@@raymondo8881 Exactly! This is copied straight from Beretta Nano, and on that gun, the take down screw WAS designed for you to turn using just the rim :)
It's funny how many commenters listen to your expertise/knowledge/experience about how the Taurus is every bit the quality with better ergos than the Sig but comment that the Taurus "looks cheaper" (very subjective at the least) and say they will buy the Sig instead. Personally I will save $200 and purchase the Taurus. Put the $200 into a holster and ammo instead.
its Funny , I Have Sigs and I Have Taurus, when I Bought My Taurus I Never expected to Have the Feel of a 226, Kimber, HK or any of the Higher Priced Firearms Out there, I bought because of the price, and will still do so, if you dont like Taurus , dont buy it , simple as that, but if you have not shot one or all you are doing is Parroting what your friends Uncles brother said, this is 2021, Not 2007,I Have never Had any Problems with CS from Taurus, But there will ALWAYS BE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT ANYTHING , Taurus Build a Great Gun , Now its too expensive , Quality is Up, But not like Kimber or a Emperior Scorpion 226 Tacops, or But they want it at 250.00, then its too cheap!! cant be good, Wow !!!
The GX4 has the same or better performance for almost half the price. Most 365s are $500-$600, I just bought the GX4 at Academy for $306 and a 13 round mag for $20
You cant beat that. Have you had any trigger issues? Remember to contact TAURUS so they can keep improving their quality. The big boys are a little to comfortable about their high asking priceses. We need a new peoples champion right now.
@@fauxchung3189 I'm a lifelong resident of Georgia, USA. That being said, Taurus manufactures the GX4, along with many other models at their facility in Bainbridge, Georgia. A friend of mine has a GX4, and he has only had good things to say about it. I gave it a go at the range, and it performed flawlessly. Like everyone knows, the price is too sweet to pass up for a solid firearm like this. Also, from what I hear, their customer support has significantly improved as well. I still see comments hating on the them, but I'm definitely gonna take a chance and see for myself. Merry Christmas
Something you people aren’t considering. As good as the Taurus might be, when you go to sell it, it’s still a Taurus. It’ll be worth maybe $200. But the sig, you’ll get $550 no problem. It doesn’t lose its value. I like both brands, but the sig will always be worth more
I swore I'd never own a taurus semi auto. I tried out a GX4 and didn't hate it. Then PSA had them for 299. I was looking for a pocket pistol. My taurus arrives tomorrow.
@@poontang7435 It's fantastic. It's been reliable enough that it's my carry pistol when I need a tiny gun rather than a full sized. If you are considering one, get it. The recoil is surprisingly manageable, the trigger is pretty darn good. The misfires I've had have come from a batch of bad ammo (my Beretta had the same issues with that batch) and not holding it firmly enough when practicing weak hand only. The grip is good for such a tiny gun, but it's still a tiny gun.
@@rope103mc2 I don't remember leaving one, but I hope it was5 stars. I still very much like this gun. And right now they have a rebate on them. Anyone who is on the fence should just buy one.
What kind of pants would a GX4 fit in a pocket? My LCP Max is the largest pistol that can fit in a pocket while still being able to draw it. Any larger and it would take two hands to draw
I paid $199 at PSA for my PT 111 Millenium. Works like a champ. Feels like a champ. Carries like a champ. Shoots like a weapon designed to protect my life or my loved one's lives. I am very happy with this weapon.
Not underrated, id say only recently reliable with the g series. I actually carry a g3c though. People shit on me but i shoot much better with it than my glocks or sig p365 and its comfortable on me as a big guy for cc
It would help if you would read the GX4 manual. The key chain is the slide release tool. Also, if the Sig was used it would have an advantage with the trigger pull. The GX4 loosens up after 300 rounds.
as said before by someone, you do not need a tool to take down the GX4, a 9mm round casing (the end of the round) will do the job, so anywhere the gun is your ammo will be there also
Interesting. I don't like the size of the keychain thing they give you and I'd rather not have to carry an additional tool like a screwdriver - that would be even worse. If the casing works as you say the problem is solved.
Got me seriously considering selling one of my pistols to make room for the gx4. Really like what they did with the full length stainless rails & the e.z. takedown... I can't wait for a 1K round status update to see how it holds up
@@ronmoman8825 if I could find one & actually put hands on it I would most likely buy it. I just can't find one in stock inside of an hour drive from my home & whenever I do, by the time I actually get to it they've already sold it. I'm thinking of just having my FFL place a factory direct order through their distributor for a gx4 and a tx22 then just wait for them to come in. I was originally hoping to get my hands on a PSA Dagger but I think that ship has sailed...
There is a 2000rd torture test on you tube. I know a guy who says he put 10k rounds thru his gx4 but I can't confirm Personally, I've put just over 800rds of various 9mm thru mine over the last 4 months and it has performed flawlessly. Solid pistol that is worth more than it costs.
Man, what a huge upgrade over my Sig 365 and 365XL. More real estate for the off hand which is important for shooting these micro's. Thank God that Tarurus saw that hulky take down lever and slide Stop and did not go the same route, but made it flush. I love the take down of the Taurus. Just use anything, like a round casing or magazine. I could not believe I got mine for under $350.00. Really nice build quality. I mean NICE! Love the all steel chassis, the nice rails, the gun slide rides so smooth. And I love the Trigger for EDC. The Definite, controlled break at the wall is just perfect for EDC. Bravo to Taurus, a really great firearm By the way, this was my first Taurus and I became a instant believer.
Finally someone does a breakdown comparison of the gx4 properly. I imagine when that trigger gets broken and a little bit it works like a dream.thanks!
I own both the GX4 and the P365 ! I wound up giving the Sig to my son and keeping the X4 and buying another Toro version too ! As far as quality differences? Not much ! Same weight! Same feel! But I truthfully shoot better with the X4’s ! I put a Veridian custom laser on mine and a CT red dot on the Toro ! They are accurate and reliable and the trigger is great! I like a heavier trigger myself! For the price and reliability I like my Taurus’s!
I am awaiting the call to pick up my new Sig P365 🙂. I can’t wait I have been Carrying a Springfield XD 9 subcompact for 12 years now. I am definitely ready for something a bit more compact.
I think the Taurus is going to be a winner if it proves to reliable and I see no reason it wont be. This would make a great entry into concealed carry.
Gx4 XL is the one I’m been thinking about getting . I have a Taurus G3TORO and it’s been really great. Has far has micros go another one is the IWI Masada micro slim 9
I have both. I got the Gx4 for @$250. The grip on the P365 is tiny. I had to put on a Hogue grip. I also upgraded the trigger on the Sig. Still, the Gx4 trigger is much better. I purchased the Sig 2 years ago, the Taurus, several months ago for $300 less. IMO, thus far, the Gx4 seems to be the better buy.
Great review. Thank you. I think the takeaway here are the night sights. Adding the $80-100 to the Taurus is starting to put you in the Sig range price wise. But, can definitely see a very strong market for the Taurus too.
Night sights are a waste of money especially on a defensive Firearms such as this. It's meant for bad breath distances. If you have to have a night site just replace the front on the Taurus its very quick easy and inexpensive, can probably do it for around $30 and you can get one of the hi viz with fiber optic and tritium combo. I have handled both of these and in my opinion other than the roll mark and the pricing there's not much of a difference, even if you install a front night sight on the GX4 your still $200 ahead of the game.
I have more faith in my ability with a firearm, even a small subcompact, to say this is only a “bad breath” distance weapon. This isn’t a cobra .22lr derringer. I prefer to be able to see my sights.. but, I guess it is a matter of personal preference.
@@DS-kc4ck I think their point is, when using this, engagement range will be sub 10 yards more often than not, and night sights arent needed at that distance. Ive been through one, and it was across a car, more or less point shoot distance, and most happen at this distance.
I bought my GX4 for my NEW EDC. Wasn't looking for a firearm that was Red Dot Optics ready or had a 'rail'. I wanted a small 9mm that would be the best for self defense, concealment, yet have quality and be dependable. I wasn't going to be in any shooting competition with the GX4 as I have other firearms for that. Purchased the GX4 at my local Scheels and got the last one in stock at that time. 329.00 Put the Amerigo Glow Dot front sight on and a big+ over the white factory front sight. 29.95 Received the pinky extentions (2) for the two 11 rd mags that were included and that completed the grip for me....good to go with my pinky on board. 9.98 Of course my 13 rd mag has the extension. That's all I needed to do get the GX4 the way I wanted it on my hip.
A co worker tried selling me his used GX4 for 300 bucks. I told him I could get a brand new one for less than 50 bucks more he was like but I only put four rounds through it and I said, I supposed to know that and besides it doesn't matter if you had only one round through it it's still used I offered him 250 and he declined. Oh well, if he thinks a pawn shop will give him more than that he is kidding himself
I don't understand why he thinks it's all ready a norm to have the need to upgrade a gun's parts after buying it new? That's some weird victim mentality, especially for glock fans who think it's acceptable to have that mentality to buy a broken pos at a high price and needs to be immediately upgraded. Weird.
The GX4 come with a Keychain pistol that is the take down lever the bottom of the Keychain where the clip is have a ridge that fit right in the take down slot you turn it and the slide comes right off.
As always, thanks for the great info. Taurus has made very good pistols starting with the pt111, all of the G series, and the TX22. The GX4 looks like they are continuing that quality. I would consider it if I liked micros, which I don't.
Coming from someone that owned both guns.......there is no comparison for me. The Taurus wins hands down. To make the Sig a great gun, you have to do some trigger changes. Right out of the box, Taurus is a better gun.
I have own GX4 and I love it but I still preferred double action trigger system and I might buy sig p365. prices on sig is lot better nowadays compared to few years back. Thank you for your review.
I have purchased three Taurus handguns, all of which I purchased new. All of which have problems. The latest purchase was a GX4XL T.O.R.O. I has the fail to reset problem. I should have taken heed from the first two that are problematic. Before purchase, I would strongly encourage one to research GX4 problems.
Nice video. It boils down to what feels the best in your hand. Taurus since production has started in the US, has stepped up their game. I have a G3c as a boat gun, but its very nice. Most negatives are from people that don't even own one. For what you pay this seems to be a very functional and consistent firearm.
Excellent road test. Actually, the Sig has a 3.1” barrel, but otherwise very fair. I bought the Sig because it has had any kinks worked out, and I got it with the manual safety which doesn’t seem to (yet) be available on the Taurus. I have owned Taurus 9s and think they are great values.
I finally decided to trade in my p365 for a G4X. Don't like the trigger on the Sig and a toro comes red dot ready. I won't miss the night sights. The cheaper mags is nice too plus I think it's prettier and the black finish on the slide is darker.
Not only can you use the KeyChain fob, as mentioned below, the pistol is designed so you can also use a shell casing which you should always have handy. It is unfortunate that the thousands of previous viewers on this video may never learn this truth.
Oh and fyi I’m a fan of Taurus and would love to get my hands of the new GX4! It will be my everyday carry for the summer and I’ll keep my G2C for winter Carry. My G2C is flawless and had it for years with zero flaws or malfunctions.
The magazine empty has a metal edge looking from the back number 5-4 holes looking at by the yellow 45° can be used for screw driver to turn it 45° to release slide
Will you do a review of the Taurus after firing 1,000 rounds through it? I am interested to hear what long term use proves or reveals about Taurus' new pistol designs.
No, you have a key supplied specifically for that. A dime dong work. And bullets don’t work. Don’t believe everything you hear on the internet especially when they just say and not do
Taurus has really stepped up on their guns and getting better customer service. I had a G2C and it is one of the best guns I owned, and I got it on sale for $180. I regret selling it. Bought a gx4xl toro recently, and it feels beautiful. Same size as the p365xl, got it for 340, which is over $200 cheaper. It doesnt feel cheap, its super slim, and its got the 13+1 mags. I like that taurus also sells the gx4 toro uppers in case you want a slightly smaller barrel, and it fits the lower perfectly. Taurus makes great and affordable firearms. I will say, the trigger is heavy and is my only complaint. I think im going to look at their 856 revolvers next.
Rolling breaks vs hard breaks have their advantages and disadvantages. I have taken my P365 to classes and gone toe to toe with people running much bigger guns while using a stock FCU. Yes, I may have made some changes to the slide and the grip module, but the trigger is the same (polished up and broken in from years of use). I will be clear, though. I have changed the slide, added a red dot, added a light, and changed to the wilson combat XL module. But I feel just as capable with this setup as I do with my full-size PDP or my 19.5.
Problem is, the Taurus probably will sell for what I bought my P365 for before the run on guns. Had things not gone crazy, this would probably have gone for $300.
If they're selling the g3, g3s, g3c for $300msrp then it makes sense that their latest model will list for slightly more. Personally, I look to see these on shelves for 360-380. The panic buy for sub compact 9mm carry pistols is essentially over & now the only rush will be on things like pistol braces, upper receivers, binary triggers & maybe even on mags. I haven't seen any price increase or run on mags but doesn't mean it won't happen with the way things are going...
@What's Up? Yeah, it's not like it's becoming an industry standard or anything... 😂 Every other pistol in the same size category offers a red dot option & Taurus had offerings on their other sub compacts... red dots aren't silly, you've just not had the privilege of firing a decent one. Even cops are starting to carry red dots. There are a number of officer involved shootings where the cop had a red dot on his pistol. One of them used one of bull armory sub compacts with rmr... I say you're wrong and they'll have an offering before Christmas...
@What's Up? they're not just for gunfights or targets - some people do still hunt with as well as take their pistols with them as backup while rifle/shotgun... Now, the main issue - the companies usually don't charge that much more for the machined slide versions than they do the non machined. Why do you think theres so much money to be made from people who "need a red dot to shoot inside of 21 feet"? Did you really think they get the extra $ for the red dots themselves? Last time I checked, the only gun manufacturer that was also making optics was Sig, so it's not like there's really any extra $ in it for the manufacturers, just a few extra machining processes when they're doing the rear sight dovetail. If they partner with the optic company & offer the pistol with optic already installed then you just do the math yourself & see the cost differences... There's a couple red dots out there that are absolutely amazing like the new holosun but, like all things, they have advantages as well as disadvantages. They're getting new options all the time, 2 & 4moa dots, a chevron or horseshoe reticle, things that allow for a 2nd p.o.i reference instead of just using Kentucky windage on irons. There are production pistols today that are factoey zero'd well past your "21" or 30 feet or whatever it is you set your targets at & think everyone else does too... Have you always been an ass, or did the Taurus cause that? I'm just trying to figure out why the industry talks sh¡t about Taurus owners - and I think I finally understand...
Just got my gx4 yesterday (put 400rounds of mixed ammo with no issues today)... Have a Sig. For me, I almost prefer the Taurus. Trigger is nicer, less snappy, and I really don't care for the night sights on the Sig. That said, I would trust either one of them and may change to the Taurus for EDC
Taurus offers a 12 and a 14 rn mag on the website. They have stripped down that thing and made it smooth as hell on the sides left off features like accessory rails and other garb to change what does weapon was intended for. I get it and I got it 💚 also they give you the option to carry the tool in your pocket with your car keys at all times
The KeyChain is the Tool :)
Hah I see that now!
Must have that.
Use the rim of a case.
@@raymondo8881 Exactly! This is copied straight from Beretta Nano, and on that gun, the take down screw WAS designed for you to turn using just the rim :)
@@raymondo8881 I would use my teeth
It's funny how many commenters listen to your expertise/knowledge/experience about how the Taurus is every bit the quality with better ergos than the Sig but comment that the Taurus "looks cheaper" (very subjective at the least) and say they will buy the Sig instead. Personally I will save $200 and purchase the Taurus. Put the $200 into a holster and ammo instead.
As someone who owns a Taurus G3, I can vouch for the low quality of the finish on the slide and the barrel hood. Beyond that, the gun is top notch.
I love my G3C, which has a rail too. I put on a laser and I can shoot fast and easy. You spend more money in ammo than price of weapon anyway.
Just got the gx4
@@DLordSadow gX4 has a better finish.
its Funny , I Have Sigs and I Have Taurus, when I Bought My Taurus I Never expected to Have the Feel of a 226, Kimber, HK or any of the Higher Priced Firearms Out there, I bought because of the price, and will still do so, if you dont like Taurus , dont buy it , simple as that, but if you have not shot one or all you are doing is Parroting what your friends Uncles brother said, this is 2021, Not 2007,I Have never Had any Problems with CS from Taurus, But there will ALWAYS BE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT ANYTHING , Taurus Build a Great Gun , Now its too expensive , Quality is Up, But not like Kimber or a Emperior Scorpion 226 Tacops, or But they want it at 250.00, then its too cheap!! cant be good, Wow !!!
The GX4 has the same or better performance for almost half the price. Most 365s are $500-$600, I just bought the GX4 at Academy for $306 and a 13 round mag for $20
I just bought my GX4 for $275 before the government charges.
You cant beat that. Have you had any trigger issues? Remember to contact TAURUS so they can keep improving their quality. The big boys are a little to comfortable about their high asking priceses. We need a new peoples champion right now.
@@fauxchung3189 I'm a lifelong resident of Georgia, USA. That being said, Taurus manufactures the GX4, along with many other models at their facility in Bainbridge, Georgia. A friend of mine has a GX4, and he has only had good things to say about it. I gave it a go at the range, and it performed flawlessly. Like everyone knows, the price is too sweet to pass up for a solid firearm like this. Also, from what I hear, their customer support has significantly improved as well. I still see comments hating on the them, but I'm definitely gonna take a chance and see for myself.
Merry Christmas
@@ChrisfromGeorgia Merry Christmas
Something you people aren’t considering. As good as the Taurus might be, when you go to sell it, it’s still a Taurus. It’ll be worth maybe $200. But the sig, you’ll get $550 no problem. It doesn’t lose its value. I like both brands, but the sig will always be worth more
I swore I'd never own a taurus semi auto. I tried out a GX4 and didn't hate it. Then PSA had them for 299. I was looking for a pocket pistol. My taurus arrives tomorrow.
How is it?
@@poontang7435 It's fantastic. It's been reliable enough that it's my carry pistol when I need a tiny gun rather than a full sized. If you are considering one, get it. The recoil is surprisingly manageable, the trigger is pretty darn good. The misfires I've had have come from a batch of bad ammo (my Beretta had the same issues with that batch) and not holding it firmly enough when practicing weak hand only. The grip is good for such a tiny gun, but it's still a tiny gun.
Lol I see ur review on psa
@@rope103mc2 I don't remember leaving one, but I hope it was5 stars. I still very much like this gun. And right now they have a rebate on them. Anyone who is on the fence should just buy one.
What kind of pants would a GX4 fit in a pocket? My LCP Max is the largest pistol that can fit in a pocket while still being able to draw it. Any larger and it would take two hands to draw
The small gun-keychain has a bladed end that can be used as a disassembly tool. Good comparison video!
Yes, about the keychain fob doubling as a breakdown tool. That should have been mention in vid
I was was going to say that also.
Dude. After a video like this I feel like I owe you some money or something. Unfortunately I don't have any. Great video sir.
Have both and I prefer the gx4
I paid $199 at PSA for my PT 111 Millenium. Works like a champ. Feels like a champ. Carries like a champ. Shoots like a weapon designed to protect my life or my loved one's lives.
I am very happy with this weapon.
Buying the Sig
The Beretta style takedown on the Taurus is meant to be turned with a case rim or the bottom blade on the "handle" of the keychain
Taurus are underrated. Good vid. Thanks👍!
@Frank Bonazza III Good to know. Thanks!
Not underrated, id say only recently reliable with the g series. I actually carry a g3c though. People shit on me but i shoot much better with it than my glocks or sig p365 and its comfortable on me as a big guy for cc
@@akilyasharahla that's what I've heard. Thanks👍
Excellent review and thank you
@Frank Bonazza III Its called a damn shortage on materials and supplies. All industries are hurt by this right now.
Yes I'm the guy who will buy it because I want the key chain.
It would help if you would read the GX4 manual. The key chain is the slide release tool. Also, if the Sig was used it would have an advantage with the trigger pull. The GX4 loosens up after 300 rounds.
Funny! My 3 GX4 models have 1000 rounds through them and the triggers are the same! The slide springs are a little looser but not much!
Taurus has 13 round mags for the gx4 on its website
And 15’s also
The Sig fits my hand perfectly, very smooth and no misfires at the range It is my edc
as said before by someone, you do not need a tool to take down the GX4, a 9mm round casing (the end of the round) will do the job, so anywhere the gun is your ammo will be there also
Interesting. I don't like the size of the keychain thing they give you and I'd rather not have to carry an additional tool like a screwdriver - that would be even worse. If the casing works as you say the problem is solved.
@@DATo_DATonianIt works fine. Just be sure the lip of the casing is seated tight into the screw slot so you don’t strip it. I love my GX4.
Got me seriously considering selling one of my pistols to make room for the gx4. Really like what they did with the full length stainless rails & the e.z. takedown... I can't wait for a 1K round status update to see how it holds up
I got mine at acadamy 413.00 out the door, wonderful gun, one of the best triggers, at least look at it.
@@ronmoman8825 if I could find one & actually put hands on it I would most likely buy it. I just can't find one in stock inside of an hour drive from my home & whenever I do, by the time I actually get to it they've already sold it. I'm thinking of just having my FFL place a factory direct order through their distributor for a gx4 and a tx22 then just wait for them to come in. I was originally hoping to get my hands on a PSA Dagger but I think that ship has sailed...
@@ronmoman8825 get back to me after you put 600 or so rounds through it. The most I've seen is about 350 and so far its looking very good
There is a 2000rd torture test on you tube. I know a guy who says he put 10k rounds thru his gx4 but I can't confirm
Personally, I've put just over 800rds of various 9mm thru mine over the last 4 months and it has performed flawlessly. Solid pistol that is worth more than it costs.
Man, what a huge upgrade over my Sig 365 and 365XL. More real estate for the off hand which is important for shooting these micro's. Thank God that Tarurus saw that hulky take down lever and slide Stop and did not go the same route, but made it flush. I love the take down of the Taurus. Just use anything, like a round casing or magazine. I could not believe I got mine for under $350.00. Really nice build quality. I mean NICE! Love the all steel chassis, the nice rails, the gun slide rides so smooth. And I love the Trigger for EDC. The Definite, controlled break at the wall is just perfect for EDC. Bravo to Taurus, a really great firearm By the way, this was my first Taurus and I became a instant believer.
Taurus gx4 is a winner & ty for ur detailed comparison vid.
Finally someone does a breakdown comparison of the gx4 properly. I imagine when that trigger gets broken and a little bit it works like a dream.thanks!
I am a Sig Sauer P365 XL owner. It’s great to see videos comparing everything else to it. It makes me feel very confident in my purchase for my EDC.
I have a p938 with a rosewood grip for Church. But I'm going to have to go with the Taurus GX4 for EDC.
@@rogersweet_OP you like to get dressed up for church I see. 😂
@@rogersweet_OP38 special for me lol. I’ll take the gx4 to church when I get one
I own both the GX4 and the P365 ! I wound up giving the Sig to my son and keeping the X4 and buying another Toro version too ! As far as quality differences? Not much ! Same weight! Same feel! But I truthfully shoot better with the X4’s ! I put a Veridian custom laser on mine and a CT red dot on the Toro ! They are accurate and reliable and the trigger is great! I like a heavier trigger myself! For the price and reliability I like my Taurus’s!
@@jameslalley3787 I love my gx4. It has moved to my primary lately
I got a Taurus G3 and G3 c . I absolutely love them.. highly recommend..
I love Taurus too I just can’t decide which one to buy the G3C or GX4
Taurus rocks now. 👍☕😎
Cool review. Love the dollar thing.
I'll roll with the GX4. Never liked the 365 because the grip is too thin for my hands. Taurus has a changeable back strap
Very informative. Thanks for the thorough review. The GX4 looks like a great value.
You can also use any 9mm bullet to turn the spin lock and release the slide, if you keep your gun loaded then you always have a tool👍
I have the Sig and like it. The Gx4 looks to have very nice fit and finish similar to the Sig. Definitely going to check it out.
I am awaiting the call to pick up my new Sig P365 🙂. I can’t wait
I have been Carrying a Springfield XD 9 subcompact for 12 years now. I am definitely ready for something a bit more compact.
GX4 T.O.R.O. (optics-ready version) comes with two 13-round mags. Got mine for $339.
Where?
@@SIR_MAV 309 at family firearms
Got my GX4 toro for $189
I think the Taurus is going to be a winner if it proves to reliable and I see no reason it wont be. This would make a great entry into concealed carry.
I’d like to see the dollar bill test also done with a $5, $10 and $20 dollar bill.
Same
Your review on these guns (head to head) is the best bench top review on RUclips . . . very well done 👍
Gx4 XL is the one I’m been thinking about getting . I have a Taurus G3TORO and it’s been really great. Has far has micros go another one is the IWI Masada micro slim 9
Just use a shell case or any other item like a key and turn it. Simple or use the supplied key chain tool
I have both. I got the Gx4 for @$250. The grip on the P365 is tiny. I had to put on a Hogue grip. I also upgraded the trigger on the Sig. Still, the Gx4 trigger is much better. I purchased the Sig 2 years ago, the Taurus, several months ago for $300 less. IMO, thus far, the Gx4 seems to be the better buy.
I have both. The GX4 gets carried much more than the P365. Just feels better.
Great review. Thank you. I think the takeaway here are the night sights. Adding the $80-100 to the Taurus is starting to put you in the Sig range price wise. But, can definitely see a very strong market for the Taurus too.
I concur. With the cost of sites the price becomes very close. Personally, I don't like the Glock trigger safety either.
Yep.
Night sights are a waste of money especially on a defensive Firearms such as this. It's meant for bad breath distances. If you have to have a night site just replace the front on the Taurus its very quick easy and inexpensive, can probably do it for around $30 and you can get one of the hi viz with fiber optic and tritium combo. I have handled both of these and in my opinion other than the roll mark and the pricing there's not much of a difference, even if you install a front night sight on the GX4 your still $200 ahead of the game.
I have more faith in my ability with a firearm, even a small subcompact, to say this is only a “bad breath” distance weapon. This isn’t a cobra .22lr derringer. I prefer to be able to see my sights.. but, I guess it is a matter of personal preference.
@@DS-kc4ck I think their point is, when using this, engagement range will be sub 10 yards more often than not, and night sights arent needed at that distance. Ive been through one, and it was across a car, more or less point shoot distance, and most happen at this distance.
Just bought a Gx4 for $350 and I noticed that about the keychain being the tool. Ingenious actually. Now youll always have that in case.
I bought my GX4 for my NEW EDC.
Wasn't looking for a firearm that was Red Dot Optics ready or had a 'rail'.
I wanted a small 9mm that would be the best for self defense, concealment, yet have quality and be dependable.
I wasn't going to be in any shooting competition with the GX4 as I have other firearms for that.
Purchased the GX4 at my local Scheels and got the last one in stock at that time.
329.00
Put the Amerigo Glow Dot front sight on and a big+ over the white factory front sight.
29.95
Received the pinky extentions (2) for the two 11 rd mags that were included and that completed the grip for me....good to go with my pinky on board.
9.98
Of course my 13 rd mag has the extension.
That's all I needed to do get the GX4 the way I wanted it on my hip.
Those are exactly the options I did with mine and am extremely happy. Also have an alien gear holster
Thanks for the comparison I like the Sig stay safe.👍👍👍
I've seen the GX4 for $335.00... it's a no-brainer. Taurus is a fine weapon.
A co worker tried selling me his used GX4 for 300 bucks. I told him I could get a brand new one for less than 50 bucks more he was like but I only put four rounds through it and I said, I supposed to know that and besides it doesn't matter if you had only one round through it it's still used I offered him 250 and he declined. Oh well, if he thinks a pawn shop will give him more than that he is kidding himself
269$ here ...brand new
sig.
@@gastondraco5906 that's a steal.
I don't understand why he thinks it's all ready a norm to have the need to upgrade a gun's parts after buying it new? That's some weird victim mentality, especially for glock fans who think it's acceptable to have that mentality to buy a broken pos at a high price and needs to be immediately upgraded. Weird.
Same with a Harley
The GX4 come with a Keychain pistol that is the take down lever the bottom of the Keychain where the clip is have a ridge that fit right in the take down slot you turn it and the slide comes right off.
As always, thanks for the great info. Taurus has made very good pistols starting with the pt111, all of the G series, and the TX22. The GX4 looks like they are continuing that quality. I would consider it if I liked micros, which I don't.
What do you carry?
I love my Sig P365. I was even able to get a very sleek looking light/laser for it for around $150.
I have the Sig p365 but I love guns and will be getting the GX4 very soon.
Also Taurus has the magazine accessories on their website already for the pinky extension, mag extension, etc.
I have 5000 rounds through my G2C, not 1 malfunction ever.
Keltec p11 was the "first in this class"
but the Sig had the name and supply
to be the one ppl remember
True
I felt like I just came from a really good auction. I couldn’t stop listening to this guy. Great Vid!
Coming from someone that owned both guns.......there is no comparison for me. The Taurus wins hands down. To make the Sig a great gun, you have to do some trigger changes. Right out of the box, Taurus is a better gun.
Great presentation. Probably one of the best I’ve seen. I have literally zero questions.
I have own GX4 and I love it but I still preferred double action trigger system and I might buy sig p365. prices on sig is lot better nowadays compared to few years back. Thank you for your review.
Always the best comparisons and Intelligent information. Thanks
He is a top notch reviewer.
I owned 2 P365s. I could not get used to that grip or trigger. Sold both. Went back to Glock. The GX4 looks like what a G43 doublestack should be.
I have purchased three Taurus handguns, all of which I purchased new. All of which have problems. The latest purchase was a GX4XL T.O.R.O. I has the fail to reset problem. I should have taken heed from the first two that are problematic. Before purchase, I would strongly encourage one to research GX4 problems.
Thanks for taking the time to review these two firearms'. I think you covered everything we need to know to make an informed decision.
What did you decide on
@@Honda1k I think I will go with the Sig, since I have more of them and like their grips every so little bit better.
Nice video. It boils down to what feels the best in your hand. Taurus since production has started in the US, has stepped up their game. I have a G3c as a boat gun, but its very nice. Most negatives are from people that don't even own one. For what you pay this seems to be a very functional and consistent firearm.
Just tried my GX4 today. It’s a shooter👍
Great review.the gx4 only needs a truglo front sight and that’s it. I think they run like $40.
Excellent road test. Actually, the Sig has a 3.1” barrel, but otherwise very fair. I bought the Sig because it has had any kinks worked out, and I got it with the manual safety which doesn’t seem to (yet) be available on the Taurus. I have owned Taurus 9s and think they are great values.
I finally decided to trade in my p365 for a G4X. Don't like the trigger on the Sig and a toro comes red dot ready. I won't miss the night sights. The cheaper mags is nice too plus I think it's prettier and the black finish on the slide is darker.
Excellent review and comparison, Sir. Covered all of the important specs. within a fairly span of time
Great review. Sig 365 with safety is ambidextrous. Small, unobtrusive safety is on both sides of frame.
Love both I have both. I like the Taurus look better
Ameriglo front sight for Taurus gx4 is $30
Not only can you use the KeyChain fob, as mentioned below, the pistol is designed so you can also use a shell casing which you should always have handy. It is unfortunate that the thousands of previous viewers on this video may never learn this truth.
Have Tne G3c and the GX4....LOVE them Both!!😃
I've never needed to disassemble any handgun in the field. It seems like it's more a "it might happen" rather than a "It will happen".
Oh and fyi I’m a fan of Taurus and would love to get my hands of the new GX4! It will be my everyday carry for the summer and I’ll keep my G2C for winter Carry. My G2C is flawless and had it for years with zero flaws or malfunctions.
The flat end of a 9mm round will turn the take down switch on the gx4. So you do not need the tool in the field.
its looks to recessed to do that, have u done it?
@@RocksNRuts4 it works I did it I also did it with my nail it hurt a little but it's doable if you really need too
The magazine empty has a metal edge looking from the back number 5-4 holes looking at by the yellow 45° can be used for screw driver to turn it 45° to release slide
Will you do a review of the Taurus after firing 1,000 rounds through it? I am interested to hear what long term use proves or reveals about Taurus' new pistol designs.
Mrgunsngear has a video of what you seek.
I just shot both today, both are great. For me I actually liked the Taurus better I was more accurate and it felt better
You can use a dime or a any 9 mm casing.
it seems too recessed to do that , hav u tried?
No, you have a key supplied specifically for that. A dime dong work. And bullets don’t work.
Don’t believe everything you hear on the internet especially when they just say and not do
I like this review. I would probably go with the Sig. The sights are better, it looks more durable. I got a chance to shoot one and like how it works.
A shell casing works as a tool. I bought a GX4 Optics ready for $282. Comes with the 11 round and a 13 round mags.
The little key chain gun they give you is the screwdriver for removing the slide.
I'd like to see a review of the Canik TP9EliteSC some time.
I second that except TP9SFX
Good review. Although a clone of the P365, the GX4 is a better value. Think I'd pass on both though for either a Hellcat or a Shield Plus.
Great video... always enjoy your approach. I'm looking forward to stopping by your shop sometime... just wish I lived closer
The Gx4 for the win much cheaper and just as reliable as the 365
All you need is a shell casing to turn the slide release on the Taurus. I think they point that out in the manual.... Always read the manual first.
Taurus has really stepped up on their guns and getting better customer service. I had a G2C and it is one of the best guns I owned, and I got it on sale for $180. I regret selling it. Bought a gx4xl toro recently, and it feels beautiful. Same size as the p365xl, got it for 340, which is over $200 cheaper. It doesnt feel cheap, its super slim, and its got the 13+1 mags. I like that taurus also sells the gx4 toro uppers in case you want a slightly smaller barrel, and it fits the lower perfectly. Taurus makes great and affordable firearms. I will say, the trigger is heavy and is my only complaint. I think im going to look at their 856 revolvers next.
Looking into a 9mm of this size, and since the tuarus has been a reliable gun fir me in the pt-111g2 I may give this a go and it’s priced right too!
Rolling breaks vs hard breaks have their advantages and disadvantages. I have taken my P365 to classes and gone toe to toe with people running much bigger guns while using a stock FCU. Yes, I may have made some changes to the slide and the grip module, but the trigger is the same (polished up and broken in from years of use).
I will be clear, though. I have changed the slide, added a red dot, added a light, and changed to the wilson combat XL module. But I feel just as capable with this setup as I do with my full-size PDP or my 19.5.
13 round mags and pinky extensions are both available at Taurus website.
Excellent analysis. Thanks for not performing any Rambo antics like some other reviewers.
Good video. I ended up going with the GX4 XL TORO. Picking it up next week.
I bought the GX4 XL conversion kit. Remove the GX4 slide and simply put your GX4 XL Slide on, plug and play.
Problem is, the Taurus probably will sell for what I bought my P365 for before the run on guns. Had things not gone crazy, this would probably have gone for $300.
If they're selling the g3, g3s, g3c for $300msrp then it makes sense that their latest model will list for slightly more. Personally, I look to see these on shelves for 360-380. The panic buy for sub compact 9mm carry pistols is essentially over & now the only rush will be on things like pistol braces, upper receivers, binary triggers & maybe even on mags. I haven't seen any price increase or run on mags but doesn't mean it won't happen with the way things are going...
@What's Up? I think they could offer a red dot cut & easily charge $425 for these
@What's Up? Yeah, it's not like it's becoming an industry standard or anything... 😂
Every other pistol in the same size category offers a red dot option & Taurus had offerings on their other sub compacts... red dots aren't silly, you've just not had the privilege of firing a decent one. Even cops are starting to carry red dots. There are a number of officer involved shootings where the cop had a red dot on his pistol. One of them used one of bull armory sub compacts with rmr...
I say you're wrong and they'll have an offering before Christmas...
@What's Up? you talk about sheep following others then think all pistol engagement are guaranteed to be 21 feet or less...
Define irony
@What's Up? they're not just for gunfights or targets - some people do still hunt with as well as take their pistols with them as backup while rifle/shotgun...
Now, the main issue - the companies usually don't charge that much more for the machined slide versions than they do the non machined. Why do you think theres so much money to be made from people who "need a red dot to shoot inside of 21 feet"? Did you really think they get the extra $ for the red dots themselves? Last time I checked, the only gun manufacturer that was also making optics was Sig, so it's not like there's really any extra $ in it for the manufacturers, just a few extra machining processes when they're doing the rear sight dovetail. If they partner with the optic company & offer the pistol with optic already installed then you just do the math yourself & see the cost differences...
There's a couple red dots out there that are absolutely amazing like the new holosun but, like all things, they have advantages as well as disadvantages. They're getting new options all the time, 2 & 4moa dots, a chevron or horseshoe reticle, things that allow for a 2nd p.o.i reference instead of just using Kentucky windage on irons.
There are production pistols today that are factoey zero'd well past your "21" or 30 feet or whatever it is you set your targets at & think everyone else does too...
Have you always been an ass, or did the Taurus cause that? I'm just trying to figure out why the industry talks sh¡t about Taurus owners - and I think I finally understand...
I like Taurus products in many cases, in this case, price not withstanding, I prefer the Sig.
Just got my gx4 yesterday (put 400rounds of mixed ammo with no issues today)... Have a Sig. For me, I almost prefer the Taurus. Trigger is nicer, less snappy, and I really don't care for the night sights on the Sig. That said, I would trust either one of them and may change to the Taurus for EDC
Got mine for three0nine and love it. A piece of brass is all you need to break it down but you got the keychain.
A coin, spent shell, the little pistol key chain is the tool, NOT A PROBLEM!
I like the “dollar bill” comparison.
Can’t wait for the GX4 XL.
A month before the gx4 came out I was holding my tx22 and telling my brother they need a tx9,same size as the tx 22 just chambered in 9mm.
Top 5
1. Glock 43x
2. Hellcat
3. p365
4. Sheild plus
5. Max 9
Then probably Taurus at number 6
I love my sig but that Taurus shoots so clean. I ran 5 mags through one and it feels good. It’s modeled after the hellcat but I like it better
Taurus offers a 12 and a 14 rn mag on the website. They have stripped down that thing and made it smooth as hell on the sides left off features like accessory rails and other garb to change what does weapon was intended for. I get it and I got it 💚 also they give you the option to carry the tool in your pocket with your car keys at all times