Chief Joc O Sot and The Curse of Cleveland
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Mesquakie Chief Soc-O-Jot's final resting place is in Cleveland, Ohio but his spirit yearns to be buried with his family near the Mississippi River. Is he the reason the city is cursed?
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I really am impressed with how you always present your story with such respect. Thank you for bring so many long forgotten or ignored bits of history out from the dusty corners.
Such a nice thing to say! Thank you! 😊😊😊
Damn, this was a sad story, the injustice on top of not being buried with his family.
For sure.
Thank you Liz! Always love seeing you here! 😊😊😊
I'm a CSU FMA student, and I walk by this graveyard each day to get to my car. It's so interesting that this history is literally so close to me. Excellent video!
Thanks Isaac! 😊😊😊
Thank you for your very sensitive and moving account! I will say that most of us don't mind being called "Indians", but we don't feel comfortable with using the name for a team, like you would the name of a ferocious animal. Thank you for listening and caring, as always.
Thank you for this Dolores! I love your perspective! 😊❤️😊❤️
I'm native American also but i looked at it as an honor.
@@andreadeamon6419 Fair enough.
That was the saddest most poignant and factual account of one native in Cleveland. I worked with the American Indian Movement and the biggest obstacles was the disrespect and refusal to learn the culture. Thank you. I am so appreciative to become a new subbie.
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Thank you for sharing his story! We visited Cleveland & his grave was the one that really called to us so we snapped a pic for later research. How the natives were treated almost certainly guarantees that we are all living under a curse that will for sure take us all in the end. ♥️😎✌🏼
Well said! ❤️
Another sad but fascinating story. I hope those body snatchers do not rest in peace. What a shocking thing to do. I like how you show so much respect to the people you are talking about, thank you!
Thanks again for watching Kiwi! Hope all is well. Have a wonderful Monday!
Great story! And a wonderful history lesson as well. I had never heard of Joc O Sot, or his story. Sad story, and it makes me even sadder that his last wishes were not honored. He gave respect, but was never granted it. Fun fact, back in the our Day , (1971-1975), when I was in high school, Ohio History was a requirement, and my favorite class. I don’t know if it’s still a requirement or not. Then, it was as important as Government class was. Keep up the good work!
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No they discontinued Ohio's history bcuz I remember never having any thing taught on Ohio's history & I went to High School from 1987-1990.
I took Ohio history as a freshman in 1994.. it was mandatory in Cleveland Public Schools (now called Cleveland Municipal Schools) to take as freshman.. as a junior, at a different school district, they had it as a 10th grade class
@@bradmeans1366 I'm from Portage County & went to Windham Schools they did not have it there.
Another great one thank you for your time, your expertise and for taking us on a walk through history driven by nothing more than our curiosity of history. My heart goes out to the great chief we should all be ashamed by our ancestors that took what once belonged to them God rest all of their souls and God Bless you and your wonderful crew that brings us these great stories 🙏❤
Thank you so much Shawn! I hope you have a wonderful Monday! 😊😊😊
Bingeing your vids and loving it! I’m an Ohioan and history buff and am very happy you are teaching me new things. Thanks!
Thank you Heather!!! 😊😊😊
Such a sad ending to the life of a brave man. Thank you.
Are you certain that the curse you talked about isn't on the browns and not the Indians just saying what a great story enjoyed it thank you for sharing it with us I certainly did appreciate it and all the hard work you and your family do have a wonderful evening John until the next one looking forward to it
Thank you Thom!
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I enjoy the respect ,especially the history, you for every video 😊
Thank you Edith! 😊😊😊
As a Clevelander I am ashamed to say I did not know this story. Thank you so much!
Happy to help Jae! Thank you for watching!
I do love these history stories you tell. I do not recall hearing the names of these Indian tribes. Now I do. It's too bad Joc O Sot could not be buried where he wanted. Great story, John. Have an awesome week.
Thank you Edward! Have a great week my friend! 😊😊😊
I agree.
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I'm a Cleveland transplant from Colorado. Until this video appeared in my feed, I had no idea of this bit of history (nor, indeed, that there was a cemetery located downtown!). Thank you for telling this sad story. If there is an afterlife, may he be at peace and with his tribe once more.
Thank you for watching Lark! You should check the cemetery out if you have time.
@@CuriousHistoryYT I will do so! Ay other important characters I should be on the lookout for? Thanks again!
There are for sure but it also depends on what you’re looking for LOL.
Plenty of haunts and plenty of just history.
Lakeview is an awesome place to start. The President Garfield Memorial is amazing! And so many important figures in the history of Cleveland are buried there
Lakeview Cemetery that is!
It's well past time the history books include more of the heroism of native people like Chief Joc-O-Sot. I hope somehow his spirit will already be in a place of eternal peace and joy, surrounded by the spirits of the people he loved and helped defend.
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Good evening from Derbyshire G B. Great podcast as always ❤❤
Thank you Michaela! I hope you have a fantastic Monday! 😊😊😊
I love how you opened this video!
Thank you Barbara Jean!
Hope everything is great in your world! 😊😊😊
Thanks for sharing this story with us. In my opinion, the native Americans were truly abused and taken advantage of.
I agree LillyPad. Sad times.
Had had not heard his name as other than Walking Bear. True stories of what happened to Native Americans breaks my heart.
True tribes warred against each other. What was worse was the political and military attitudes of those in power. What can we get from them? What do we promise them with our fingers crossed behind our backs?
In the areas that his tribe lived in were also many French Canadian trappers. They too were finally attacked by the US for not wanting to become Americans. Many refused, like my ancestors who called Quebec home. They too fled across the Mississippi to the west side. A lot of my grandfathers and uncles had native wives.
It's so sad that Chief Joc O Sot was not sent back to his people, and disrespectful that his body was stolen.
It is good to hear more about his life in your respectful and accurate way of informing us of past history.
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Eerie Street Cemetary. You would not have a difficult task to convince people that Cleveland is cursed.
Incredible story. I have to wonder if anyone's tried to free his spirit from the cemetery? I also think The Cheif's story would make for a great movie.
There is another Chief buried there named Chief Thunderwater. It I said that he spent much of his time trying to free Joc-O-Sots spirit.
Again-really enjoying your channel. Its a always informative and strangely- relaxing to watch. Your son is doing a terrific job with the cinematography.
Thanks again Lee! I’m okay if you want to turn on the channel and chill or even nap! 😊
I was friends for years with a member of the Mesquakie nation. Because I read tarot cards and taught classes on psychic skills, he bestowed the name of Sees Far Woman to me. I was honored that he came to me for readings and he taught me Native American culture. This was a very interesting and maddening story
The chief was denied his rightful burial and dignity. It's so typical of the attitudes of so many people of those times. Thanks for this history lesson. You always do such a wonderful job.
Such an awesome story Jan! Thank you for sharing this! 😊😊😊
@@CuriousHistoryYT you're very welcome. Love your channel and your topics
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Thanks for the history story 👍
Thank you for watching Gary! 😊😊😊
That's right: The Cleveland Indians are no more, like the Washington Redskins. Today's clubs have abandoned all claim to any and all historical accomplahments.
The a short list for The Indians.
@@chrispartin4549 Then Cleveland had nothing much to lose. And likewise, nothing much has been added. Like the saying goes, you can't polish a Cleveland.
Ppl still call Washington, the redskins and Cleveland, the Indians despite the name changes lol
Another great video as always my friend love the history. Btw name change didn't help this year 😆
Thank you my friend!
Central Division Champs not so bad for such a young team but you’re right. No World Series again.
@@CuriousHistoryYT Damn Yankees 😆
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A very sad story presented with respect to those involved 😢.
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I enjoyed this video John. May he forever rest in peace.
Thank you James! 😊😊😊
@@CuriousHistoryYT You're welcome John.
Loved this video. Thank you
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Hello! Excellent history lesson. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching Joy! 😊😊😊
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A history channel that covers Ohio based locations? Oh hell yeah
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Thanks for another informative and entertaining video. Fantastic content, as always.
Thank you Rob! I appreciate your support as always! 😊😊😊
Hi John. What another amazing story. It is most unfortunate that this man went thru all he did, and just wanted to be buried on his Native Land, only to be "Resurrected" by the body snatchers. The Tuberculosis he had must have been frightful in it's own right, as it sounds like it took him quicker than most people. I hope that he finds rest and peace someday soon. As always thank you for such wonderful stories that we've never heard about before, and you and your family take care, and I'll definitely be watching for your next video. God bless you all, and stay safe in your travels.
Bless you my friend! I hope you have a fantastic week! 😊😊😊
You never disappoint! Another Awesome video of Ohio’s amazing history. Thank You my Friend.
Thank you Jerry! Hope all is well with you my friend! 😊😊😊
How sad.
Yep
Great videos. Here we go again. In new Smyrna beach Florida 😮
Stay safe David!
We made it. 6.81 inches of rain. Had wind gusts 67 mph about 3 am this morning
Yeah I was thinking about you David! Glad you’re okay! You guys have exceeded your quota for the year. Time for some rest!
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REST IN HEAVAN JOC O SOT ASE ASE ASE I LOVE YOU BE AT PEACE ANCESTOR
Good evening, don't know why they didn't respect his wishes. He was away from his people for a very long time. They could've erected a monument in the city. My great, great grandmother was Choctaw, my mother said she was a strong woman. Always love the history lesson. Have a blessed night. Linda 😆 😆 👋
Thank you Linda! Hope you have a fantastic Monday! 😊😊😊
Thank you
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The music in this was beautiful ♥
It was actually the hardest part of making this video! 🤣🤣🤣
@@CuriousHistoryYT Dude, I totally understand. I'm SO in the thick of it right now! 😅😭
Yeah! That’s awesome!!!!
You would think that there would be a movement that would move his body to a cemetery within his native lands.
What a beautifully filmed and sensitive account. Is the history of the native peoples and their treatment taught in schools? Here in UK I learned about what happened with the Empire, the terrible treatment in the name of 'progress'. Thankyou for another interesting and moving video, best regards.
Thank you Dawn!
I’m not sure about today but waaayyy back when I was in school there wasn’t much taught from a Native American perspective.
Hope you have a wonderful Monday!
Was the claim that the natives who signed the original treaty were drunk ever substantiated?
Black Hawk is on record saying that. And truthfully I wouldn’t put it past the government officials to get native elders intoxicated to get a signature.
Thank you for this story! You told it beautifully with respect! Patricia Gambino Harrington
Thank you Patricia! 😊😊😊
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The curse has worked completely, now no more baseball team in cleveland! Replaced by a roller derby team! Very sad
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If those not familiar with “The Guardians” name only knew!
we have a Cleveland here in new Zealand, probably more than one but theyre small farming settlements
Hopefully no curse there!
@@CuriousHistoryYT ya never know , cow ghosts
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Liked that story! 😀
Loved this comment! ❤️
Did the research come easy? Pre research? Or you know most of some of these amazing tidbits of information? If you have to study and memorize... It really is the feeling that voice of your sound exactly like the expert. I love you guys. Even envy. Not rage. But a bit jealousy 😂
Thanks Cody!
I wouldn’t say the research is easy but in this case there was plenty of info out there for me to gather.
Thanks for the support! 😊😊😊
I undid my curse living near Ohio by studying curses. Started with pazuzu and moved to north east chico California. Feels good but the curse can come back
Are you sure he didn't curse the Cleveland Browns Football team as well???
Must of carried over to the Browns also,lol.
Must have!
Who are the photographs of at the beginning? Photography was in its infancy when Joc O Sot died in the 1840s, so done of those people can be him.
They were of his ancestors in the Mesquakie Nation
I'm in Mansfield, have you folks ever made it down here? Your daughter has lovely hair, does have your family have Celtic ancestors by any chance? My family comes from KY, and CT, my grandparents bought a farm in Shelby, OH a few years after arriving from KY. Mainly my ancestry is Scottish is why I ask.
Yep we have Celtic for sure Shannon.
We were going to do the reformatory but they don’t let you film there so no luck. We do plan on getting to Mansfield sometime though.
No wonder he cursed Cleveland I'd be angry too.
Yep!
Damn I’d like to go one time with you. I live near here.
It’s an amazing place for sure!
Oh so this explains everything
Hi. I was born in Ohio
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ruclips.net/video/cyVrI2H2HCg/видео.html similar things happened here around that same time, but i think the native maori people fought better than the american indian respectively, but inevitably both native people had to yield ,it was share numbers that forced the Maori people to submit and sign the treaty of waitangi, but still when WW1 broke out the Maori organized their own regiments and fought along side the rest in the war and were very good apparently
Awesome info! Thanks for sharing this!
i gotta a curse? i dont know lol
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Hey.!!!curious.history.that is.very sad.!story.about,indians.curious.history.!!!love.in.friendship.Jean.Yvette.spates,
Thank you Jean! 😊😊
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I'm a lifelong Cleveland resident born and raised(west 117th and Lorain) and the whole "he cursed our sports teams" is bullshit......we just choke a lot in big games. If it is true he has put a lifelong curse on the Indians(I will never call them the stupid Guardians) then why did we win the world series in 1920 and 1948? Maybe the Chief was busy cursing something else and forgot to make us lose those series lol.
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I was there the day this was filmed, I sleep on Carnegie
Thank you
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