Not exactly a change that would better the show completely, but I have an episode idea as an experiment to see if the audience likes it more or less than the past couple of episodes: I'd make one episode with an alien from classic who (that isn't as well known or remembered) and then decide what the Doctor's role is based on who the alien is (either him helping them or being their enemy and trying to convince them otherwise or fight them off). The plot could go a couple ways: the Doctor finds them on Earth and is 1: helping them by either getting them off of Earth or helping them figure out a way to stay for whatever reason, or 2: trying his best to make them leave without any violence or death. The conflict could be multiple things as well: their ship crashed on Earth (I'm rather inclined to stay away from them trying to take over Earth at the moment), humans feel threatened by them either because of their looks, mannerisms, technology, weapons, fear of the unknown, or all of the above, the aliens themselves can't stay for long because the Earth's atmosphere is killing them, the aliens have with them something that could kill everything on Earth (or whatever planet they are on) if they don't leave in time, the Doctor stumbles upon them is either trying his best to get away from them or explain why they should let him go, etc. Happy ending: aliens leave without harming anyone (either because they were good from the start, all they needed was help and didn't care for anything else, or the Doctor was successful in convincing them to not do anything). Neutral ending: the aliens leave, but not after someone dies and/or the Doctor has to get serious and aggressive in order to make them leave. Bad ending: the aliens get killed by the humans because of their fear, the Doctor is too late and the aliens die, or the Doctor is forced to kill a great many of them in order to make them leave. (Sorry that this was incredibly long)
Paul McGann in his own series, even if limited in scope, would be an amazing thing to behold. You see the work he did in the Night of the Doctor, and it’s clear he would’ve been regarded as one of the best doctors ever cast if he had his chance in a series.
@@HowardThomas-g9h Yes! There's actually a series of novels that allow fans to see a pretty good direction for his version. I'd love to see him with more screen time.
He has actually done a dozen seasons of stories with Big Finish in audio play format, and he is a fantastic doctor. That's why he was good in Night of the Doctor, by that point he had been playing the Doctor non stop for the previous decade.
@@lesigh1749 the problem with Big Finish (even if you can find them on Spotify), is that a lot of not english talking fans could find those audios hard to follow. They could take some of those stories and make them animated series...
I wish he got atlest one season but I feel like of he's show was made we would have gotten completely different verisons of the modern doctors 14 probley wouldn't have been a returning doctor
I’ve had to explain to several people this week about how shows like Addams Family were 65 eps for TWO seasons. I Love Lucy had like FORTY EPS A SEASON. Those actors were working almost every week and “reruns” had not been invented yet. And for you kids, “reruns” are what we called repeating episodes when they scaled back down to about 22-24 episodes a season (1970-90s) and they had to fill time slots all year round, save holiday events and sportsings. They literally reran the previous season’s episodes to fill air time so it was on literally every week. Only in the 1990s did they expand programs for “summer fillers” which might catch on, but don’t get excited for them. Heath Ledger was in the summer filler series Roar, introducing him to American viewers. A lucky few went on to full series, like NBC’s SouthLand, a six ep LAPD show filler which got renewed for s2, then cancelled while filming. Contracts demanded NBC let them finish the second six, and it took a full year for TNT to pick it up, air the second season, then green light three more seasons of ten eps.
It's a bigger problem than they're letting on... Disney aren't going to commit to a third season unless s2 is a vast improvement, but it can't be better having been created at the same time with the same lack of talent.
I am hoping thats not the case. But maybe as DW fans we expect more of Davis than is actually the case. But maybe not. The first year of most shows is not its best. This is essentially a new partnership of many parties, Disney, new writers, returning but also new show-runner, new actors. I have hope.
That maybe true but S1 being badly handled actually damages the prospects for S2. Choosing a weak story as the debut of the season and casting an actor you KNOW will have miss half of the filming are bizarre choices. Ncuti Gatwa is a breath of fresh air and does a wonderful Doctor but all this is hurting his era. RTD has ZERO excuse. He ran Doctor Who for five years. If he and others were new to Doctor Who or less experienced to TV? They'd have an excuse but they've had decades of experience. And yes, this is a different era and media landscape, but common sense is still common sense isn't it?
@@GetheS SO not only did SHitty gatwa cause the filming issue he turned the whole show as g*y as fuck and destroyed the remainder of the sh*tpile that was left by Chibnall. God forbid they need to just can this mess and let moffat have a go at renewing it. Its currently not worth the pain on my retinas
Definitely less crying, i don't have anything against the Doctor showing Emotion...but this was a bit much. I think he cried in every single episode to some degree
Yeah. In Boom it was understandable given the immense amount of pressure he was under. Same with having to let Ruby go so that she's able to live with her family without fear of her dying on an adventure and leaving her family with no resolution or rest in terms of how she disappeared and died other than the Doctor directly saying to Carla that he broke the promise. However, it felt a bit much for a lot of other instances. I wanted to see a wider range of emotions out of 15 given how seemingly his mind's been a bit more uncluttered and de-stressed from his time as 14. The quiet rage from his help being refused by the Finetimers was definitely impactful to see, and his small speech to Paul about how music could be better and how it could move people rather than just being so-so melodic noises was just lovely to hear. Hopefully season 2/series 15 shows more variety in his expressed emotions.
Yea, it completely put me off, like you really don't have to cry all the time man. I preferred it when the Doctor was a bit more stoic and angry, the doctors rage is something to behold
I would loved to see it when he realized Bill was killed but his anger then taking over. He knows he will outlive his companions but the method should cause him pain, otherwise he is a sociopath. Empathy is a defining factor of The Doctor. An immortal being must be able to identify with the mortal ones or he becomes useless.
Something I just realized as I was watching this is They established in star beast that unit is used to seeing the doctors out of order, they were treating 14 like he was 10 until he told them otherwise It’d be really cool if they explored this more in the land and the sea, we could see how unit works with different doctors out of order
Imagine 9 or 12 or even 8 came back I think I'd be so much more exited if it was 8 Imagine near the end of the first season we think its gonna be 15 then pops out 8 the one thing that'd be bad is they'd probably have to change he's tardis a bit
@Aurora_Lightbringer they have disneys budget now and Disney can defiantly use cgi to dee age a actor and they've done it louds of times and just made some dumb stuff excuse
'Doctor, I let you go' 12 starts to regenerate only to stop a few seconds later. 'Well actually that seems like a lot of good reasons not to regenerate. Thank you wildly creative yet mortally terrifying imagination.' *Dies* ... OOO WEEEE WOOOO
Hey, if they could retcon the Doctor having a human mom Or basically sabotaging the mystery of the Doctor…… I could see them doing a drastic change as that
Honestly, to fix both the issue of two Doctor-light episodes in one go and the issue of the first episode needing to be an Event™, I would've redone the order like this: The Church on Ruby Road (obviously) Boom (with Ruby learning to trust the Doctor despite having just met them) Dot and Bubble (where we see them working together as a team) Rogue (they've been a team but how well does the Doctor recognise his companion?) 73 Yards (having to cope without the Doctor and living with the misunderstanding from Rogue, which could've been much more impactful this way and would've added to that conflict that was missing) Space Babies (a nice light-hearted mid-season break) The Devil's Chord (maybe Ruby tells the Doctor about the 73 Yards thing and that she was hurt by the misunderstanding in Rogue and they're trying to make it up to her by seeing the Beatles?) The Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death (again obviously, plus I feel like it would've affected me more personally to go straight from Maestro to Sutekh rather than having basically the entire season in between) Idk just a preliminary sort of thing but i feel like that would've made the season flow better for me personally (although i did absolutely love it nonetheless)
Enough crying! In the entire classic series, the Doctor cried only ONE time, when Jo Grant left…and it was one tear. He didn’t even cry when Adria died!
Not quite! Tom Baker’s 4th Doctor during the “do I have the right?” speech as he’s about to touch the 2 wires together he has a few tears streaming down his face but then he’s literally on the verge of committing genocide so you can understand that!
@@matthewhegarty2873 genocide is wiping all the daleks out.... all he is doing is destroying the current incubator room. There are.. I think 4 active daleks plus davros at this point. To completely wipe out the daleks he would have to kill the remaining daleks plus davros. Otherwise with davros active, the guy builds another incubator room
@@matthewhegarty2873 that and it was his 10th take? Which was UNHEARD of to be allowed multiple takes. People were freakin tired of standing around delivering the same lines only to have to do it again and again. It might of been tears of pain at that point! :)
It's really annoying, because 15 crying did work in a few episodes but damn the frequency of it was frustrating. I'm fine with it but only in moderation. I think the lower episode count is also to blame for how dumb it feels. I mean, 8 episodes where he crys in at least 6 of them sucks in my opinion. If it was even just a 10 episode season, where you remove the unnecessary crys and only keep the Boom, Dot and Bubble Rogue, and Legend of Ruby Sunday ones. 4 episodes out of 10. That's frequent and borders on ridiculous but isn't as bad. I understand 13 episodes being too much to make each year, 14 including the Christmas special, but 10, 11 including Christmas should probably be the aim. That's the main positive I have for Jodie's era, the series were shorter but they didn't FEEL short. Doctor Who felt like it was around for a while, but Ncuti's season 1 felt like it was barely present. 10 episodes with 1 doctor lite for production conflicts and 1 low stakes budget & production friendly episode would be great
Like, damn, 8 full force normal episodes, one doctor lite bottle epsiode and one cheaper standalone adventure. Keeps things a little fresh and maintains a 2.5 month doctor who phase instead of Season 1's 5 weeks, under half of the original runtime. Kinda sucks
Solution 1 RTD needs to go. Once he was the king of Doctor who and the shows return. Sadly now he has lost his way Solution 2 listen to the fans it’s this simple
"The fans" are not one voice. What you probably mean by that, subconsciously or not, is "listen to and act on MY opinion". I knew exactly this would happen. RTD's return was overly glorified as people completely sugarcoat his first run as "the good old times" - completely forgetting that they and their taste have changed over time
@ absolute nonsense take Cobra Kai for instance. The series is written by 3 life long fans. They show respect to the original source material from the films and incorporate it into the series. Giving you a smash hit series Ghostbusters afterlife written by the original directors son who again showed huge respect to the original 2 ghostbusters films. New what the fans wanted and delivered a dam good film RTD came back with Disney which isn’t the best of starts with all the woke nonsense. Destroyed the character of Davros after 50 years all in the name of inclusiveness. Brought ridiculous song n dance numbers into the series, made the Doctor gay, again just another PC tick box exercise. Gatwa and RTD attacked the fan base before the new series came out and look what happened 🤣 worst viewing figures in the history of the shows 60 years So what I mean is don’t piss the fan base off as it’s us fans who keep franchises alive I’ve been a fan since the mcoy era and have to say the last series we got was absolute rubbish. Nothing but pandering to a minority of the fandom
@ the fan base is what keeps any franchise alive Don’t attack them don’t disrespect them listen to what fans want and you will be fine. Unfortunately the show now has the lowest ratings ever lol way to go RTD and Garwa it’s your own doing Take cobra Kai tv series and ghostbusters afterlife movie. Both of them respect the original source material and it shows in the finished product What RTD has done is force todays craziness into the show. Destroyed a characters legacy all in the name of inclusiveness Davros. Forced gender nonsense made the Doctor gay just for the fun of it and again to be inclusive What fans want is good writing again get back to doctor who as we know it not some woke piece of shit it has become I’ve been a fan since the mcoy era and the dark days so well within my rights to have a rant
@@MydieLyThat’s pure BS. It’s the fans that keep a show/series alive. Look at what happened with Sonic. The creative ppl LISTENED to the fans, they made the changes and they were gifted with praise and most importantly, our money.
@@DoodleThis yes, and there is a LOT of fans who didn't think RTD was the Second Coming and thus had no issues with what he did this time around. Because they remembered all the "swing and miss" stuff RTD did back then. He was not perfect then, he's not perfect now.
Yeah, the constant crying really put me off this Doctor. I get that they’re trying to send the message that it’s okay for men to express their feelings, but it was way too much. For me, it’s not that the frequency lessens the impact, I just don’t think it’s something a hero character should constantly be doing. Imagine if Steve Rogers cried every time something bad happened in the MCU; you wouldn’t be able to take the character seriously anymore. And what’s worse is that it looks so fake. It’s always ONE single tear running down his face, clearly put there by the makeup department.
Completely agree with the "less crying" suggestion. In my opinion, one of the Doctor's greatest advantages in a situation is presenting themself to be in control of the situation or masking how much it's really affecting them at the moment. Having the Doctor show what they're feeling right then and there can work at times, but it also makes them seem very vulnerable and overwhelmed by what's happening, which can obviously be used against them.
Make the doctor important with him actually having an effect on the characters and helping to resolve issues. The majority of the time, he didn't play a big part in saving others and was the one getting saved a lot.
Critics of Moffatt's era talk of the Doctor becoming 'Space Jesus'. Certainly, the development of him as a literally universally known and feared godlike figure was at odds with Eccleston's Doctor, who shocked various characters by revealing he was Gallifreyan ("we thought you were all dead / a myth"). They were clearly unaware of the Doctor and his "reputation". Clive, the internet nerd in "Rose," described a shadowy figure drifting into historical events in the background, an observer, like the Time Lords before him. By the "End of Time," he again raised religious parallels by literally rising from his cage / tomb and forgiving the Master. Forgiveness being the central tenet of the Gospels. Another reason why the "Timeless Child nonsense should be ditched/ retconned as a fantasy of the Master, long established as an unhinged liar and master of deception
@@mayotango1317 That doesn't mean the Master can't be mistaken or mislead. An easy fix is to have it be a manipulation on Tecteun's part to get rid of the Doctor and the Time Lords in one fell swoop and leaving her free to create the Flux.
When I look back on this snow season, I treat "The church on Ruby Road" as the season 1 premiere because it did what Space babies just didn’t. Introduced a companion, a new doctor, gave us a fun and engaging high octane adventure and set up the series going forward. Space Babies was a classic weird Doctor Who second adventure you’d get midway through a series.
The Doctor was their most powerful when they carried the guilt, the hurt, the pain. I was so hopeful for 15 but the everything isn't strong. It's not emotional enough, tears aren't emotion in the way they're currently used. But it's the wardrobe that Really disappoints. Iconic. Instantly recognisable even as a silhouette... Well until now. I don't understand why, 60 years of rarely altering, suddenly costumes and wardrobes galore.... For me it's really lost an iconography there. Also I hate to say it but I don't like the new Tardis, I like the much smaller control room, it's more cosy, more good for the set to me and character interaction. It's worse than 13s and that's saying something.
I'm glad the excessive crying is addressed here. Especially for the Doctor, the story telling technique of having the character cry should be used sparingly. The times when Tennant and Smith cried made those moments more special. Gatwa's Doctor cried too much and it diminished his emotional journey, aka if everything is special, than nothing is special. It also made 15 a bit of a hypocrite when he told 14 that he was more emotionally stable and that 14 should get healing. With the excessive crying 15 seemed like he was actually worse off than 14.
crying is a healthy emotional outlet. just because you cry a lot and aren’t afraid to express your pain doesn’t mean you’re not stable lmao compare the times 15 cried vs when 10 went on a power trip/started yelling in frustration and anger. i’m sure 10 losing his grip on himself and reason as a whole outnumbers 15’s crying.
Adding Classic Doctor Who onto Disney Plus would be a good bonus, especially for Australian subscribers as that era isn't being streamed anywhere there. Not since it was removed from Britbox Australia the day after the Disney+ distribution deal was made official.
I wasn't aware of the staggered release times. But my thoughts are almost exactly yours on the crying. Not every episode and definitely not when he should be acting or, at least, planning. And having a central streaming location for all eras of the show definitely makes sense.
Only two tweaks needed... have everything that has happened since the Master held 13 captive in the Matrix be fabricated, have Jodie escape finally but require a regeneration... and then start fresh with good writing, with all that nonsense gone for good!
Anyone else remember when Ellie and Sean were stanning crazy for Space Babies but now they’ve flipped 180 about it. I remember them loving it whilst I was thinking “what the heck are you talking about?!” And I didn’t say heck.
I watched the series. My brother, a more casual viewer, watched Space Babies and the Devil's Chord and could not be persuaded to watch any more as a result. That I knew that the mighty Moffat was writing the next one kept me going. But my heart goes out to all those who paid for a midnight launch of this series in cinemas and got Space Babies! I'm glad not to have missed Boom, Dot and Bubble and 73 Yards. The rest - not so sure. And that these tended to be Doctor lite may not be a coincidence. I may be alone in disliking the super popular Gatwa but he seems ill equipped to take the role. Maybe if he had directly followed the Chibnall series he would have looked better by contrast, but compared with any other New Who Doctors (other than Whittaker?) he is poor. And as to the writing of his role, a Doctor that simply cruises humans for a bit of strange (gay or straight), as in Rogue, is not a Doctor I recognise as in any way related to previous Doctors. I gave up on Chibnall. Unless something really changes I think I may again.
The pattern of the past seven years is that I tried giving it a chance several times but,while it probably have had redeeming features that I therefore passed on,the sheer awfulness of the mis-steps in the script made me switch over to watch something else after just a few minutes. My initial impression of NG was that he could be engaging in the role,but I lost any sympathy for him and RTD since they started dissing the existing fanbase for having an opinion that wasn't obsequious to theirs.
I know people seem to dislike the constant use of classic who villains (Daleks, Angels, Cybermen) but if they have the finales and premieres being episodes about them, not only are they explosively exciting but they also attract new fans who recognise the big villains.
Those were "good" episodes? Really? The bar keeps going lower and lower. How can you compare that drek to some of the best episodes of the Eccleston, Tenent (first run) or Smith series? And I'm not even touching on the the classic series.
I liked the devils chord, boom, 73 yards, dot and bubble,the legend of ruby rose, and half of empire of death 🤷♀️🤷♀️ there’s a fair few of Matt smiths I skip tbh. They definitely aren’t on the same level as some of Chris Christopher’s or David’s. But I still would most definitely watch “73 yards”, “dot and bubble” and “boom” multiple times.
When it comes to getting new writers, they need to be passionate about the show and characters rather than cramming ideologies down audiences' throats. Give me more things like The Doctor Falls whhere we get to see the Doctor on a truly grounded level and brought back to basics; we need the Doctor to be someone who is willing to do as much as physically and mentally possible for things as simple as saving a few children. Also, new writers need to be told _not_ to make the Doctor abandon his friends so he can hump random strangers.
That last bit - in what is ostensibly first and foremost a children's show that was also popular with adults with a large family audience? Really? I once read a particular cutting review of the London stage performance of a well-known TV sitcom of yesteryear,in which the parting swipe was "not suitable for adults or children." It seems like the same may be true of the current Dr Who in that case.
The job of companion is to translate the Doctor's alieness for the audience. Make the Doctor too human and you lose that dynamic. That's half the drama gone right there.
@@MarionBaggins yes thats completely true, but there were aspects that reminded us of his alien. The time lord victorious arc, lots of guilt from the time war, a god complex. His human was to conceal his god complex as the last timelord from overtaking. Not to mention David Tennant is a brilliant actor, he made the human doctor work, bravo.
US resident - I found it VERY weird that they did midnight releases of a family show. Instead of growing the audience, they handicapped their selves by alienating the main audience.
The whole point about character friction is spot on. I watched the last two episodes with the UNIT team and noticed how everyone was so friendly and all got on so well. No drama, no friction or conflict. Was an absolute bore
I think it was Barry Letts who wanted seasons to open with a bang and, if you look at the four he oversaw, they all had an 'opening night' charge about them. Interesting that Graham Williams never really gets credited for starting the 'Series Finale' (or even 'Series Arc') thing.
Arguably, Barry Letts created a prototype for the "Series Arc" in Pertwee's second season. The "Master Arc", if you like... he features in every story and the season ends with his arrest in The Dæmons. As a season closer, The Dæmons even feels like a modern "high stakes" finale, as it brings all the regulars together against a foe with the power to destroy the world.
Season 3 hasn't even started filming yet. They shot season 1 and 2 back to back. Season 1 released, with awful viewership numbers, then they canned season 3, it might start filming in 2025. Also, the film crew have apparently quit, mentioning that Dr who (new Dr who) has ruined their careers, no one else wants to hire them.
This might be an unpopular opinion but imo RTD isn't that great at writing sci-fi, his early seasons only were so popular and loved because most of the modern audience don't exactly have a reference point for a good time traveling sci-fi storyline. Moffat's time as a showrunner sure did have its downs, but his overall seasonal arc storylines were more unique and clever
Completely agree! The companion is a window for the viewers. The Doctor explains something to the companion, he's actually explaining it to the audience. If he's keeping the companion in the dark, he's actually keeping the viewers in the dark. We want to slap the Doctor, the companion slaps the Doctor. The companion needs to be a representation of the viewer.
You haven't missed much. I was so looking forward to Ncuti and RTD, as I was a fan of both. They have let me down, this isn't the programme I loved since I watched Ian and Barbara burst into the Tardis in 1963. Never thought I would say this, but it's actually worse that Chibnall's era
If you enjoyed everything (or mostly everything) up to that point you should give it a go as you're missing out. I loved Jodi as the doctor but not so much the stories. Quality is definitely back up quite a bit, apart from space babies which I enjoyed but it was definitely not the high point. If you didn't enjoy Jodi and before, well definitely don't bother.
Personally I still recommend watching the David Tennant specials at least once. The Star Beast is pretty hit or miss but the other two are really good. The Giggle is basically flawless... all the way up until the "regeneration" sequence and then the following game of catch during what was supposed to be the climax of the episode -.- Wild Blue Yonder is fantastic though.
Yeah... the majority of Ncuti Gatwa's first season being the Doctor left me feeling 'What the heck did I just watch?'... and '73 yards' was one of the worst. I won't diss Ncuti's acting, but when you read an interview where it describes someone as being 'a clothes horse', it kind of implies they only got the job because they looked good. Which, if you think about it, isn't what Dr Who is all about. Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I like my stories to be proper stories, not the mess almost every episode of Ncuti's season 1 was. So one thing they can do is go back to good old basics for the writing, and write proper stories, stories that have clear beginnings, middles and endings. Nor should they all have content which pushes the personal agendas of writers and show-runners every single time. The more you shove such things in your audience's faces, the more you will polarise the audience, to the point where those who are tired of it will switch off, and all you'll be left with is the niche audience you've been trying to promote. I hate to say it, but unless the Christmas Special shows its moving away from agenda based material, i won't be bothering with DW any more until it does...
i liked Space Babies a lot ;) i was so afraid they lost their stupidness and i was sceptical with too much new stuff. Seeing them taking care about babies in space wasnt a season opener by any means but it was a look back at silly times i missed
Have not just all modern Who in one place but all Who entirely, classic and modern. If I want to watch modern Who I have to have HBO Max and Disney Plus. And if I want to watch classic Who I need BritBox or Amazon Prime with the Britbox add-on. And they wonder why people resort to extralegal means to obtain their entertainment. Because nobody wants to have to pay for three, or even four, different subscriptions just to watch ONE tv show! Also, yes, 100% agree, less crying. I love that the Doctor shows emotion. I love how vibrant and just ALIVE Ncuti's Doctor is, and he absolutely should keep being that way. But if something is going to make even the Doctor cry, then it should be something HUGE. The Doctor shedding tears should be a signal of something incredibly meaningful and impactful. When the Doctor cries in almost every episode, it lessens the impact. Like the Daleks seeming less and less terrifying with each defeat, the crying seems less and less important with each repetition.
I´m from Argentina. I watched modern Who thanks to the argentinian Fans Club web. Not sure if it´s still open. I´d love to have, at least NuWho on D+. It can be Max too, no problem...
What did the Doctor actually do? He cried, left his companion to die while he tried to arrange a booty call, and watched while everyone else saved the day. Did he save the people in Dot and Bubble? No. Did he save Ruby in Rogue? No. Plus the stories (and that's dignifying them) made no sense. The dot system decides to wipe out all the people. Why? Don't know. They (it?) do this by genetically engineering giant slugs. Why? Don't know. The dots, made to be worn, can levitate and fly at supersonic speeds like a bullet. Why? Guess. And if they can use themselves to shoot people, again why the slugs. Sutekh defeated because he wants to know Ruby's origin story. For WHAT REASON? Killing him by putting him on a lead and taking him walkies - the same moronic sense of humour that wrote a 50 minute story as a set up for a fart joke (yes, you RTD). Oh, and a creature living on the outside of the Tardis as it flies through the time vortex - being killed by exposure to the time vortex. See why this whole season resulted in the lowest viewing figures of all time (until next year, when I'm sure that will be beaten)? Why the two least watched episodes in history were this year? Why 200,000 viewers turned of in the 30 seconds between the first and second episodes?
Not just more new writers, but also more Moffat. Moffat has produced so many all-time episodes with RTD as showrunner. But what you said about RTD focusing more on showrunning than individual episodes is spot on.
That was such a lovely and fair critique of Gatwa his first season. I disliked where the previous doctor was too emotional or overwhelmed. Its seemed unfair. And a writing error. Why would she be like that when Tennant, Smith, Capaldi would have it all figured out. The new doctor has some elements of that, and some of the older doctors. Which is great. But it needs to be written in a way that fitst well with his previously seen incarnations. Which a new twist. I hope they get this right. Sadly DW gets a lot of hate and resistance now. Somehow unneeded seeing its history. I want more DW, always. But with D+ involved, having pumped in more money, we are at risk of the show getting cancelled at some point. Disney isnt in a good place (by their own fault). As Doctor Who fans we know a secondhand suit, some shoestring , ductape and a painted backdrop can lead to some great tv. Because we neer great acting and storytelling and nothing more. In that regard DW can and should be the savior of Disney plus in relation to Netflix. We dont need 7 million usd budgets, we need great stories. The new season had some of that. Also, lacked some of it. 47 yards was a great episode though. Possibly one of my favorites.
You made many great points in this video, but the single most important one was having the Doctor Who catalog of older episodes available in one place in the US. I happen to subscribe to all three services featuring Doctor Who, but I'm already a fan. So, for me it's not a huge deal to switch to BritBox to watch classic Who, then Max to get my new Who fix. However, it *IS* a pain to do so and I'd be much more likely to marathon Doctor Who if I could watch all my favorite episodes on one service. For new viewers of Doctor Who, they aren't going to go subscribe to two other services to see all the Who content. They may not even be aware there is more content. Disney+ is the logical choice to host all of them here, but it probably won't happen.
Agree with a lot of what has been said…but for me, more episodes is needed. We just “accepted” the reduction from 13 to 8 over the years but we really shouldn’t have. Yes I’m glad Doctor Who is still going and always grateful for the show to be on the air, I’ll always support it because it’s wonderful BUT could you imagine if the new season had 13 like it’s supposed to be, how much better it could have been? I do feel like the finale was rushed and we need more but yes, if we have 8 episode seasons then the doctor has to feature in all of them not 5 or 6 of them ALL of them.
I'm wondering if they're doing S2 reshoots at the moment - RTD has been posting multiple pictures of himself on the TARDIS set over the past couple of weeks on his Instagram. I suppose one thing about the delayed release of S2 is they have plenty of time to tweak and adjust the episodes to get them right, even if they were largely filmed right after the S1 eps.
Along with Rogue, which seems equally despised. Cheap ripoff of Bridgerton. What next, the Doctor meets Charlie and Nick from Heartstopper? Or better, Otis (Sex Ed). Eric was the Timeless Child all along.....
I do want to see the SJA and Class characters back to wrap up their storylines. But otherwise we need spinoffs that aren't limited to modern Earth adventures. I'm not sure the time of year impacts the viewing figures. I personally pefer not to have to sit through ten minutes of strictly before Doctor Who. Honestly when it comes to Doctor/Companion friction Jodie really suffered due to the lack of conflict and criticism. Especially when a terrible scene could've been saved by the companions calling the Doctor out on her BS
I don't mind having the doctor open and emotional but I would prefer a focus back on just a "traveler and a box" mordern who has this horrible status quo that won't let the doctor move on as a character "I'm the god of light" thing has been an issue since late Tennants era too. Theres defo a few things that need changing.
Most important: The Doctor needs to be The Doctor again. Whatever that was they gave us wasn't it. He needs to be an eccentric, not a fashion model. Somewhere between Father Christmas and your favorite crazy uncle. He can NOT be "hollywood attractive." He has to look a bit strange. He has to dress a bit strange, and he should have a single defining look, which should not be off the rack mall clothes or random whatever to fit this week's "concept." And stop having him crying all the time. I can only assume they have him do that because he has absolutely no character at all otherwise. He is a human bookmark right now. This is where the main character would go if we had one. What an utter and complete failure. Fix that or nothing else matters.
You didn't mention my biggest issue with the new series. It's way too fantasy. It seems like over half the new episodes are written like episodes of the x files or the twilight zone instead of doctor who
Spinoff pitch: The wilderness years with a Zygon in a crashed ship gets memory loss after impersonating the head of UNIT/Torchwood. Have the zygon twist end episode 1 with them just as confused as us. Have a more adult Battlestar Galactica/The Americans feel with the zygon torn between humans and zygons while trying to find morality (and rhe possibility of heroism) in a world where The Doctor is seen as dead.
Agree with a lot of what was said here. Sadly I don't see any of it happening. There's no one in the right position to say these things to Russell, Disney, or the BBC. Even if there was so much water has passed under the bridge at this point it will take something Massive to change direction right now. Especially as the second season is already in the can and with a third yet to be commissioned it looks like we're going to have a large gap between 2 and 3.
Make the timeless child the Master and stop having him cry every episode. Oh yes and stop adding the over sexualizing of the Doctor. Its wildly inappropriate.
I just want MORE EPISODES, not just 10 or 12. It is not unrealistic to have a 16 to 24 episode seasons, especially for doctor who. The only thing holding any of it back is these dtreaming services who think 8 is enough. FLUX and this new era season 1 have proved it is not. Thats all i want, at the very least, 13+ episodes a season + specials.
I thought 15's reaction to learning it was Sutekh he was dealing with was spot on. He knows how powerful the Ossirians were, having commented when he was Four that they were more powerful than the Time Lords, who no longer existed to be able to help reign in this one all powerful being.
A Susan/Romana spin-off series after BOTH Carole-Ann Ford and Lalla Ward return to Doctor Who for pre-regeneration swansong episodes before new actresses take over the roles. "Derry Girls" star Nicola Coughlin will be appearing in the Christmas Special, I would offer the role of the regenerated Romana to her co-star and who was the lead actress in "Derry Girls", Saorise-Monica Jackson, with "DC's Legends of Tomorrow" star Amy Pemberton as the regenerated Susan. "Marvel's Agent Peggy Carter" star Hayley Atwell would be another good shout to play either character. I also wouldn't mind seeing David Tennant and Catherine Tate guest star in the pilot episode where both Doctors gift Susan and Romana the Tardis disguised as an oak tree. That's my suggestion anyway.
Personally I think seeing the doctor cry brings out another layer of depth to the character. I agree it was possibly overdone during the course of season 1, but in episodes like Boom, and Dot and Bubble, seeing the doctor cry brought out more of the doctors emotional response to difficult situations and ncuti's performance for me has been incredible! Thanks Who Culture! 😊😊
@@Ferst60 she has clarified a lot that the problem is that him crying in every single episode and they making a big deal out of it every single episode makes it annoying, overdone and not impactful at all.
the crying doesn't bother me! i don't love him freezing up, though -- but he could cry while having his action/smart scenes, like in boom he cried but kept moving. but totally agree on the friction. amy was easy to buy into because in episode 2 she went against the doctor and caused him to both curse humanity and then to remember why he's not God. most of the companions have moments like that, and ruby deserved hers.
15:20 Talking about discussions between the Doctor and Ruby, I really wish we’d seen scenes across the season where they bonded over their shared connection as foundling adoptees, opening up about their different adoption experiences and feelings on not knowing anything about their birth family, that was one of the things I was most looking forward to after The Church on Ruby Road, but in Season 1 they never actually spoke about it together.
The foundling thing is vomit inducing and rubs the audience face in the fact that yes, he has kept his buddy Chinballs appalling half baked backstory retcon in play. The show has been on life support ever since the Timeless child was introduced, it is the shows Kryptonite, its a really bad idea to want more of it.
@@lesigh1749 It’s really not vomit inducing at all. Look, I understand disliking the origin of regeneration aspect of the Timeless Child, but speaking as an adoptee myself, the Doctor being a foundling adoptee not from Gallifrey fits with the Doctor’s character and the canon of the show.
@@lesigh1749 The Doctor being revealed as a foundling and adoptee builds on the Doctor’s character as they’re always been an adoptee coded character. It doesn’t ruin the Doctor’s character in anyway. - Abandonment and Separation Trauma✅ - Has a deep need to feel wanted by adopting other people✅ - Felt out of place on Gallifrey and lacked a secure sense of belonging amongst the Gallifreyans✅ This all fits with the lived experience of an adoptee.
@@Jamezevans123 No, it doesnt build on anything. It deletes, removes and replaces the canon about the character that had slowly built over decades of stories and puts instead some half baked Mary sue fanfiction that the Doctor was always special, the most special of special beings. it erases the Timelords as never having mattered, it removes Hartnell's significance as the original Doctor and it resets the whole shows reality to a blank slate with no real rules, onto which you must trust talentless egotistical alphabet fairies like Chinballs and RTD to create a better story than the one they just burned to the ground. And your checklist really says a bit too much about yourself . Most audiences aren't interested in exploring anxiety and emotional trauma themes as entertainment.
There are probably points for Ruby to be interrogating the Doctor; During the ending of Sutek is not one if them. Don't do friction just for the sake of friction.
Oh jeez its DrWhoFanJ at it again. An entity no one asked for or listens too with his reparative nonsense. Plenty have said exactly what happyslapsgiving. Just cause your in denial that so many regard this current tenure as the worst it's been is your problem to cope with not those you disagree with you. So find your brain yours is MIA
They don't need new viewers or more writers. They need to look back at season 2, 3 and 4, and figure out what they did right back then and then do that.
I really did think it would be great having Russell T Davis back after he wrote An English Scandal and It's a Sin since leaving Doctor Who for the first time but it hasn't worked out like that whether that's his fault or the BBC policy I'm not sure.
100% of what you said was right on target. My husband and I are US New Who viewers - we literally watch one or two episodes of Doctor Who every night, and when we get done, we start the series over again. It's like our wind down show. We were very disappointed with season 1, for many of the reasons that you suggested. We watched your commentaries after each episode, and almost always agree with your reviews. Hopefully, Doctor Who sees your suggestions!!!
Yeah, I will always maintain that for an ongoing TV series, anything less than 10 episodes in a season is just too short to be satisfying!! I think we felt this with both Doctor Who and House of the Dragon this year. Less episodes can work fine for a limited series (which are essentially self-contained long movies anyway). But, for a proper ongoing TV series that needs to address events from previous seasons and/or set-up plans for future seasons alongside telling the current season's storyline... it's just foolish to try to do it in less than 10.
We’ve seen the Sea Devils three times total in the show’s 60 year run. I think having a mini series about the Sea Devils and their conflicts with humanity is a good spin-off to start with because it’s not a fan wank series-it’s something that new viewers and fans of Doctor Who can both tune into this show. Who wants to watch the adventures of 70 yr old Nyssa as the first start to this new universe? What new viewers would be interested in a show about Matt Smith’s Doctor on Trenzalore. You need to look at the show both as a fan, but also as a business enterprise that is striving to expand its horizons. You’re complaining about a show that hasn’t even had a trailer out yet, saying “we need bigger and better” but you don’t even know how big it is! Not every show needs to immediately be a space opera
Wait! Did I just hear Ellie say "The Church on Ruby Road" was one of the strongest outings this era? I'm of this opinion myself, I really love this episode, but last I heard, Ellie ranked it at the bottom right? Or am I tripping?
The problem with Casting a Black Man as the Doctor is that there is no way realistically that when he travels to an era where Black Slavery is at an all-time high, he won't be captured. They need to go all in here.
This is why Human Nature worked so well. Martha was never likely to be accepted as a nurse, never mind a doctor in that era. Domestic service was the best job a black person could expect. Maybe in Shakespeare's time, pre Empire, she would be seen as a foreign visitor, like a French or Dutch woman, rather than a black woman and a subject of the British. Today those episodes would be dismissed as "woke," but they accurately (or as accurately as possible, given we know little of 16th century attitudes) portray the social makeup of Britain in previous times
They skip over itvin the same way when they travel to times and places that white slavery is prevalent or that, usually the companions, attire would be inappropriate, am sure it works something like the ability to speak and understand alien languages, you are there not in chains therefore not a slave no need to ask. In the event of having to provide proof then psychic paper to the rescue.
I like the idea of new writers, however, I was very under-whelmed by the writers during the Jodie Whittaker episodes. So if they do bring in new writers, they need to make sure that they are quality writers.
To me, it felt like two completely different episodes stitched together in a really unsatisfying, lazy way. It wasn't my least favourite episode of the season (Space Babies would have taken some beating in that respect), but it was down there.
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it and the first half was absolutely thrilling. Kind of lost me in the second half when it became about that politiction and then they left it with a confusing and unsatisfying ending for me personally. Dot and Bubble for me was my favourite as that was a total gut punch and just a great story all round. Massive Black Mirror fan too so having that vibe throughout helped
I do agree with a lot of the points made here, especially when it comes to when it airs. I think Disney forgot that a major percentage of DW fans are British so putting at a time more convenient for them is better. Or having it released twice in a day, 7/9 pm UST for European fans, then broadcast again at 7/9 EST for North American fans. Plus we do need more episodes in a season, having only eight episodes instead of a typical twenty, didn't allow for much character building for everyone. Plus I do agree there needs to be confrontation between Doctor and companion, because the companion is always human who doesn't understand the complexity of traveling through time and space. The Doctor always had an alien quality who was a guide. Having Gatwa not accepting he's an alien felt dull and took away from the mystery of The Doctor. I liked that the 15th Doctor was was more emotional, but there needed to be a mix of emotion and adventurous, having him be more emotion driven took away from the character.
"Generally more miserable" *shows Ten in the rain* I'm really enjoying the editing on this one... the clips that accompany Ellie's discourse are well-chosen and occasionally hilarious
Imagine you're in charge of Doctor Who. What one or two tweaks are you making to ensure the show's future success?
13-episode seasons and a bigger focus on old enemies (we didn’t see one Dalek in Season 1)
Get rid of Ncuti and can't a white male actor in the lead role.
And retcon the Timeless Child out of existence.
Send the Dakeks after the Incels you're jerking off with this video.
Not exactly a change that would better the show completely, but I have an episode idea as an experiment to see if the audience likes it more or less than the past couple of episodes: I'd make one episode with an alien from classic who (that isn't as well known or remembered) and then decide what the Doctor's role is based on who the alien is (either him helping them or being their enemy and trying to convince them otherwise or fight them off).
The plot could go a couple ways: the Doctor finds them on Earth and is 1: helping them by either getting them off of Earth or helping them figure out a way to stay for whatever reason, or 2: trying his best to make them leave without any violence or death.
The conflict could be multiple things as well: their ship crashed on Earth (I'm rather inclined to stay away from them trying to take over Earth at the moment), humans feel threatened by them either because of their looks, mannerisms, technology, weapons, fear of the unknown, or all of the above, the aliens themselves can't stay for long because the Earth's atmosphere is killing them, the aliens have with them something that could kill everything on Earth (or whatever planet they are on) if they don't leave in time, the Doctor stumbles upon them is either trying his best to get away from them or explain why they should let him go, etc.
Happy ending: aliens leave without harming anyone (either because they were good from the start, all they needed was help and didn't care for anything else, or the Doctor was successful in convincing them to not do anything).
Neutral ending: the aliens leave, but not after someone dies and/or the Doctor has to get serious and aggressive in order to make them leave.
Bad ending: the aliens get killed by the humans because of their fear, the Doctor is too late and the aliens die, or the Doctor is forced to kill a great many of them in order to make them leave.
(Sorry that this was incredibly long)
@@FloweredUp-n4t I'd make Ncuti the next two doctors
Paul McGann in his own series, even if limited in scope, would be an amazing thing to behold. You see the work he did in the Night of the Doctor, and it’s clear he would’ve been regarded as one of the best doctors ever cast if he had his chance in a series.
@@HowardThomas-g9h Yes! There's actually a series of novels that allow fans to see a pretty good direction for his version. I'd love to see him with more screen time.
He has actually done a dozen seasons of stories with Big Finish in audio play format, and he is a fantastic doctor. That's why he was good in Night of the Doctor, by that point he had been playing the Doctor non stop for the previous decade.
exactly, go back to having straight doctor who
@@lesigh1749 the problem with Big Finish (even if you can find them on Spotify), is that a lot of not english talking fans could find those audios hard to follow. They could take some of those stories and make them animated series...
I wish he got atlest one season but I feel like of he's show was made we would have gotten completely different verisons of the modern doctors 14 probley wouldn't have been a returning doctor
I remember a time when seasons of shows were 24 episodes a season.
42 episodes in the 60s.
I’ve had to explain to several people this week about how shows like Addams Family were 65 eps for TWO seasons. I Love Lucy had like FORTY EPS A SEASON. Those actors were working almost every week and “reruns” had not been invented yet.
And for you kids, “reruns” are what we called repeating episodes when they scaled back down to about 22-24 episodes a season (1970-90s) and they had to fill time slots all year round, save holiday events and sportsings. They literally reran the previous season’s episodes to fill air time so it was on literally every week.
Only in the 1990s did they expand programs for “summer fillers” which might catch on, but don’t get excited for them. Heath Ledger was in the summer filler series Roar, introducing him to American viewers. A lucky few went on to full series, like NBC’s SouthLand, a six ep LAPD show filler which got renewed for s2, then cancelled while filming. Contracts demanded NBC let them finish the second six, and it took a full year for TNT to pick it up, air the second season, then green light three more seasons of ten eps.
Ya but that half killed the staff sometimes they are people and it can get crazy.
but only about five storires
But episodes used to be about 25 minutes each, and often a distressing amount of that was padding of characters walking through corridors.
The problem is that s2 was already in the can before s1 was out so we will probably have to wait for s3 for any change.
It's a bigger problem than they're letting on... Disney aren't going to commit to a third season unless s2 is a vast improvement, but it can't be better having been created at the same time with the same lack of talent.
I am hoping thats not the case. But maybe as DW fans we expect more of Davis than is actually the case. But maybe not. The first year of most shows is not its best. This is essentially a new partnership of many parties, Disney, new writers, returning but also new show-runner, new actors. I have hope.
@@BartRos1980 s1 and s2 were filmed back to back because of Ncutis schedule.
That maybe true but S1 being badly handled actually damages the prospects for S2.
Choosing a weak story as the debut of the season and casting an actor you KNOW will have miss half of the filming are bizarre choices. Ncuti Gatwa is a breath of fresh air and does a wonderful Doctor but all this is hurting his era.
RTD has ZERO excuse. He ran Doctor Who for five years. If he and others were new to Doctor Who or less experienced to TV? They'd have an excuse but they've had decades of experience.
And yes, this is a different era and media landscape, but common sense is still common sense isn't it?
@@GetheS SO not only did SHitty gatwa cause the filming issue he turned the whole show as g*y as fuck and destroyed the remainder of the sh*tpile that was left by Chibnall. God forbid they need to just can this mess and let moffat have a go at renewing it. Its currently not worth the pain on my retinas
Spot on, Ellie. Someone send this video to RTD and the BBC, please.
Definitely less crying, i don't have anything against the Doctor showing Emotion...but this was a bit much. I think he cried in every single episode to some degree
Yeah.
In Boom it was understandable given the immense amount of pressure he was under. Same with having to let Ruby go so that she's able to live with her family without fear of her dying on an adventure and leaving her family with no resolution or rest in terms of how she disappeared and died other than the Doctor directly saying to Carla that he broke the promise. However, it felt a bit much for a lot of other instances.
I wanted to see a wider range of emotions out of 15 given how seemingly his mind's been a bit more uncluttered and de-stressed from his time as 14. The quiet rage from his help being refused by the Finetimers was definitely impactful to see, and his small speech to Paul about how music could be better and how it could move people rather than just being so-so melodic noises was just lovely to hear. Hopefully season 2/series 15 shows more variety in his expressed emotions.
it was like... maybe i should cry about some crisps
Yea, it completely put me off, like you really don't have to cry all the time man. I preferred it when the Doctor was a bit more stoic and angry, the doctors rage is something to behold
I haven't seen much but if he's showing this much crying...
How destructive will his anger be? And not seething quiet anger, but LOUD anger.
I would loved to see it when he realized Bill was killed but his anger then taking over. He knows he will outlive his companions but the method should cause him pain, otherwise he is a sociopath. Empathy is a defining factor of The Doctor. An immortal being must be able to identify with the mortal ones or he becomes useless.
Something I just realized as I was watching this is
They established in star beast that unit is used to seeing the doctors out of order, they were treating 14 like he was 10 until he told them otherwise
It’d be really cool if they explored this more in the land and the sea, we could see how unit works with different doctors out of order
That wouldn't work mechanically though as people have aged since their first appearance.
At best, they could use a voice.
@@Aurora_Lightbringerthat hasn’t stopped them before
@@cozyvrc It kinda has though
Imagine 9 or 12 or even 8 came back I think I'd be so much more exited if it was 8 Imagine near the end of the first season we think its gonna be 15 then pops out 8 the one thing that'd be bad is they'd probably have to change he's tardis a bit
@Aurora_Lightbringer they have disneys budget now and Disney can defiantly use cgi to dee age a actor and they've done it louds of times and just made some dumb stuff excuse
Hope next season Capaldi wakes up realising he was still stuck in the dial
Or it’s still all a dream with the face hugger monster
'Doctor, I let you go' 12 starts to regenerate only to stop a few seconds later. 'Well actually that seems like a lot of good reasons not to regenerate. Thank you wildly creative yet mortally terrifying imagination.' *Dies*
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Hey, if they could retcon the Doctor having a human mom Or basically sabotaging the mystery of the Doctor…… I could see them doing a drastic change as that
Honestly, to fix both the issue of two Doctor-light episodes in one go and the issue of the first episode needing to be an Event™, I would've redone the order like this:
The Church on Ruby Road (obviously)
Boom (with Ruby learning to trust the Doctor despite having just met them)
Dot and Bubble (where we see them working together as a team)
Rogue (they've been a team but how well does the Doctor recognise his companion?)
73 Yards (having to cope without the Doctor and living with the misunderstanding from Rogue, which could've been much more impactful this way and would've added to that conflict that was missing)
Space Babies (a nice light-hearted mid-season break)
The Devil's Chord (maybe Ruby tells the Doctor about the 73 Yards thing and that she was hurt by the misunderstanding in Rogue and they're trying to make it up to her by seeing the Beatles?)
The Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death (again obviously, plus I feel like it would've affected me more personally to go straight from Maestro to Sutekh rather than having basically the entire season in between)
Idk just a preliminary sort of thing but i feel like that would've made the season flow better for me personally (although i did absolutely love it nonetheless)
Enough crying! In the entire classic series, the Doctor cried only ONE time, when Jo Grant left…and it was one tear. He didn’t even cry when Adria died!
Adric wasnt even human though. He was a Marshman masquerading as an 'humanoid'. Also he died so that Earth could have Oil.
Not quite! Tom Baker’s 4th Doctor during the “do I have the right?” speech as he’s about to touch the 2 wires together he has a few tears streaming down his face but then he’s literally on the verge of committing genocide so you can understand that!
@@matthewhegarty2873 genocide is wiping all the daleks out.... all he is doing is destroying the current incubator room. There are.. I think 4 active daleks plus davros at this point. To completely wipe out the daleks he would have to kill the remaining daleks plus davros. Otherwise with davros active, the guy builds another incubator room
Half the audience probably punched the air when Adric died.
@@matthewhegarty2873 that and it was his 10th take? Which was UNHEARD of to be allowed multiple takes. People were freakin tired of standing around delivering the same lines only to have to do it again and again. It might of been tears of pain at that point! :)
Excellent points! RTD take note! Btw, don’t mind The Doctor crying but it starts to lose its emotional impact when it happens too often.
It's really annoying, because 15 crying did work in a few episodes but damn the frequency of it was frustrating. I'm fine with it but only in moderation. I think the lower episode count is also to blame for how dumb it feels. I mean, 8 episodes where he crys in at least 6 of them sucks in my opinion. If it was even just a 10 episode season, where you remove the unnecessary crys and only keep the Boom, Dot and Bubble Rogue, and Legend of Ruby Sunday ones. 4 episodes out of 10. That's frequent and borders on ridiculous but isn't as bad. I understand 13 episodes being too much to make each year, 14 including the Christmas special, but 10, 11 including Christmas should probably be the aim. That's the main positive I have for Jodie's era, the series were shorter but they didn't FEEL short. Doctor Who felt like it was around for a while, but Ncuti's season 1 felt like it was barely present. 10 episodes with 1 doctor lite for production conflicts and 1 low stakes budget & production friendly episode would be great
Like, damn, 8 full force normal episodes, one doctor lite bottle epsiode and one cheaper standalone adventure. Keeps things a little fresh and maintains a 2.5 month doctor who phase instead of Season 1's 5 weeks, under half of the original runtime. Kinda sucks
Did his tear ducts regenerate incorrectly? KIDNEYS!
@@aqdrobert I don't like the colour.
Solution 1
RTD needs to go. Once he was the king of Doctor who and the shows return. Sadly now he has lost his way
Solution 2 listen to the fans it’s this simple
"The fans" are not one voice. What you probably mean by that, subconsciously or not, is "listen to and act on MY opinion".
I knew exactly this would happen. RTD's return was overly glorified as people completely sugarcoat his first run as "the good old times" - completely forgetting that they and their taste have changed over time
@ absolute nonsense take Cobra Kai for instance. The series is written by 3 life long fans. They show respect to the original source material from the films and incorporate it into the series. Giving you a smash hit series
Ghostbusters afterlife written by the original directors son who again showed huge respect to the original 2 ghostbusters films. New what the fans wanted and delivered a dam good film
RTD came back with Disney which isn’t the best of starts with all the woke nonsense. Destroyed the character of Davros after 50 years all in the name of inclusiveness. Brought ridiculous song n dance numbers into the series, made the Doctor gay, again just another PC tick box exercise. Gatwa and RTD attacked the fan base before the new series came out and look what happened 🤣 worst viewing figures in the history of the shows 60 years
So what I mean is don’t piss the fan base off as it’s us fans who keep franchises alive
I’ve been a fan since the mcoy era and have to say the last series we got was absolute rubbish. Nothing but pandering to a minority of the fandom
@ the fan base is what keeps any franchise alive
Don’t attack them don’t disrespect them listen to what fans want and you will be fine. Unfortunately the show now has the lowest ratings ever lol way to go RTD and Garwa it’s your own doing
Take cobra Kai tv series and ghostbusters afterlife movie. Both of them respect the original source material and it shows in the finished product
What RTD has done is force todays craziness into the show. Destroyed a characters legacy all in the name of inclusiveness Davros. Forced gender nonsense made the Doctor gay just for the fun of it and again to be inclusive
What fans want is good writing again get back to doctor who as we know it not some woke piece of shit it has become
I’ve been a fan since the mcoy era and the dark days so well within my rights to have a rant
@@MydieLyThat’s pure BS. It’s the fans that keep a show/series alive. Look at what happened with Sonic. The creative ppl LISTENED to the fans, they made the changes and they were gifted with praise and most importantly, our money.
@@DoodleThis yes, and there is a LOT of fans who didn't think RTD was the Second Coming and thus had no issues with what he did this time around. Because they remembered all the "swing and miss" stuff RTD did back then. He was not perfect then, he's not perfect now.
Yeah, the constant crying really put me off this Doctor. I get that they’re trying to send the message that it’s okay for men to express their feelings, but it was way too much. For me, it’s not that the frequency lessens the impact, I just don’t think it’s something a hero character should constantly be doing. Imagine if Steve Rogers cried every time something bad happened in the MCU; you wouldn’t be able to take the character seriously anymore. And what’s worse is that it looks so fake. It’s always ONE single tear running down his face, clearly put there by the makeup department.
Crying should be more ugly
Completely agree with the "less crying" suggestion. In my opinion, one of the Doctor's greatest advantages in a situation is presenting themself to be in control of the situation or masking how much it's really affecting them at the moment. Having the Doctor show what they're feeling right then and there can work at times, but it also makes them seem very vulnerable and overwhelmed by what's happening, which can obviously be used against them.
From the sound of it,they've basically turned the Doctor into a wimp.
Make the doctor important with him actually having an effect on the characters and helping to resolve issues. The majority of the time, he didn't play a big part in saving others and was the one getting saved a lot.
Good point.
No, the Doctor is just a space hobo, a turist no a superhero.
Critics of Moffatt's era talk of the Doctor becoming 'Space Jesus'.
Certainly, the development of him as a literally universally known and feared godlike figure was at odds with Eccleston's Doctor, who shocked various characters by revealing he was Gallifreyan ("we thought you were all dead / a myth"). They were clearly unaware of the Doctor and his "reputation".
Clive, the internet nerd in "Rose," described a shadowy figure drifting into historical events in the background, an observer, like the Time Lords before him.
By the "End of Time," he again raised religious parallels by literally rising from his cage / tomb and forgiving the Master. Forgiveness being the central tenet of the Gospels.
Another reason why the "Timeless Child nonsense should be ditched/ retconned as a fantasy of the Master, long established as an unhinged liar and master of deception
@@neilgodwin6531 The problem is that the Master never lies, he is cruel honest.
@@mayotango1317 That doesn't mean the Master can't be mistaken or mislead. An easy fix is to have it be a manipulation on Tecteun's part to get rid of the Doctor and the Time Lords in one fell swoop and leaving her free to create the Flux.
When I look back on this snow season, I treat "The church on Ruby Road" as the season 1 premiere because it did what Space babies just didn’t. Introduced a companion, a new doctor, gave us a fun and engaging high octane adventure and set up the series going forward. Space Babies was a classic weird Doctor Who second adventure you’d get midway through a series.
The Doctor was their most powerful when they carried the guilt, the hurt, the pain. I was so hopeful for 15 but the everything isn't strong. It's not emotional enough, tears aren't emotion in the way they're currently used. But it's the wardrobe that Really disappoints. Iconic. Instantly recognisable even as a silhouette... Well until now. I don't understand why, 60 years of rarely altering, suddenly costumes and wardrobes galore.... For me it's really lost an iconography there. Also I hate to say it but I don't like the new Tardis, I like the much smaller control room, it's more cosy, more good for the set to me and character interaction. It's worse than 13s and that's saying something.
"I'm The Doctor!! We're in the biggest library in the universe - Look me up!!"
I'm glad the excessive crying is addressed here. Especially for the Doctor, the story telling technique of having the character cry should be used sparingly. The times when Tennant and Smith cried made those moments more special. Gatwa's Doctor cried too much and it diminished his emotional journey, aka if everything is special, than nothing is special.
It also made 15 a bit of a hypocrite when he told 14 that he was more emotionally stable and that 14 should get healing. With the excessive crying 15 seemed like he was actually worse off than 14.
crying is a healthy emotional outlet. just because you cry a lot and aren’t afraid to express your pain doesn’t mean you’re not stable lmao
compare the times 15 cried vs when 10 went on a power trip/started yelling in frustration and anger. i’m sure 10 losing his grip on himself and reason as a whole outnumbers 15’s crying.
Adding Classic Doctor Who onto Disney Plus would be a good bonus, especially for Australian subscribers as that era isn't being streamed anywhere there. Not since it was removed from Britbox Australia the day after the Disney+ distribution deal was made official.
I wasn't aware of the staggered release times. But my thoughts are almost exactly yours on the crying. Not every episode and definitely not when he should be acting or, at least, planning. And having a central streaming location for all eras of the show definitely makes sense.
1. sack RTD
2. sack him 9 more times.
Christopher Eccleston warned us!
No one is hailing Wild Blue Yonder as a classic.
Only two tweaks needed... have everything that has happened since the Master held 13 captive in the Matrix be fabricated, have Jodie escape finally but require a regeneration... and then start fresh with good writing, with all that nonsense gone for good!
Aaaah yes, to fix the bad writing they just have to have bad writing. How simple
Or rewrite the Timeless Child…. Make it that the Master lied. If they could retcon the Doctor having a human mom they could do it with that.
Until they undo the Timeless Child Doctor Who will never be fix or back.
The whole season 2 is filmed.
And it's probably being lowered into the grave as we speak.
Like that funeral scene in Chernobyl with the radioactive bodies in lead caskets, then they pour concrete over it?
The toxic half-life of it could have quite a lengthy harmful effect.
Anyone else remember when Ellie and Sean were stanning crazy for Space Babies but now they’ve flipped 180 about it. I remember them loving it whilst I was thinking “what the heck are you talking about?!” And I didn’t say heck.
You do know the filmed season 2 already....so there will be no different until season 3
I watched the series. My brother, a more casual viewer, watched Space Babies and the Devil's Chord and could not be persuaded to watch any more as a result. That I knew that the mighty Moffat was writing the next one kept me going. But my heart goes out to all those who paid for a midnight launch of this series in cinemas and got Space Babies!
I'm glad not to have missed Boom, Dot and Bubble and 73 Yards. The rest - not so sure. And that these tended to be Doctor lite may not be a coincidence.
I may be alone in disliking the super popular Gatwa but he seems ill equipped to take the role. Maybe if he had directly followed the Chibnall series he would have looked better by contrast, but compared with any other New Who Doctors (other than Whittaker?) he is poor. And as to the writing of his role, a Doctor that simply cruises humans for a bit of strange (gay or straight), as in Rogue, is not a Doctor I recognise as in any way related to previous Doctors.
I gave up on Chibnall. Unless something really changes I think I may again.
The pattern of the past seven years is that I tried giving it a chance several times but,while it probably have had redeeming features that I therefore passed on,the sheer awfulness of the mis-steps in the script made me switch over to watch something else after just a few minutes.
My initial impression of NG was that he could be engaging in the role,but I lost any sympathy for him and RTD since they started dissing the existing fanbase for having an opinion that wasn't obsequious to theirs.
I know people seem to dislike the constant use of classic who villains (Daleks, Angels, Cybermen) but if they have the finales and premieres being episodes about them, not only are they explosively exciting but they also attract new fans who recognise the big villains.
Those were "good" episodes? Really? The bar keeps going lower and lower. How can you compare that drek to some of the best episodes of the Eccleston, Tenent (first run) or Smith series? And I'm not even touching on the the classic series.
Yup, 73 yards is both nonsetical and inconsequential What's so 'great' about it?
I liked the devils chord, boom, 73 yards, dot and bubble,the legend of ruby rose, and half of empire of death 🤷♀️🤷♀️ there’s a fair few of Matt smiths I skip tbh. They definitely aren’t on the same level as some of Chris Christopher’s or David’s. But I still would most definitely watch “73 yards”, “dot and bubble” and “boom” multiple times.
An idea. Having an episode set around an event where the Dr arrives, unable to solve an issue leaves. Only for a different Dr to arrive
When it comes to getting new writers, they need to be passionate about the show and characters rather than cramming ideologies down audiences' throats. Give me more things like The Doctor Falls whhere we get to see the Doctor on a truly grounded level and brought back to basics; we need the Doctor to be someone who is willing to do as much as physically and mentally possible for things as simple as saving a few children.
Also, new writers need to be told _not_ to make the Doctor abandon his friends so he can hump random strangers.
That last bit - in what is ostensibly first and foremost a children's show that was also popular with adults with a large family audience? Really?
I once read a particular cutting review of the London stage performance of a well-known TV sitcom of yesteryear,in which the parting swipe was "not suitable for adults or children." It seems like the same may be true of the current Dr Who in that case.
@@rjjcms1 The last bit was a slight exaggeration in that he only got as far as flirting, doing a weird gyratory dance, and an underserved kiss scene.
@@Jackson-ub1uv OK,that's a bit different.
I had to use The Mind Probe to remove the memory of The Goblin Song and the entirety of Space Babies.
Ncuti gatwa is too human, lacks the alien aspect of the doctor
The job of companion is to translate the Doctor's alieness for the audience. Make the Doctor too human and you lose that dynamic. That's half the drama gone right there.
So was Tennant, the RTD Doctors' (bar 9) are Too Human for an Alien Character!
@@MarionBaggins yes thats completely true, but there were aspects that reminded us of his alien. The time lord victorious arc, lots of guilt from the time war, a god complex. His human was to conceal his god complex as the last timelord from overtaking. Not to mention David Tennant is a brilliant actor, he made the human doctor work, bravo.
US resident - I found it VERY weird that they did midnight releases of a family show. Instead of growing the audience, they handicapped their selves by alienating the main audience.
People can watch it anytime they want though😊
Where season openers are usually explosive events, "Space Babies" was a fart... ;-P
The whole point about character friction is spot on. I watched the last two episodes with the UNIT team and noticed how everyone was so friendly and all got on so well. No drama, no friction or conflict. Was an absolute bore
I think it was Barry Letts who wanted seasons to open with a bang and, if you look at the four he oversaw, they all had an 'opening night' charge about them. Interesting that Graham Williams never really gets credited for starting the 'Series Finale' (or even 'Series Arc') thing.
Arguably, Barry Letts created a prototype for the "Series Arc" in Pertwee's second season. The "Master Arc", if you like... he features in every story and the season ends with his arrest in The Dæmons. As a season closer, The Dæmons even feels like a modern "high stakes" finale, as it brings all the regulars together against a foe with the power to destroy the world.
Season 3 hasn't even started filming yet.
They shot season 1 and 2 back to back. Season 1 released, with awful viewership numbers, then they canned season 3, it might start filming in 2025.
Also, the film crew have apparently quit, mentioning that Dr who (new Dr who) has ruined their careers, no one else wants to hire them.
That pretty well covers all the nit-picks I had for the season. The crying being my biggest irritation.
Also does the new sonic bother anyone else?
This might be an unpopular opinion but imo RTD isn't that great at writing sci-fi, his early seasons only were so popular and loved because most of the modern audience don't exactly have a reference point for a good time traveling sci-fi storyline. Moffat's time as a showrunner sure did have its downs, but his overall seasonal arc storylines were more unique and clever
Completely agree! The companion is a window for the viewers. The Doctor explains something to the companion, he's actually explaining it to the audience. If he's keeping the companion in the dark, he's actually keeping the viewers in the dark. We want to slap the Doctor, the companion slaps the Doctor. The companion needs to be a representation of the viewer.
I haven't seen anything since Jodi changed into David
You haven't missed much. I was so looking forward to Ncuti and RTD, as I was a fan of both.
They have let me down, this isn't the programme I loved since I watched Ian and Barbara burst into the Tardis in 1963.
Never thought I would say this, but it's actually worse that Chibnall's era
You would like the second special David did, Wild Blue Yonder. Theres not much context with the surrounding episodes and it has a good story concept
If you enjoyed everything (or mostly everything) up to that point you should give it a go as you're missing out.
I loved Jodi as the doctor but not so much the stories. Quality is definitely back up quite a bit, apart from space babies which I enjoyed but it was definitely not the high point.
If you didn't enjoy Jodi and before, well definitely don't bother.
Personally I still recommend watching the David Tennant specials at least once. The Star Beast is pretty hit or miss but the other two are really good. The Giggle is basically flawless... all the way up until the "regeneration" sequence and then the following game of catch during what was supposed to be the climax of the episode -.- Wild Blue Yonder is fantastic though.
I was planning to watch at least the NPH 3 specials, but haven't had the time. thanks for all the feedback!
Yeah... the majority of Ncuti Gatwa's first season being the Doctor left me feeling 'What the heck did I just watch?'... and '73 yards' was one of the worst. I won't diss Ncuti's acting, but when you read an interview where it describes someone as being 'a clothes horse', it kind of implies they only got the job because they looked good. Which, if you think about it, isn't what Dr Who is all about.
Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I like my stories to be proper stories, not the mess almost every episode of Ncuti's season 1 was. So one thing they can do is go back to good old basics for the writing, and write proper stories, stories that have clear beginnings, middles and endings. Nor should they all have content which pushes the personal agendas of writers and show-runners every single time. The more you shove such things in your audience's faces, the more you will polarise the audience, to the point where those who are tired of it will switch off, and all you'll be left with is the niche audience you've been trying to promote. I hate to say it, but unless the Christmas Special shows its moving away from agenda based material, i won't be bothering with DW any more until it does...
Thanks
Space Babies needs to be relegated to a dark corner of a closet in RTD's basement!
i liked Space Babies a lot ;) i was so afraid they lost their stupidness and i was sceptical with too much new stuff. Seeing them taking care about babies in space wasnt a season opener by any means but it was a look back at silly times i missed
Surely his weakest season opener so far.
What makes me mad is that this could of been someones first look at who especially with the Disney deal.
It was better than 'Boom' which was a rip-off of a famous scene in 'Genesis Of The Daleks'!
Glad it gets better. I tapped out at 10 minutes of Space Babies made me think it had all become stupid.
Have not just all modern Who in one place but all Who entirely, classic and modern. If I want to watch modern Who I have to have HBO Max and Disney Plus. And if I want to watch classic Who I need BritBox or Amazon Prime with the Britbox add-on. And they wonder why people resort to extralegal means to obtain their entertainment. Because nobody wants to have to pay for three, or even four, different subscriptions just to watch ONE tv show!
Also, yes, 100% agree, less crying. I love that the Doctor shows emotion. I love how vibrant and just ALIVE Ncuti's Doctor is, and he absolutely should keep being that way. But if something is going to make even the Doctor cry, then it should be something HUGE. The Doctor shedding tears should be a signal of something incredibly meaningful and impactful. When the Doctor cries in almost every episode, it lessens the impact. Like the Daleks seeming less and less terrifying with each defeat, the crying seems less and less important with each repetition.
I´m from Argentina. I watched modern Who thanks to the argentinian Fans Club web. Not sure if it´s still open. I´d love to have, at least NuWho on D+. It can be Max too, no problem...
At least you can pay to watch it. In South America we don't have DW in any streaming service. Just this last season on Disney+.
What did the Doctor actually do? He cried, left his companion to die while he tried to arrange a booty call, and watched while everyone else saved the day. Did he save the people in Dot and Bubble? No. Did he save Ruby in Rogue? No.
Plus the stories (and that's dignifying them) made no sense. The dot system decides to wipe out all the people. Why? Don't know. They (it?) do this by genetically engineering giant slugs. Why? Don't know. The dots, made to be worn, can levitate and fly at supersonic speeds like a bullet. Why? Guess. And if they can use themselves to shoot people, again why the slugs.
Sutekh defeated because he wants to know Ruby's origin story. For WHAT REASON? Killing him by putting him on a lead and taking him walkies - the same moronic sense of humour that wrote a 50 minute story as a set up for a fart joke (yes, you RTD). Oh, and a creature living on the outside of the Tardis as it flies through the time vortex - being killed by exposure to the time vortex. See why this whole season resulted in the lowest viewing figures of all time (until next year, when I'm sure that will be beaten)? Why the two least watched episodes in history were this year? Why 200,000 viewers turned of in the 30 seconds between the first and second episodes?
Completely agree with you… I was so excited that RTD came back… but this this series was utterly appalling.
Not just more new writers, but also more Moffat. Moffat has produced so many all-time episodes with RTD as showrunner. But what you said about RTD focusing more on showrunning than individual episodes is spot on.
That was such a lovely and fair critique of Gatwa his first season. I disliked where the previous doctor was too emotional or overwhelmed. Its seemed unfair. And a writing error. Why would she be like that when Tennant, Smith, Capaldi would have it all figured out. The new doctor has some elements of that, and some of the older doctors. Which is great. But it needs to be written in a way that fitst well with his previously seen incarnations. Which a new twist. I hope they get this right. Sadly DW gets a lot of hate and resistance now. Somehow unneeded seeing its history. I want more DW, always. But with D+ involved, having pumped in more money, we are at risk of the show getting cancelled at some point. Disney isnt in a good place (by their own fault). As Doctor Who fans we know a secondhand suit, some shoestring , ductape and a painted backdrop can lead to some great tv. Because we neer great acting and storytelling and nothing more. In that regard DW can and should be the savior of Disney plus in relation to Netflix. We dont need 7 million usd budgets, we need great stories. The new season had some of that. Also, lacked some of it. 47 yards was a great episode though. Possibly one of my favorites.
Re: #7 I disagree completely - the Dr 'lite' episodes were the best of the series.
You made many great points in this video, but the single most important one was having the Doctor Who catalog of older episodes available in one place in the US. I happen to subscribe to all three services featuring Doctor Who, but I'm already a fan. So, for me it's not a huge deal to switch to BritBox to watch classic Who, then Max to get my new Who fix. However, it *IS* a pain to do so and I'd be much more likely to marathon Doctor Who if I could watch all my favorite episodes on one service. For new viewers of Doctor Who, they aren't going to go subscribe to two other services to see all the Who content. They may not even be aware there is more content. Disney+ is the logical choice to host all of them here, but it probably won't happen.
this was a good one and the points you made where all agreed with in this home
Agree with a lot of what has been said…but for me, more episodes is needed. We just “accepted” the reduction from 13 to 8 over the years but we really shouldn’t have. Yes I’m glad Doctor Who is still going and always grateful for the show to be on the air, I’ll always support it because it’s wonderful BUT could you imagine if the new season had 13 like it’s supposed to be, how much better it could have been? I do feel like the finale was rushed and we need more but yes, if we have 8 episode seasons then the doctor has to feature in all of them not 5 or 6 of them ALL of them.
Both of the doctor lite episodes were exceptionally strong…
Ncutti was at his strongest performance in the middle section of 73 yards.
@@lesigh1749 exactly, need a straight doctor
I'm wondering if they're doing S2 reshoots at the moment - RTD has been posting multiple pictures of himself on the TARDIS set over the past couple of weeks on his Instagram. I suppose one thing about the delayed release of S2 is they have plenty of time to tweak and adjust the episodes to get them right, even if they were largely filmed right after the S1 eps.
I can say most people did not like Space Babies, especially the die hard fans.
Along with Rogue, which seems equally despised. Cheap ripoff of Bridgerton. What next, the Doctor meets Charlie and Nick from Heartstopper? Or better, Otis (Sex Ed). Eric was the Timeless Child all along.....
12:09 "That's not the Doctor", couldn't have said it better about all casting since Capaldi...maybe even Capaldi too.
@@gordonb7765 Said no-one with a brain ever.
I stand behind your opinions. you are absolutely right Ellie.
I do want to see the SJA and Class characters back to wrap up their storylines.
But otherwise we need spinoffs that aren't limited to modern Earth adventures.
I'm not sure the time of year impacts the viewing figures. I personally pefer not to have to sit through ten minutes of strictly before Doctor Who.
Honestly when it comes to Doctor/Companion friction Jodie really suffered due to the lack of conflict and criticism. Especially when a terrible scene could've been saved by the companions calling the Doctor out on her BS
I don't mind having the doctor open and emotional but I would prefer a focus back on just a "traveler and a box" mordern who has this horrible status quo that won't let the doctor move on as a character
"I'm the god of light" thing has been an issue since late Tennants era too.
Theres defo a few things that need changing.
there's something you'd better understand about me cause it's important, and one day your life may depend on it: I am definitely a mad man with a box!
new writers, sure, but also less Russel, more Moffat
Most important: The Doctor needs to be The Doctor again. Whatever that was they gave us wasn't it. He needs to be an eccentric, not a fashion model. Somewhere between Father Christmas and your favorite crazy uncle. He can NOT be "hollywood attractive." He has to look a bit strange. He has to dress a bit strange, and he should have a single defining look, which should not be off the rack mall clothes or random whatever to fit this week's "concept." And stop having him crying all the time. I can only assume they have him do that because he has absolutely no character at all otherwise. He is a human bookmark right now. This is where the main character would go if we had one. What an utter and complete failure. Fix that or nothing else matters.
Im going to do what the war doctor did Forget about the 15 doctor and go on to the 16th doctor
Bye
@@Amizare1 not bye good riddens to bad rubbish
@@tonyleyden2066 bye
@@Amizare1 The whole show is gonna go bye bye after next series.
@@lesigh1749 no it's not
I´m not sure if it´s the idea, but I´d close Ncuti´s run with his Doctor re-merging with 14th and having a proper regeneration...
i love that. now i'm going to be disappointed when they don't do that!
You didn't mention my biggest issue with the new series. It's way too fantasy. It seems like over half the new episodes are written like episodes of the x files or the twilight zone instead of doctor who
Spinoff pitch: The wilderness years with a Zygon in a crashed ship gets memory loss after impersonating the head of UNIT/Torchwood. Have the zygon twist end episode 1 with them just as confused as us. Have a more adult Battlestar Galactica/The Americans feel with the zygon torn between humans and zygons while trying to find morality (and rhe possibility of heroism) in a world where The Doctor is seen as dead.
Agree with a lot of what was said here.
Sadly I don't see any of it happening. There's no one in the right position to say these things to Russell, Disney, or the BBC. Even if there was so much water has passed under the bridge at this point it will take something Massive to change direction right now. Especially as the second season is already in the can and with a third yet to be commissioned it looks like we're going to have a large gap between 2 and 3.
"Especially as the second season is already in the can"
The irony that "the can" is American slang for the toilet.
Make the timeless child the Master and stop having him cry every episode. Oh yes and stop adding the over sexualizing of the Doctor. Its wildly inappropriate.
I want a star trek crossover episode and there are good on paper.
And not only a game crossover
I need an Avengers (John Steed) crossover.
I just want MORE EPISODES, not just 10 or 12. It is not unrealistic to have a 16 to 24 episode seasons, especially for doctor who. The only thing holding any of it back is these dtreaming services who think 8 is enough. FLUX and this new era season 1 have proved it is not. Thats all i want, at the very least, 13+ episodes a season + specials.
Wrong. It is unrealistic. That hasn’t been how television has worked for a decade now.
Doctor Who is a very difficult show to make. It's not easy to have seasons that are 16 to 20 episodes long. The production doesn't allow for that.
@@DrWhoFanJ"Really?" said fans of Casualty, Emmerdale, Heartstopper and Loki
I thought 15's reaction to learning it was Sutekh he was dealing with was spot on. He knows how powerful the Ossirians were, having commented when he was Four that they were more powerful than the Time Lords, who no longer existed to be able to help reign in this one all powerful being.
RTD is going to see this and do the exact opposite of everything mentioned, just because.
A Susan/Romana spin-off series after BOTH Carole-Ann Ford and Lalla Ward return to Doctor Who for pre-regeneration swansong episodes before new actresses take over the roles. "Derry Girls" star Nicola Coughlin will be appearing in the Christmas Special, I would offer the role of the regenerated Romana to her co-star and who was the lead actress in "Derry Girls", Saorise-Monica Jackson, with "DC's Legends of Tomorrow" star Amy Pemberton as the regenerated Susan. "Marvel's Agent Peggy Carter" star Hayley Atwell would be another good shout to play either character. I also wouldn't mind seeing David Tennant and Catherine Tate guest star in the pilot episode where both Doctors gift Susan and Romana the Tardis disguised as an oak tree. That's my suggestion anyway.
Personally I think seeing the doctor cry brings out another layer of depth to the character. I agree it was possibly overdone during the course of season 1, but in episodes like Boom, and Dot and Bubble, seeing the doctor cry brought out more of the doctors emotional response to difficult situations and ncuti's performance for me has been incredible! Thanks Who Culture! 😊😊
Yes Exactly, it's not that he cries, It's the fact that it was definitely over done.
Absolutely! Don't get rid of it, but tone it down and save it for the heavy hitters.
It is extremely overdone.
I agree Holly … that remark about wanting him to react how he used to was ridiculous. I too enjoy his empathy
@@Ferst60 she has clarified a lot that the problem is that him crying in every single episode and they making a big deal out of it every single episode makes it annoying, overdone and not impactful at all.
the crying doesn't bother me! i don't love him freezing up, though -- but he could cry while having his action/smart scenes, like in boom he cried but kept moving. but totally agree on the friction. amy was easy to buy into because in episode 2 she went against the doctor and caused him to both curse humanity and then to remember why he's not God. most of the companions have moments like that, and ruby deserved hers.
15:20 Talking about discussions between the Doctor and Ruby, I really wish we’d seen scenes across the season where they bonded over their shared connection as foundling adoptees, opening up about their different adoption experiences and feelings on not knowing anything about their birth family, that was one of the things I was most looking forward to after The Church on Ruby Road, but in Season 1 they never actually spoke about it together.
If they had done that, they wouldn't have had time for all the singing and dancing
The foundling thing is vomit inducing and rubs the audience face in the fact that yes, he has kept his buddy Chinballs appalling half baked backstory retcon in play. The show has been on life support ever since the Timeless child was introduced, it is the shows Kryptonite, its a really bad idea to want more of it.
@@lesigh1749 It’s really not vomit inducing at all. Look, I understand disliking the origin of regeneration aspect of the Timeless Child, but speaking as an adoptee myself, the Doctor being a foundling adoptee not from Gallifrey fits with the Doctor’s character and the canon of the show.
@@lesigh1749 The Doctor being revealed as a foundling and adoptee builds on the Doctor’s character as they’re always been an adoptee coded character. It doesn’t ruin the Doctor’s character in anyway.
- Abandonment and Separation Trauma✅
- Has a deep need to feel wanted by adopting other people✅
- Felt out of place on Gallifrey and lacked a secure sense of belonging amongst the Gallifreyans✅
This all fits with the lived experience of an adoptee.
@@Jamezevans123 No, it doesnt build on anything. It deletes, removes and replaces the canon about the character that had slowly built over decades of stories and puts instead some half baked Mary sue fanfiction that the Doctor was always special, the most special of special beings. it erases the Timelords as never having mattered, it removes Hartnell's significance as the original Doctor and it resets the whole shows reality to a blank slate with no real rules, onto which you must trust talentless egotistical alphabet fairies like Chinballs and RTD to create a better story than the one they just burned to the ground.
And your checklist really says a bit too much about yourself . Most audiences aren't interested in exploring anxiety and emotional trauma themes as entertainment.
There are probably points for Ruby to be interrogating the Doctor; During the ending of Sutek is not one if them. Don't do friction just for the sake of friction.
I agree with all your points, Ellie. Isn't that amazing? People agreeing with other on social media! The world's gone mad, my dear.
It's not amazing at all.
It's a common phenomenon and it's called "simping".
Look it up.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 Said no-one with a brain ever.
Oh jeez its DrWhoFanJ at it again. An entity no one asked for or listens too with his reparative nonsense. Plenty have said exactly what happyslapsgiving. Just cause your in denial that so many regard this current tenure as the worst it's been is your problem to cope with not those you disagree with you. So find your brain yours is MIA
They don't need new viewers or more writers. They need to look back at season 2, 3 and 4, and figure out what they did right back then and then do that.
I love the Sea Devils, so I seem to be the only one who is actually pleased about the new spin-off.
I'm excited too. If it's anything like Children of Earth (arguably the strongest spin off they've done) then I'm very okay with that.
I hated the sonic screwdriver.
I really did think it would be great having Russell T Davis back after he wrote An English Scandal and It's a Sin since leaving Doctor Who for the first time but it hasn't worked out like that whether that's his fault or the BBC policy I'm not sure.
I've always considered The Church on Ruby Road the season opener and it seems Disney+ does too now
100% of what you said was right on target. My husband and I are US New Who viewers - we literally watch one or two episodes of Doctor Who every night, and when we get done, we start the series over again. It's like our wind down show. We were very disappointed with season 1, for many of the reasons that you suggested. We watched your commentaries after each episode, and almost always agree with your reviews. Hopefully, Doctor Who sees your suggestions!!!
Yeah, I will always maintain that for an ongoing TV series, anything less than 10 episodes in a season is just too short to be satisfying!! I think we felt this with both Doctor Who and House of the Dragon this year. Less episodes can work fine for a limited series (which are essentially self-contained long movies anyway). But, for a proper ongoing TV series that needs to address events from previous seasons and/or set-up plans for future seasons alongside telling the current season's storyline... it's just foolish to try to do it in less than 10.
We’ve seen the Sea Devils three times total in the show’s 60 year run. I think having a mini series about the Sea Devils and their conflicts with humanity is a good spin-off to start with because it’s not a fan wank series-it’s something that new viewers and fans of Doctor Who can both tune into this show. Who wants to watch the adventures of 70 yr old Nyssa as the first start to this new universe? What new viewers would be interested in a show about Matt Smith’s Doctor on Trenzalore. You need to look at the show both as a fan, but also as a business enterprise that is striving to expand its horizons.
You’re complaining about a show that hasn’t even had a trailer out yet, saying “we need bigger and better” but you don’t even know how big it is! Not every show needs to immediately be a space opera
Wait! Did I just hear Ellie say "The Church on Ruby Road" was one of the strongest outings this era?
I'm of this opinion myself, I really love this episode, but last I heard, Ellie ranked it at the bottom right? Or am I tripping?
Honestly the mother reveal has kind of tarnished Ruby road
Doctor Who ended after Capaldi, what you talking about😂
Its already dead in the water😅
The problem with Casting a Black Man as the Doctor is that there is no way realistically that when he travels to an era where Black Slavery is at an all-time high, he won't be captured. They need to go all in here.
This is why Human Nature worked so well. Martha was never likely to be accepted as a nurse, never mind a doctor in that era. Domestic service was the best job a black person could expect.
Maybe in Shakespeare's time, pre Empire, she would be seen as a foreign visitor, like a French or Dutch woman, rather than a black woman and a subject of the British.
Today those episodes would be dismissed as "woke," but they accurately (or as accurately as possible, given we know little of 16th century attitudes) portray the social makeup of Britain in previous times
They skip over itvin the same way when they travel to times and places that white slavery is prevalent or that, usually the companions, attire would be inappropriate, am sure it works something like the ability to speak and understand alien languages, you are there not in chains therefore not a slave no need to ask. In the event of having to provide proof then psychic paper to the rescue.
I like the idea of new writers, however, I was very under-whelmed by the writers during the Jodie Whittaker episodes. So if they do bring in new writers, they need to make sure that they are quality writers.
73 yards was the best episode
I'm still waiting for that episode to start
@@geoffroi-le-Hook what do you mean?
To me, it felt like two completely different episodes stitched together in a really unsatisfying, lazy way. It wasn't my least favourite episode of the season (Space Babies would have taken some beating in that respect), but it was down there.
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it and the first half was absolutely thrilling. Kind of lost me in the second half when it became about that politiction and then they left it with a confusing and unsatisfying ending for me personally.
Dot and Bubble for me was my favourite as that was a total gut punch and just a great story all round. Massive Black Mirror fan too so having that vibe throughout helped
Agreed, mainly because the new doctor wasntvin 98% of it
Have you thought of writing some Doctor Who stories Ellie?
Your passion is infectious, perhaps your writing would be too.
Yes and it couldn't be worse than the fan fiction they filmed
How to improve Doctor Who?
Bring back Moffat as showrunner. RTD's lost it.
lol
I do agree with a lot of the points made here, especially when it comes to when it airs. I think Disney forgot that a major percentage of DW fans are British so putting at a time more convenient for them is better. Or having it released twice in a day, 7/9 pm UST for European fans, then broadcast again at 7/9 EST for North American fans. Plus we do need more episodes in a season, having only eight episodes instead of a typical twenty, didn't allow for much character building for everyone. Plus I do agree there needs to be confrontation between Doctor and companion, because the companion is always human who doesn't understand the complexity of traveling through time and space. The Doctor always had an alien quality who was a guide. Having Gatwa not accepting he's an alien felt dull and took away from the mystery of The Doctor. I liked that the 15th Doctor was was more emotional, but there needed to be a mix of emotion and adventurous, having him be more emotion driven took away from the character.
Unfortunately anything you suggest is pointless as season 2 is already filmed.
"Generally more miserable" *shows Ten in the rain* I'm really enjoying the editing on this one... the clips that accompany Ellie's discourse are well-chosen and occasionally hilarious