Anarchism as a way of life

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

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  • @Leftistattheparty
    @Leftistattheparty 3 года назад +617

    I assume that Zoe starts all her conversations like the intro.
    "Hello everyone, *beginnings monologue on anarchism*"

    • @RaunienTheFirst
      @RaunienTheFirst 3 года назад +46

      Her and Shaun. "Hello everyone" gang.

  • @Matthew.E.Kelly.
    @Matthew.E.Kelly. 3 года назад +436

    I much prefer the _process_ of anarchy through anarchism to the common leftist misconception of "smash the state & we'll be fine," which seems to be a similar pitfall to the liberal "just vote harder" answer for improving society. There is so much that must be done, continually, to ensure liberty & equality: solidarity, democracy, they're ongoing _actions_ rather than isolated events or single states of being.
    Anarchism is a living idea.

    • @Birbface
      @Birbface 3 года назад +9

      Hi Matthew, I wonder if you are familiar with the Ghanian symbol of the Sankofa bird? The commonalities made me smile when I heard (I think it was Malatesta or Rocker maybe) that the march to anarchy is not completed today, tomorrow, or in a thousand years, but is a continual process of development.

    • @Matthew.E.Kelly.
      @Matthew.E.Kelly. 3 года назад +7

      @@BirbfaceI had read of it in passing as a symbol but never got specifics til now 😎 I love it. Go back & get it!

    • @zeroclout6306
      @zeroclout6306 3 года назад +18

      Smashing the state necessarily requires building the institutions necessary to suppress its re-emergence.
      Without those institutions you haven't smashed The State you have shuffled the deck of the ruling class.

    • @Netra08274
      @Netra08274 3 года назад +3

      Anti materialist perspectives
      Anarchists are living delusionals

    • @renyreny6940
      @renyreny6940 3 года назад

      Full videos version
      👉ruclips.net/video/xHLy9dR4Cbg/видео.html

  • @willyamst-jean5991
    @willyamst-jean5991 3 года назад +47

    One of my favorite thing about Malatesta is his clairvoyance (not in the supernatural sense of the term). In conclusion in an article called ''Anarchists Have Forgotten Their Principles'', in Freedom, November 1914, where he argues against socialists and anarchists to take part in the war (WWI), ends the article with this : ''Besides, in my opinion, it is most probable that there will be no definite victory on either side. After a long war, an enormous loss of life and wealth, both side being exhausted, some kind of peace will be patched up, leaving all questions open, thus preparing for a new war more murderous than the present''. He was spot on. And throughout his writing you can see this clairvoyance.

    • @ericmuschlitz7619
      @ericmuschlitz7619 3 года назад +1

      But that’s not clairvoyance, that’s just reason and exploration of logical models, why use metaphysical language? It only murks the waters.

    • @justinbowen678
      @justinbowen678 Год назад +7

      @@ericmuschlitz7619 In this sense, clairvoyance means accuracy of prediction. It has nothing to do with the supernatural, but instead just means proximity to truth

    • @l3eatalphal3eatalpha
      @l3eatalphal3eatalpha 4 месяца назад +3

      Like the post, but the word is probably prescience.

  • @perryforsythe6251
    @perryforsythe6251 3 года назад +73

    4:42 “Force cannot be used to establish cooperation amongst equals”

  • @SJKlapecki
    @SJKlapecki 3 года назад +302

    You know, I had never heard of Malatesta when I started getting into anarchy. Kropotkin, Bakunin, Bookchin, Graeber, Chomsky, but never Malatesta. He seems like an extremely interesting and intelligent philosopher, and I'm definitely going to look into him because of this video.

    • @ballisticalrift
      @ballisticalrift 3 года назад +44

      In my opinion, he’s the most clear-spoken (maybe with the exception of Chomsky) and most impactful since he dives into more practical ideas like prefigurative politics instead of utopian ideas.

    • @someonerandom8552
      @someonerandom8552 3 года назад +15

      I, too, will look into Malatesta. I’m just a fledgling Anarchist right now and I’m hungry for information

    • @dumahazz
      @dumahazz 3 года назад +4

      Ja, I thought he was some unheard of thinker when I read his work, especially 'Anarchy', which I've never seen quoted.

    • @Alex-fu3mi
      @Alex-fu3mi 3 года назад +15

      @@someonerandom8552 his pamphlet “Anarchy” is an excellent place to start for an overview. Also At The Café, and if you can find a copy, The Method of Freedom, which is an anthology of his work.

    • @mitchclark1532
      @mitchclark1532 3 года назад +6

      There's a really good (brief) review of The Method of Freedom which can be found on the anarchist library. It's called "Review: The Method of Freedom" and it's by Ian McKay. It also serves as a decent overview of Malatesta's work. Worth checking out if you're interested in Malatesta.

  • @aspektx
    @aspektx 3 года назад +116

    "Adults oppressing children."
    You're the only other source I've heard point this out. Thank you.
    I don't think that Identity Politics in the long-term is the way forward. But I do believe it is necessary for now.
    I've often thought that the last group to be liberated will be children. After all what group has experienced exploitation and oppression from time immemorial, across class, race, and geography--children.

    • @L3gitNinjaMonkey
      @L3gitNinjaMonkey 3 года назад +20

      the channel Saint Andrewism has some great videos on the oppression of children if you haven't seen them already

    • @aspektx
      @aspektx 3 года назад +4

      @@L3gitNinjaMonkey I have not. Thank you.

    • @Trowa71
      @Trowa71 2 года назад +5

      If you predict children to be the last group liberated, should their liberation receive the greatest focus?

    • @aspektx
      @aspektx 2 года назад +11

      @@Trowa71 do you mean refocus away from other movements?
      I have a more organic view. These movements arise in specific populations and they obliquely affect or spin-off other groups and movements.
      Specifically I meant that currently children are most often seen as not having rights. They are treated Iike property.
      It's going to take some serious time, intelligence, and wisdom to crack this open. In places I've seen hints of it. Because of these factors I think that children will be the last liberation.
      Considering the leaps in recognition that LGBTQ and feminism have made in recent years maybe it will begin sooner than I thought.
      Hope this wasn't to rambling.
      If you feel tugged at by the idea of children's liberation, then investigate and see where it takes you.

    • @Trowa71
      @Trowa71 2 года назад +6

      @@aspektx I will investigate further, absolutely! To make a really dumb analogy, when playing a new video game, you could start on easy mode and work your way to hard mode, or you could jump to hard mode. In this case, children's liberation being hard mode. Like, if we super focused on children's lib, would all the oppressions above it (race, gender, class) be taken on by default? Instead of refocusing away to another target, would it be a more accurate and devastating shot on the same target?

  • @euso2008
    @euso2008 3 года назад +112

    Despite being more of an ML I found Anarchy by Malatesta a really concise and straightforward book on anarchist philosophy, I like the fact that it calls out the false dichotomy of individual vs collective freedom that liberals talk about, when in reality they are actually one and the same.

    • @joypomeroy1452
      @joypomeroy1452 3 года назад +28

      I'd recommend Anarchy Works by Peter Gelderloos 💪

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@joypomeroy1452id add onto that pretty much anything written by emma goldman

  • @coololi07
    @coololi07 3 года назад +184

    Dear Zoe Baker, You claim to be an anarchist yet you seem to support Sailor Emma and Sailor Errico's concentration of revolutionary magical girl power. Doesnt sound very horizontal now does it?

    • @badger1296
      @badger1296 Год назад +9

      All hail Sailor Emma! ✊

    • @mm-rj3vo
      @mm-rj3vo 8 месяцев назад +1

      The thumbnail is an edit of Sailor Moon, a popular older anime ​@MikaelArkangil

    • @ThomasMullaly-do9lz
      @ThomasMullaly-do9lz 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yah yah and the crust punks think their anarchy is better than our anarchy

    • @roseproctor3177
      @roseproctor3177 6 месяцев назад

      bahahaha ​@@ThomasMullaly-do9lz

    • @MILOPETIT
      @MILOPETIT 2 месяца назад +9

      You claim to be an anarchist yet you moan when I touch your pro state 🤔 curious

  • @utuelias
    @utuelias 3 месяца назад +4

    19:09 I have learnt to only expect the word 'dissociation' to be used in a psychological context with a very negative implication so I find it really, really interesting to hear it used liked you did here. And I'm _thankful_ for that you did, because it makes me realise that heck, me recognising my dissociation and learning about my quite distinct parts ('I' here being a word used out of clarity and habituation) is... an anarchistic act, actually? Oh wow. It really is, when I think about it, because dissociation is not something I fear, for me it's clarity and organisation and makes me be better able to hear myself and the different and varying needs and thoughts I, we, have.
    No wonder it took just a few months to go from "I'm plural" to also realise I'm anarchistic.
    [Text brought to you by two very different alters from which one is why this text sounds far more formal than my writing usually does. Sorry about that.]

  • @johnoestmannmusic
    @johnoestmannmusic Месяц назад +2

    Awesome video. Similar to the open source movement, it is great to recognise that you don’t wait for perfect circumstances - that the benefits start to emerge just by living it on an individual and local community level. It can only become societal-wide if people like the ideas and opt-in.

  • @FlauFly
    @FlauFly 3 года назад +101

    Anarchy as thing that needs to be constantly produced and reproduced over - I think it's the main message from Ursula Le Guin's Dispossessed.

    • @yonni780
      @yonni780 3 года назад +13

      I recently came across the Dao De Ching and daoist philosophy. When I read it, I realized it had so much overlap with Anarchist philosophy. If there is ever a guide on the day to day practice of anarchism and spirituality, this is it. It was no surprise to me that Ursula Le Guin was inspired heavily by daoism and even made a translation of the Dao De Ching!

  • @unsc2060
    @unsc2060 3 года назад +76

    Sailor Moon Malatesta, now that's something new.

    • @rhubiks8430
      @rhubiks8430 3 года назад +19

      Actually funnily enough it's not new, that was an authentic photograph of Malatesta in 1890s

    • @xgzav3488
      @xgzav3488 3 года назад +7

      Sailor Moon's design was, in fact, inspired by Malatesta's pyjamas

  • @midnightsun2085
    @midnightsun2085 3 года назад +35

    I was honestly thinking about this just a couple of days ago. I'm a novice to anarchy, however I have joined some anarchy related groups and one thing I've picked up is that anarchy is a life style and not a political system. Its a way of living with others to benefit self as well as each other. I hope to join more anarchy groups and other groups associated with mutual aid to practice anarchy. To both enlighten consciousness to prevent from acting out the old system and to make pure inform decisions. Especially when it comes to acts of violence such as sexual abuse. Which still hasn't been dealt with to this day.

    • @joypomeroy1452
      @joypomeroy1452 3 года назад +5

      I'd recommend Anarchy Works by Peter Gelderloos 💪

    • @midnightsun2085
      @midnightsun2085 3 года назад +1

      @@joypomeroy1452 thank you comrade.

    • @joypomeroy1452
      @joypomeroy1452 3 года назад

      @Zen Graves dafuq are you talking about? Just no

    • @CasperTimor
      @CasperTimor 3 года назад +9

      The political system anarchism advocates is libertarian socialism, so anarchism is not a political system per se, but I wouldn't say it's a "life style" either, wich is a notion that sometimes goes in some bizarre paths. I think the best definition of anarchism is the one from the Anarchist Federation of Uruguay, as well as the Brazilian Anarchist Coordination, that are highly influenced by Malatesta, wich is that anarchism is a "political ideology", wich means a set of principles, ideas and practices wich aim to understand social reality as to act on it in a transformative way toward a final objective. So anarchism involves a critique of existing society, a final goal (libertarian socialism), and strategies to transform social reality wich are in line with that goal.

    • @elCamaradaR
      @elCamaradaR Месяц назад

      @@CasperTimor a waste of time is a better definition

  • @TBigDonut
    @TBigDonut 3 года назад +23

    I loved this video Zoe, its certainly thought provoking, i'm glad to have found your channel!

  • @obnoxiousancom2820
    @obnoxiousancom2820 2 года назад +4

    Yet another awesome video from Comrade Zoe!✊🏼🏴 This is now officially my favourite political RUclips channel. Thank you for putting so much time and hard work into your content.

  • @mynamejeff3545
    @mynamejeff3545 2 года назад +6

    Thank you comrade! I'm not an anarchist, but your explanations really help me understand the history and ideals of the philosophy :)

  • @trans_and_gothicpiano2676
    @trans_and_gothicpiano2676 3 года назад +7

    It's always a pleasure to watch your videos
    Have a good day, comrade. We'll go marching on

  • @TheLunarnaut
    @TheLunarnaut 3 года назад +7

    Yet another banger video! Thank you for all that you do, Zoe!

  • @BookofOurs
    @BookofOurs 3 года назад +9

    So proud of Zoe! So happy this is here for people to view!

  • @ewalker1057
    @ewalker1057 3 года назад +13

    The true definition of democracy makes it a synonym to anarchy. Democracy means direct rule by the people.

    • @saggguy7
      @saggguy7 3 года назад +1

      a synonym to anarchy, i’m not so sure about - i think i anarchy is more all- encompassing than democracy as it can extend much further than just government - but I think you’re correct that true democracy is anarchy as applied to government.

    • @ewalker1057
      @ewalker1057 3 года назад +6

      @@saggguy7 Synonym does not mean exact. Both mean rule by the people. Anarchy has no government. Democracy the people choose whether they have a government or not.

  • @twig8523
    @twig8523 3 года назад +30

    Yes, I love the time you spent on the !Xun society. I remember spending time on them in an anthropology course, & most of the class thought it silly. But the value was really apparent to me, & I soon integrated it into my ideological worldview.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад +1

      wouldn't the behavior of the !Xun be considered shit talking a bullying now-a-days? the kind of behavior that would push a school shooting.

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 года назад +3

      @@Andre-qo5ek I don't know, take the example of people helping to haul back game someone hunted - they'll cooperate, work together, and eat together. It seems to me like it's not in practice making the hunter feel devalued, and specially it's not pointed at the guy who didn't manage a kill.
      But I don't know any more about this then what was shown in the video, so I don't know

    • @elijahclaude3413
      @elijahclaude3413 3 года назад +3

      @@Andre-qo5ek This is actually something still kinda done in many other indigenous communities as well as what one may consider 'black' communities from rough neighborhoods. Lighthearted ribbing/joking... its like a passive ego check. Being able to take a joke (even if it sounds rough from outsiders) is an important part of creating/maintaining a community where any person may get lucky one day. Even if that person truly is more 'skilled'... they will be raised to realize the value of community and not become arrogant and forget where they came from.
      Of course, in a capitalistic environment, this is harder to do well because people quickly become envious or greedy (or both) when they or someone else gets a win.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад +2

      @@elijahclaude3413
      i can certainly read "they will be raised to realize the value of community and not become arrogant and forget where they came from." as less than positive ways. i certainly can see ribbing as a self defeating coping mechanism. a control mechanism for those around you. one could even see it as shaming, bullying, policing. is this pessimistic, sure. i am by no means an anthropologist or sociologist to understand culture norms and their effects. it would certainly be be interesting to to see the positive and negative aspects if these coping mechanism.
      in the broadest terms, it could certainly be seen as a control mechanism to not disrupt the status quo.
      ( which makes me wonder who wants to keep the status quo)
      i question if it is in fact a positive reinforcement of community in " rough neighborhoods". I would need to see evidence for that.

    • @elijahclaude3413
      @elijahclaude3413 3 года назад +8

      @@Andre-qo5ek Honestly, pretty much anything can be read in less than positive ways, and I'm not just quibbling. Pretty much every society has problems with how their philosophy and culture does things in one way or another. The question for me is thus which has less problems and why.
      I was being VERY reductive and surface-level with my initial comment. But an important nuance to be made is that this behaviour is typically bottom-up, not top-down... so its not like the community consciously chooses to do as I said, more that such is the result... its a natural form of instilling humility and good-natured loyalty stemming from that humility, as opposed to an individualistic culture where you are raised to believe that you and only you are what matters, thus abandoning the community you came from (I mean actual community, as in your family, and close friends) is the norm.
      Of course theres a lot of nuance here. Many 'rough neighborhoods' don't have this. In fact, many youth are actively raised to leave the bad environment as soon as they can (via college, sports, or music).
      But, at least from my experience, those that have a close, healthy bond with their family engage in this 'ribbing' or 'ego-check' behaviour naturally.
      All of this is from my own observations, understanding, and accumulation of stories from folks that live in such environments though. I would love to see some real anthropological studies done on this topic as well.
      All I can say for sure is that it is indeed a fine balance between good-natured ribbing that builds a healthy sense of humility, vs verbal abuse and manipulation. That difference however, is usually in regards to how egalitarian the relationship is... if its more hierarchical, such as elders (or parents or even older siblings) with more coercive power doing that, than it almost always turns into abuse, but if its fellow peers or if everyone is on equal footing than its just fun because you know the other person actually respects you as an equal.
      Also, there have been many studies about how these non-hierarchical communities do in fact have anti-ego mechanisms to keep narcissistic, egoistic, and psychopathic people from getting into positions of power. I'll share them when I find them again, but a good place to start is the studies done with the Mbuti, the Khoisan (mentioned in the video) and other indigenous peoples.
      And of course, it is a well-known fact that our current individualistic society tends to attract those very same ego-minded, non-empathetic people into positions of power at great cost to our society.

  • @r.w.bottorff7735
    @r.w.bottorff7735 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for freely sharing this, it has helped me to crystallize my own beliefs into a philosophy that i can now share with others still.

  • @meyaomeyao
    @meyaomeyao Год назад +12

    The part about "influencers" made me think about how people in an anarchist society would need to temper their desire to put others on pedestals.. I'm far from an expert in this stuff and am here to learn but from what I've heard so far, it seems like the bulk of the onus for the struggle between the dominators and the dominated falls on former when often, it's the later who gives them the power in the first place.. Someone correct me if I'm off here

  • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
    @user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 года назад +11

    the closed captions at 14:43 read "large gay meat is shared equally among the group" : )

    • @ewalker1057
      @ewalker1057 3 года назад +1

      Gay did not mean the same then. It's only in recent decades that it referred to sexuality.

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 года назад +5

      @@ewalker1057 true, but I'm pretty sure it was meant to be "large game meat", isn't it?
      anyway, just thought it was amusing

    • @ewalker1057
      @ewalker1057 3 года назад +1

      @@user-sl6gn1ss8p Read a comment earlier that took it seriously to mean sexuality. Grew up with gay meaning happy, merriment.

    • @watermelontimes2640
      @watermelontimes2640 2 года назад +4

      If you have time to listen to some songs from the early 1900s, you'll hear singers sing phrases like "happy and gay" or "joy and gay" and what not

  • @kanzeon7729
    @kanzeon7729 2 месяца назад

    Great summary and quite easy to understand for beginners

  • @farty555
    @farty555 3 года назад +3

    This is your magnum opus. Very well written and articulated.

  • @sufferedsage
    @sufferedsage 3 года назад +45

    I would love to hear your perspective on post-structuralist anarchism.

    • @musicdev
      @musicdev 3 года назад +1

      I second this

    • @pygmalion8952
      @pygmalion8952 3 года назад

      deleuze etc?

    • @sufferedsage
      @sufferedsage 3 года назад +1

      @@pygmalion8952 Deleuze for sure, but also the entirety of Anarchism as a movement reckoning with post modern philosophy. Though poorly named, post-anarchism has become increasingly interesting to me after years being an ancom.

    • @mynameis9389
      @mynameis9389 3 года назад

      @@sufferedsage Post-left green anarchy? I think Zoe is against this as they advocate for mass movements and I would assume civilization and society

  • @Subzearo
    @Subzearo 2 года назад +4

    Great work, anarchy is a verb as well as a status

  • @afederici75
    @afederici75 9 месяцев назад

    This is a really great material. Thanks Zoe. I showed it to a friend of mine today and he was also appreciating. (thumbs up)

  • @thesunthatneversets4579
    @thesunthatneversets4579 3 года назад +28

    I'm a communist, not an anarchist by any means. I still appreciate your work as fellow leftists, and truly consider you comrades. The video was interesting, and would like to see more! peace and love to all

    • @TheFaithfulRedeemer
      @TheFaithfulRedeemer 3 года назад +6

      Remember Kronstadt.

    • @thesunthatneversets4579
      @thesunthatneversets4579 3 года назад +3

      @@TheFaithfulRedeemer don't be crusty, I still love you

    • @TheFaithfulRedeemer
      @TheFaithfulRedeemer 3 года назад +6

      @@thesunthatneversets4579 ok statist

    • @1997lordofdoom
      @1997lordofdoom 3 года назад +3

      @@thesunthatneversets4579 I bet Lenin said the same thing before he murdered all the workers that dared oppose his dictatorship.

    • @thesunthatneversets4579
      @thesunthatneversets4579 3 года назад +9

      ​@@1997lordofdoom Guys just chill, I came here to spread my solidarity, and now you're conflating me with people I had nothing to do with, did you think to ask what my politics were, I'm not a fucking stalinist just cause i believe in the temporary application of the state apparatus in achieving socialism and then communism, doesn't mean i support the holdomer. Also I was trying to be nice, please don't make this an attack but more of a discussion

  • @badger1296
    @badger1296 6 месяцев назад

    I love you Zoe! ❤️ We need more people like you in the world! 🌎

  • @livpeake8108
    @livpeake8108 Год назад +1

    I learnt about the /Xam people at uni I love how well researched this is! I just wish you poke faster always have to watch your videos on at least 1.25 speed

  • @billysomerville
    @billysomerville 3 года назад +5

    This is wonderful, Zoe!! 🖤❤️ Would you find it helpful to know where the auto-generated closed captions occasionally miss what you're saying? I'm happy to provide time stamps if that would be helpful.

  • @NullStaticVoid
    @NullStaticVoid 2 года назад +5

    Ancaps kind of skip over all of this. They just want to have capitalism without taxes.

  • @mimszanadunstedt441
    @mimszanadunstedt441 4 месяца назад

    Great video, actually answers all the questions I thought to raise through the video.

  • @Bellastoer
    @Bellastoer 10 месяцев назад +1

    the tribe man story is amazing and i will try to add more humility into my day to day interactions.

  • @masterxk
    @masterxk 3 месяца назад +1

    I want to know more of Ricardo Flores Magón, he's anna anarquist from Mexico. We learn about him in school. But never what he wrote

  • @missZoey5387
    @missZoey5387 2 года назад +2

    The quotes Zoe uses from the !Kung comes from a account by Canadian anthropologist Richard Lee entitled Christmas in the Kalahari

  • @endTHEhegemony_Today
    @endTHEhegemony_Today 3 года назад +1

    Yo this was an absolute gold dump!!
    🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
    First video I've seen of yours, and I'm subscribed a.f. Let's learn to live!! Let's do this thing!!!!

  • @nat9909
    @nat9909 3 месяца назад

    This sounds a lot like the principles of governance utilized by the recovery group AA. It's literally written into the founding principles. AAs 12 Steps and 12 traditions are essentially a good starting point for functional anarchy in practice. It seems like it could adapted for the general public.

  • @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031
    @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 2 года назад +2

    Bakunin Lifestyle: Going around the world promoting revolution in 80 countries.
    (It wasn't 80 countries, but he actually went around the world or promoting political unrest or breaking out of prison)

  • @CaptainSnackbeard
    @CaptainSnackbeard 22 дня назад

    Anarchism suggests a methodology first; idealism is secondary.

  • @erin23452
    @erin23452 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @desmondenglish6055
    @desmondenglish6055 3 года назад +2

    Damn this video is what I needed. I have made my way up and down the political spectrum and have considered myself an anarchist as of lately as trying to understand socialism and communism in this climate nobody wants to really listen and gain a new perspective. Thank you for explaining anarchism in this way because I had the same thoughts but did not know how to articulate them this well. I have also started a blog to help me explain these ideas but to also help other people get into these topics. Just Thank You again!!!

    • @otherperson
      @otherperson 3 года назад +1

      Also check out Anark's videos, especially his video titled Power. Which covers similar ground!

    • @desmondenglish6055
      @desmondenglish6055 3 года назад +1

      @@otherperson Aye Thank You! New content and information to binge. To trade you Saint Andrewism has some of the ideas I expressed but he also talks about Solarpunk which I’ve recently gotten into as well.

  • @nahhwhatisthisaccount
    @nahhwhatisthisaccount 3 месяца назад

    very informative vid :) thank you!

  • @nicolasparadoja1443
    @nicolasparadoja1443 2 года назад +1

    the "problematic" arrow pointing at Hobbes killed me

  • @deeebeee1758
    @deeebeee1758 2 года назад +8

    Great video Zoe Baker. I'd love to see more like this.

  • @DrDanWeaver
    @DrDanWeaver Месяц назад

    Thanks, very useful. You mention Twitter: what platform are you migrating to these days for microblogging?

  • @tagltagl4870
    @tagltagl4870 3 года назад +14

    I really need to read more Malatesta.

  • @lizardking1rock
    @lizardking1rock 3 года назад +1

    Tears comrade tears. Thanks.

  • @wrennifer9984
    @wrennifer9984 3 года назад

    Fantastic video! I'd been hoping to see one like it and it did not disappoint

  • @wraithwrecker_
    @wraithwrecker_ 3 года назад +15

    Jesus, I can understand disagreeing with Hobbes but you didn't need to murder him, Zoe, he's already dead!
    Edit: jokes aside, this was a fucking great video.

  • @ilmc2799
    @ilmc2799 2 года назад +2

    I'm a liberal and I'm looking into anarchy. And it seems like an anarchist idea is that cooperation between men cannot be acheived through force. I just want to know, what will achieve cooperation between men? If not force.

    • @baptizednblood6813
      @baptizednblood6813 Год назад +6

      Glad you’re trying to learn more of the political ideologies and I hope you find something useful in Anarchism. My theory for your question would be through a societal shift in values and “pride”. Meaning that in an anarchist society, being a helpful and selfless member of society will be highly regarded and respected leading to more people naturally wanting to follow suit. As far as how anarchism is achieved over capitalism as it is now, I don’t have a good answer for that

    • @woodygilson3465
      @woodygilson3465 Год назад +3

      Malatesta says that the only acceptable coercion is a good argument.

    • @Neuromancer2310
      @Neuromancer2310 День назад

      ​@@baptizednblood6813 😂😂😂😂 not gonna happen

  • @richardjessiejohnson9108
    @richardjessiejohnson9108 2 года назад

    I’m learning so much. Gracias, Companiera.

  • @pachon8147
    @pachon8147 3 года назад +1

    I'm an Anthropology student and I approve this video (self ad auctoritas (?) fallacy)

  • @LuckyBlackCat
    @LuckyBlackCat 2 года назад +3

    "consciously developing a system of
    social sanctions which effectively and
    proportionally respond to situations
    where a member engages in what Boehm
    terms up-startism"
    YES! And I love how you connect this to egalitarian foraging societies. We have much to learn from them.
    "it is in addition to this very important
    that any sanction system which is
    implemented
    is not itself a new form of domination
    disguised as my opposition to the
    domination of others"
    Yes again!
    Btw, since you're diving into anthropology in this video, it reminds me to recommend the channel WHAT IS POLITICS? (Kind of hard to find in youtube search unless you write it all as one word, WhatIsPolitics.) They're a libertarian-socialist channel that looks at politics through an anthropological lens. One of the best leftist channels on youtube, IMO. I think episodes 7 and 7.1 on patriarchy are particularly good, and so is the most recent video: "10. David Graeber & David Wengrow's "The Dawn of Everything" chapter: The Wisdom of Kandiaronk
    "

  • @PatrickCordaneReeves
    @PatrickCordaneReeves 3 года назад +1

    I often find myself now randomly shouting, "Disregard the constabulary!"

  • @mxrkxo
    @mxrkxo 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video

  • @johnmorgan4124
    @johnmorgan4124 3 года назад +1

    Good vid comrade. Keep up the struggle.

  • @wa5657
    @wa5657 3 года назад +4

    thank you for your hard work, for reals!! i'm a bit new here (on your channel and anarchism as consciously chosen politic), and really appreciate your content as a person who cannot bear reading and understands stuff only explained audibly :з
    your level is still a bit hard for me to digest, but memes help to not lose track, so i thank you for those as well!!

  • @AnarchoPoseur
    @AnarchoPoseur Год назад +1

    Have you heard Murray Bookchin's criticisms of 'lifestylism' within contemporay anarchism? I would love to hear your thoughts

  • @Hans-cs1is
    @Hans-cs1is 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the vid m8

  • @solidaritytime3650
    @solidaritytime3650 2 года назад

    The Kun's strategy for limiting upstartism is so fucking cool. Imagine the feeling of satisfaction.

  • @artemkanarchist
    @artemkanarchist 3 года назад +5

    ❤️🖤Thank you so very much for your work!❤️🖤

  • @AntonSlavik
    @AntonSlavik 3 года назад +2

    These are all very lovely clouds in the sky when it comes to the common ownership of material and means of production. This is something only a life of striving for this ideal can teach you.
    I appreciate the work that's gone into this video essay, however.

  • @silversam
    @silversam 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for this. Anarchist theory isn't always accessible for me, so I appreciate your videos. The reinforcement techniques of the Kun (not sure I've spelled that right) were especially interesting; hadn't heard that before.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад

      wouldn't the behavior of the kun be considered shit talking a bullying now-a-days? the kind of behavior that would push a school shooting.

    • @silversam
      @silversam 3 года назад +1

      @@Andre-qo5ek I suppose it depends on the surrounding culture. Seems to foster a humble day-to-day supporting of one's community in this account of things.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад

      @@silversam a culture of being sarcastic af to eachother, laying down sick burns, crushing self esteem and confidence, sound like bro culture to me. i would have guessed like the anarchist community in general would consider this behavior toxic. so i am surprised its acceptable. i always find what is accepted as "culture" and what is shunned as intolerable to have no real consistency. it seems to me its so subjective it becomes just individual opinion.

    • @silversam
      @silversam 3 года назад +3

      @@Andre-qo5ek yeah I think I hear where you're coming from. Didn't get that vibe from the narrative, but like I said, I've never heard of it before. I don't think it's healthy or helpful to judge a culture based on one brief and very recent blurb on it. As I said above, I only thought it was interesting, and think it's worth exploring further to see why they have found it valuable for generations.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад

      @@silversam yup. the dangers of soundbites. definitely worth exploring.

  • @AR15ORIGINAL
    @AR15ORIGINAL 3 года назад +1

    There was... one word in the explanation of societies against the state which I didn't understand. Upstartism? Somewhere around 14:00

  • @assaf_jerry
    @assaf_jerry 7 месяцев назад

    DAMN this channel is good!

  • @AdamRainStopper
    @AdamRainStopper 6 месяцев назад

    You know, I have some catching up to do, but being out ......... I was like "I can't wait to go see what Zoe has been doing!" I mean yeah, of course I wanted a drink and a smoke and I wanted to see my loved ones and I wanted a good meal and the fresh air and so on. That all goes without saying. I'm glad to be able to get youtube stuff now too though, and some other things online.

  • @mm-rj3vo
    @mm-rj3vo 8 месяцев назад

    I disagree with the notion that certain forms of organizing are not themselves anarchy, because, even though there is currently very little in our lives that does not involve coercive dominance, if you make agreements to the effect that all parties (within a designated group) agree that there, tentatively, exist no coercive hierarchies, you have achieved -practical- anarchy.
    Absolute anarchy is harder to detect, but CAN be detected in very very nuanced ways. It's easier to exemplify in a system of two individuals, but suffice it to say, if there is an active absence of hierarchy in a group, that is materially improbable to come about, it is sufficient to call it practically anarchic, if not a kind of practical anarchy, if not EVER declara le as "absolute anarchy" yet, though I would posit that it is NOT impossible to create absolute anarchy under certain, highly HIGHLY nuanced and extremely intentional circumstances, the likes of which have not yet been made practical

  • @Nikolas100o10oao
    @Nikolas100o10oao 3 года назад

    Phenomenal Video comrade

  • @rb1054
    @rb1054 3 года назад

    Thank you for your work!

  • @xavierestelles9327
    @xavierestelles9327 3 года назад +9

    Hey, I see you use a lot of images from Spain. Have you done a video on the history of anarquism in Spain, and if you haven’t, are you planning to??
    Love your videos by the way

    • @anarchozoe
      @anarchozoe  3 года назад +10

      Haven't but want to. It'll just take a lot of time to research properly.

    • @xavierestelles9327
      @xavierestelles9327 3 года назад +5

      @@anarchozoe That's amazing! I'll wait patiently! It's particularly interesting to me because in history class they basically said: "They killed people and stole form the wealthy, they sucked", and it always seemed like there should be more to that. (I'm Spanish btw)

  • @andrewrandrianasulu_
    @andrewrandrianasulu_ Год назад +1

    Not really big comment, but I guess I have problems maintaining my weakly-anarchist stance today. Like, I was using Linux (Slackware) since 2005, tried to get rid of animal products since 2006 up to mostly today (due to my close encounter with phenomenon called dolphin captivity, expanded quickly to cetacean captivity , animal rights (vs" animal welfare") and further ..) , try to be more dog-friendly than avg human... It all little anarchy-ish things in my life as I expirience it. But sadly this is not viral, may be partially because I am not very social person in person.
    And in last like 6 years I lost a lot of me flame about doing "right (left!) thing". So, it doesn't make me very confident about growing new type of relations while ext. world casually assault you decade after decade. Yes, lifetime activists or just strongly-willed people exist, but evidently I am not one of them.

  • @eveastardust3747
    @eveastardust3747 2 года назад

    Maybe what causes the sense of superiority in the hunter is their domination over animals.

  • @chrishale5213
    @chrishale5213 3 года назад +1

    This and your writings on means and ends really make anarchy feel tangible and practical. I would love insight or a writing on horizontal associations one can start from scratch. What are some good starter associations? For example, a tenants union would be hard mode in America. But would be made easier if some of the group members have proven to succeed in a different but related horizontal association. Their neighbors would trust them and tenants union more readily.

    • @MannIchFindKeinName
      @MannIchFindKeinName 3 года назад +1

      Idk know about the US, but something very nice is a community garden. Or even a community tree.
      It gets people together, and if you have more apples than the originally connected can eat, you have something to share and people can see that those things are not done "cause everyone steals", they are not done because it gives freedom to everyone in its vicinity to reject oppressive systems.
      Here in germany in my circle we have a few people with gardens, due to work hours they cant care for it alone, so its always people just coming and helping, and well, once there is stuff, sharing is the name of the game, cause no one person can eat what you can reap.

    • @MannIchFindKeinName
      @MannIchFindKeinName 3 года назад +1

      Forgot to add a good example.
      We got a shitload of blackberries and also mushrooms around here. Not everyone has nice kitchens or knowledge on the mushrooms.
      So its regularly a bunch of people going out having a fun time collecting things, and once you made jam from the collected berries, you are stuck with a loooooooot of jars. Or on the topic of mushrooms: Its one guiding all the others and in the end you have much more than is edible for a few people before they rot, so again people coming together in groups just sharing a meal.
      I guess cook-outs are a lot like that. Everyone brings something, and then you have more (in choice or quantity) for all involved.

  • @taynamarinifontanela5106
    @taynamarinifontanela5106 3 года назад

    I did not get a notification about this video or the previous one, just so you know

  • @AdamRainStopper
    @AdamRainStopper 6 месяцев назад

    OMG 2:11
    I missed you.

  • @simonpossoz3902
    @simonpossoz3902 3 года назад

    Great vid dr baker

  • @pygmalion8952
    @pygmalion8952 3 года назад +1

    9:14 lmao "unsuccessful hair"

  • @trespass_cali
    @trespass_cali 2 года назад

    It's really interesting how Malatesta describes social aspect of Islam really. Islam, not ISIS not Saudis, actual Islam.

  • @ErrorGaming64
    @ErrorGaming64 3 года назад +3

    7:46 My favorite Malatesta quote. Isn't that from Anarchy and Violence?

    • @anarchozoe
      @anarchozoe  3 года назад +3

      Its from Malatesta's article the two freedoms. Part of it is included as an extract in Malatesta: Life and Ideas, which is where you probably read the quote.

  • @Duragizer8775
    @Duragizer8775 3 года назад +7

    I did a mental spit take at 6:11. That would've made him one old anarchist.

  • @47riley47
    @47riley47 3 года назад

    much love 🕉️♥️

  • @rhubiks8430
    @rhubiks8430 3 года назад +3

    Off topic, but what's the painting at 3:05 called? I know I've seen it before.

    • @anarchozoe
      @anarchozoe  3 года назад +2

      In the Time of Harmony: the Golden Age is not in the Past, it is in the Future by Paul Signac

  • @JaffeCakeINC
    @JaffeCakeINC 3 года назад

    AAAAAH YOUR VOICE IS SO SOOTHING I CAN FALL ASLEEP LISTENING

  • @ΝΙΚΟΛΑΟΣΜΑΡΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-κ2θ

    Commant to me??? No way,Pain fear bulling to me???No wayBrothers and sisters all free 'FREEDOM

  • @leejankowski6608
    @leejankowski6608 8 месяцев назад

    love to hear this but RUclips has blocked me

  • @ViolentSmoker
    @ViolentSmoker 3 года назад +4

    If the utopian ideal is in a constant state of change, so likewise is any method of attainment.

  • @riku32194
    @riku32194 3 года назад

    I jus' tried to view recent a tweet of hers that I got a notification for and it said that there was something wrong and it couldn't be brought up, so, after doing quite a bit of scrolling, I found that all of her tweets have been deleted, but her account's still up

  • @rowbot5555
    @rowbot5555 3 года назад +1

    Those dolphins in the thumbnail reminded me of posadism lol.

  • @trashrabbit69
    @trashrabbit69 3 года назад +4

    Horizontal chads rise up

    • @funkbungus137
      @funkbungus137 3 года назад +1

      Wait wait wait, we gotta do it all at once or we get us a hierarchy

  • @trellanaxoxo
    @trellanaxoxo 2 года назад

    Any beginner books for anarchist?

    • @woodygilson3465
      @woodygilson3465 Год назад +4

      "The Government of No One" by Ruth Kinna
      "The Anarchist Handbook" by Michael Malice
      "The Conquest of Bread" by Peter Kropotkin
      And anything by Errico Malatesta.
      There's also the Anarchist Library available online.

  • @Abraxis-Gnosis
    @Abraxis-Gnosis Год назад

    Check out the movie Triangle of sadness

  • @bearsbreeches
    @bearsbreeches Месяц назад

    Seems to me Malatesta didnt even consider the equality and freedom of women much

    • @anarchozoe
      @anarchozoe  Месяц назад +2

      Malatesta advocated women's emancipation on multiple occasions over several decades. He wrote about it and as editor of anarchist newspapers published articles by anarchist women. It wasn't the main thing he wrote about but he did consider it and advocate it.
      Do you think this because he refers to a society of free men, rather than people? The word in various languages originally meant both men specifically or all humans, including women, depending upon the context. When he refers to "free men" he means free humans. This language is totally widespread across all nineteenth century socialists, including women authors. For example, Emma Goldman writes "only in freedom can man grow to his full stature" but clearly meant both men and women.

  • @gabitheancient7664
    @gabitheancient7664 3 года назад

    cool video

  • @lucianomezzetta4332
    @lucianomezzetta4332 3 года назад +1

    Anarchy is freedom with order. Viva l' anarchia.

  • @reginus
    @reginus 3 года назад +1

    How might one begin to build these structures within the family, i.e. among spouses and children?

    • @3nt3_
      @3nt3_ 3 года назад

      Try to democratize your family decisions for example

    • @Birbface
      @Birbface 3 года назад +7

      Practising the act of decision-making should be both empowering for the individual, and educate them to self-manage and self-direct. Of course you also need the freedom to do this and to put the decisions into practice, that's part of the concept of freedom, one of the three pillars on which anarchist philosophy is generally built

    • @reginus
      @reginus 3 года назад +1

      @@Birbface what are the other two pillars? Can you recommend a reading on that?

    • @chroma._.5986
      @chroma._.5986 Год назад +1

      @@reginusi guess the other two imo are consent and boundaries. teach the kids how to say no to things when they want to, and yes to things when they want to. boundaries should be taught to kids to help them manage how they react to things and the people they want to be around and express themselves around. For the spouse, idk i’m single 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @elCamaradaR
    @elCamaradaR Месяц назад

    Utopia

  • @Andre-qo5ek
    @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад +1

    we where is that anarchist manual already? the anarchist community has been around awhile now. the transcripts of of the discussions of people resolving situations. the omnibus of 1000+ ways to some a single problem, not as an authoritarian book but as a reverence guide. Theory is fine... but where are the actions&results and documentation of those actions&results?

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 года назад +1

      yeah, I think more efforts to document practices are needed. I'm part of a couple of spaces which work via self-management. In one of them we wanted to study this and it was harder then expected to find much material from an anarchist perspective

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 года назад +2

      right, the closest i have found is Beautiful Trouble
      "Beautiful Trouble brings together ten grassroots groups and dozens of seasoned artists and activists from around the world to distill their best practices into a toolbox for creative action. "
      this is all about direct action and not the day to day operations of a community itself though. i really would be great to get a "Plug and play your community reference book"

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 года назад +1

      ​@@Andre-qo5ek yeah, I get that a lot of work is contextual, but even bunch of examples with some analysis on their differences and commonalities would be great.
      I've looked back on a few experiences of mine and I could find some factors to look for that may change how to organize, such as size, expected variation on the number of active members, how/why people are members (say, a coop, a colective or an union), etc. But it's a very limited set of experiences, and I think a lot could be learned by doing this at a reasonable scale.
      That being said, I'll take a look at Beautiful Trouble. Crimethinc has some books also focused on direct action, such as "Expect Resistance" and "Recipes for Disaster"

    • @otherperson
      @otherperson 3 года назад +1

      I haven't started reading it yet but picked up "Come Hell or High Water: a Handbook on Collective Process Gone Awry" for this reason