Thanks! I agree, Moustache did a great job designing their Xroad models and I like the company culture they seem to have there. It would be a fun company to visit someday :D
Lovely bike - perfect commuter. Saddle comfort is always a tricky one (one size does not fit all). Sole gripe is the cafe lock is on top of the seat stays which makes it easier to bust open with a hammer --- Putting it beneath the stays makes for a tougher swing. Those are some seriously good fenders.
a heartfelt thank you to you bro! first time in my life I came to know that i can shift 2 gears down with only one push! what a great function ! best thing after slice bread !
With the newer generation shimano shifters you can even shift down 3 gears with one push. And if you have shimano xt shifters you can not only downshift 4 gears with one push, you can even upsift 2 gears at once with one push.
Sure thing! Yeah, I can't cover every ebike, but I try to cover ones that are interesting and well supported. Moustache does a great job! Do you have this same bike?
Its a really good looking bike but like most euro bikes its a little over priced for what it can do unless you live in Europe. The full suspension model looked gorgeous hope to see a review of that! Hopefully one day US sales will be large enough to warrant some America specific motors from Bosch that really take advantage of our 750watt limit then I would be more likely to throw down some cash!
$4.5K with no throttle, expensive and built for Europe. However, If you live in a city, suburb and your commute to work is short, Pedelec only is fine, it's way cheaper than a good used car, save money on gas, insurance, get exercise and good for Mother Earth.
I see this as a more active bike... it has a great ergonomic setup, can go long distance with the efficient motor and large battery, and has lots of carrying capacity and options with that rack. The fenders are super sturdy and the lights are excellent, especially the headlight. No throttle, that's true, but that makes it Class 1 which can go on more trails and mountain bike areas if you want to take the scenic route :D
There seems to be a mismatch between the given price and the tested bike: the bike is a 2020 Xroad 5 (I nearly bought one with open frame) which had a price around 3700 Euros in France, but the given price is for 2021 Xroad 7 (4500 Euros in France) which switches colors with Xroad 5 (which becomes red). The 2021 Xroad 5 now cost 200 Euros more (3900 Euros), but has better motor (CX); and there is no more full open frame for this model.
Hmm, that's interesting! Thanks for the details Marc. It's tricky for me to get the exact pricing and specs on some of these ebikes because they are sold in Europe, US, and Canada but the official website doesn't list prices in all denominations. It seems like there are also slight differences in components sometimes. In any case, I try to cover what I saw as accurately as possible :)
Yeah, it's a bit heavy... but I understand why. Their fenders and racks are really great. This is a premium SUV commuter type of ebike in my opinion. Just like an SUV, it's off-road capable, but the style and branding feel more luxury for use in an urban setting. That's my take at least. I do really like Moustache as a company :)
Moustache sells reasonable priced bikes as well. The Moustache Samedi 28.1 2020 cost in Europe 2368 dollar, 400 watt battery in the middle. Bosch Active Line. That is what I call a reasonable price for an e-bike with a Bosch middle motor.
Unless they have restricted the models in the states, the xroad5 is not the highest model in the xroad series, it's the 7. Also, the next model down is the xroad 3, not the 2. Another great review though I love the Moustache's
Thanks for the correction, I saw the Xroad 7 FS and might have thought it was the highest in the series. It's amazing to me how these companies can have so many models, sizes, and colors! That's a lot to manage...
@@ElectricBikeReview no worries bud. Yes, the FS versions they reversed the colours, so the green is the 7. In the normal versions the green is the 5. I love that green! I nearly bought the 7fs, absolutely gorgeous bikes. But decided to stick with my 'manual' bike for a while longer and use the muscles I have. Gonna treat my pops to one soon though :)
Aww, thanks for saying so! You made my day, I hope it brought you some fun and interest. I like exploring different products and learning about the companies that make them ;)
I actually wished that I had spent more on my first ebike (it was $2k and much heavier and low-performance than I wanted). I guess it depends on ride style and frequency. I ride everyday and want a bike that's light, fast, and responsive :D
ElectricBikeReview.com I second that. I also wish I got a more powerful class 3 E-Bike. But for leisurely and weekend rides, $2-$3k is my ceiling. Great review as always, Cort!
But this expensive bike weighs 62 pounds. My $2.6k bike weighs 64 pounds. I agree it's wise to spend more but this bike in particular has poor parts in every area.....
Anyone think itd be possible to go for like 12 - 14 hours on a charge on 625wh? Whats the longest you could go with yhe 625? Otherwise i think double battery bikes it is... its just the 625wh version of these bikes are tempting
Yeah, you could definitely go that long... but it really comes down to which assist level is chosen and how much effort you expend as a rider. Tire pressure, your body weight + cargo, the terrain, and even wind all play a role. It's one of those lame answers... "it depends" but yes, I think this battery can go upwards of 100 miles per charge in the lower levels of assist with occasional boost up to Turbo ;)
Good question, I was on the large frame and the crank arms were standard 170mm length. All of the details for this bike are listed here if you want to double check anything else ;) electricbikereview.com/moustache/samedi-27-xroad-5/
Great review as always , I am waiting for delivery of Cube Kathmandu 45 (kmh) 625 , I always get nervous when I see your reviews of nice looking bikes in that type and price range ! Still I'm sure I won't be complaining.! Thanks.
Yeah, it's very capable, an excellent "dual sport" type of product that could handle all sorts of terrain and go the distance. Moustache did a great job here ;)
Value? For almost $5,000.00? I would expect all these things plus another motor in the front and another battery of maybe greater capacity. I won't finish watching this. They probably don't sell a frame for a 5' person.
Hi James! I put "premium" in the title because I feel that's how it is priced. If you want the big battery, custom frame, nice fenders, rack, and lights... that costs money, but it could actually be a good value if you want reliability. They do sell this ebike in four sizes, and have a mid-step version! For $1k less, they have an Xroad 2 with the same frame and similar accessories, but smaller battery, lower-end drivetrain, and cheaper lights :)
Question; what happened to the 6' 2" guy? Also, you often point out issues with things then you praise the same very item. For instance, you complain about the seat, then in the same breath you praise it. The same with almost all your reviews. Gotta wonder if your complaints should be well considered or if your praises are just to appease the loaner.
Hi Gene! I do this because everyone has a different body. I strongly dislike this saddle, but it isn't a cheap part, and I suspect that some people have a better fit with it. My goal is to be objective and impartial... but I still sprinkle in some of my partiality because I like to do that, it's why I share my height and weight and preferences, my backstory etc. I'm trying to give both sides of a perspective when being critical so people are more informed :)
This is a nice bike.... but the price..... I may be wrong but I think you'll see fewer views on videos where you -rightfully- post the (steep) price in the title. It's just difficult to see the value in a bike like this. At this price point, the engineering and ergonomics should be off the hook. I started the video... but quickly skipped to the motor overview and Ride test. Then went to the website and I wasn't really wowed. It looks like they use lots of off-the-shelf parts. I have commented on it before..... e-bikes are going to have a difficult time going mainstream with expensive boutique bikes like this.
I think you're correct... my goal is to cover a broad cross section of interesting products, regardless of view count. Moustache did a great job with this line of bikes, and I chose to cover one of the premium models but also cover the Xroad 2 for $1k less. It's nice to have options! Are there any bikes or brand you'd like to see me cover?
Yep, and the PowerPack 500 vs. PowerTube 500 did exactly that. I'm guessing that if we could get a PowerPack 625, it would also be much lighter than the PowerTube 625 because of the casing design. I do like the clean look of PowerTube batteries, they just weigh so much more... Some companies have handles or straps (Trek and Riese & Müller respectively). I know Bosch can do a great job, so I try to communicate what I see as trade offs or misses in the hopes that they strive for more in the future.
@@ElectricBikeReview PowerTube weighs a lot more,, huh ,, I did not find that put in my research, I just thought this sleek integrated battery was a next gen innovation.
@@Bootrosgali Yeah, the PowerPack 500 weighs about 5.7lbs and the PowerTube weighs about 6.4lbs completely naked. Many companies add covers, which further increases the weight... Moustache does a great job with the lightweight plastic cover here, but it doesn't lock to the frame and still adds just a little bit of weight... all without a handle :/
Yeah, the frame is pretty custom. They did a great job with strenght, and I suppose it costs a lot to have four sizes and two colors. They used the high-capacity battery, performance motor, and upgraded drivetrain (which all add to the cost). The fenders and rack are customized, and very nice. I'm sure they also paid more for that fork. You can get the same frame with lower end specs and the PowerPack 500 for $1k less, so this is really just the premium model in the Xroad series :)
Nah, you're not wrong, this is an expensive one for sure. It's neat to see the tech, and Moustache sells a bunch of less expensive Xroad versions too. I just chose the high-end one to feature because there are more cool parts to explore :)
Yeah, most of the premium models I cover are going to be in that $5k+ range. For $3.5k I think the Samedi Xroad 2 offers great value... but even it is still above average in cost. I'd really like to see more ebikes at $1,999 with great components to compete with the many $1k and $1.5k products that have okay parts.
The king has no clothes. you are trying to persuade your viewers that a hard tail is comfortable! it's not! full suspension is. Your warbling voice gives away how much your body is being jolted around.
Well, I point out how to optimize the suspension here and praise the fork (because I genuinely think it's great) but definitely prefer a full suspension version... that's why I mention the option and showed the screenshot. The only reason I'd personally get a hardtail is to save money. For light trails and road use, a hardtail works great. Did you notice the part around 26:52 where I was riding over the grassy section? I actually had a lot more to say and commented on the discomfort of one particularly deep rut... but then I cut it because the video was 37 minutes long and I felt like some of it was a little redundant. I'm glad you could see and hear some of the bumps during my ride test, that's why I do it :D
5:17 Frame lock demo, 6:00 Battery pack removal
11:56 Drivetrain details, 13:46 Rear rack details
17:41 Display panel & control systems overview
18:25 Lights demo, 23:48 Ride tests begin
Don't let Simon Cowall ride this one!
EBR is one of the reasons why I bought a Moustache bike,amazing ride,keep up the great work,Michael from Mississauga Canada.
To me it looks like they nailed it 💪 very nice bike for city and semi-offroad .....cool bike
Great review as usual
Thanks! I agree, Moustache did a great job designing their Xroad models and I like the company culture they seem to have there. It would be a fun company to visit someday :D
Lovely bike - perfect commuter. Saddle comfort is always a tricky one (one size does not fit all). Sole gripe is the cafe lock is on top of the seat stays which makes it easier to bust open with a hammer --- Putting it beneath the stays makes for a tougher swing. Those are some seriously good fenders.
That is an excellent insight, Rod! Thanks... I have definitely seen cafe locks below the stays before, and now I know why ;)
a heartfelt thank you to you bro! first time in my life I came to know that i can shift 2 gears down with only one push! what a great function ! best thing after slice bread !
Nice! So glad it helped you learn something new. I appreciate your kind words :D
@@ElectricBikeReview I don't now have much headache as before when I see the red light! God bless you my friend! 🙏
With the newer generation shimano shifters you can even shift down 3 gears with one push.
And if you have shimano xt shifters you can not only downshift 4 gears with one push, you can even upsift 2 gears at once with one push.
Appreciate your thorough review I know you can't compare them to all the Ebikes but you give good insight on mines thanks again guy and keep up
Sure thing! Yeah, I can't cover every ebike, but I try to cover ones that are interesting and well supported. Moustache does a great job! Do you have this same bike?
Great bike, mine is on order. Just can’t see why they don’t have an option on the controller to override the 32km/hour speed limit.
Its a really good looking bike but like most euro bikes its a little over priced for what it can do unless you live in Europe. The full suspension model looked gorgeous hope to see a review of that! Hopefully one day US sales will be large enough to warrant some America specific motors from Bosch that really take advantage of our 750watt limit then I would be more likely to throw down some cash!
I like that idea... a higher powered Bosch motor for North America, and maybe a throttle option :D
Great review! which one you would rank higher, Samedi 27 Xroad 5 or Riese&Muller Charger3 (with deraileur) ?
$4.5K with no throttle, expensive and built for Europe. However, If you live in a city, suburb and your commute to work is short, Pedelec only is fine, it's way cheaper than a good used car, save money on gas, insurance, get exercise and good for Mother Earth.
I see this as a more active bike... it has a great ergonomic setup, can go long distance with the efficient motor and large battery, and has lots of carrying capacity and options with that rack. The fenders are super sturdy and the lights are excellent, especially the headlight. No throttle, that's true, but that makes it Class 1 which can go on more trails and mountain bike areas if you want to take the scenic route :D
@@ElectricBikeReview I see your point, there are bike routes where Class 1 is suspect but allowed and Class 2 is definitely Verboten!
I was wondering if you can try to make a video on the best or some good puncture resistant tires?
There seems to be a mismatch between the given price and the tested bike: the bike is a 2020 Xroad 5 (I nearly bought one with open frame) which had a price around 3700 Euros in France, but the given price is for 2021 Xroad 7 (4500 Euros in France) which switches colors with Xroad 5 (which becomes red). The 2021 Xroad 5 now cost 200 Euros more (3900 Euros), but has better motor (CX); and there is no more full open frame for this model.
Hmm, that's interesting! Thanks for the details Marc. It's tricky for me to get the exact pricing and specs on some of these ebikes because they are sold in Europe, US, and Canada but the official website doesn't list prices in all denominations. It seems like there are also slight differences in components sometimes. In any case, I try to cover what I saw as accurately as possible :)
Pls do some more mouchtache bike reviews, Like the Friday 28.5 city bike .
I'll do my best, keep my eye out for the Friday 28.5! Thanks for the request :D
Nice bike, well appointed with quality components. It's heavy but it could be worse. Viva la Moustache!
Yeah, it's a bit heavy... but I understand why. Their fenders and racks are really great. This is a premium SUV commuter type of ebike in my opinion. Just like an SUV, it's off-road capable, but the style and branding feel more luxury for use in an urban setting. That's my take at least. I do really like Moustache as a company :)
Moustache sells reasonable priced bikes as well. The Moustache Samedi 28.1 2020 cost in Europe 2368 dollar, 400 watt battery in the middle. Bosch Active Line. That is what I call a reasonable price for an e-bike with a Bosch middle motor.
That's great! I like how they are able to offer so many models but still keep a fun down-to-Earth culture. They seem like a really fun company :D
Could you guys do the ENGWE ep2 fat tire 500w ebike?
Unless they have restricted the models in the states, the xroad5 is not the highest model in the xroad series, it's the 7. Also, the next model down is the xroad 3, not the 2. Another great review though I love the Moustache's
Thanks for the correction, I saw the Xroad 7 FS and might have thought it was the highest in the series. It's amazing to me how these companies can have so many models, sizes, and colors! That's a lot to manage...
@@ElectricBikeReview no worries bud. Yes, the FS versions they reversed the colours, so the green is the 7. In the normal versions the green is the 5. I love that green! I nearly bought the 7fs, absolutely gorgeous bikes. But decided to stick with my 'manual' bike for a while longer and use the muscles I have. Gonna treat my pops to one soon though :)
@@StuffOffYouStuff That's awesome! I'm sure he'll have a blast with it. Hope you two get some chances to ride together :D
love your reviews. Thank you.
Aww, thanks for saying so! You made my day, I hope it brought you some fun and interest. I like exploring different products and learning about the companies that make them ;)
Hi guys I have the Moustache friday 2019,have you done a review of this 2019 bike?I know you did the 2018 model.
One thing I learned after owning a few (traditional/e-bike) bicycles is, it's so easy to overspend on components you don't really need. $5k? Yikes.
I actually wished that I had spent more on my first ebike (it was $2k and much heavier and low-performance than I wanted). I guess it depends on ride style and frequency. I ride everyday and want a bike that's light, fast, and responsive :D
ElectricBikeReview.com I second that. I also wish I got a more powerful class 3 E-Bike. But for leisurely and weekend rides, $2-$3k is my ceiling. Great review as always, Cort!
But this expensive bike weighs 62 pounds. My $2.6k bike weighs 64 pounds.
I agree it's wise to spend more but this bike in particular has poor parts in every area.....
@@pharaohsmagician8329 which is the poor part/parts you saw?
Very good review
Thanks Dominic! Hope you're having a great weekend :)
Anyone think itd be possible to go for like 12 - 14 hours on a charge on 625wh? Whats the longest you could go with yhe 625?
Otherwise i think double battery bikes it is... its just the 625wh version of these bikes are tempting
Yeah, you could definitely go that long... but it really comes down to which assist level is chosen and how much effort you expend as a rider. Tire pressure, your body weight + cargo, the terrain, and even wind all play a role. It's one of those lame answers... "it depends" but yes, I think this battery can go upwards of 100 miles per charge in the lower levels of assist with occasional boost up to Turbo ;)
Great bike, great price.
Thanks for the video, stay safe ✌️
Thanks man! You too, happy Friday :D
great bike Court.
Thanks Rob! Hope you're doing well, this was a fun one ;)
The crank arms seem shorter than 160mm which really to me is important
Good question, I was on the large frame and the crank arms were standard 170mm length. All of the details for this bike are listed here if you want to double check anything else ;) electricbikereview.com/moustache/samedi-27-xroad-5/
Great review as always , I am waiting for delivery of Cube Kathmandu 45 (kmh) 625 , I always get nervous when I see your reviews of nice looking bikes in that type and price range ! Still I'm sure I won't be complaining.! Thanks.
Great choice of bikes! I really enjoyed the CUBE Kathmandu and would definitely choose the Class 3 45kmh version myself :D
Really powerfull bike. It’s a bold move against the cars .
Yeah, it's very capable, an excellent "dual sport" type of product that could handle all sorts of terrain and go the distance. Moustache did a great job here ;)
Value? For almost $5,000.00? I would expect all these things plus another motor in the front and another battery of maybe greater capacity. I won't finish watching this. They probably don't sell a frame for a 5' person.
Hi James! I put "premium" in the title because I feel that's how it is priced. If you want the big battery, custom frame, nice fenders, rack, and lights... that costs money, but it could actually be a good value if you want reliability. They do sell this ebike in four sizes, and have a mid-step version! For $1k less, they have an Xroad 2 with the same frame and similar accessories, but smaller battery, lower-end drivetrain, and cheaper lights :)
Question; what happened to the 6' 2" guy? Also, you often point out issues with things then you praise the same very item. For instance, you complain about the seat, then in the same breath you praise it. The same with almost all your reviews. Gotta wonder if your complaints should be well considered or if your praises are just to appease the loaner.
Hi Gene! I do this because everyone has a different body. I strongly dislike this saddle, but it isn't a cheap part, and I suspect that some people have a better fit with it. My goal is to be objective and impartial... but I still sprinkle in some of my partiality because I like to do that, it's why I share my height and weight and preferences, my backstory etc. I'm trying to give both sides of a perspective when being critical so people are more informed :)
Still representing the American dream 🖐️👍
I guess so! How do you mean?! I'm curious about your perspective :D
This is a nice bike.... but the price..... I may be wrong but I think you'll see fewer views on videos where you -rightfully- post the (steep) price in the title. It's just difficult to see the value in a bike like this. At this price point, the engineering and ergonomics should be off the hook. I started the video... but quickly skipped to the motor overview and Ride test. Then went to the website and I wasn't really wowed. It looks like they use lots of off-the-shelf parts. I have commented on it before..... e-bikes are going to have a difficult time going mainstream with expensive boutique bikes like this.
I think you're correct... my goal is to cover a broad cross section of interesting products, regardless of view count. Moustache did a great job with this line of bikes, and I chose to cover one of the premium models but also cover the Xroad 2 for $1k less. It's nice to have options! Are there any bikes or brand you'd like to see me cover?
You want a battery handle but you also want less weight.
Yep, and the PowerPack 500 vs. PowerTube 500 did exactly that. I'm guessing that if we could get a PowerPack 625, it would also be much lighter than the PowerTube 625 because of the casing design. I do like the clean look of PowerTube batteries, they just weigh so much more... Some companies have handles or straps (Trek and Riese & Müller respectively). I know Bosch can do a great job, so I try to communicate what I see as trade offs or misses in the hopes that they strive for more in the future.
@@ElectricBikeReview PowerTube weighs a lot more,, huh ,, I did not find that put in my research, I just thought this sleek integrated battery was a next gen innovation.
@@Bootrosgali Yeah, the PowerPack 500 weighs about 5.7lbs and the PowerTube weighs about 6.4lbs completely naked. Many companies add covers, which further increases the weight... Moustache does a great job with the lightweight plastic cover here, but it doesn't lock to the frame and still adds just a little bit of weight... all without a handle :/
$4.6 I don't think so bro you can get a better bike for that IMO.
Exactly. This bike looks like shit stats wise. The channel is amazing as always though.
I don't get this at all. Too expensive....just a custom frame?, and bolt on's? 4,599.00$?? WHY?
Yeah, the frame is pretty custom. They did a great job with strenght, and I suppose it costs a lot to have four sizes and two colors. They used the high-capacity battery, performance motor, and upgraded drivetrain (which all add to the cost). The fenders and rack are customized, and very nice. I'm sure they also paid more for that fork. You can get the same frame with lower end specs and the PowerPack 500 for $1k less, so this is really just the premium model in the Xroad series :)
Give me a call, let's catch up Court.
That looks like the Xroad 7.
I guess I'm just a tightwad.J.Q.
Nah, you're not wrong, this is an expensive one for sure. It's neat to see the tech, and Moustache sells a bunch of less expensive Xroad versions too. I just chose the high-end one to feature because there are more cool parts to explore :)
Nice bike, absurd price.
Yeah, most of the premium models I cover are going to be in that $5k+ range. For $3.5k I think the Samedi Xroad 2 offers great value... but even it is still above average in cost. I'd really like to see more ebikes at $1,999 with great components to compete with the many $1k and $1.5k products that have okay parts.
The king has no clothes. you are trying to persuade your viewers that a hard tail is comfortable! it's not! full suspension is. Your warbling voice gives away how much your body is being jolted around.
Well, I point out how to optimize the suspension here and praise the fork (because I genuinely think it's great) but definitely prefer a full suspension version... that's why I mention the option and showed the screenshot. The only reason I'd personally get a hardtail is to save money. For light trails and road use, a hardtail works great. Did you notice the part around 26:52 where I was riding over the grassy section? I actually had a lot more to say and commented on the discomfort of one particularly deep rut... but then I cut it because the video was 37 minutes long and I felt like some of it was a little redundant. I'm glad you could see and hear some of the bumps during my ride test, that's why I do it :D
learn how to pronounce basic French.....It's not that hard.
It's very expensive
Matej matej
As compared to ?
@@Sampardhanani Other e mtb