably tougher than JJs where he didn't dominate the full season like Earnhardt had to. Perhaps Jimmie could've won under the other system had his team prepared for it but it probably would've been harder. This list is just not accurate. Earnhardt should be no lower than 3rd at worst.
NASCAR racehub is on drugs
heh
nascarfancslfr lmao
Shut up
Tonya Davis no thank you
nascarfancslfr Dale Sr is number one greatest all-time no-one else is even close
Gordon would've had 7 titles if it wasn't for the points system. Should've placed him 2nd instead of jimmie
Mr Applesauce you don't know that for sure
RC RACER 88 even though I think is irrelevant there is a video saying what if the chase never happened it's on RUclips.
Mr Applesauce and if are Ernie Irving doesn't swerve in front of Davey Allison in 1992 Davey Allison would've won the championship but you know what? Ernie irvan swerved Davey Allison got caught up in the wreck and the championship came down between Alan kulwicki and Bill Elliott. So the whole Gordon would've won 7 championships is pretty relevant.
Mr Applesauce Dale Earnhardt would've had 9 titles if he didn't get in that wreck with Ricky Rudd in 1989 and if he finished better down the stretch in 2000. In 2000 Dale Earnhardt finish second to Bobby Labonte in the Championships. 1989 when Dale Earnhardt got in that wreck with Ricky Rudd he was leading the point system. See the would've should've game can be played all types of ways.
MICOLE WHYTE yeah I remember that battle for the 2000 championship very well
People question why Jeff Gordon is above Dale Earnhardt just remember Jeff is one of the voters
N42CAR • 1 vote doesnt matter out of 20 people
No hate tho
He's kinda right
peobly a fan he is right
I think some of the voters did that to not lose Jeff's respect. Some people are paranoid like that and don't want to lose much respect of a practical god.
My top 5 best nascar drivers of all time
5. Jeff Gordon
4. David Pearson
3. Dale Earnhardt
2. Jimmie Johnson
1. Richard Petty
DALE Earnhardt is far better than Jimmie Johnson ever was
My top 5
5. Jeff Gordon
4. David Pearson
3. Jimmie Johnson
2. Dale Earnhardt
1. Richard Petty
That's how I would rank them
Dale over jimmy
5. jimmie johnson *
4. Jeff Gordon
3. David Pearson
2. Dale Earnhardt
1. Richard Petty
* numerous scandals and was caught cheating many times. Also JJ was nothing without his crew chief.
@@curtcollins6659 man..... no driver is anything without their crew chief? and the numerous scandals chad is a genius for pushing the grey... Thats what makes chad so great. Every single driver and crew chief has done multiple sketchy things while driving, many drivers have said that racing is won by the best cheater. You're a fool to put jimmie anything less than second. 7 championships over 3 points systems and 4 cars.... in the most competitive time in the history of NASCAR.
@@karadyer6906 Dale Earnhardt is NASCAR's greatest driver ever far better than Jimmie
My top 5:
5. Jeff Gordon
4. David Pearson
3. Dale earnhardt sr.
2. Richard Petty
1. Jimmie Johnson
I’m not a big Jimmy Fan but I agree with you
The best Richard Petty's moment is 1979 D-500 with Cale and Donnie's fight and 1992 final race
Jeff would have the same amount of titles under the same system that Earnhardt had. That could give the nod? Plus 17 win difference, 2 Daytona 500 wins more?
Shoulda Woulda Coulda BUT DIDN'T.
Remember that Gordon fans
DoubleEdud if you hold the last year against Jimmie than you have to hold the fact that Petty failed to win in his last 8 full seasons
JakeMaayan probably because is was a more well rounded of a driver. Out of the top 5 Jordon was by far the best on road course. That being said I think Earnhardt is the GOAT.... 1. Earnhardt 2.Petty 3. Gordon 4. Pearson 5. Johnson ( chase format, not his fault but complete season vs last 10 events) all amazing driver in the NASCAR ranks
DoubleEdud I agree to disagree. Jimmy should be 5th Earnhardt be 2nd
This is how I would fix the top Five #5 Jimmie Johnson, #4 Jeff gordon, #3 Dale Earnhardt #2 David Pearson #1 Richard Petty
DoubleEdud get Kyle Busch the hell behind keslowski also Wallace should be in the top 5
My top 5:
5. David Pearson
4. Jeff Gordon
3. Dale Earnhardt
2. Jimmie Johnson
1. Richard Petty
You could maybe swap Pearson with Gordon but I think he’s better since I’ve seen him race.
1. Pearson 2. Petty 3. Gordon 4. Earnhardt 5. Johnson
Pearson had an incredible win percentage. Petty had 200 wins. Gordon has more wins in the modern era than anyone.
What?
How you gonna put Gordon ahead of Sr when Dale won almost as many championships as Gordon and out of his prime? Come on man
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No
Keep in mind too, and this is strictly hypothetical, that Jeff Gordon competed in the Chase/Playoff Era and Dale Earnhardt didn’t. Think about the seasons Jeff had in which he would’ve won the title under the previous format (ex 2007). But I do agree that Dale should be past Jeff Gordon on this list. You can’t give or take championships away no matter how they’re won.
They changed the points system so Johnson wouldn't win championships but IT DIDN'T WORK! And Jimmie races on tv, Petty did not, so less people were influenced to race in Petty's era. My top 5:
5. David Pearson
4. Jeff Gordon
3. Richard Petty
2. Dale Earnhardt Sr.
1. Jimmie Johnson
1. Richard Petty
2. Dale Earnhardt
3. Jeff Gordon
4. Jimmie Johnson
5. Divid Pearson
My top 5.
Geoff Bodine should have made the top 50 he was better than some on the list
Jeff Gordon should honestly be higher because he theoretically would have 8 championships if they stuck with the original point system.
Okay, so after finding my brain has logic, I'm just redoing the top 5 I made here. Only 2 spots changed.
5. Cale Yarborough (First ever 3-time champion in NASCAR with 83 wins. What's even more impressive was that he had suffered going off the track in 1967. It's no A.J. Foyt comeback story (Seriously, check the 1965 Riverside race to see that) but still. He was also that 3rd man who could beat Petty on a consistent basis. He narrowly lost at the Firecracker 400, for example.)
4. Jeff Gordon (I originally put him 3rd. He has 93 wins and 4 championships. He also has the least DNFs in a season, and is the current Iron Man! I said he would've gotten 3 championships if the Chase never existed in 2004, 2007, and 2014... but I retract that statement. As much as I'm a Gordon fan, it would be nearly impossible to replicate how the season went if there was a different point system, since people drive very differently in different situations. Such example being Kenseth. In 2003, he didn't need to win because he was consistent all season. In 2013, he won 7 times to stay in the Championship hunt. When the changes happened, Gordon also struggled to adapt. For you see, every championship he won under the regular system, he got maybe 6th in the Chase. He's still an amazing driver, but he peaked so early, and the new format killed his groove for a while. (I still believe 2014 should've been his. But bad luck ahoy in Charlotte and Phoenix)
3. Dale Earnhardt Sr. (Originally 4th. Here we have a 7-time champion. A 6-time champion with DEI, and a 1-time championship with crappy teams. Over 6 years. How? Because Sr. He's done things that I never even thought could be done. The "pass" in the grass, the intimidation factor, the fact that he could go from the back of the field to the lead in... 6 laps? I mean my god, HE GOT 2ND IN HIS FINAL YEAR! Really, the only reason he isn't considered any better is not because he lost his prime, but because... well, you know.)
2. Richard Petty (Yep, I'm staying stubborn here. He is the King of NASCAR with 200 wins, 7 championships, a historic 1964 season (though to be fair, probably would've been a whole different story if Weatherly didn't smack turn 6 in Riverside) and 7 Daytona 500s. Yet I still have the feeling that this was all he could do full-time. One driver did better part-time.
1. David Pearson (105 wins, 113 poles. and a 3-time champion. All in the span of only 574 races. Not once did he run a full-time season and he got 3 crowns, including a repeat in 1968 and 1969. He only has 10 less poles than Petty as well. Not only that, but he constantly battled Petty and actually often outmatched him. The mystery remains what he would've done if he ran a full-time season. Perhaps he wold be the King of NASCAR. That's why I consider him to be the best.)
My honorable Mention:
Joe Weatherly (25th is FAR to low for Little Joe. He was the definition of dominance in his era. He was the first ever repeat champion in NASCAR, and he did it in both of his full-time seasons. He could've done so much more, but as mentioned before, Riverside took his life.)
I probably went retarted somewhere.
Dale earnhardt won 6 championships with richerd childress not dei
Another great episode Eric! And who was high when putting Dale Sr 5th? Also I voted for your sister in the scholarship, hope she wins!
Hey where do you get your cars for the races? Awesome video! Glad Jimmy Johnson was in the top 3! And you said you can make an argument about him being number 1! I will make that argument! P.S: can I sponsor Jimmie Johnson for next season?
The Common Gamer if you want those cars for a reasonable price, buy them for $8 on EBay.
Jimmie Johnson is overrated and Dale Earnhardt is nascar's greatest driver ever
My top 5 would have been
5. Jeff Gordon
4. Jimmy Johnson
3. Dale Earnhardt (not because if his car #)
2. David Pearson
1. Richard Petty
2 years later Harvick has gained 16 more wins lol
Gordon got screwed by the Chase system. Somebody went back a few years ago and did the math... if NASCAR had kept the old point system throughout Gordon’s career he would have won 9 championships
1. Jeff Gordon 2. Jimmie Johnson 3. Dale Earnhardt 4. Richard Petty 5. David Pearson
Dale Earnhardt was more consistent all around than Richard Petty (Petty went 8 years at the end without a win) while I don’t think David Pearson has enough starts to be up in the top 3. I put Jeffery and JJ one, two as I feel they both dominated in the most competitive era the sport has ever seen. I gave Jeff the edge over Jimmie due to the fact he never really fell off the map over a 23 year career, 700+ consecutive starts, you could always count on Jeff running up front, even when he would have a down season (aside from his rookie year was never lower than 11th in points).
Aidan Brazill sr best ever 79 roty then champ with shit car rod oak did not have the cars sr needed still won
Aidan Brazill jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson combined aren't as great as Dale Earnhardt
I would say Dale should be 3rd on this list. I say you could argue Pearson or Jeff both for 4th and 5th
Here is my take on Gordon being ahead of Sr. I am a Gordon fan, but I do think Sr. Should be ahead. You mentioned ‘lulls’ in Gordon and Harvick’s career, and Sr had one too. His last Championship was in 1994, and he wasn’t the top dog anymore. I personally think 2001 or 2002 would have been his final year anyways. He also won those 7 championships in a similar era as Petty, Yarborough, Rusty Wallace, and Darrell Waltrip. Gordon won in the transition, and while he did become a 5-8 place car, Gordon did that in the toughest era, and debatably came 2 laps away from winning championship number 5, when he and Keselowski collided at Texas in 14. I do think Sr should be ahead, but by a narrow margin.
My personal top 5 is
5. David Pearson
4. Jeff Gordon
3. Dale Earnhardt
2. Richard Petty
1. Jimmie Johnson
But would if Jimmie retires at the end of the 2020 season?
my top 5 would be : 1. Richard Petty , 2 Dale Earnhardt 3 David Pearson 4 Jeff Gordon 5 Jimmie Johnson.
My top 10
10:T. Stewart
9:L. Petty
8.B. Allison
7.D. Wakeup
6:C. Yarbourough
5.J. Gordon
4.D.Earnhardt
Then same 3 as the real list
Great take and insight. Normally I do not agree with a lot of fans and people who analyze the sport when it comes to talent, logic, and overall performance but you seemed to hit it pretty well.
Jeff Gordon would have 7 titles if he spent his entire career racing under the same points system that Sr did
Kyle busch. 43 wins at the time... Been 4 years since this ranking was done. Since then he's up to 2 cup championships... 1 xfinity championship... 60 cup wins.. over 100 xfinity wins.. over 200 wins across all series.. he's won at almost every track... like him or hate him he is the top 2 or 3 pure Wheelman the sport has ever seen and is now just outside my top 5 to ever do it.
Right now
1. Dale Earnhardt
2. Jimmie Johnson
3. Richard Petty
4. Jeff Gordon
5. David Pearson
6. Kyle Busch
7. Darrell Waltrip
8. Cale Yarborough
9. Bobby Allison
10. Tony Stewart
5 Gordon 4 Earnhardt 3 Yarborough 2 petty 1 David Pearson
I also think Bill Elliot would be top 10 had he stayed in a competitive ride and not started his own team. Also Ernie irvan should be on the list if not for injury he would have at least 1 title and probably 50-60 wins
Had the original points system stayed Jeff would have had 7 championships
Jeff Gordon would have 7 championships under the Winston Cup rules that Earnhardt won his 7 under, that certainly contributed to it. Exactly the kind of consistency you mentioned is what Gordon had INSTEAD of getting lucky at the very end like Kurt Busch and Jimmie Johnson did. Johnson would have 3 championships if the chase was eliminated.
You don't that and Dale was better than Jeff 7 to 4
I feel like you have a bias towards Modern-Era Drivers (I do too, I grew up with them) but guys like fireball and Especially junior Johnson made NASCAR what it is, he basically wrote half the rule book lmao.
Great Content tho Glad to see NASCAR get its do on YT, Love your vids.
Top 5 should be like this
5. Jimmie Johnson
4. Jeff Gordon
3. Richard Petty
2. Dale Earnhardt
1. David Pearson
My reasoning: Johnson at 5 because if the points stayed normal, he’d only have 3 championships if I remember correctly
Gordon at 4 because he raced against so many great drivers and beat them, should have had 7 championships with the traditional points, but didn’t always have the fastest car year in and year out
Petty at 3 because he got most of his wins in the 60s and early 70s when NASCAR wasn’t as competitive as it is today, but still deserves a lot of credit for his 200 wins
David Pearson at 2 because he won 105 races in a limited amount of starts, ran part time for most of his career
Dale Earnhardt at 1 because he won the championship in 7 out of 21 years (1 about every 3 years) and had 76 wins. Once he started winning, he was almost always a factor. Probably would’ve gotten more wins and another championship, but we all know what happened. We miss you Dale.
Without the Chase being introduced Jeff would have won 8 Championships. I watched a guy making a Video how the season would have played out without the Chase.
I personally believe it’s
1.Petty
2.Earnhardt
3.Johnson
4.Pearson
5.Gordon
They put dale Sr at 5 I'm disappointed
the f1 nerd same
the f1 nerd I don't get why people were so butt hurt about that. I would have placed him in 3rd (Behind Petty and Pearson) but yeah it's pretty sad they put Jimmie Johnson on top.
James Braun Dale Earnhardt is the greatest all-time Jimmie Johnson is nothing compared to Dale Earnhardt
1.Petty
2.Dale Sr
3.Jimmie
4.Gordon
5 . Pearson
I stopped the vid at Big "E" to look at the stats compared to Gordon. I was surprised to see that Gordon..... in 125 more races than Earnhardt.....had only 4 more DNF's
Jeff Gordon won 60 races in 6 years...
How is dale earnhardth 5th
25-21 - Eric: Alright
20-16 - Eric: Fair
15-11 - Eric: Fair
10-6 - Eric: Fair
1-5 - Eric: Are you kidding me!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I'm satisfied with a 9th for mah boi Tony Stewart 😌
@ClintBoy14 9th is good
I've thought about this a lot, and as much as I admire Jimmie for 7 titles, including 5 in a row during the Chase era, I have to put Dale Sr at #1. 7 titles, 76 wins. But what gives him the edge is the cultural impact he had on the sport. His presence vaulted Nascar's popularity in the 80s and early 90s and changed the game in regards to how drivers race today. "Rattling his cage a little" is still an excuse drivers use today when bumping another driver. So Dale #1, Jimmie #2, Petty #3, Gordon #4, Pearson #5 is what I would have put.
1. Austin Dillon
2. Armani Williams
3. Natalie Decker
4. Hailee Deegan
Theyre not in order but those are my favorite NASCAR drivers
MY BOI KENSETH IS ON THA LIST!!
The sheer number of Richard Petty's wins can't be denied, and I'm not saying that he isn't the best driver of all time, but I think that he is given too much credit sometimes considering the fact that he raced, and won most of his races, in a time where the races were only 200 miles long, were on dirt, and only had 3 drivers finish on the lead lap.
3.dale Sr
2.jimmy Johnson
1.The King
DALE Earnhardt is NASCAR's greatest driver ever far better than Jimmie ever was
You can't call it the most competitive era in NASCAR when you have one driver win 5 straight championships and one team winning a half the races in a season. I would say it was the early 90s to early 2000s. There was just so many race teams and drivers that you could say where absolute contenders for the title and every race there would be 20 drivers who could win the race and it wouldn't at all be a surprise. It hit its peak around 02-04 when you had hendrick,childress,gibbs,rousch,Dei,ganassi,evernham,Yates,Penske all of witch where top tier and had multiple cars and expected all of them to be competitive then you had second tier teams like travis Carter,bill Davis,Mb2, that could absolutely compete for wins each week
LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF WINS GORDON HAS VS DALE HAS IN THE RACES THEY WERE BOTH IN
on the 1st, in my easter basket, i got a 1/64 scale Matt kenseth dewalt and i remembered it when i saw the bigger version on the table behind you
@13:59. What everybody's been trying to figure out since '09 Dega.
Dale is still far better than Jimmie ever was
My list is a bit more analytical in a sense:
5. Gordon (11.5% wins, 59.2% top tens in 805 races)
4. Johnson (12.6% wins, 55.8% top tens in 657 races)
3. Pearson (18.2% wins, 63.7% top tens in 574 races)
2. Earnhardt (11.2% wins, 63.3% top tens in 676 races)
1. Petty (16.8% wins, 60.1% top tens in 1184 races)
The issue of weighing championships heavier leads to era bias. There's a stark difference in playoff racing vs points racing over a season. Good racers can win here and there but great racers are consistently great. This list really shows how consistently great Pearson was. The fact that he's second in wins and has one less top ten than Jimmie Johnson today speaks volumes for the amount of races he ran comparative to everyone else.
Come on man. Petty didn't actually win that many races
Tony Steward got higher was due to what he did in 2008 that promoted the sport into new heights when he promoted the whole series overseas with Mobil and promoted it to the UK while McLaren, partners with Mobil at that time for their F1 season, in turn promoted F1 in America thus this two crossover saw many F1 drivers adapting to NASCAR for fun while NASCAR drivers adapting to F1 for fun and you can actually call Tony the actual one that paved the way for British people to like NASCAR and how the rest of the world finally opened up to NASCAR. That itself is a big achievement as a driver to do that and yet, never tried F1, lapped a great time with it. That's the power of Smokey. Plus he's fun to be with.
Keep in mind that Jeff would have won his 7th championship had it not been for the chase, he would had only two championships had the chase been implemented when he started. This proves that Jeff Gordon is awful when it comes to playoffs.
Dale Earnhardt is 3rd at the very least. If Jimmie Johnson wins an 8th title, he will undoubtably be the greatest ever.
I had Jimmie first and Brad said he also had Jimmie in sixth. Why Brad. And how is Dale Earnhardt 5th?????
1. JJ
2. Dale Sr.
3. Richard Petty
4. Jeff Gordon
5. David Pearson
Not even close Dale Earnhardt is way better than Jimmie Johnson
@@rcracer8872 no
The 3 drivers who have won 7 titles are in the top 5
I'm sorry, I know I am YEARS late to the party, but here's the case for Jeff over Dale.
They raced head to head for eight years. In those 8 years - which included Jeff's rookie season and not including the 1992 Hooters 500 and the 2001 Daytona 500 - the numbers OVERWHELMINGLY favor Jeff.
In those 8 seasons, Jeff won 52 times, Dale 23. Jeff had 129 top-5s and 166 Top-10s. Dale had 101 and 160. Jeff finished ahead of Dale in the points 5 of the 8 years, and won 3 titles to Dale's 2. Jeff won 33 poles, Dale won 9. Jeff led 10,708 laps to Dale's 5,751 - and Dale ran nearly 3,000 MORE laps than Jeff.
The only two areas where Dale led Jeff in those 8 years are average finish (10.7-11.7) and average points finish (3.75-5.25). And if you take out Jeff's rookie season of 93, Jeff actually averaged a SLIGHTLY better average finish (10.8-11.1) AND points finish (4.0-4.1).
I agree about the Jimmie Johnson thing, my dad and I were talking about it after the show and I asked if he got #8 would he got straight to number 1 and he said without a doubt yes.
Johnson is a three time champion w/o the chase. Honestly id have it Petty Pearson Earnhardt Gordon Johnson
5. Jeff Gordon
4. David Pearson
3.Jimmie Johnson
2. Dale Earnhardt
1.Richard Petty
THAT is how it should be
1. Petty
2. Earnhardt
3. Gordon
If the points system isn’t molested Gordon wins the 04, 07, and 14 championships. That’s not a lull, that’s over 20 years of pure dominance
Keep in mind that Tony Stewart has an IRL Championship and spent 4 or 5 years in Indy car. While this is a NASCAR list, keep in mind his career was shortened by a few seasons.
I would have put Johnson 5th, Dale Earnhardt 4th, Jeff Gordon 3rd, 2nd David Pearson, 1 Richard Petty. That's just my personal top 5.
I think those five guys and maybe Cale Yarbrough are sort of in a class by themselves at the top. Those guys were all just fantastic.
I don't put as much prestige in Johnson's championships because I don't put much prestige in Chase format. The Chase format is like Funko vinyl figures; some people like them and they can be fun sometimes but I personally don't see any value in them at all.
If the list was "Driver best at finishing in the Top 10" Earnhardt would be my number one.
...I thought Tim Flock was a little underrated at 20.
Would you ever consider doing a video of drivers that would be Champion under the old points leader format? at 9:32 it makes me think of that... I am almost certain? (I think) under the old format Jeff Gordon would have 7 championships all together.
Maybe do it as well with the old format Championships under the current format? that would be super interesting lol
Love the video but you're being slightly inconsistent with your views as well Eric. You say Gordon had a slump in his career but you're forgetting that Dale Earnhardt from 97-00 Earnhardt had 6 wins. Inlcuding a winless 97 and a one win 98. In Jeff Gordons final 4 years he had 8 wins and a title run (much like Earnhardt). Im just saying that Earnhardt didnt have an extremely consistent career. There were a couple dud seasons in his career too
But earnhardt won 7 Titles DUE TO CONSISTENCY. 97 was a horrible season because of his horrible wreck, 98 was just a meh season (despite his daytona 500) And his 1987 and 1990 Seasons were Insane
Harvick would easily climb this list now.
I can tell you why Gordon is ahead of Earnhardt Sr. If they kept the Winston Cup points format Gordon has 8-10 championships, with 93 wins in a more competitive area is big. And if every thing goes right for Gordon and Pearson Gordon would have more wins then him
proper top 5
5. Jeff Gordon
4. David Pearson
3. Jimmie Johnson
2. Dale Earnhardt
1. Richard Petty
id honestly consider putting johnson slightly lower in the top 5 just because if the chase didn’t exist he would have significantly less championships (im pretty sure it’d only be 2) all the other guys did it without the crutch of the chase
My top 5 would’ve been:
5. Gordon
4. JJ
3. Earnhardt
2. Pearson
1. Petty
I put Pearson at 2 because he only raced 4 whole seasons and in 3 of those he won the championship. Won 105 races in 574 starts with 301 top 5s and 366 top 10s. Earnhardt and JJ have 7 championships a piece, and JJ will likely move up the win list. Maybe even get the 8th championship? But, this is how I see it right now.
Great video! Can you plz go back to the signups video from season 2 and tell me the music! Thx :D
Top 5 should have been:
1. Richard Petty
2. Dale Earnhardt
3. Jimmie Johnson
4. Jeff Gordon
5. David Pearson
Mark Martin shouldn't be ahead of Dale Jarrett, Dale Jarrett has 2 championships in 3 Daytona 500 wins. I thought they all said they was going to put more weight on championships.
1 is a toss up between Earhardt and Petty. 3 is Jeff gordon because he is a driver who kinda got screwed by the playoff system and is the one of the most consistent drivers. 4 is pearson. 5 Is Jimmie barely because the championships but not at top 3 driver because of the playoff series.