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forced stretching is not the way, pass it on.
Why do you keeping saying they are not trying to hurt these kids? They are hurting these kids for their own greed. These kids are exploited. I promise they are not choosing this, someone else signed them up. Quit bypassing in this video and stop saying that people are not meaning to hurt kids. Not only is this physical abuse, but it is emotional torment. Many of these girls struggle with body issues and eating disorders too! Stop it!
I’m sorry but my daughter does this and she cries tonnes and goes through pain but has the most amazing loving bond and gets cuddles and kisses after each one and asks for extra training at home and also loves her coach so disagree with you
@@miguelmatos6950 sick.
@@miguelmatos6950no. There's better ways to bond. And no amount of hugs and kisses and sucking up can change that there is better ways yet you still choose the harmful route.
@@jessicagarcia1856 I'm willing to help you understand, (bc I believe understanding & knowledge is how we help solve and correct problems) if you actually want to understand. But if you are just angry & needed to lash out then I understand that and won't bother with an explaination you don't actually want. But I do genuinely believe that it can't change unless we understand the dynamics.
I don’t know how people can do this to children even when the kids are screaming and crying in pain. It shouldn’t happen EVER!
I swear it happens because it was done to the teachers. It’s sadistic. It also reminds me of my friend who’s from India. She left the country because her mother in law was vicious to her and she didn’t want that to happen to her daughters. She’s like mother in law was abused by her mother in law so she gets to abuse her daughter in law. They perpetuate abuse as some form of payback or justice. I was proud of my friend for ditching such horrible practices.
I agree 100 percent.
Same. I know Josephine was trying to be polite but I feel like this goes beyond not understanding the science. I was taught as a child to stretch *my own body* until the point of pain and we know now that was also wrong, but I can’t imagine how much these kids are suffering physically and psychologically having this done *to them* and I can’t imagine what could drive an adult to think this is a good thing to do to a child - even if it worked!
Exactly! A sport is not worth that much pain.
I agree like you should just practice everyday but don’t force yourself to get the flexibility in one day
This should obviously be considered abuse. The implications this has on young girls bodily autonomy is absolutely devastating - I’m left in tears.
This is actually child abuse. Under the legal definition, this is child abuse. If you were to see this happening, you should report it.
@@Laura-mi3nv ofc, everyone knows that (not tryna be rude)
Don't cry
@@pretty_grl9645 - have you ever jumped on a wet trampoline? Its so much more intense!!!!! You get so much air. I managed to bite my tongue so bad once (somehow), I nearly bit through the whole thing! My southern drama mama was about to have a heart attack! Its been 40 years and I finally can't feel that scar.
@@elilajin2112 - I was a child abuse investigator and not everyone knows this. These things become normal to people and you really need to spell it out to people. People are also scared to report child abuse. Its an agenda that really needs to be pushed and said over and over. Plenty of people don't know what constitutes child abuse. I have seen some things. The original commenter even said this *should* be considered child abuse. Always encourage people to be brave enough to report this kind of stuff. You wouldn't believe what gets missed. You're probably smart, educated, and know better. Plenty of people don't.
In 2015 our teacher pushed down very forcefully on my friend in her straddle stretch. He broke her rib. She never told staff that's how it happened because she was scared of retribution. He would also yank girls ponytails to make them back bend deeper. He should never have been allowed to teach.
As a male assistant teacher that man is NOT a teacher he is a Maniac. I promise you many of us male dancers aren't like this we have understanding of what is and isn't ok I hope he gets prison time for that cuz that's real abuse
@@LittleGlockLittledude, just cuse it was a dude ain’t mean you gotta use your self and other men as a “right” example. When females do things like that to boys, no where will you find a female writing a paragraph like you did on how other female dancers don’t -Everything you wrote
Same thing happened to me, I ripped a muscle in my inner thigh portion of my hipflexors from a teacher pressing me down in a straddle too hard.
i promise you he didnt mean it in any way to offend anyone. all he was stating is that not all men are abusive. which a lot of people actually believe all men are evil. therefore his reason to explain. theres no reason for your comment.@@Wwasgud
@weird0_ a "lot of people" don't believe all men are evil. This forced stretching is done by women instructors too. At the same time, I wouldn't want my young daughter to be stretched at all by anyone, but especially by a man. It is best for women to do the physical corrections necessary when teaching young girls. People can argue all they want, but I would not want a grown man putting his hands on my daughter, touching her legs, pulling up on her thighs, etc. Nope. Not even of it is "gentle" stretching or correcting form. I've seen too much in my life.
When I was 17 (I’m MUCH older now) I had an artistic director who grew up in this type of environment. She told us about being trained like this and literally cried while talking about it. This woman clearly had some level of PTSD because of her “training” as a young child.
I'm 44 and I was "trained" this way. 😢
I remember being stretched in ballet class when I was 5 or 6 years old, but not so badly. I gave up ballet but still ended up having two operations on my hip in my twenties. I'm nearly 70 now and still suffer hip and back pain. This barbaric practice should have been stopped years ago. 😢
It's disgusting that they are ruining the kids bodies and the kids clearly don't consent.
@@teijaflink2226The parents are consenting by allowing it to happen and is heartbreaking. I couldn't even watch past the first bit of video. I wanted to hear what she has to say about it, but I could hear the children so I couldn't even watch long enough to learn where this is happening. Poor little sweethearts must dread going to class.
This is child abuse and they now it. This is commonly done in Russian rhythmic gymnastic schools where it’s seen as a way to increase discipline. Sadly this won’t stop unless the sports culture changes
Or until laws are enacted/updated. Because the current laws regarding child abuse are too archaic and limited. Laws take forever to change, but they take longer if people don't speak up. We have the science to back a new law. We need lawmakers to listen.
I don't know if you were actually referring to the videos Josephine showed but based on the crests on the shirts the coaches/teachers are wearing I believe the videos are actually Russian in fact
as an almost 50 year old who went through this as a child - I can say I definitely have permanent issues stemming from it (particularly hips, shoulders, and knees)
I don’t understand how people can do this to anyone when they are literally screaming and crying 😭 this breaks my heart and is so sad. I’m a dance teacher and if ever had a student start crying when I was helping them stretch I couldn’t keep pushing them. Goodness…. I was squirming in my seat watching these with you 😭
I haven't watched - I don't need to see it - but thanks for highlighting how damaging forced stretching is. It shouldn't happen, ever. Joints need good integrity to stand up to a career in dance - and just to live a healthy life in general. Forced stretching destroys that integrity creating unstable joints, and unstable joints increase the risk of osteoarthitis, subluxations and dislocations, tissue tears and other painful joint problems that are not always resolvable. Not to mention that this kind of physical assault by an adult on a minor - because, let's be honest, that's what it is - causes emotional trauma. Many of these students will be left with PTSD.
I agree.
An adult forcibly holding a child down and instilling pain sets that child up for severe abuse let alone the severe conscious and subconscious trauma.
Cannot imagine having a healthy love life as an adult after being in that physical position while pain is forced upon oneself.
Couldn’t watch the video. I wanted to vomit.
This should be against the law.
Honestly, I have a hard time believing that anyone who really "means well" would do this to kids to the point where they start screaming in pain. At this point they're not interested in the kids' well-being or dream fulfillment anymore, but in fulfilling their own ambition through these poor kids at any cost
My art mentor, who emotionally abused me, was the same way. She trained me in awful ways, just to be able to say "I taught them that" once I reached the desired level. She did teach me alot but it wasn't worth the mental turmoil and now I have almost stopped making art at all since I'm struggling with heavy art block. She erased the fun in art for me
🤬 I stopped watching on the 2nd child. I used to coach gymnastics and besides the crazy parents, this was one of the reasons I stopped. Some of the parents would encourage this. Just NO. Adults, do what you want to your body but kids? This is child abuse. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾It’s disgusting.
Thank you Josephine for talking about the better options for healthier training and caring for the body.
I’m so thankful my dance teachers never did this. We would do some stretches and they would tell us “you’ll get there, keep working at it” and never ever pushed us in any way like this.
I started ballet in 1965. In Texas. This was never done to me. In fact, like your teachers, mine would say the same. Keep working, you’ll get there.
My ballet teacher never did this to anyone in our classes and I'm so grateful.
I watch this and... who am I kidding? I can't watch this. I'm a pediatrician with a background in Athletic Training and a Masters in Infant and Early Childhood Mental Health. It's hard for me to understand how it could possibly even make sense that turn out comes from stretching, not from building strength. I struggle to understand how these teachers don't feel sick to their stomachs, knowing that they are harming their relationships with these children.
I was once talking to an older physician about the days when doctors claimed that newborns "didn't feel pain." She told me that there was this weird cognitive dissonance about it. The doctors who were training you -- who you literally had to rely upon to teach you how to keep patients alive -- told you in a completely matter of fact manner that infants can't feel pain. These were people who knew more than you about pretty much everything, and who you had the upmost respect for. In your heart or your gut or wherever you want to place it, you knew that infants felt pain. But if the people training you said that infants don't feel pain, you believed them that infants don't feel pain and didn't question it.
These are the same doctors that will tell women they have no nerve endings in the cervix and perform LEEP procedures, colposcopies, and IUD insertions/removals with no pain control.
My mother was told by our family doctor that children don't get headaches... All part of the same attitude.
Yep I was a trained gymnast and ballet until I graduated out and was offered a scholarship but had those experiences and I became a trauma nurse specialist. Little did I know that I was craving more endorphins because of having PSA severely with not one physician to listen to my symptoms and I diagnosed myself even though my records showed from 1973 rheumatological symptomology. Staying active helped but I have the worse form of it and it began in my early childhood- a little psoriasis and screaming painful leg pains, fevers of unknown origin and eye floaters until one day while teaching organic chem I felt like something crawled up my spine and the next symptom,crippling migraines no energy. I have to say that what I went through medically was far worse and still is and it shames me also because I helped push doctors through their boards while just working the floor, crazy. My body is literally a textbook for PSA and I just fired my rheumatologist for not knowing what he should know. I always loved my pediatric patients and all of them. Hang in there too!😊
I literally couldn't watch the stretching, I just scrolled down and listened! So true, Josephine!
Same here , it was difficult to see
Same
I did the exact same
This was done to me here in the UK. There is nothing you can do against a 289-pound person pushing you into the wall for splits or any stretching exercise. I did gymnastics, and my hips dislocate all the time, i can still do the splits all 3 ways, and im 54. Sometimes, I would love to beat the coaches like they hurt us. Xx
im sorry that happened to you
I’m so sorry you went through that. This is just absolutely awful that anyone should. The number of things we never knew happened to kids behind the closed doors of sports training in the 70s, 80s and 90s is sickening.
Do parents know that this is happening to their children??? Shame on them if they do and let it happen. Do they think that their child will be a "star" dancer and become famous? So sad for the children.
@@joycejohnson7640 Yes, they know. And they pay for them to go, too.
@joycejohnson7640 My mother became a coach, and I still have bad feelings towards her. But at the time, we thought it was normal.
The woman in the black pants with "Racing" on them, I recognise from at least two other similar videos. In those she was very cheerily engaging with the camera, smiling & laughing while the kids screamed in pain. Whether she knows any other stretching methods or not, she is doing that because she enjoys it.
Those channels get millions of views, I think, because of a very particular audience… and I think they have to know what they are doing. I reported a channel a few weeks ago and I think it was the one with this woman. The captions on the videos were so bizarre. Like “good little girls know that pain equals gain”, or something like that🤢
thats horrific! oh my gosh i never even thought about this perspective and feel sickened.@@christinepoppy3277
She’s also doing it because that’s how she was taught and this is how they train in Russia for decades. It’s sadly very common for Russian schools in rhythmic gymnastics.
I wouldn't call that enjoyment, it's just how this kind of stretching has always been done and they believe this is the right way, like how people dunk their infants for baptism.
A lot of people are raised to believe "no pain no gain". It's literally a proverb.
To give the benefit of doubt, if you are on camera, you can't really do anything else but smile. They can't be looking angry, can they
@@chloemakesvideos3889No, no, most people who believe the 'no pain, no gain' proverb aren't this disgustingly heartless. Most people are upset when they hear kids crying. Most people don't have a practice of making kids cry and *promoting* it. Most people have empathy. This despicable specimen smiles while the kids are in excruciating pain. As for the camera's role in all this, quadruple 'no'. Lots of people frown on camera. You cannot honestly tell me that this monster isn't completely disconnected from the rest of humanity. She needs to be arrested.
Child abuse, this shouldn't be happeningm physical and mental abuse. How can parents allow this to happen As a teacher you should be continually learning methods that do not injure, create trauma and are completely outdated
I teach a beginning stretch class for 9-10 yr old ballet students and focus on teaching them how their joints, muscles and ligaments work, what is healthy for their bodies and that we are all different and everyone has the right to choose what happens with their body.
I had a 9 year old ask me if I would push her down in her splits, which she must have learned from someone. Of course I refused and emphasized the message that we don't do that. These little girls put so much pressure on themselves to meet what they see as desirable goals. Perfect turn out,splits etc. It's up to their teachers and coaches to promote healthy self image and non competitive stretching.
How could you literally pin a child down, who’s crying and screaming, and go home and lay your head on your pillow…. My heart hurts for this kids
This made me tear up. No one should be forced to endure such pain. 😢
There are better ways. I’m 45 and the most flexible I’ve been in my life. I’ve been educating myself and learning how to strengthen my body while recovering from a broken leg from a fall last year.
If I can do it at my age through more gentle means, they’ll surely work better on younger, more limber bodies.
Thank you for having such an empathetic and educational approach to this rather than just reacting with anger (which was my first impulse). If these teachers had more education about better, safer ways to help students turn out safely without doing long-term damage they would (hopefully) make better choices for their students
This form of torture should be outlawed and the perpetrators of this abuse should be jailed.
As someone from the figure skating world, it’s so sad to see this and also know that this type of uninformed teaching and abuse happens in that sport too.
I disagree with them not knowing they are adults and definitely know better, the info is in their face and if they choose to be ignorant they are committing child abuse, and I'll say it how it is, cause if this was my child not only will that teacher be on the floor with broken arms they be in jail
Yeah for real. Where are the parents?? Someone is recording this. Thus makes me never want to drop my kids off at any class 😢
No I agree with you. I’m not understanding how they didn’t know it wasn’t good for them when u can clearly see it’s painful.
Pushing yourself to the limit is a choice that should be made by the dancer when he/she is older. Youngsters should be shown how to help their bodies along.
My ballet mistress, at every class would drill into us to not even take Tylenol before class because it might mask pain.
This is shocking. Im so glad my mom didnt put me in those classes when I was young. I'm 53 and just found out this year that I have a congenital spine condition called Bertolotti syndrome. I had back pain since i was 10 years old, and it went undiagnosed by every doctor my mom took me to see. They said I was trying to get out of going to school! Or that I just didn't like PE class. At 27 a disc in my lower back totally ruptured and I have nerve damage in my leg from it. I still didn't get diagnosed with Bertolotti even though that's what caused it. I recently had an MRI for a different issue and the doctor saw that I have an extra vertabrate and it's unfused. That is Bertolotti! I finally had an explanation for so many decades of suffering.
Imagine if my mom had put me in those classes where they stretch the poor kids! I would have been permanently disabled by it. When kids say they have pain, please please dont tell them to push through it like I was told. I suffered so much from that mentality.
In the 60’s we were stretched too, I’m thankful, it wasn’t traumatic to me. When we first started having our feet and ankles stretched it was a bit difficult at most. Bless these poor mistreated babies.
OMG finally someone talked about this in Russia. They were always talking about the abuse in China and Japan, this abuse in Russia is so much worser. Thank you
Could you make a video where you explain these other methods in more detail? I think that would be an important addition to this video, besides saying that there's other methods 😊
Watch Align Fitness by Allie, a PT with proper methods to train for dance: www.youtube.com/@AlignFitnessByAllie
These are child abuse videos that certain people choose to post deliberately to appeal to the predatory prurient interests. That is why these are filmed and posted, that is who is giving these views, likes and contributions.
Yes, exactly! I reported some of these videos a few weeks ago. They have the most bizarre captions and thumbnails and millions of views. The people posting them definitely know what they are doing. I wish youtube would take them all down, but I think only some have been restricted, not even removed, of the ones I reported
That is absolutely horrific! It is child abuse! I am trying to think of what to write without raging and using vile expletives, but it is near impossible! As a parent, you protect and defend your child from abuse, harm, and trauma until your last breath. To intentionally subject your child to what amounts to torture - vile and disgusting! It must be stopped!
If I found out this was happening to my child, I would take them out of the class permanently, its unnecessary & in my eyes its assault & abuse.
Regardless of education, actively making a child cry in pain is abuse and we shouldn’t pretend that it isn’t. The solution is still eduction, but two types of education, what is abuse and what is best for the body.
I’m a dancer and have been for 9+ years. Genetically, my hip sockets don’t open all the way. I’m lucky that I grew up in a studio that practiced safe stretching. It’s terrible to think of all the joint problems these children are going to have and the pain they have to go through currently. 💔
No, those teachers know what they are doing. There is too many things to research and relearn so they DON'T do this. Saying they don't know better..just no. Also, when they see a child crying and writhing in pain? STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THAT CHILD. They are crying for a reason! I'm sorry for yelling. It's just that how they are "teaching" is horrible and the "old ways" are barbaric. This is just my own opinion. I am so sorry that you, Josephine, went through is as well. 💔
I hope what I said here doesn't offend anyone...
And btw, I am editing to say that I am perfectly aware that what is happening is child abuse and that I'm not questioning what it is.
It's child abuse and we all need to recognize it as such and say something. See the other comments from people in the field who confirmed it, in case you were questioning yourself.
@@addiekl I know it's child abuse.
"You are a human being first".
This.right.here.
When I was in gymnastics we would get put up against the wall in box splits and pushed against it with a bench against all our backs. Plus more. I'm now 43 and in pain everyday. All my joints hurt and I have arthritis in most of my joints too. Doctor said it could be because of all the forced stretching in gym.
This brings back memories to when I was like 5 years old being forced into doing things like this. This exact stretching and other things like being forced into the splits. This should seriously be illegal because this is abuse.
Who are these "trainers" and how can we go about reporting them for child abuse?
Thank you Josephine for offering support for other dancers having gone through this process
I'm having a hard time seeing these teachers as caring for these kids. I was abused in this way, we all cried. If you can do this to a child crying in pain, there's something wrong with you.
Uneducated or no, full grown adults should think critically and realize that this is straight up abuse.
This is how I was taught. I still remember going down to splits and the teacher sitting or laying down on our backs.
😢 I am so sorry for what you went through.
Yep....yeah unfortunately even in America the overstretch method is a problem when I was growing up. Our teacher stopped if we started to cry but she would say push through the pain. I wasn't naturally flexible so I remember keeping my mouth shut when it hurt so much because I wanted so badly to be flexible like my other friends not realizing that our bodies are just different and that's okay. Gosh I hope my kid won't experience this. Hopefully the new research will be the philosophy used unlike in the 90s.
As a parent if I heard by children howling in pain….. police would be called
It would be great to have some references to the newer literature on all this!
Watch Align Fitness by Allie, a PT with proper methods to train for dance: www.youtube.com/@AlignFitnessByAllie
This is child abuse. It is unacceptable and those who do things like this to children should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I read an article about safeguarding changes at British Gymnastics after their scandals about athlete abuse and mistreatment and one of the specific things they have now mandated is to prohibit forced stretching. hopefully it gets enforced
This kind of “stretching” is child abuse plain and simple. The children are screaming in pain and are far too young to be “pushing themselves”. This is an authority figure pushing their agenda on a precious child’s growing body. This causes unrepairable physical and emotional trauma. Even if these children do have professional dance careers, the risk of chronic pain is far too great. I treat far too many preteen children with chronic pain to not be extremely concerned about this. 😢 Thank you, Josephine, for bringing attention to this extremely important problem. 🙏🏻
I have “loosygoosy” joints, per all my medical cohort, tho not EDS (the husband is that zebra). Mine is likely related to my chronic pain (CRPS) and autoimmune disease, and one therapy is having my fascia scraped frequently, to help my everything relax from either locking so hard to hold joints steady or being beyond floppy. (It’s so fun!) My husband does the fascial release on my IT bands, and tears are pretty common… and he can barely get through that. And I’m a grown-ass woman. I cannot even imagine what must be wrong with someone that they can make children scream in pain like this, knowingly injuring them for life.
I m really really shocked! For me it feels like sexual abuse and it make me cry. My friend had a hip luxation and operation because of that 😔
As a someone who doesn't do ballet this hurts the core of my soul 😩
Why would you need research to show you this is wrong? The children are crying and trying to push the teacher's hands away! If you did something like that in a school classroom situation you'd probably be fired!
I had something similar to this happen when i was in gymnastics. I wasn't flexible enough in middle splits, so coach came over and just pushed down on my back. Something in my knee, ugh, it was gross, i felt something ripping inside. I was on the ice, anti-inflammatory drugs, wraps, crutches, for weeks. It eventually healed, sort of, but that knee has never been the same. To this day if i start to push a stretch a bit too far on the left, i feel that spot in my knee get that stabbing pain. Just, don't do this to kids. There are better ways to gain flexibility that don't come with the risk of lifelong injury.
Things like this were done to us as well, as competitive gymnasts, and it breaks my heart to see that it's still happening.
I was trained like this in rhythmic gymnastics by my Russian coach. The worst to me was that we had to sit on each other's back leg while they were in a split with the front heel on a chair (around 1:22 what the girl in the back is doing with a bench, but with a chair and someone sitting on the back leg, hope it makes sense). I never sat too much because my friend would be CRYING !! Then I'd get yelled at for not sitting on her properly.
At 14, I twisted my ankle while training and had a severe sprain. My coach yelled at me to get back to training and stop being a baby. She refused to call my parents. I refused to train. I sat on a bench and waited until pick up time. My friends carried me to my parents car. I never went back to training.
I think I accepted this abusive situation because I was a kid and my parents were also abusive in many ways (they refused to get me medical attention for my sprain until they realized I couldn't go to school on all fours). But I said no that day and never looked back. I'm much older now and my mom has apologized for not getting me medical care back then.
I also suffered a neck injury and my training worsened the consequences of it. I'll have to live with it for my entire life.
I always tell parents that it's fine to let your child dance or do gymnastics, but be sure what they are up to in training !
I so wanted to do ballet as a child in the 60s, but seeing this, I'm just as glad i didn't.
This is NOT ballet.
@@simbahunter8894Not ballet but similar techniques were (and sometimes still are) used by ballet instructors who haven't been given mind-body training courses.
Americans are very reluctant to manhandle other people's children, for good reason. I don't believe this occurs in American ballet schools at all.
I couldn't even make it through the video. I can't believe anyone would do this to children. I'm crying so hard right now.
I’m not even squeamish and I couldn’t watch this. I hope this practice discontinues soon. Dance shouldn’t be torture!
This was very eye-opening and painful to see. I am glad this is changing for dancers in a healthier way because, God, those poor babies... Actions like this will make someone afraid to do what they once loved. Thank you for the information!
Dancers don't do this. This is gymnastics.
Um, did you not hear Josephine, @@simbahunter8894? She had it done to her in Korea. There's other forced stretching techniques which pull your arms up while in a straddle against a wall and someone else pushes at your hips.
while yes this is rhythmic gymnastics, some dance companies do this from personal experience. @@simbahunter8894
I’m so sorry, I couldn’t watch this. I’m in tears over this. What a barbaric way of going on. Thank you for bringing this to us. ❤
It concerns me that this child abuse has been known to go on in the USA. It is ILLEGAL! If any adult ever sees this, STOP IT!!! Immediately! Do whatever you have to do to stop that child from this harm. The cops can be called afterward. This is barbaric!
I couldn’t watch this! I’m so thankful you are using your platform to educate about the dangers & alternatives to this.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I am a gymnast and I was stretched like that I would cry and they would say you won’t regret this in the future but I was pretty sure there was a different way that would end in the same result I was really young when I experienced it
This is how I was stretched when I was a kid in gymnastics, but not to the point of tears. These children are sobbing in pain! This is difficult to watch these poor babies suffer like this.
Omg!😱😱 How is this not child abuse? This was hard to watch. I couldn't take it. As a mother I can even begin to explain how much it would hurt me to see this done to any of my children. I just couldn't. I would pull my child(ren) out of that class if i saw that. 😱😭
This is NOT ballet. This is rhythymic gymnastics as taught in Russia. NO ballet school in the US does this. NO ballet school in Russia does this. They don't even train children this young.
True 👍🏻
My hips will never be the same ! my hips used to pop outta socket when I hit a certain age an still can't walk correctly!! Please don't do this. More pain than necessary...
Thanks for bringing awareness...your a beautiful person!!
@Josephine Thank you for looking out for all these baby ballerinas. You're right, we all should stop to question ourselves whether the traditions we've learned and have been following are actually safe and correct practice. Wishing you the best of this year...🎉❤❤❤
oh my god this is abuse. i’m literally crying watching this bc this is so nauseating and so so so not okay
Knowledge is key. Thank you for making this video and as painful and horrendous it was to view, in my tears, I know that we can protect our future athletes from these wrongful practices.
Please spread this knowledge and expose what has been done wrongly so this does not happen anymore!
This was done to me in the UK in the 80s and now I’m in my early 40s and my Doctors is horrified - but I got a snazzy cane to walk with!
I'd love an educational video explaining all the better ways to achieve turnout and flexibility!
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That is child abuse....this has got to stop. NOTHING is worth this!
This is one of the reasons why I cannot remember my ballet lessons.
My daughter was in a dance class when she was young. Until the teacher told me I need to force her legs into the splits. I never took her back.
I’ve watched this channel where they are doing the stretching. It’s a rhythmic gymnastics class in another country and in pretty much all rhythmic gymnastics classes, in other countries this is how they stretch the kids and they start it from day 1. The 1st child, the blond girl, in the video is the daughter of the lady that is stretching her. This is a very early video of her daughter’s training
Josephine this must of been so hard for you to watch and react to. I can just tell how emotional you were watching this. I have PTSD myself, medical PTSD. This is child abuse and you should never of had to go through it. I would like to thank for raising awareness of forced stretching xx
This is child abuse regardless of the intention. Thank you for bringing this archaic practice to light and the alternatives!
My son was a ballet dancer amd even at 13 he could point out to the girls how to use their muscles and positioning to get more correct form..his girls loved him because he had an understanding of the body that was beyond the norm
I took ballet for about 2yrs as a kid, and this type of stretching was never done to us.
How are they even getting away with that? It's child abuse.
Thanks for bringing awareness to this issue❣️
I feel like this is worsened by the 'champion factories' that happen a lot of times in China and Russia, and god, I can't imagine the pain! This is abuse.
Oh my gosh I started crying when I watched this. I can't even begin to explain how upsetting this was, this is abuse, straight up. I hope that parents were just unaware of this, and with videos circulating over the internet the parents will see them and pull their kids. If that was my kid she would be out the next day and I would do my best to try and sue them, or at least give them enough legal repercussions not to do it to other kids.
I can't believe this is an industry practice (a bad one, but still). Willing inflicting so much pain on a child that they are screaming, and holding them down while they protest. And reading through a lot of comments, it ends up giving people so many issues later down the line....
I am praying for these kids and their families. 💛
Thamk you for educating everyone on these horrible practices!!
No way would I allow anyone to do that to my kid. Standing by while your kid cries in absolute pain....oh heck no.
this gave me chills
I live in Hungary and when I was around 5 years old, I did ballet for around 6 weeks. At the last lesson I went to, they did this to us, but with the middle splits. They forced us down and I have a vivid memory of kids crying and screaming around me. I was lucky because I already knew how to do the splits. Now I'm a figure skater and will need to do ballet.
I hope they stop doing this.
i am now way older but when i was 6 my ballet school teachers and gymnastics teachers would sit on my hips or like legs bc my straddle "wasnt as straight as a line" my ballet teacher would also hold my hip back and push on my knee (in passe) so that i'll have better turn out. i didnt cry bc i was too scared too. i hope nobody has to go throw this type of pain ever ❤️
As a person that grew up with (still has) congenital hip dysplasia….. this hurts my soul.
A gentle stretch over time is much better for the over all results. Forced stretching causes micro-tears in the tissues of the hips which causes scar tissue that leads to Tighter ligaments and tendons.
i just cant imaging the pain, even after the stretch, the injurys and tears, jesus
Thankfully this isn’t something I experienced as a young dancer. It breaks my heart to see these sweet babies going through this. The worst I dealt with was arch-breakers and weekly weigh-ins, which were bad enough!!
It's very good you're giving this your attention. Thank you for that. I'm sorry though...I just couldn't watch it any longer after I saw two kids cry and scream from the pain.
Thank you for bring this into the light. Keep on exposing the ABUSE!
Wake up everyone, the queen has posted🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This is absolutely heartbreaking. I'm so sorry that you went through this yourself Josephine. No child should have to suffer this way for the art of dance, or for anything. This is trauma and abuse! How are parents okay with this being done to their children just so they can turn out quicker?! 😭😭
How horrible. I'm sorry you had to endure this.
Thanks for bringing attention and kindness to this issue.
I couldn't keep watching. This is so upsetting. Poor babies. 😭