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I love basketball more then any other sport (by far)...btw I'm from Serbia! I just want to say that BasketNews is my favorite channel, a lot of people from Serbia can't wait to see the next episode. I would also like to say that IMO Lithuania should be here, at least in QF... basketball without both Lithuania and Serbia is not a TRUE competition, i hope I'll see You guys on next big tournament! Once again - LOVE&RESPECT FOR BASKETNEWS, and our Lithuanian rivals and Friends - from Serbia! p.s. Wish us luck, we'll need it!
Enjoying your Eurocentric View on all games and the semi-final preview. Your group has details on the other teams that lack here in the US. Your pod has made this Olympic Basketball experience more entertaining. Your group is fan serious and comedic at the same time. Looking forward to the post semi-final analysis.
I love basketball more then any other sport (by far)...btw I'm from Serbia! I just want to say that BasketNews is my favorite channel, a lot of people from Serbia can't wait to see the next episode. I would also like to say that IMO Lithuania should be here, at least in QF... basketball without both Lithuania and Serbia is not a TRUE competition, i hope I'll see You guys on next big tournament! Once again - LOVE&RESPECT FOR BASKETNEWS, and our Lithuanian rivals and Friends - from Serbia! p.s. Wish us luck, we'll need it!
I'm american and love how Serbia team and their coach just don't quit. They just adapt. Hope they can give the NBA team (a.k.a USA) a big run in the semis. FIBA is my favorite basketball to watch by far. I'm weird in that my favorite team in international basketball is always who plays against the USA. I'm cheer for USA big time in soccer/football. Basketball is complete reverse. Games NOT involving the USA have been the most enjoyable to watch. I watched 3 of the QF games yesterday on Tv. Good guess which one I skipped..ha ha
I have been watching basketball since the 80s and I have always supported you,of course not against Greece. I am glad to have watched all basket legends.
As big as I am a luka doncic fan, I have to admit mortiz Wagner is so funny and really one of the most likable nba players I heard talking of the court. He and Franz are a great match and are really great personalities
Canada choose to play small ball and decide to switch on every play. France recognised the mismatch and just fed the big man down low, who had a favorable match up, Canada had to foul every time or it's was easy bucket every possesion.
Germany got their mouths smashed in during the first quarter, but the ability to adjust by both the coaches and the players is unmatched in recent years. They make the right reads, they ramp up defensive intensity aswell, and especially their defense is one of the most overlooked aspects of their success. Everybody talks about the sexy free flowing offense, but it is often on defense where they set the base of their success against stronger opponents. I am extremely interested to see how France tries to counter them in the second game, and if Germany can make it to the finals, how much of a problem they will present to the US team, if they can handle Serbia. Tbh I would love to see Germany vs Serbia rematch but sadly that chance is very slim right now, but one can still hope :)
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed. Germany allows by far the least ammount of points in this tournament. The level of defense this team can play is just crazy good. Everyone knows exactly what to do, when to switch, when to drop, when to fight over/under screens... you just see that the core of this team knows each other for years. Germany is the best TEAM of the tournament by far.
@@jTA597 With Jokic playing a full 40 and the bench having a combined 20-35 while holding the U.S. under 90. Good luck to them. If the rest of the U.S. plays how they've been playing and Steph shoots 44% or higher from the floor it's over.
@@jTA597 Exactly 💯. I'm an American 🇺🇲, but those Serbian MEN can hoop. However bench depth, monstrous USA effort, and living and dying by the 3 ball killed them. IMO Serbia is the second best team in this Olympic Basketball tournament. THIS was the gold medal match.
@@zenitsuthunder3946 yeah 100% and the Aussies can have such scoring explosions that probably surprises them aswell at times. I hoped for Australia vs USA just for the sheer amount of crazyness that could have happened during this matchup but now I just hope that Serbia can somehow find that magical ingredient for their Rakija before the game, so they can proove all of us wrong and beat team USA before anyone else has the chance.
What do you think of Pesic's statement after the draw, when he said that in order to win gold, you have to lose the warm-up game and the preliminary round game so badly that the Americans themselves believe later in the tournament that they cannot lose.
Obviously there are weaknesses in every team in the Greek team they were more obvious; The German team is more clear about what they will do inside the pitch and they have a proven recipe. In very simple terms what is common in all Germany games is that their offence will either shoot from the 3 point or under the basket nothing in between and they make more attacks than their opponents do because of the loose ball/transition game so even on an average stats day they still have an edge.
Greece threw that game away. They really lost the game in the 4th quarter. The problem is that role players for Germany stepped up and provided points/solutions. Greece played their starters pretty much the whole game and by the 4th quarter they were excausted
I was not having high hopes for Greece but the disrespect this team got is frustrating. Sure the rest of the squad was not in par with Giannis but nobody is in par with Giannis. They tried really hard, the gave hard time to all opponents, and there was no single game that could not have gone the other way if for some details. Greece was not one of the top teams in the tournament but they did better that their results speak of.
I agree with you. Honestly the gap between the 2nd best and the 7th best teams in the tournament is very very tight. In the QF. Its USA #1 (unfortunately), Brazil was clearly the weakest of the 8. But 2 through 7 has been a crapshoot. Between France, Canada, Germany, Serbia, Australia, and Greece. Any one of those teams can be the other any day.
Honestly. The result isnt even that bad. Germany was probably the favorite if the US Choke this and greece could have won against anyone Else and made a good game the first half. Nothing to disrespect, they played a good tournament
I don't think there was disrespect. You simply believed in your team while most of us thought they had slim chances to beat the reigning world champions with no real 3pt shooting.
I'm glad you praised Batum for his work in the shadows, and our Euroleague players for their domination. Lessort and Yabusele made me shout in front of the TV, they rendered the Canadian helpless. They made Dillon Brooks suffer and become humble, and if you've watched Canada's games in France, you know how much it mattered to the French crowd! Cordinier was a great surprise, I would never have expected him to do that much! Fournier's three pointer made me jump and shout out of joy, it was a Dame Lillard type of shot! Also, congratulations to you to clearly state that refereeing was not an issue. Some North Americans, not knowing any Euroleague players, thought it had to be because of the refs because otherwise three players they've never heard of could not beat NBA players (even though those NBA players are Powell and Birch! XD). I actually thought the refs whistled a bit against us in a few instances. Great show overall! :-)
yeah lots of casuals with these "but free throws!" arguments... I was on the refs all tournament long to favour France, but they deserved the win last night. Nothing to complain about when Canada was hacking like crazy, there is no need to argue about refs.
The future of Greece is like the last 10 years. No new talent!!!!! I have been waiting 10 years now for the Antetokounbo brothers 3 or 4 to play together but nothing. The truth is that Giannis Era had no sharp shooters around him or new talent. Also, i admire the spanish players like Fernandez and Luil playing every summer, but in Greece we have Sloukas and Papapetrou who can shoot that didnt want to go to the Olympics.
Yeah, its strange. GReece has a big history if it comes to Basketball and 2 top clubs in Europe. Still they struggle to find players who can perform on the top level in international tournaments.
As a FIBA fan. I hate the officiating of France vs Japan / Canada. It was very obvious like every minute France goes to the line. Canada only had SGA and Barrett scoring lots but the refs clearly ruined the game. If refs help France beat Germany then that is the biggest disgrace to olympics basketball. Sad SGA won't get a medal. Jamal Murray is not aggressive whatsoever.
France 24 fouls, Canada 26 fouls dude what are you saying ? The fact that Lessort and Yabuzele were murdering Canada inside has zero impact ? Just corruption of the refs explains the free throws ? Have you watch the game if not why do you think your opinion has value and is worth sharing ?
@@vedeved5246uncharacteristic soft calls for FIBA games. They called every little contact. If you compare it to other games this Olympics (SSD games, Brazil, Greece) it was horrible to watch felt like an nba game
Canada has been great. The fact they got a real bad draw, first group then for QF caught up to them and they tired out I think. If they got a draw the USA got, they would be in the semi finals no problem.
I think when you are the underdog,you start by going full power in order to confuse the opponent,gain a big difference,hoping you can keep it and win. Then you get tired and lose focus,so you make errors,miss shots and clutch teams with many effective players from the bench find the solutions and win in the end. I am Greek,but we don't have the shooting guards of the past. The same happened with Australia and I knew Serbia would have won in the end. I watched only the first 2 qf and I think German bench won the match and also the genius Jokic with the help of Bogdanovic.
If Yabusele, Cordinier and Fournier play like this again Wemby hits his shots and Rudy shows up, it's going to be an amazing game. I'm psyched for this one.
@@zenitsuthunder3946 I think it could be more competitive this time around too, if french coach finds some adjustments that actually work, but I am not too sure. Germany seems to have a good gameplan against anything France throws at them, and they still even haven't played their absolute best yet.
Mo Wagner is an underrated player and his footwork is actually elite for a big. He´s also smart in using his body. In the group game against France Mo went right into Wemby´s body a few times. He also bullied him in the NBA once by moving him out of the way and dunking on him. Mo Wagner was also the guy that defended Giannis and Wemby the best since he´s Germany´s strongest guy. Would be a different story if Hartenstein was on that roster. So Germany has another gear from the talent perspective.
Liotopoulos and Avdalas are two promising and talented prospects from the U18 Greek national team who could become valuable assets for the senior national team, though they are still quite young. Alexandros Samodurov is also considered a prospect but I don't see any development in his game. Hopefully he gets stronger and more playing time in a smaller team. However, there are players who already deserve a shot at the national team, such as Omiros Netzipoglou (21 years old, named the best young player of the 2021/2022 season). He is a shooting guard with better talent than someone like Larentzakis, for example. I was surprised that he wasn't even invited to the pre-selection. Instead, players like Moraitis and Lountzis were invited who even though they are good players, they had little almost no playing time throughout the year with their respective teams.
You know team USA beat Serbia two times in past month, but as old saying goes "Third time is the charm". Let's hope USA will be overconfident and Serbia will have the game of their life. Just as you guys said if we don't get smashed in the first half but instead surprise them and than make shitshow out of the second half we can win it. It would be orgasmic to watch KD, Lebron, Tatum, Embiid, Davis and the rest of the crew nervous, arguing and disappointed.
What do you think of Pesic's statement after the draw, when he said that in order to win gold, you have to lose the warm-up game and the preliminary round game so badly that the Americans themselves believe later in the tournament that they cannot lose.
Great points guys about Giannis's defence. I was in Lille on Friday (vs Australia) and I can tell you this is not the same player defensively as Giannis from 2020-22. He finished the game with 0 defensive rebounds (and 2 offensive rebounds). These are numbers that are unheard of for Giannis. In addition to all of the points you raised, I think it's also a combination of (1) he's not 100% ready physically right now (we have to remember he is coming back from a serious injury that kept him out for 3 months), and (2) I wonder if, physically speaking, this is just part of a downwards trend from the incredible heights he reached; Giannis is 29, with a few serious injuries now behind me, and his knees in particular might be constraining him
it feels almost as if Giannis is a bit fed up with how the team has developed over the years and he basically has to carry all of the weight year in and year out, similar to maybe how Nowitzki had to do back then. A thankless job with very little chance for success as there are always some puzzle pieces missing for the big success.
@@MrSheduur I don't think it's a mental/attitude thing at all, Giannis tries his absolute hardest when he puts on the jersey of our national team and he's particularly inspired to play for coach Spanoulis. He played to 100% of his abilities in this tournament. Think it has more to do with coming back from a serious injury plus some of the technical points around his strengths on the defensive end that the guys analysed in the video
Lets be honest our last chance is the next eurobasket if Yiannis can help us. Papanikolaou Calathes and sloukas close to their last tournament joined by healthy Kostas and Thanasis Antetokonmpo , Papapetrou Rogavopoulos Toliopoulos Kalaitzakis Walkup or Dorsey(id pick Walkup everyday ) and Mitoglou may have a chance to get a medal .
For people who say the game was rigged, please watch the game. Canada choose to play small ball and decide to switch on every play. France recognised the mismatch and just called for pick and roll to get the switch, then just fed the big man down low, who had a favorable match up, Canada had to foul every time or it's was easy bucket every possesion.
There is no rule about technical after non-existent time-out called in FIBA. It exists only in NBA & Nielsen, who is Pop's assistant, tried to bring to refs. But it's not NBA, so Australians should learn rulebook better.
For Greece its a pity that we have Giannis and we didn't invest to younger players to support him. That's for Angelopoulos brothers and Giannakopoulos......
@@simonhollis5256I know you’re ignorant but can you at least try ? Every single of these ft were deserved and won cause Canada was unable to defend without committing fouls, we saw in France vs Germany that there wasn’t a lot of ft and Germany was able to defend France without fouling
Giannis had 3 personals before the end of the first half. Could not play rough in defense for most of the game even if he tried. Serbia had 3 heroes: Bogdanovic when chipping away the difference, Misic at the end. Jokic almost lost them the game at the end: 3-4 missed shots in less than two minutes, his ball was stolen. Redeemed in ovetime with his last shot, a block and 2 deflections.
True, Thanasis and Rogavopoulos are better than NBA players like Hartenstein and Kleber (who weren't included due to inner disputes within the German team). I don't wanna hear BS that they couldn't make the difference since they weren't starters in NBA because all the players Greece was missing (even Sloukas, who had a great season with his club) aren't NBA caliber either.
It can either be dorsey or walkup because even though dorsey's mum is Greek dorsey is considered naturalized the same as walkup. So there is the dilemma.. better shooting or better defence and ball movement? And i dont even know if dorsey wants to pe part of the team..he seems uninterested to me.
Greece u18 eurobasket roster is good. At the u20 we did well and got 3rd. Next generation is good. We have Zougris who could be the next Kyle Hines. There are good guards at least on the level of toliopoulos. There is kostas antetokoumpo who will be a good backup big definitely more active than the flop that is papagiannis. Dorsey will be a great replacement for walkup. We are a top 8 European team. Nothing more.
Pesic always says that its the defense that wins championship. If Serbia plays defense strong and shots follow through they have a chance just like in Indianapolis against Reggie Miller and the gang. Defense wins all!
not with the same amount of quality. Dennis is quite a unicorn in what he brings to the table, but german U18 just recently won the Eurobasket and I am sure that some of those guys could be a good fit in the future. I doubt that Dennis will quit anytime soon. So we still have a few years to find the next leader.
Must subscribe, you Lithuanian guys are awesome! . To win against the USA is good for the rest of the world. To prove you CAN win against them. Plus, Serbia is one of the last "clean' nations in terms of national teams. It counts a little bit more. Let it be what can not be, let the struggle be continuous. Нека буде што бити не може, нека буде борба непрестана. Живела Србија!
SGA is a Bad playmaker. He is Bad at making His shooters shoot right Off the pocket. He has a high class roster with Pick and Roll players and even potential 5 Out Line Ups. Just imagine Luka doncic having such a roster
Future of European basketball is throught America (Ncaa and Nba) every talented and present star for any European nation plays there, Giannis,Jokic,Luka, Wagner many more are products of thier own work and talent,not thiet countries system, so it will be race who has most talented kids abroad to succedd
Some of them were refined and got a bit more skilled with the collegiate system but they all got their high basketball iq, defensive skills, moves, etc. when being trained in their home country. Luka was already a superstar in Madrid. Franz already played for the senior team with ALBA. Jokić the same and only Giannis was a very raw player coming into the league.
Yes we german have some player play in the NBA, but they learned the game in germany this counts even more for serbia, Lithuania ... We make big changes in the german training system ~15 years ago, which obviously worked out. Yes maybe the medication in the NBA helps, also the hope to earn big time there makes it easier to commit to such a career decision.
In regards to Moritz Wagner tweet and the general conversation about "energy", "behavior" etc: I am surprised 3 Lithuanians find nothing wrong on provocative trash talking attitude. I have rarely seen in my life (35 years of playing, watching, coaching basketball) a player raised and coached in a former Soviet (or a basketball affiliated) country behave like a douchebag. For sure, the NBA has a huge responsibility enhancing those kind of behaviors, as the US consider basketball more of a product and less as a sport. Giannis did that too, for a few years, but now has returned as humble as in 10 years ago. It's all about principles, sportsmanship and respect to the opponent. You should agree that historically the Germans, in particular, are not actually famous for their respectfulness towards ...the rest of the world.
Go outside and touch some grass 😂. Germans are very friendly and respectful towards foreigners… the nazis ruled for 13 years, their history is much longer. Trash talk is a way to motivate and fire up yourself and your teammates. Mo uses this perfectly to generate energy for the team and gets into his opponents head. Also Mo never says something disrespectful or offensive he’s just talking all the time about random stuff like daily life, weather, food, the city or which restaurant is good 😂This sport is not only physical but also mentally very demanding. Giannis does the exact same thing with trash talk and stare downs till this day, watch some Bucks games
brudda, it's basketball we're talkin about here, what are you on about... basketball is first and foremost a form of entertainment by the people for the people and nothing more. Guys like Mo, Embiid just make it more entertaining besides the actual game & you treatin this like its a serious matter smh
oh noes he did a mean tweet... why should we care? and tbh I doubt he meant any harm, he is always clowning around before and after games, so I would not take anything he says as gospel.
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I love basketball more then any other sport (by far)...btw I'm from Serbia!
I just want to say that BasketNews is my favorite channel, a lot of people from Serbia can't wait to see the next episode. I would also like to say that IMO Lithuania should be here, at least in QF... basketball without both Lithuania and Serbia is not a TRUE competition, i hope I'll see You guys on next big tournament! Once again - LOVE&RESPECT FOR BASKETNEWS, and our Lithuanian rivals and Friends - from Serbia!
p.s. Wish us luck, we'll need it!
Great stuff guys! Do you guys only speak English when on the air and speak Lithuanian to each other when off?
@@WyldStallion-bs9oo that’s correct 😅
Enjoying your Eurocentric View on all games and the semi-final preview. Your group has details on the other teams that lack here in the US. Your pod has made this Olympic Basketball experience more entertaining. Your group is fan serious and comedic at the same time. Looking forward to the post semi-final analysis.
Agreed. I'm american and Basketnews is by far the basketball commentary I listen to the most.
@@WyldStallion-bs9oo yup, no agenda bs from ESPN and others in this. just pure tactics and level headed analysis.
I love basketball more then any other sport (by far)...btw I'm from Serbia!
I just want to say that BasketNews is my favorite channel, a lot of people from Serbia can't wait to see the next episode. I would also like to say that IMO Lithuania should be here, at least in QF... basketball without both Lithuania and Serbia is not a TRUE competition, i hope I'll see You guys on next big tournament! Once again - LOVE&RESPECT FOR BASKETNEWS, and our Lithuanian rivals and Friends - from Serbia!
p.s. Wish us luck, we'll need it!
I'm american and love how Serbia team and their coach just don't quit. They just adapt. Hope they can give the NBA team (a.k.a USA) a big run in the semis. FIBA is my favorite basketball to watch by far. I'm weird in that my favorite team in international basketball is always who plays against the USA. I'm cheer for USA big time in soccer/football. Basketball is complete reverse. Games NOT involving the USA have been the most enjoyable to watch. I watched 3 of the QF games yesterday on Tv. Good guess which one I skipped..ha ha
I agree , really sad that i didnt follow this channel earlier ! Always good stuff
I have been watching basketball since the 80s and I have always supported you,of course not against Greece. I am glad to have watched all basket legends.
As big as I am a luka doncic fan, I have to admit mortiz Wagner is so funny and really one of the most likable nba players I heard talking of the court. He and Franz are a great match and are really great personalities
42 free throws for France in a game where they had 82 points. Nothing to do with them hosting the Olympics or anything.
France 24 fouls - Canada 26 fouls. Canada was just trash at guarding inside the paint
I can tell you did not watch the game and that you are a morron!
Greetings
Canada choose to play small ball and decide to switch on every play. France recognised the mismatch and just fed the big man down low, who had a favorable match up, Canada had to foul every time or it's was easy bucket every possesion.
Lessort was a headache for Canada, as he always is for anyone not prepered to play against him, him alone shot at least 15 free throws
@@jorisoims3085 Exactly.
Guys you 're doing great! THANK YOU for your content day by day... Greetings from a greek basketball-lover living in Germany,
Germany got their mouths smashed in during the first quarter, but the ability to adjust by both the coaches and the players is unmatched in recent years. They make the right reads, they ramp up defensive intensity aswell, and especially their defense is one of the most overlooked aspects of their success. Everybody talks about the sexy free flowing offense, but it is often on defense where they set the base of their success against stronger opponents.
I am extremely interested to see how France tries to counter them in the second game, and if Germany can make it to the finals, how much of a problem they will present to the US team, if they can handle Serbia. Tbh I would love to see Germany vs Serbia rematch but sadly that chance is very slim right now, but one can still hope :)
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed. Germany allows by far the least ammount of points in this tournament. The level of defense this team can play is just crazy good. Everyone knows exactly what to do, when to switch, when to drop, when to fight over/under screens... you just see that the core of this team knows each other for years. Germany is the best TEAM of the tournament by far.
Great analysis guys. First time watching, I’m convinced.
Jokic and Bogdanovic need to combine for at least 55 points if they want to have a chance of winning
And the team collectively has to shoot more than 40% from 3
@@jTA597on a huge volume
@@jTA597 With Jokic playing a full 40 and the bench having a combined 20-35 while holding the U.S. under 90. Good luck to them. If the rest of the U.S. plays how they've been playing and Steph shoots 44% or higher from the floor it's over.
@@Rob.N. Damn, what a game. 0/9 from 3 in the 4th was brutal as was Jokic getting into foul trouble early in the 4th. But a classic nonetheless.
@@jTA597 Exactly 💯. I'm an American 🇺🇲, but those Serbian MEN can hoop. However bench depth, monstrous USA effort, and living and dying by the 3 ball killed them. IMO Serbia is the second best team in this Olympic Basketball tournament. THIS was the gold medal match.
Serbia will play its first match against a European team in the final or for third place. I'm just noticing something interesting...
What do you notice? That there are less european teams in the Olympics then World Cup?
Serbia will realistically lose by 20 or 30 points, but what is important is that the boys will do their best!
when talking matchups. Aus matches against USA better. But if Serbia play as good as they did against aus then it could be a closer game
Well it’s not a super surprising Usa will win the gold i hope Serbia gets the bronze at least this team deserves it honestly.
@@zenitsuthunder3946 yeah 100% and the Aussies can have such scoring explosions that probably surprises them aswell at times. I hoped for Australia vs USA just for the sheer amount of crazyness that could have happened during this matchup but now I just hope that Serbia can somehow find that magical ingredient for their Rakija before the game, so they can proove all of us wrong and beat team USA before anyone else has the chance.
What do you think of Pesic's statement after the draw, when he said that in order to win gold, you have to lose the warm-up game and the preliminary round game so badly that the Americans themselves believe later in the tournament that they cannot lose.
I think only Germany can challenge USA for gold
Love it! Watching you guys all the way from Brazil
Obviously there are weaknesses in every team in the Greek team they were more obvious; The German team is more clear about what they will do inside the pitch and they have a proven recipe. In very simple terms what is common in all Germany games is that their offence will either shoot from the 3 point or under the basket nothing in between and they make more attacks than their opponents do because of the loose ball/transition game so even on an average stats day they still have an edge.
Who would have thought France would beat Canada with no Rudy and Wemby only scoring 7pts. Yabusele, Cordinier and Fournier had an incredible game.
Don't forget Lessort, Canada had no answer
Canada would’ve won if they had Zach edey they had zero big man presence on either side of the floor
dont forget 37 free throws thanks refs
That's literally the reason why they won
@@zenitsuthunder3946
Dude... France 24 fouls Canada 26 fouls what are you saying ?
Have you watch the game stoopid ?
Keep in mind that Antetokounmpo played after an important injury and wasn't playing 100%. I think that made him more careful on defence
great analysis guys. I really enjoyed how you analysed Greece's game in the quarterfinal
Greece threw that game away. They really lost the game in the 4th quarter. The problem is that role players for Germany stepped up and provided points/solutions. Greece played their starters pretty much the whole game and by the 4th quarter they were excausted
I was not having high hopes for Greece but the disrespect this team got is frustrating. Sure the rest of the squad was not in par with Giannis but nobody is in par with Giannis. They tried really hard, the gave hard time to all opponents, and there was no single game that could not have gone the other way if for some details. Greece was not one of the top teams in the tournament but they did better that their results speak of.
facts
No Sloukas, no win.
I agree with you. Honestly the gap between the 2nd best and the 7th best teams in the tournament is very very tight. In the QF. Its USA #1 (unfortunately), Brazil was clearly the weakest of the 8. But 2 through 7 has been a crapshoot. Between France, Canada, Germany, Serbia, Australia, and Greece. Any one of those teams can be the other any day.
Honestly. The result isnt even that bad.
Germany was probably the favorite if the US Choke this and greece could have won against anyone Else and made a good game the first half. Nothing to disrespect, they played a good tournament
I don't think there was disrespect. You simply believed in your team while most of us thought they had slim chances to beat the reigning world champions with no real 3pt shooting.
I'm glad you praised Batum for his work in the shadows, and our Euroleague players for their domination. Lessort and Yabusele made me shout in front of the TV, they rendered the Canadian helpless. They made Dillon Brooks suffer and become humble, and if you've watched Canada's games in France, you know how much it mattered to the French crowd! Cordinier was a great surprise, I would never have expected him to do that much! Fournier's three pointer made me jump and shout out of joy, it was a Dame Lillard type of shot!
Also, congratulations to you to clearly state that refereeing was not an issue. Some North Americans, not knowing any Euroleague players, thought it had to be because of the refs because otherwise three players they've never heard of could not beat NBA players (even though those NBA players are Powell and Birch! XD). I actually thought the refs whistled a bit against us in a few instances.
Great show overall! :-)
yeah lots of casuals with these "but free throws!" arguments... I was on the refs all tournament long to favour France, but they deserved the win last night. Nothing to complain about when Canada was hacking like crazy, there is no need to argue about refs.
4:30 not playing Giannis in 1st qtr more was a huge mistake which allowed Germany to come back sooner.
The future of Greece is like the last 10 years. No new talent!!!!! I have been waiting 10 years now for the Antetokounbo brothers 3 or 4 to play together but nothing. The truth is that Giannis Era had no sharp shooters around him or new talent. Also, i admire the spanish players like Fernandez and Luil playing every summer, but in Greece we have Sloukas and Papapetrou who can shoot that didnt want to go to the Olympics.
Not want? Why?
@@dekipet small injuries and full season with Panathinaikos.
Yeah, its strange. GReece has a big history if it comes to Basketball and 2 top clubs in Europe. Still they struggle to find players who can perform on the top level in international tournaments.
As a FIBA fan. I hate the officiating of France vs Japan / Canada. It was very obvious like every minute France goes to the line. Canada only had SGA and Barrett scoring lots but the refs clearly ruined the game. If refs help France beat Germany then that is the biggest disgrace to olympics basketball. Sad SGA won't get a medal. Jamal Murray is not aggressive whatsoever.
France 24 fouls, Canada 26 fouls dude what are you saying ?
The fact that Lessort and Yabuzele were murdering Canada inside has zero impact ? Just corruption of the refs explains the free throws ?
Have you watch the game if not why do you think your opinion has value and is worth sharing ?
@@vedeved5246 Those trolls, seriously. 😔
@@vedeved5246uncharacteristic soft calls for FIBA games. They called every little contact. If you compare it to other games this Olympics (SSD games, Brazil, Greece) it was horrible to watch felt like an nba game
Canada has been great. The fact they got a real bad draw, first group then for QF caught up to them and they tired out I think. If they got a draw the USA got, they would be in the semi finals no problem.
@@vedeved5246 i watched the game of lessort and yabuzele free throw game no bag whatsoever just free throw merchants.
France deserved the win. Canada clearly started the game lightly and were full of themselves.
I think when you are the underdog,you start by going full power in order to confuse the opponent,gain a big difference,hoping you can keep it and win. Then you get tired and lose focus,so you make errors,miss shots and clutch teams with many effective players from the bench find the solutions and win in the end. I am Greek,but we don't have the shooting guards of the past. The same happened with Australia and I knew Serbia would have won in the end. I watched only the first 2 qf and I think German bench won the match and also the genius Jokic with the help of Bogdanovic.
germany is beating france again!!!
If Yabusele, Cordinier and Fournier play like this again Wemby hits his shots and Rudy shows up, it's going to be an amazing game. I'm psyched for this one.
i think france will get more competive now but if refs help france again to beat germany i'm done lmao
But are they beating France + Refs ?
@@zenitsuthunder3946 I think it could be more competitive this time around too, if french coach finds some adjustments that actually work, but I am not too sure. Germany seems to have a good gameplan against anything France throws at them, and they still even haven't played their absolute best yet.
Home Court refereing is a real thing you can expect crazy calls tonight against Germany
Mo Wagner is an underrated player and his footwork is actually elite for a big. He´s also smart in using his body. In the group game against France Mo went right into Wemby´s body a few times. He also bullied him in the NBA once by moving him out of the way and dunking on him. Mo Wagner was also the guy that defended Giannis and Wemby the best since he´s Germany´s strongest guy. Would be a different story if Hartenstein was on that roster.
So Germany has another gear from the talent perspective.
Liotopoulos and Avdalas are two promising and talented prospects from the U18 Greek national team who could become valuable assets for the senior national team, though they are still quite young. Alexandros Samodurov is also considered a prospect but I don't see any development in his game. Hopefully he gets stronger and more playing time in a smaller team.
However, there are players who already deserve a shot at the national team, such as Omiros Netzipoglou (21 years old, named the best young player of the 2021/2022 season). He is a shooting guard with better talent than someone like Larentzakis, for example. I was surprised that he wasn't even invited to the pre-selection. Instead, players like Moraitis and Lountzis were invited who even though they are good players, they had little almost no playing time throughout the year with their respective teams.
You know team USA beat Serbia two times in past month, but as old saying goes "Third time is the charm". Let's hope USA will be overconfident and Serbia will have the game of their life. Just as you guys said if we don't get smashed in the first half but instead surprise them and than make shitshow out of the second half we can win it. It would be orgasmic to watch KD, Lebron, Tatum, Embiid, Davis and the rest of the crew nervous, arguing and disappointed.
What do you think of Pesic's statement after the draw, when he said that in order to win gold, you have to lose the warm-up game and the preliminary round game so badly that the Americans themselves believe later in the tournament that they cannot lose.
Great points guys about Giannis's defence. I was in Lille on Friday (vs Australia) and I can tell you this is not the same player defensively as Giannis from 2020-22. He finished the game with 0 defensive rebounds (and 2 offensive rebounds). These are numbers that are unheard of for Giannis. In addition to all of the points you raised, I think it's also a combination of (1) he's not 100% ready physically right now (we have to remember he is coming back from a serious injury that kept him out for 3 months), and (2) I wonder if, physically speaking, this is just part of a downwards trend from the incredible heights he reached; Giannis is 29, with a few serious injuries now behind me, and his knees in particular might be constraining him
it feels almost as if Giannis is a bit fed up with how the team has developed over the years and he basically has to carry all of the weight year in and year out, similar to maybe how Nowitzki had to do back then. A thankless job with very little chance for success as there are always some puzzle pieces missing for the big success.
@@MrSheduur I don't think it's a mental/attitude thing at all, Giannis tries his absolute hardest when he puts on the jersey of our national team and he's particularly inspired to play for coach Spanoulis. He played to 100% of his abilities in this tournament. Think it has more to do with coming back from a serious injury plus some of the technical points around his strengths on the defensive end that the guys analysed in the video
Lets be honest our last chance is the next eurobasket if Yiannis can help us. Papanikolaou Calathes and sloukas close to their last tournament joined by healthy Kostas and Thanasis Antetokonmpo , Papapetrou Rogavopoulos Toliopoulos Kalaitzakis Walkup or Dorsey(id pick Walkup everyday ) and Mitoglou may have a chance to get a medal .
For people who say the game was rigged, please watch the game.
Canada choose to play small ball and decide to switch on every play. France recognised the mismatch and just called for pick and roll to get the switch, then just fed the big man down low, who had a favorable match up, Canada had to foul every time or it's was easy bucket every possesion.
Its rigged 42 freethrows? Oh pls
There is no rule about technical after non-existent time-out called in FIBA. It exists only in NBA & Nielsen, who is Pop's assistant, tried to bring to refs. But it's not NBA, so Australians should learn rulebook better.
For Greece its a pity that we have Giannis and we didn't invest to younger players to support him. That's for Angelopoulos brothers and Giannakopoulos......
My predictions: France 91- Germany 85. USA 104- Serbia 92
Germany 93- France 83
USA 112 - Serbia 93
Australia were standard as they always are, we were terrible and in the end thank God we pulled through.
That blue DDR Adidas retro t-shirt is so good n.
Canada prepared for NBA players from France, and the Euroleague French appeared and got them.
Yeah, Euroleague referees giving France 42 free throws
@@simonhollis5256I know you’re ignorant but can you at least try ? Every single of these ft were deserved and won cause Canada was unable to defend without committing fouls, we saw in France vs Germany that there wasn’t a lot of ft and Germany was able to defend France without fouling
Giannis had 3 personals before the end of the first half. Could not play rough in defense for most of the game even if he tried.
Serbia had 3 heroes: Bogdanovic when chipping away the difference, Misic at the end. Jokic almost lost them the game at the end: 3-4 missed shots in less than two minutes, his ball was stolen. Redeemed in ovetime with his last shot, a block and 2 deflections.
Please do not forget that Greece played without Sloukas without Kosta without Thanassis and without Rogavopoulos and Germany was complete!
So ? You will still lose with them anyway
True, Thanasis and Rogavopoulos are better than NBA players like Hartenstein and Kleber (who weren't included due to inner disputes within the German team). I don't wanna hear BS that they couldn't make the difference since they weren't starters in NBA because all the players Greece was missing (even Sloukas, who had a great season with his club) aren't NBA caliber either.
Even with then Greece would lose
It can either be dorsey or walkup because even though dorsey's mum is Greek dorsey is considered naturalized the same as walkup. So there is the dilemma.. better shooting or better defence and ball movement? And i dont even know if dorsey wants to pe part of the team..he seems uninterested to me.
After the timeout when Brazil reduced the difference to eight, USA got a 21-2 run. Sad haha
Greece u18 eurobasket roster is good. At the u20 we did well and got 3rd. Next generation is good. We have Zougris who could be the next Kyle Hines. There are good guards at least on the level of toliopoulos. There is kostas antetokoumpo who will be a good backup big definitely more active than the flop that is papagiannis. Dorsey will be a great replacement for walkup. We are a top 8 European team. Nothing more.
Allegedly Srbia also has new Kyle Hines...it is Filip Jović. 🙂
No
Germany also has a roster of role players starring in their roles. Franz ist going to be different, but He is Not yet
Pesic always says that its the defense that wins championship. If Serbia plays defense strong and shots follow through they have a chance just like in Indianapolis against Reggie Miller and the gang. Defense wins all!
yiannis is an athletic help defender he needs space to move and fiba courts not his best
and for sure, not in his best condition
Because I only occoasionally watch basketball, does germany have young players, that could take Schröders guard position in the future?
Not on his Level, no. There are some good players in the BBL but no NBA Level Talent on this Position im afraid.
not with the same amount of quality. Dennis is quite a unicorn in what he brings to the table, but german U18 just recently won the Eurobasket and I am sure that some of those guys could be a good fit in the future. I doubt that Dennis will quit anytime soon. So we still have a few years to find the next leader.
@@MrSheduur ok. I mean Dennis is 30 now and his playstyle relies a lot on his speed, I think, so maybe 2.4 more years on that level.
Where is Rytis?
BlaževićIUS, JasikevićIUS, HomićUS, KarnišovAS
France got 40% from Free Throw lines and could got even 50%! It's a little bit sus to get so many fouls.
Must subscribe, you Lithuanian guys are awesome!
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To win against the USA is good for the rest of the world. To prove you CAN win against them. Plus, Serbia is one of the last "clean' nations in terms of national teams. It counts a little bit more.
Let it be what can not be, let the struggle be continuous.
Нека буде што бити не може, нека буде борба непрестана.
Живела Србија!
Did he say say something in around 15:00 "anonymous Twitter Greeks are stupid"... Really now?
whois General Lee?
So why when the Orlando Magic need a tough shot don’t pass the ball to Moris Vagner? Maybe they don’t watch the Olympics.
+25 easy for team usa vs serbia
IF GREECE HAD SLOUKAS THANNASIS AND TYLER DORSEY WOULD HAVE MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE HUGE
Is Walkup a naturalized player? If so he and Dorsey would swap the spot on the team right?
@@captainzursee3071 yes, we chose walkup.
@@StavrosLoudis is that good or bad? Because I see many Greeks rather want Dorsey to be on the team.
No, they would lost even with Michael Jordan in the team
SGA is a Bad playmaker. He is Bad at making His shooters shoot right Off the pocket. He has a high class roster with Pick and Roll players and even potential 5 Out Line Ups. Just imagine Luka doncic having such a roster
Nah, you said Olympics mafia! France will win.
Future of European basketball is throught America (Ncaa and Nba) every talented and present star for any European nation plays there, Giannis,Jokic,Luka, Wagner many more are products of thier own work and talent,not thiet countries system, so it will be race who has most talented kids abroad to succedd
Some of them were refined and got a bit more skilled with the collegiate system but they all got their high basketball iq, defensive skills, moves, etc. when being trained in their home country. Luka was already a superstar in Madrid. Franz already played for the senior team with ALBA. Jokić the same and only Giannis was a very raw player coming into the league.
Yes we german have some player play in the NBA, but they learned the game in germany this counts even more for serbia, Lithuania ... We make big changes in the german training system ~15 years ago, which obviously worked out.
Yes maybe the medication in the NBA helps, also the hope to earn big time there makes it easier to commit to such a career decision.
IS GIANNIS OVERRATED ON DEFENCE ARE YOU SERIOUS GIANNIS IS A GOD SHAQ SAID WHEN GIANNIS CAREER IS OVER HE WILL BE IN THE BEST 5 PLAYERS EVER
What???Euroleague is better than NBA!🤣in your dreams man!
Ever heard of sarcasm😂
Serbia win, you are whining.
In regards to Moritz Wagner tweet and the general conversation about "energy", "behavior" etc: I am surprised 3 Lithuanians find nothing wrong on provocative trash talking attitude. I have rarely seen in my life (35 years of playing, watching, coaching basketball) a player raised and coached in a former Soviet (or a basketball affiliated) country behave like a douchebag. For sure, the NBA has a huge responsibility enhancing those kind of behaviors, as the US consider basketball more of a product and less as a sport. Giannis did that too, for a few years, but now has returned as humble as in 10 years ago. It's all about principles, sportsmanship and respect to the opponent. You should agree that historically the Germans, in particular, are not actually famous for their respectfulness towards ...the rest of the world.
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Go outside and touch some grass 😂. Germans are very friendly and respectful towards foreigners… the nazis ruled for 13 years, their history is much longer.
Trash talk is a way to motivate and fire up yourself and your teammates. Mo uses this perfectly to generate energy for the team and gets into his opponents head. Also Mo never says something disrespectful or offensive he’s just talking all the time about random stuff like daily life, weather, food, the city or which restaurant is good 😂This sport is not only physical but also mentally very demanding.
Giannis does the exact same thing with trash talk and stare downs till this day, watch some Bucks games
As a Lithuanian I was surprised as well to hear them say that...
brudda, it's basketball we're talkin about here, what are you on about... basketball is first and foremost a form of entertainment by the people for the people and nothing more. Guys like Mo, Embiid just make it more entertaining besides the actual game & you treatin this like its a serious matter smh
oh noes he did a mean tweet... why should we care? and tbh I doubt he meant any harm, he is always clowning around before and after games, so I would not take anything he says as gospel.
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GREECE HAS A BIGGER FUTURE THAN LITHUANIA WORRY ABOUT LITHUANIA GUYS
Canada choked badly, were the boys out partying the night before?
Apparently (at least during the WE between group stage and quarterfinals)
Germany is a thing now,soon they will dissapear just like slovenia.Germany is not basketball powerhouse
Just Google "FIBA U18 2024" and you might update your comment.
Germany is here to stay.
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