I think it's just a Kumar flashback, it might show some things happening from his perspective, but I think when Garling plays a role in the story is when we get the proper backstory of what happened
Exactly!! We only heard xebec's side from WG's perspective. Also i find roger siding with the WG so intriguing. Why would roger side with the WG? Maybe xebec was actually a good guy. They said that the rocks pirates constantly fight with each other. The strawhats always fight too but not in a death match type of fight. Its more like a gag especially with zoro and sanji. And take note the former members of rocks pirates also have their dreams of a perfect world but they lost their way when rocks pirate fell. Take kaido and bigmom for example kaido knows about joyboy and at one point believed that he could be joyboy. And bigmom had this idea of a perfect world and they believe that they can only achieve this with projecting their strengths. Maybe this is the timeline where they failed to achieve their dreams thats why they turned bad just like what oda draw on the strawhat's timeline if something bad happens. But unlike bigmom and kaido, white beard didn't became bad because he achieved his dream to have a family.
This adds a completely new layer to that meeting with Whitebeard and Shanks. Can you imagine? These two legends meet and Whitebeard is talking about a scar he received from Shanks’s blood family and Shanks is talking about a scar he got from Whitebeard’s chosen family? What an interactions
Maybe God valley was a territory of the Rocks pirates It would make sense given we are told it's abundant in resources And it would fall in place well with what the person who told kaido about there being trouble at God Valley. Roger probably headed there because there must have been something special on God Valley that Rocks was in possession of, maybe a lode poneglyph and Garp must've been chasing Roger so then the three forces all met at God Valley and Garp seeing the celestial dragons there had to uphold his duty to protect them and sided with Roger to help him do it, since they both had a common enemy.
What if Rocks was following the will of D to kill celestial dragons? And was stopped by garp? But we don't know it yet whether Garp is enemy of rocks or not..
Also the chest that Shanks was in is way bigger than the six chests behind the master of ceremonies. There were probably lots of other treasure chests. Those six chests looked like the mini DF chests that Shanks had the Nika fruit in.
I feel like shanks was put in the chest for his own safety. The island was under attack and someone, most likely Garling, was with shanks and had to leave him behind to enter the battlefield.
I still think Xebec is Shanks’ father and Shanks’ mom is Garland’s sister. I believe the Gorosei didn’t like any celestial dragon especially one from the Figarland family dating someone from the D. clan, so they decided to hold her execution on God Valley and that’s when Xebec made his way there to get his son and wife, but ultimately failed.
@felixmejia5129 Luffy and Shanks are related their part celestial dragon think prince and the pauper but as Moses and you might find Shank's as his son if they garling is his grandfather and makes his family work for it Either death or not and so rocks could be the reason they all go to god valley because he wanted shanks back idk let's wait for Oda
@@simplicitysitrucYeah I'm going to need more context on that lol go on. There's a few reasons why I think Crocodile is related to Luffy and they're all based on what Oda has said in past interviews or what's written/drawn in SBS. I don't believe the woman theory
@@Sweet_Karma I honestly think croc is an okama that’s the secret …. There’s dudes petrified of him to find out he’s a she would have a lot of guys not fearing him ….. ( kuina to zoro females get weaker than men the older we get it’s natural)
I don't think for a second that Roger and Garp actually fought and took down rocks. When Oda introduced us to the God Valley incident, I think he said that to deceive us and throw us off his trails. I think Rocks, Garp, and Roger were fighting to protect the people of God Valley or something along those lines. Garling, or even possibly another holy knight, or one of the gorosei probably took out rocks, but to remain their level of being unknown throughout the world they shifted the credit to someone else. Kinda like what they did to Sabo with the Cobra situation.
God valley looked like free for all, maybe garp, roger and rocks met they all fought, garp and roger realised rocks was too strong so decided to jump? That makes more sense than some random holy knight taking him down
Dragon 17 same age as Luffy prets Kaido 21 Big Mom 30 (19sons and 11daughters mont dor was born 38yrs ago so he would be her latest child around this time)
Garp was 40 years old. Roger was 39 and Whitebeard was 36 .. Garp and Roger could be considered in their prime since they're approximately the same ages as characters who are in their prime rn, i.e. Shanks and Mihawk.. Whitebeard on the other wasn't in his prime 😐..
@@thefearlessshaheen2366 Like I said, One Piece characters are considered to be in their prime in their late thirties/early forties .. Garp and Roger, both 40 and 39 years old respectively, at God Valley.. Kaido and Oden, both 39 years old at the time of the latter's death.. Shanks and Mihawk, both 39 and 43 years old respectively in the current storyline.. With so many other top tiers' prime being considered in that age range, is it too much of a stretch to think that Whitebeard wasn't in his prime at that point in time?
Dragon definitely is the underrated character in all of this he was 17 same age as prets Luffy at this time. Rocks and Roger were a huge influence to what he's been doing since I feel
@@dariuswilliams7509 I’m think he was a young Marine following in Garps footsteps until that day. Which made him change his outlook towards the government and even Garp.
Yo Brago, the celestial dragons chose “God Vally” because they didn’t like the fact that there was “God” in the name. They said it was blasphemous. Sorry, he did say it in the video😅
exactly, even though Oda already stated that, these content creators always try to reach for more even after the man himself said it... love brago, but sometimes he's trying too much..
My theory is the celestial dragons were holding their tournament on god valley, while the rocks crew pulled up to go after the celestials and Roger pulled up because he thought there would be someone strong to fight. Once they arrive the tournament just turns into an all out brawl. Where the navy now intervenes, and now it’s the navy vs rocks pirates vs roger pirates. The only reason why Roger and Garp teamed up was because rocks was decimating everyone on both sides.
@@itzrohith6257 well, I remember that flashback and all that was said to Kaido was that there was trouble and they needed to go to god valley. The trouble part could’ve been that the rock pirates were gonna ransack god valley for their rich resources and the celestial dragons with the navy got there before they did or they were planning to go after the celestial dragons but Roger crew had gotten there first, possibly ruining their plans. My main theory was that they were tipped off and needed to go after the celestial dragons. For a bunch of celestial dragons to be in one place, that’s outside of Mary Geoise, is a rare opportunity. Even in the newest chapter it’s stated the last time of the tournament was held was 3 years prior. So I don’t think Xebec wanted to waste this opportunity.
For the story it makes a lot of sense for Garling to scar Whitebeard at God Valley, but the problem is, we know for a fact that Whitebeard had no scars on his chest after God Valley incident from Oden's flashback.
Saturn mentioned in the new chapter that he was surprised that the strawhats are so loyal to eachother. Since he doesn't leave the holy land much, the only real experience Saturn has had with powerful pirates was at god valley. I think maybe the reason the rocks pirates went over to god valley was because rocks had a personal connection to god valley, however since none of the other pirates in that crew really care about eachother, they could have turned on rocks without much hesitation. Now the other thing we KNOW about god valley was that garp and roger had to defend the celestial dragons (which is why I don't think it was a setup). What I believe happened was that the celestial dragons were threatened and so they offered up the prizes to the pirates for protection and that's how everyone got different chests with devil fruits and garling's son. I don't know how this could tie in to the Roger pirates and dragon (since this is probably where he meets kuma).
Garling actually betting his son makes sense. He is arrogant enough in his abilities and based on how they were raised you are right about it being very difficult to do anything of value and having stakes in an activity. Even playing normal games is meaningless unless they have something to lose. But what could any of them lose that is important and can't get back with ease? What could be priceless? A devil fruit? A family member? Something rare or even unique? And the same goes as to why they would bother playing such a game if they couldn't gain something. Sure they get revenge on the slaves they don't like but in order to be willing to compete in a game where the celestial dragons would have to do physical labor they should have a big prize waiting for them if they win. Yeah garling betting his son would be reasonable at this point.
I do not think Shanks is Garlin's son but a clone, and he is not the only one.The 'Shanks' that had the meeting with the Gorosei is the other Garling clone. Remember the God's Knights siluette looking a lot like Shanks ... there you go!
@@juliotencio5695 I thought only germa had ways to clone people. Don't get me wrong it wouldn't be a bad theory but why would the celestial dragons clone themselves if they have relationships and families already in mary geoise. They would end up overpopulating for no reason. But putting a clone in a chest as a prize is not something of value because the clone can be reproduced. Something like a devil fruit for example is unique in the world and even if someone eats it when they die the devil fruit will appear again but as a prize any devil fruit is unique in the world and a prize for any celestial dragons that wants something different from the others.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 at this point we have no idea how baby Shanks ends up inside that chest. I see your point on the clone situation maybe it is his son ... but I am sure there is another "Shanks" under the goverment control ... that meeting with the Gorosei makes no sense unless the Shanks we saw isnt the Shanks we know, Oda is a genious and he was smart to hide that "Shank's" left eye and it's scars.
@@juliotencio5695 shanks will be a mystery for a while imo. Even if garling bet him as a prize maybe he was an illegitimate son and he was trying to get rid of him since it seems the female celestial dragons were swooning over garling so maybe he was single by that time. Lots of theories and lots of ways it can go. Maybe garling protected shanks as long as he doesn't go directly against them or something else who knows. But now it is getting interesting since we will finally find out more about one of biggest mysteries in one piece. Maybe shanks has a twin and garling bet only one of them for fun who knows. But let's not theorize too much because we might end up being disappointed although oda is very good at surprising us positively at the most unexpected moments.
chronologically speaking garling didnt scar whitebeard in god valley, we know that because in the oden flashback whitebeard has no scars and the last time roger and whitebeard meet whitebeard has one scar(presumably from roger from what i can remember it was confirmed in an sbs by oda that roger did scar whitebeard) and wb at that point was still missing the weird L scar and the X scar which were likely caused by garling anywhere between rogers execution to the day he met with shanks
@@donovanjr284 its not a plothole though, it doesnt mean garling and wb didnt meet after god valley, hell they might have not even crossed swords in god valley
Oh yeah. Garps a bit too open about his opinions about celestial dragons. I'd say that he chose to continue to be a marine to serve and protect. It's the reason why he stayed a Vice admiral. He didn't want to be under the direct thumb of the celestial dragons, but wanted to have enough authority in the marines. Whatever happened in god valley, probably showed him how fucked up the world government really was, but I imagine rocks didn't set a very good standard for being a pirate.
With him being a D. the WG is already on his ass he acts stupid purposely. based on Roger leaving Ace with Garp I’m assuming he also left with him information on the one piece/void century and Garp took it upon himself to ensure everything was in place secretly by the time Ace/Luffy was old enough. Remember there’s still Sword with koby and others working secretly apart for the Wg
@@Someaddress555sexactly his hands are tied as a marine but his kids however… he could’ve easily kept Dragon/Luffy, Ace, Sabo with him and raised them as Marines but he let them find the truth for themselves I think that’s his way. I think he plays a big part in Sword as well
@@Beamken I was more getting at he knew if he left the WG then the Celestial Dragons might choose to wipe out Goa Kingdom where we Garp is from in their next hunt, and likely still has ties to peoplw there if not the royal family themselves. So instead Garp stayed an unwilling Vice Admiral, which gave some cover to his home island instead of making it a potential target.
I think xebec was a slave just like everyone else but he got his hands on the op dark fruit that black beard has now but I believe it’s also a mythical zoan which when Xebec ate instantly awakened maybe because Xebec was already thinking of very dark things from being a slave or just the soul and the fruit clicked
@KereTista-km9ck there are similarities, look up the young whitebeard and compare it to young kuma. also their chins both have those weird edges. i think its hidden from us because WB is so ripped. I think he was such a exeptional strong pirate because the tremble DF he ate was such a great fit to his already great strength :)
Hey brago just gotta say love the content man, keep up the great work king! A theory I had about god valley was that rocks may have been a little crazy mentally and somehow found out about the Nika fruit and thought he would be the coming joyboy. His flag has similar designs to luffys gear 5th form. Maybe I’m reading into it too much, but maybe kuma prayed nika would come and rocks and his crew showed up instead. Just an idea I wanted to share :)
Maybe Roger heard about God valley having so many resources and wanted to steal some treasure since this was the peak of piracy. Then he opens the chest&sees a random baby instead of devil fruits or gold
I think what happened was that both Xebec and Roger heard news about the event that happens every 3 years on God Valley taking place with the prizes involved that were deemed important to both pirate crews. Rogers crew wanted to free the slaves to feel liberated while Xebec wanted to free the slaves to feel anarchy, which foreshadows Luffy’s and Blackbeards relationship. I also think that Xebec was the user of the dark-dark devil fruit that BB has. Awakening the DF is the return of Xebec that the marines mentioned just like Luffy awakening G5 is the return of Joyboy. As far as the holy knights and Garp goes, they were escorting the celestial dragons around during the event until both pirate crews clashed but I think Xebec and his crew were that powerful that both the Roger Pirates and Marines/Holy Knights needed to team up against them.
Bro, I just had the craziest thought. What if Garp and Roger actually broke up the war between rocks and the God Knights on God Valley? You have a pirate with Roger that could get the rocks Pirates to chill out and you had Garp that could help the god Knights and together they put an end to it. But knowing the world government, after they chilled out, something sketchy happened and they killed rocks. It’s the people who win the wars that write the history and it has totally been written to show that rocks was this horrible person and he was destroyed on God valley but who knows, the reality is probably that he was stabbed in the back when he least expected it just because they hated him. I don’t know, I’m driving and I’m just brainstorming while listening to your video.
"They killed Rocks", enter Kong who we know little about but looks like an effing battle scarred tank and was above Garp and Sengoku at that time as an Admiral.
Something I've imagined is that maybe someone with the Paw-Paw fruit had their awakening on God Valley and teleported it away/into its own dimension/ erased it. It could've been Kuma as a child due to an unreal amount of stress and maybe he chose to never use those abilities again. Or someone who died tryna save God valley withbthe paw-paw fruit awakening and somehow Luma got his fruit later
I think Garp and Roger protected the balance of the world rather than the Celestial Dragons. They did not want to expand the battle because the CD have the weapons and power to literally destroy the world. I guess there weren't enough Joyboys to compete with the CD?
Well, we know Imu has some sort of obsession with Lily Nefritari and based off of the shadowing Vivi strongly resembles her. Once she is in his grasp or the gorosei, they might use this kind of threat or Uranus to force her to obey Imus demands even forced marriage. Regardless of her answer, I think Imu wouldn’t t care if he has Alabasta laid to waste or used for another human hunting competition. He will screw alabasta over just like Annabella from Final Fantasy 16 did to Rosaria, the Kingdom that Clive (protagonist) lived in.
Garland got the scar on his face from someone on the Rocks pirates during the celestial annual hunting games lol…This what prompted them to get Garp and Sengoku for support…Just so happen, Roger was also headed to the same island as Rocks to claim the territory and they all clashed…
I think we're understanding also why the Ope-Ope no mi was valued at 3 Billion berries...and why Doflamingo, the D.F. merchant/C.D. knew that. We haven't heard of any other D.F.'s worth in money. Apparently the C.D. can afford whatever they want. They must also be the ones who came up with the D.F. encyclopedia, so they can identify and price the D.F. This also explains why the admirals have the most OP D.F.'s and this explains why Who's who was in the ship protecting the Nika fruit, the W.G was prob up to no good. This is the entire D.F. underworld trading that's going on. Also explains how the CP0 agents got their D.F. and how Doflamingo got Ace's. Which then explains something else to us. The W.G. has been doing for a long time what B.B. figured out. How to steal and manipulate D.F.'s. So, then I'm going to assume that the D.F. were probably originally an ancient tech that the Ancient Kingdom figured out how to create. Imu, or whoever was Imu's equivalent in that time came in, deceived and overthrew them and took that tech. and has been using it for power and money ever since.
I said it years ago, that the void century is going to end up being the time period where the WG (Celestial Dragons) gave slaves DFs and killed them to figure out which DF did what! Still seems the most likely thing to me! Low key, what if Shanks was placed in a chest on some Saiyan Ish?!! 🤣🤣🤣
I believe that Silver Axe was a forerunner to Boa Hanock and is based off the Amazon Queen Penthesilea who carried a giant axe around and in the middle ages Penthesilea became one of the 9 Worthies a legendary collection of people who personify chivalry so because of this she was the traitor to the Rocks Crew and became a Gods Knight due to winning many matches in the tournament this is how Yorke thought she was able to become a World Noble or that like Buckingham Stussy the World Goverment got Sliver Axe's DNA and her clone became a God Knight.
My theory is that, God Valley is under Rocks Xebec's territory like Dressrosa to Doffy. The WG probably came by surprise, unannounced leaving the King of God Valley surprised, and Rock's crew weren't there at that moment.
Dragon quit when he saw Garling bet his own son. This cause him to leave given the slaves and the fact the pirates were trying to liberate the people. As for Roger and Garp I think dragon was the one who may have put shanks on Roger's ship. Garp is the hero of the marines because he helped saved the celestial dragons. however, the holy knights and the gorasei didn't want to make headlines so in similar fashion they gave Garp a promotion to quiet the story like with what happen to smokey. Dragon realizing the truth leaves. before he goes, he tells Garp about Luffy. Shanks mean while heads to east blue with the devil fruit stolen and goes to goa kingdom. The other situation I was going to bring up is both Mihawk and shanks went back and forth between the calm belt during the series. However, God valley was teleported to Marie josie where the Devil fruit tree now resides. How you may ask. by the same powers Kuma has. I think similar things happen during joe boy's time with Skypia and the pony glyphs. by the end of the series the red line will be destroyed and Garling will have a show down with shanks.
This tri-annual tournament has so many possibilities: it could be how celestial dragons are ranked among other families--- based on the strength of their slaves/ "champions", the disposal of their slaves or those that they deem troublemakers, training/ proving grounds for the Gods Knights or candidates, and even a grand reset of control of devil fruits that were eaten by slaves. One thing that intrigues me for future chapters is how are points gained in the tournament and how is it that St. Garling could have a 10,000 point deficit unless there's either 10,000+ slaves/ prey or the points of the prey are based on notable characteristics and possibly on obtaining a number of devil fruits. It would also be crazy if the tournament winner could choose the next venue (if the tournament is still ongoing). Charlos's family should they somehow win would probably choose Fish-Man Island or Alabasta if they are now unaffiliated post-Reverie.
I hope we find out that whitebeard just smashed garling figurland soo hard in the face with a gura fist during the wound he took, that it blinded him hence the glasses/shades. All jokes aside here’s what I actualy think. I feel like the treasure chest rewards for the competition at god valley is gunna be some of the most iconic Devil fruits ever. My ideas are the Phoenix fruit, the buddha fruit, kaidos fruit, DRAGONS fruit, Nika Nika fruit, and my favorite guess…. The paw paw fruit. I think everyone is gunna take a fruit at different times during the chaos. And to top it off, I believe someone is gunna see a baby shanks, try to take him to ransom off later, but ends up finding the chests. They see they are all empty BUT ONE!!! it has the Nika fruit and they think it’s gunna be worth more than a baby celestial dragon and leave shanks in the same chest the fruit was in. This comes with soo much symbolism. -Shanks being left in the chest of the df he was searching for later on in the story. - rodger and his crew surviving the battle and hoping to get a reward from one of the chests to find shanks in there instead. Perhaps rodger knew the Nika fruit was there and knew it was important. -kuma I feel HAS to get his df from god valley after everything he went though there. It MUST be in one of those chests. That’s just my though. 😂😂. Thanks for the input and hate that’s ghnna come my way Also last piece. I believe the trouble big mom is referring to is gunna be the Nika fruit in one of the chests at god valley. I believe rocks is gunna know EVERYTHING and is trying to get the nika fruit for himself. When the crew hears that their captains prized goal is at gods valley and it’s gunna be given away or eaten by someone else, they hop to it.
What of rocks was from god valley ? What if his father was the king and rocks had a vivery card or maybe just learned that his homeland was under attack? Garp being there doesn’t need a huge explanation he is a strong marine and probably was there to protect the CD’s .. and what if Rodger was a prisoner at the time. Being help captive or possibly being put in the human hunt as well (the latter less likely) and so rocks rushes to god valley to not save the slaves but protect his home with the rest of his crew coming after pretty much overwhelming the god knights and the marines and Rodger says he will help if he can get set free or Rodger is like koby and just can’t stand people dying weather they are good or bad… I could see rodgers crew coming to try to rescue him as well and what if the prize for the tournament could have been kiados fruit and amongst all the chaos the rocks pirates swapped the fruit for a random baby (shanks) and rodgers crew just being pirates plundering happen to take that chest …just a thought.. or 2 😅
what if whitebeard got the quake fruit from god valley? like he was fighting garling while roger/garp were fighting rocks and BM was looking for kaido, as they are fighting whitebeard eats the fruit because he was hungry not noing it was a DF like many others do. garling scars him prior the quake and then WB eventually wins. moving on to rocks i think WB either turned on rocks or promised to stop him if he lost his way since i find it imposible for whitebeard to follow someone evil, rocks must have had good intentions but eventually went about them the wrong way.
Im in the camp that Xebec isnt a good guy and was just the lesser of two evils and was chasing the poneglpyhs(sengoku said broke many taboo and reading the poneglpyhs is one of the first if not only taboo introduced in the story) Big mom probs said "big trouble" becuz roger pulled up to god valley first and garp was already tailing roger, so the rocks pirates had to reassess the situation and ultimately chose to go still Something just occurred to me, what if the man marked by flames is the person who hid shanks in a treasure chest and he was a survivor from god valley, he could be a slave or ex celestial dragon the burn scar man seems to be a gatekeeper like shanks and probaly lurks in shanks territory on elbaf, their connection might run deep
My theory on the God Valley Factions and what they wanted Rocks: Kill all celestial dragons/gods knights. Not caring if they kill Slaves and Natives while they're at it Garp: Protect the slaves and native people from Rocks, and (Begrudgingly) protect the Celestial dragons Navy: Stop Roger and Rocks, protect the Celestials Roger: Stop Rocks/Protect the innocent people (Slaves and Natives) Dragon(?): Allow as few deaths as possible, and escape with the slaves Gods Knights: Just have some fun doing some good old murdering of everyone (probably "allied" Rogers crew as well if they could get away with it)
Rocks' crew were the Strawhats' of the old generation? #1 guy in Rocks (Luffy) 3 other top level fighters Whitestache (Zoro), Big Mom (Jinbei), baby Kaido (Sanji), some scientist Ms Buckingham (Franky). A smallish crew, Roger had well over 10 people on his crew(s) if I'm remembering correctly, a lot of similarities.
I realy want to know whats poop to start the incident. Look, for some reason, even with the incident, Garling become the “champion of God Valey”. He become a champion before or after the incident? Maybe he wins by points (because he was so far ahead in points) and right before he execute one of major characters (like Kuma, Ginny, Ivan ), like in style fashion, someone like Roger interfere. After that everybody pounce and the party started. Man in so excited for this next chapter! Good job bro!
Honestly I never expected to see god valley in the manga other that some shadow and a few mention here and there. Like a lot of people I was expecting god valley to be a one piece movie at some point from what we know of it. Because it's just too big the rocks pirates, roger, garp, celestial dragon now we've got kuma and iva probably dragon as a young marine, saturn and possibly multiple devil fruit. Oda is really playing with us because he can still skip god valley, just flash foward toward the end to see Iva and kuma having a devil fruit and escaping, everyone scaterring after rocks defeat. But just the thought that we may see everything that happend there in the manga and in a year this animated. It's insane. Oda is having fun like never before I'm sure after Wano we heard that the end will come soon, the final saga etc and for a time a believe it from what we learn on Egghead and what happend with Sabo but now. The man just throw off new stuff like the bucaneer, an purge/hunger game that happend every 3 years until god valley. It could be a short flashback focus on Kuma and what lead to the revolutionnary and we might learn the rest later when we met shanks again..
What if... And here me out! This where Rayleigh helped Shaki, his wife. As well as, during this incident, among the treasures Roger pirates took, Rayleigh took Yoru! The blade of Mihawk, you see, mihawk is the son of shaki. Shanks and mMihawk share the same birthday! Rayleigh saved her and baby mihawk from Garp because she was a Rocks pirate. And Rayleigh is Mihawks stepfather and is the one who gave him Yoru! What would be a better treasure to offer up than a Famous, jeweled incrusted, Sword the looks like the symbol of the World Government!
Brago, hear me out. In the manga 1095 we saw in the 13th page some chests that look exactly like the one that contained Luffy's Devil Fruit. Those boxes probably contains some strong fruits that will be given to the winner of the human Hunt. Rock'S D. Xebec, like BlackBeard, is looking for the strong devil fruit's and will attack the Island loking specially for the Hito Hito no Mi model Nika, this will force the marines to call a buster call and that will drag Garp, Son Goku and a young Dragon Marine to God Valley. In the conflict some of Rock's members will eat or stole the fruits, that how Kaido obtained his, and probably how White Beard got his or Marco's fruit. Dragon will see in first hand the horrors of the celestial Dragons, will stole one of the fruit, probably a mythical zoan or logia related to wind/wheater. There he will free the slaves and start the Revolutionary army. The question that remains is how and why Roger will end up there. This will advance the One Piece narrative tremendously and tie a bunch of loose storylines together
I think Garp may have gotten the Smoker treatment. I believe Garling did the clean up on God Valley and Garp got praised for it. Why? Well perhaps Garling's existence as a God's knight is something that's top secret only known by high ranking WG officials and celestial dragons
I think the Celestial dragons went to Godvalley but somehow ran into rocks pirates and when the celestials run into trouble they call a top tier usually an admiral maybe this time it was garp, but then Roger showed up, picking a fight too with rocks, garp and Roger work together to defeat rocks. And the battle makes the celestials run for safety which meant everyone who couldn't get away was left behind like Garling abandoning his son, shanks in a chest.
I think rocks pirates had godvalley as their “affiliate” island to get resources and when celestial dragons decided to do the hunting game over there rocks had no choice but to defend it. After that because of the chaos, marines which is garp and his fleet comes to the island to help the CD but roger on the other hand just nearby and just wanna see whats happening on the island he loves to fight strong people right? Remember when he fought oden and asking the marine for garp or sengoku to catch him he just love a good fight
BROOO what if the person who found out about the devil fruits was the Old Hag From Wano who was with Kaido. She already had the clone fruit so she could disguise herself at The Kingdom and See everything before it happend. She knew everything about Godvalley. I also think that big mom took the territories of Rocks Kaido Took The Legendary Fruit Whitebeard probably ate his fruit ON god valley to fight back against garling. While other pirates like Wang Zhi were on pirate island and John was Taking All The Celestial Dragons Good for himself ultimately leading in The Crew Mates Killing Him.
We only heard xebec's side from WG's perspective. Also i find roger siding with the WG so intriguing. Why would roger side with the WG? Maybe xebec was actually a good guy. They said that the rocks pirates constantly fight with each other. The strawhats always fight too but not in a death match type of fight. Its more like a gag especially with zoro and sanji. And take note the former members of rocks pirates also have their dreams of a perfect world but they lost their way when rocks pirate fell. Take kaido and bigmom for example kaido knows about joyboy and at one point believed that he could be joyboy. And bigmom had this idea of a perfect world and they believe that they can only achieve this with projecting their strengths. Maybe this is the timeline where they failed to achieve their dreams thats why they turned bad just like what oda draw on the strawhat's timeline if something bad happens. But unlike bigmom and kaido, white beard didn't became bad because he achieved his dream to have a family.
1. Sengoku said roger happened to be there and that why garp worked with him and the celestial dragons to defeat rocks. 2. Sengoku also said the rocks crew was formed for one money making scheme. I think rocks knew about the hunt and as soon as he found out the island it was on went there in order to complete there money making scheme do to all the prizes and treasure the celestial dragons bought with them. I think roger was on god valley to visit rogue and that why he was alone and without his crew.
I always assumed that the shadow figure talking to Kaido was Xebec. Otherwise if its Big mom or White beard, there would be no reason to hide them being a shadow.
@@cloudi-.3709 In the anime its not big mom voice at all. And in the manga Oda drew the person as a silhouette, why would he do that if it was big mom? We already know what she looked like so why hide her?
It might not seem that serious but it actually disgusts me that we have fans with such tiny brains they come to the conclusion that the silhouette is big mom. It’s sad asf and I don’t see how u get to that conclusion without some type of mental disability. Or maybe just no reading comprehension or something
Roger spent his last four years of life with rouge remember shanks is 7 years younger than rouge. Roger left the crew at 56 meeting a 18 year old Rouge who in 5 years gives birth to ace and dies at age 23 Rouge elder sister was abducted by pirates or slave traders or sold by their own blood family to the celestials to pay a tribune exchange for the rest of the family of portgas d Rouge being able to live However rouge was 3 years old when her older sister was 20 and sold into celestial captivity She would later meet rocks d xebec at age 21 or 22 but after short years of being a slave she was freed by xebec during a celestial raid lead by rocks and at age 23 she became pregnant and at 24 she died giving birth to shanks who would in 1 year meet Roger after the fall Of Xebec who actually asked Roger and garp to look after 1 year old shanks (hence Roger telling garp he knows he will look after ace BECAUSE THEY DID THE SAME FOR SHANKS THE SON OF ROGERS MOST FORMIDABLE RIVAL) If you Look at both Shanks And Ace remove aces Freckles And picture shanks with Black hair they are practically Identical twins but shanks Is the elder cousin of Ace due to their mothers Being biological sibling Sisters shanks mother is 17 Years older than portgas d Rouge Nico olvia was 20 years old when Roger found shanks and 12 years later died at age 32 when shanks was 13 DURING THE BUSTER CALL 2 YEARS LATER SHANKS IS 15 ATTENDING ROGERS EXECUTION Nico olvia got pregnant around24 years of age after sailing 4 years with Roger she later was docked back in O'Hara to safely have robin then at age 27 (Go look at Robin's flashback enies lobby an looknat her at age 2) nico olvia is getting on a ship and there's a man saying "are you coming or not olvia" this man is in silhouette and crossing his arms in Roger's fashion and infamous pose However he isn't wearing a strawhat but a captains hat Also the oro Jackson wasn't given to Roger until he sailed to water 7 at age 53 which is when he picked olvia prior to sailing to water 7 to get his new ship from tom But in no doubt it's Roger because shanks is 8 years old in the O'Hara flashback and is currently wearing Roger's hat so when you look at the man in silhouette picking up olvia on a ship it undoubtedly is Roger because roger gave shanks his strawhat when shanks was 4 years of age Nico olvia would spend 3 more years on the oro Jackson until Roger's departure (Go read 967 and 968 nico olvia is the woman with white hair sitting with her arms cross when Roger's comes out of his cabin also the Roger pirate hot tube spring pannel in the manga you can see nico olvia by shanks Nico olvia is in 967 and 968 Also she was 30 years old when Roger left the crew at 56 then 2 years later She dies from the buster call The same would've happened to rouges island home land Which is the Reason ROGER TURNED HIMSELF IN ASIDE from his illness Roger wanted to prevent another buster call To keep the govt from another unnecessary Slaughter because robin His first child was fortunate to survive The first one But see Roger was still alive during the buster call And he suspect both robin and Olvia to be dead Which is why he told Garp "HEY GARP YOU KNOW IVE GOT A BABY ON THE WAY....A BOY I BET" because he suspect his first child daughter to be deceased due to the buster call So Roger turned himself in to Prevent the same from happening To rouges land Portgas d rouge is 12 years younger than nico olvia So when the buster call happened Roger already spent 2 years with rouge who was 20 years old during the buster call Also Whitebeards son was born 6 years after rogers death LUFFY was born 5 years after Rogers death Zoro was born 3 years after Rogers death And Ace was born 1 years after rogers DEATH
You notice how much he peak of is split in the shanks flash back but the peak is full in the introduction of god valley that we got this chapter. I am believing down might have happen too it.
The fact that rock was this notorious pirate that fought the pirate king and probably one of the strongest characters in one piece and all we know about is who his crew was and his name is just ridiculous, oda is cooking something serious in that kitchen , rocks is not what they making us to believe , in my opinion , rocks was the previous king of pirates and owner of the gum gum fruit , rocks is also from kumas home place and in order to tame whitebeard big mom kaido etc etc you gotta have one hell of a bloodline cause those characters alone are freaking monsters and garp and roger and freaking monsters and he fought both of them so yea , rocks probably was himmy d butler for sure
I bet Garling and the Knights also helped Garp, Sengoku, & Roger no way I'm buying just Garp and Roger taking Rocks AND his entire crew (especially not a prime Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, & Whitebeard), the Garling definitely aided in this battle. And it makes sense that Rocks was more than likely like Blackbeard in that he wanted to take over the world, freeing the people of God Valley was just a formality or simply in line with his goal to get Devil Fruits to feed his crew just like Blackbeard did for his crew picking the best-suited fruits for them, I bet the "lick" was Rocks and the crew pulling up to steal Devil Fruits and the "TROUBLE" is the Navy pulling up to backup the Celestial Dragons during their hunt and they were either ambushed or Rocks knew and went anyway and got betrayed by his crew who according to them they hated him. I just don't buy Garp and Roger beating Rocks and his crew even with Garling in the frey.
It could be the tittle of king or champion was awarded to the winner of the tournament. So the original mistranslation can still apply. A king is also a champion of the people a representative of a country or organization. The phrase king of the tournament. The undefeated winner can be referred to as king of god valley.
I'm pretty sure the WG destroyed God Valley like Lulusia Kingdom with the Mother Flame or Ancient Weapon that they have. Also, maybe God Valley was Rock D. Xebec's home island and he wanted to protect it while killing the Celestial Dragons, God Knights and potentially Gorosei on his step towards rivaliing Imu and becoming King of the World. It also possible that Dragon's mother could have been a Celestial Dragon but was exile or shunned for falling in love with Garp and having Dragon. Dragon seengi the CD killing slaves will push him to later abandon the marines causing his conflict with Akainu.
I am hoping that Divine Departure is Garling's move and Roger stole it like Zoro stole Foxfire Style. Swordsmen may have a tendency of doing this within One Piece if they find a certain swordplay interesting enough to conquer.
I think it's something like with Alabasta. Roger and the crew got involved with a a person from a country they had nothing to do with and fought a war for their friend lol
What if xebec was actuality the one ambushed at god valley then the rest of the crew got tipped off and garp and rodger stopped them trying to prevent a war with the world government? A war rodger knew needed joy boy's return
The only thing I can think of is Rocks was looking for new territory and probably heard that god valley had gold and a devil fruit tree!!! The celestial dragons probably had the same idea to claim god valley as their territory but Rocks already claimed it
maybe GV was apart of Rocks territory, similar to Shanks & Elbaf, Wb & fishman island, Bm & totland or Kaido & Wano. so Rocks had to protect his turf type shit
White beard was shown in flash backs where he was talking to roger in the oden flashbacks and he didn’t have the scar yet if I remember correctly… so I think it still might be roger they probably had a final duel or something before roger finally turned himself in.
I never thought saturn might be bored and so he is so talkative and wants to take it slow but you are 100% right. I mean what the hell is he gonna do after this mission is over? Get back to mary geoise and do the same things he does every day. So why would he want to end these fleeting moments of excitement after so long? He is annoyed vegapunk is alive because he has to work or the marines will be destroyed by the pacifistas and the seraphim, he doesn't know they are captured, but at the same time inside he is like finally something new after years of boredom. Since he most likely is immortal as well imagine how bored he must be having everything a lot of people could dream off but nothing to do except making sure the wg remains in power. What is there to excite him in this world except something out of the ordinary? In some way this is why kaido and big mom fell because after decades of being unmatched they didn't want to go all out because this was the first time in decades they actually had to try in a fight to win. So if they immediately won it would have been the same old for them.
@@novasoul99 yep but in saturn's case you kinda get that like the guy is bored like hell and now he has a chance to do something no one has ever done even amongst the gorosei which is to kill nika. It is a bit of mixed emotions. Saturn probably doesn't want to waste time there but at the same time where he will get another opportunity to have that kind of fun when he is sure he is gonna win? It is a mix of boredom with arrogance and a sense of superiority. He has his enemies where he wants so there really is no need to rush in his mind.
In the anime I think they made it a male voice for the "Big trouble Kaido.. we need to go to God Valley," part. And then Big Mom is next when she goes, "Where did that rat go?" Or something like that I think
I’m going around discord saying that Garling helped out, defeating Xebec, with Roger and Garp. The only information right now is based on. He became champion of God Valley after a 10,000 points deduction. My guess is he did a sneaky final blow into Xebec granted him a significant figure in God Valley. Not just scarring white beard.
i think its very important to note that those "events" take place every 3 years. there has to have been more of them and also maybe untill recently. were gonna have to go and search for events that could have been similair in nature. especially since the gorosei were talking about cleansing events recently. there has to be so much lore about events we know about that were not even aware of yet
@@vamshibhat very much possible, seeing how garling is still the commander of the godknights and the complete island+event has been erased from history💪🏽👍🏼
If this flashback we’re in includes the entire God Valley story, it’s about to be goated on highhhhh!!
Sounds too good to turn out true
@@evgeniygerkus9242Most likely only Kuma's pov
I think it's just a Kumar flashback, it might show some things happening from his perspective, but I think when Garling plays a role in the story is when we get the proper backstory of what happened
@@SamReynols that sounds more realistic, but then again, how much did Kuma witness himself? I guess we'll have to wait and see
but whitebeard has no scar on chest during oden flashback.
Xebec was probably the WG scapegoat for the incident. WG had no choice to make Garp “Hero” in order to save face.
Exactly!! And garp is so careless because he knows everything and he can leak that secret to the world.. so whatever garp does, no one questions him!!
Yeah that's why garp doesn't like to talk much about god valley as stated by sengoku as he is ashamed.
Exactly!! We only heard xebec's side from WG's perspective. Also i find roger siding with the WG so intriguing. Why would roger side with the WG? Maybe xebec was actually a good guy. They said that the rocks pirates constantly fight with each other. The strawhats always fight too but not in a death match type of fight. Its more like a gag especially with zoro and sanji. And take note the former members of rocks pirates also have their dreams of a perfect world but they lost their way when rocks pirate fell. Take kaido and bigmom for example kaido knows about joyboy and at one point believed that he could be joyboy. And bigmom had this idea of a perfect world and they believe that they can only achieve this with projecting their strengths. Maybe this is the timeline where they failed to achieve their dreams thats why they turned bad just like what oda draw on the strawhat's timeline if something bad happens. But unlike bigmom and kaido, white beard didn't became bad because he achieved his dream to have a family.
This adds a completely new layer to that meeting with Whitebeard and Shanks. Can you imagine? These two legends meet and Whitebeard is talking about a scar he received from Shanks’s blood family and Shanks is talking about a scar he got from Whitebeard’s chosen family? What an interactions
Damn..
Maybe God valley was a territory of the Rocks pirates
It would make sense given we are told it's abundant in resources
And it would fall in place well with what the person who told kaido about there being trouble at God Valley. Roger probably headed there because there must have been something special on God Valley that Rocks was in possession of, maybe a lode poneglyph and Garp must've been chasing Roger so then the three forces all met at God Valley and Garp seeing the celestial dragons there had to uphold his duty to protect them and sided with Roger to help him do it, since they both had a common enemy.
Garp certainly doesn’t give af abt his duty enough to protect cd hunting people. He protected them for another reason
You got to ask yourself where Big Mom got her Road Poneglyph, wouldn't be surprised if it was originally on God valley.
What if Rocks was following the will of D to kill celestial dragons? And was stopped by garp? But we don't know it yet whether Garp is enemy of rocks or not..
@@kurotaichou Unless what he saw at God Valley made him change his mind about CDs and pirates
Also the chest that Shanks was in is way bigger than the six chests behind the master of ceremonies. There were probably lots of other treasure chests. Those six chests looked like the mini DF chests that Shanks had the Nika fruit in.
What if shanks put the Nika fruit in the chest he was found in thatd be kinda wholesome
I feel like shanks was put in the chest for his own safety. The island was under attack and someone, most likely Garling, was with shanks and had to leave him behind to enter the battlefield.
Ah yes...
Pirate hunter Zoro
Marine hunter Mihawk
And last but not least
Civilian hunter Garling!
Lol
I still think Xebec is Shanks’ father and Shanks’ mom is Garland’s sister. I believe the Gorosei didn’t like any celestial dragon especially one from the Figarland family dating someone from the D. clan, so they decided to hold her execution on God Valley and that’s when Xebec made his way there to get his son and wife, but ultimately failed.
Unrelated but I actually think Luffy's mum is Crocodile's sister. I have a feeling he's Luffy's uncle, and that's the secret Ivankov was alluding to.
@felixmejia5129 Luffy and Shanks are related their part celestial dragon think prince and the pauper but as Moses and you might find Shank's as his son if they garling is his grandfather and makes his family work for it Either death or not and so rocks could be the reason they all go to god valley because he wanted shanks back idk let's wait for Oda
@@Sweet_KarmaLuffy mom is a celestial dragon she might be garlins family
@@simplicitysitrucYeah I'm going to need more context on that lol go on. There's a few reasons why I think Crocodile is related to Luffy and they're all based on what Oda has said in past interviews or what's written/drawn in SBS. I don't believe the woman theory
@@Sweet_Karma I honestly think croc is an okama that’s the secret …. There’s dudes petrified of him to find out he’s a she would have a lot of guys not fearing him ….. ( kuina to zoro females get weaker than men the older we get it’s natural)
I don't think for a second that Roger and Garp actually fought and took down rocks. When Oda introduced us to the God Valley incident, I think he said that to deceive us and throw us off his trails. I think Rocks, Garp, and Roger were fighting to protect the people of God Valley or something along those lines. Garling, or even possibly another holy knight, or one of the gorosei probably took out rocks, but to remain their level of being unknown throughout the world they shifted the credit to someone else. Kinda like what they did to Sabo with the Cobra situation.
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Rocks being taken out by a holy knight fodder is absurd. Especially since he was hyped up to be as strong as Roger.
God valley looked like free for all, maybe garp, roger and rocks met they all fought, garp and roger realised rocks was too strong so decided to jump? That makes more sense than some random holy knight taking him down
Known Ages during the incident.
Whitebeard 36.
Garp 40
Roger 39.
These men were in their prime.
Dragon 17 same age as Luffy prets
Kaido 21
Big Mom 30 (19sons and 11daughters mont dor was born 38yrs ago so he would be her latest child around this time)
Probably Shirohige without a devil fruit and one the chest has the Gura gura no mi
Garp was 40 years old. Roger was 39 and Whitebeard was 36 ..
Garp and Roger could be considered in their prime since they're approximately the same ages as characters who are in their prime rn, i.e. Shanks and Mihawk..
Whitebeard on the other wasn't in his prime 😐..
@@unclealii743 How so? With only a 3 yrs difference from Roger?
@@thefearlessshaheen2366 Like I said, One Piece characters are considered to be in their prime in their late thirties/early forties ..
Garp and Roger, both 40 and 39 years old respectively, at God Valley..
Kaido and Oden, both 39 years old at the time of the latter's death..
Shanks and Mihawk, both 39 and 43 years old respectively in the current storyline..
With so many other top tiers' prime being considered in that age range, is it too much of a stretch to think that Whitebeard wasn't in his prime at that point in time?
If dragon was there and left because of Godsvalley. It would probably add to why Garp doesn’t/didn’t want to be an admiral
That would probably because they are all D and they dont like to be slaves of any individual.
Dragon definitely is the underrated character in all of this he was 17 same age as prets Luffy at this time. Rocks and Roger were a huge influence to what he's been doing since I feel
He was on Garo's ship
@@dariuswilliams7509 I’m think he was a young Marine following in Garps footsteps until that day. Which made him change his outlook towards the government and even Garp.
Or maybe Dragons real father is Rocks D. Xebec😂😂😂
Yo Brago, the celestial dragons chose “God Vally” because they didn’t like the fact that there was “God” in the name. They said it was blasphemous.
Sorry, he did say it in the video😅
exactly, even though Oda already stated that, these content creators always try to reach for more even after the man himself said it...
love brago, but sometimes he's trying too much..
Lmfao I get wym sometimes people do like reaching for too much
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@@riolucariolu96thank you lmao, mfs actin like he ain’t say that
He already stated that
My theory is the celestial dragons were holding their tournament on god valley, while the rocks crew pulled up to go after the celestials and Roger pulled up because he thought there would be someone strong to fight. Once they arrive the tournament just turns into an all out brawl. Where the navy now intervenes, and now it’s the navy vs rocks pirates vs roger pirates. The only reason why Roger and Garp teamed up was because rocks was decimating everyone on both sides.
I don't think so in kaido flashback he said that rocks went to godvalley because something big already happened
@@itzrohith6257 well, I remember that flashback and all that was said to Kaido was that there was trouble and they needed to go to god valley. The trouble part could’ve been that the rock pirates were gonna ransack god valley for their rich resources and the celestial dragons with the navy got there before they did or they were planning to go after the celestial dragons but Roger crew had gotten there first, possibly ruining their plans. My main theory was that they were tipped off and needed to go after the celestial dragons. For a bunch of celestial dragons to be in one place, that’s outside of Mary Geoise, is a rare opportunity. Even in the newest chapter it’s stated the last time of the tournament was held was 3 years prior. So I don’t think Xebec wanted to waste this opportunity.
This is the sanest and simplest theory to be honest. I think people are reading way too much into it.
For the story it makes a lot of sense for Garling to scar Whitebeard at God Valley, but the problem is, we know for a fact that Whitebeard had no scars on his chest after God Valley incident from Oden's flashback.
Yeah that could be an easy change but I agree
Probably an inconsistency in the art.
@@amartinez97 probably not.. Occam's razor
Garling may challenged whitebeard after some time
@@bdalawthing is he doesn’t have it in he flashback but he does have it (in he anime atleast) when receiving the news of rogers death
Saturn mentioned in the new chapter that he was surprised that the strawhats are so loyal to eachother. Since he doesn't leave the holy land much, the only real experience Saturn has had with powerful pirates was at god valley. I think maybe the reason the rocks pirates went over to god valley was because rocks had a personal connection to god valley, however since none of the other pirates in that crew really care about eachother, they could have turned on rocks without much hesitation. Now the other thing we KNOW about god valley was that garp and roger had to defend the celestial dragons (which is why I don't think it was a setup). What I believe happened was that the celestial dragons were threatened and so they offered up the prizes to the pirates for protection and that's how everyone got different chests with devil fruits and garling's son. I don't know how this could tie in to the Roger pirates and dragon (since this is probably where he meets kuma).
Dragon was 17, he could've been a marine
Don't see Roger wanting to protect celestial dragons even for a devil fruit prize
Garling actually betting his son makes sense. He is arrogant enough in his abilities and based on how they were raised you are right about it being very difficult to do anything of value and having stakes in an activity. Even playing normal games is meaningless unless they have something to lose. But what could any of them lose that is important and can't get back with ease? What could be priceless? A devil fruit? A family member? Something rare or even unique? And the same goes as to why they would bother playing such a game if they couldn't gain something. Sure they get revenge on the slaves they don't like but in order to be willing to compete in a game where the celestial dragons would have to do physical labor they should have a big prize waiting for them if they win. Yeah garling betting his son would be reasonable at this point.
I do not think Shanks is Garlin's son but a clone, and he is not the only one.The 'Shanks' that had the meeting with the Gorosei is the other Garling clone. Remember the God's Knights siluette looking a lot like Shanks ... there you go!
@@juliotencio5695 I thought only germa had ways to clone people. Don't get me wrong it wouldn't be a bad theory but why would the celestial dragons clone themselves if they have relationships and families already in mary geoise. They would end up overpopulating for no reason. But putting a clone in a chest as a prize is not something of value because the clone can be reproduced. Something like a devil fruit for example is unique in the world and even if someone eats it when they die the devil fruit will appear again but as a prize any devil fruit is unique in the world and a prize for any celestial dragons that wants something different from the others.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 at this point we have no idea how baby Shanks ends up inside that chest.
I see your point on the clone situation maybe it is his son ... but I am sure there is another "Shanks" under the goverment control ... that meeting with the Gorosei makes no sense unless the Shanks we saw isnt the Shanks we know, Oda is a genious and he was smart to hide that "Shank's" left eye and it's scars.
@@juliotencio5695 shanks will be a mystery for a while imo. Even if garling bet him as a prize maybe he was an illegitimate son and he was trying to get rid of him since it seems the female celestial dragons were swooning over garling so maybe he was single by that time. Lots of theories and lots of ways it can go. Maybe garling protected shanks as long as he doesn't go directly against them or something else who knows. But now it is getting interesting since we will finally find out more about one of biggest mysteries in one piece. Maybe shanks has a twin and garling bet only one of them for fun who knows. But let's not theorize too much because we might end up being disappointed although oda is very good at surprising us positively at the most unexpected moments.
chronologically speaking garling didnt scar whitebeard in god valley, we know that because in the oden flashback whitebeard has no scars and the last time roger and whitebeard meet whitebeard has one scar(presumably from roger from what i can remember it was confirmed in an sbs by oda that roger did scar whitebeard) and wb at that point was still missing the weird L scar and the X scar which were likely caused by garling anywhere between rogers execution to the day he met with shanks
Sounds like a pothole lol
@@donovanjr284your excuse
@@Dr.HooWho ok... 😆
Some translations have wound so it doesn’t have to be a scar but I understand wym
@@donovanjr284 its not a plothole though, it doesnt mean garling and wb didnt meet after god valley, hell they might have not even crossed swords in god valley
Its gonna be wild if we see Rocks as the good dude and Roger defending the CD. Garp and Rayleigh have some explaining to do
Why would Roger and Rayleigh have any explanation to do? Rocks were their biggest rivals he teamed up with Garp to get rid of rival pirates.
@@udithsethu552facts at end of the day they’re pirates
I’m just excited to see xebec, need to see how one man can have these over powered crew mates all in one ship
Honestly this just creates plot holes for Garp. He knows even more than what he was letting on, but he never toke action.
Oh yeah. Garps a bit too open about his opinions about celestial dragons. I'd say that he chose to continue to be a marine to serve and protect. It's the reason why he stayed a Vice admiral. He didn't want to be under the direct thumb of the celestial dragons, but wanted to have enough authority in the marines. Whatever happened in god valley, probably showed him how fucked up the world government really was, but I imagine rocks didn't set a very good standard for being a pirate.
With him being a D. the WG is already on his ass he acts stupid purposely. based on Roger leaving Ace with Garp I’m assuming he also left with him information on the one piece/void century and Garp took it upon himself to ensure everything was in place secretly by the time Ace/Luffy was old enough. Remember there’s still Sword with koby and others working secretly apart for the Wg
@@HeadbutKneecap could also be that he knew too much, and he was worried that his own home island would be the next site of the CD's twisted hunt?
@@Someaddress555sexactly his hands are tied as a marine but his kids however… he could’ve easily kept Dragon/Luffy, Ace, Sabo with him and raised them as Marines but he let them find the truth for themselves I think that’s his way. I think he plays a big part in Sword as well
@@Beamken I was more getting at he knew if he left the WG then the Celestial Dragons might choose to wipe out Goa Kingdom where we Garp is from in their next hunt, and likely still has ties to peoplw there if not the royal family themselves. So instead Garp stayed an unwilling Vice Admiral, which gave some cover to his home island instead of making it a potential target.
I think xebec was a slave just like everyone else but he got his hands on the op dark fruit that black beard has now but I believe it’s also a mythical zoan which when Xebec ate instantly awakened maybe because Xebec was already thinking of very dark things from being a slave or just the soul and the fruit clicked
I think whitebeard will play a roll in explaining the bucaneer race further because I think he is of that race too.
@KereTista-km9ck there are similarities, look up the young whitebeard and compare it to young kuma. also their chins both have those weird edges. i think its hidden from us because WB is so ripped. I think he was such a exeptional strong pirate because the tremble DF he ate was such a great fit to his already great strength :)
@KereTista-km9ckkappa doesnt look like normal fish men yet
Hey brago just gotta say love the content man, keep up the great work king! A theory I had about god valley was that rocks may have been a little crazy mentally and somehow found out about the Nika fruit and thought he would be the coming joyboy. His flag has similar designs to luffys gear 5th form. Maybe I’m reading into it too much, but maybe kuma prayed nika would come and rocks and his crew showed up instead. Just an idea I wanted to share :)
Maybe Roger heard about God valley having so many resources and wanted to steal some treasure since this was the peak of piracy. Then he opens the chest&sees a random baby instead of devil fruits or gold
I think what happened was that both Xebec and Roger heard news about the event that happens every 3 years on God Valley taking place with the prizes involved that were deemed important to both pirate crews. Rogers crew wanted to free the slaves to feel liberated while Xebec wanted to free the slaves to feel anarchy, which foreshadows Luffy’s and Blackbeards relationship. I also think that Xebec was the user of the dark-dark devil fruit that BB has. Awakening the DF is the return of Xebec that the marines mentioned just like Luffy awakening G5 is the return of Joyboy. As far as the holy knights and Garp goes, they were escorting the celestial dragons around during the event until both pirate crews clashed but I think Xebec and his crew were that powerful that both the Roger Pirates and Marines/Holy Knights needed to team up against them.
Bro, I just had the craziest thought. What if Garp and Roger actually broke up the war between rocks and the God Knights on God Valley? You have a pirate with Roger that could get the rocks Pirates to chill out and you had Garp that could help the god Knights and together they put an end to it. But knowing the world government, after they chilled out, something sketchy happened and they killed rocks. It’s the people who win the wars that write the history and it has totally been written to show that rocks was this horrible person and he was destroyed on God valley but who knows, the reality is probably that he was stabbed in the back when he least expected it just because they hated him. I don’t know, I’m driving and I’m just brainstorming while listening to your video.
"They killed Rocks", enter Kong who we know little about but looks like an effing battle scarred tank and was above Garp and Sengoku at that time as an Admiral.
Something I've imagined is that maybe someone with the Paw-Paw fruit had their awakening on God Valley and teleported it away/into its own dimension/ erased it.
It could've been Kuma as a child due to an unreal amount of stress and maybe he chose to never use those abilities again.
Or someone who died tryna save God valley withbthe paw-paw fruit awakening and somehow Luma got his fruit later
Roger and his crew don’t even seem to be beat up after the incident in addition to the island still being there in the sketches. Hmmmm.
I think Garp and Roger protected the balance of the world rather than the Celestial Dragons.
They did not want to expand the battle because the CD have the weapons and power to literally destroy the world.
I guess there weren't enough Joyboys to compete with the CD?
Only one joyboy. Mika fruit just hadn’t chosen anyone by that time
@@belowaveragegamer95wrong. Zoro is the first joyboy kid.
@@HeWhoisHim. Wait wuttttt. What did I miss? When did this happen? Was this in an SBS? Please I gotz to know
@@subhaanshaikh4923 read chapter 5 title. Zoro is the one piece boy. Now bow down to the king.
@@subhaanshaikh4923 Zoro is the man rodger was waiting for not luffy.
God valley name shows that God fou8 on that island cant u see valley cut in perfect half like sword cut
Omg alabasta will be the next stop for the competition. That’s why Imu picked Vivi
Well, we know Imu has some sort of obsession with Lily Nefritari and based off of the shadowing Vivi strongly resembles her. Once she is in his grasp or the gorosei, they might use this kind of threat or Uranus to force her to obey Imus demands even forced marriage. Regardless of her answer, I think Imu wouldn’t t care if he has Alabasta laid to waste or used for another human hunting competition. He will screw alabasta over just like Annabella from Final Fantasy 16 did to Rosaria, the Kingdom that Clive (protagonist) lived in.
maybe...
hmm maybe another god valley like incident might happen but it will get covered up like they cover everything up
No jole, the Rocks Pirates and their flashback is the one thing I've waited more than anything innthis series since its introduction.
Oda sweating
Garland got the scar on his face from someone on the Rocks pirates during the celestial annual hunting games lol…This what prompted them to get Garp and Sengoku for support…Just so happen, Roger was also headed to the same island as Rocks to claim the territory and they all clashed…
I think we're understanding also why the Ope-Ope no mi was valued at 3 Billion berries...and why Doflamingo, the D.F. merchant/C.D. knew that. We haven't heard of any other D.F.'s worth in money. Apparently the C.D. can afford whatever they want. They must also be the ones who came up with the D.F. encyclopedia, so they can identify and price the D.F.
This also explains why the admirals have the most OP D.F.'s and this explains why Who's who was in the ship protecting the Nika fruit, the W.G was prob up to no good. This is the entire D.F. underworld trading that's going on. Also explains how the CP0 agents got their D.F. and how Doflamingo got Ace's.
Which then explains something else to us. The W.G. has been doing for a long time what B.B. figured out. How to steal and manipulate D.F.'s. So, then I'm going to assume that the D.F. were probably originally an ancient tech that the Ancient Kingdom figured out how to create. Imu, or whoever was Imu's equivalent in that time came in, deceived and overthrew them and took that tech. and has been using it for power and money ever since.
Whitebeard got scar after wano in offscreen
I said it years ago, that the void century is going to end up being the time period where the WG (Celestial Dragons) gave slaves DFs and killed them to figure out which DF did what! Still seems the most likely thing to me! Low key, what if Shanks was placed in a chest on some Saiyan Ish?!! 🤣🤣🤣
I believe that Silver Axe was a forerunner to Boa Hanock and is based off the Amazon Queen Penthesilea who carried a giant axe around and in the middle ages Penthesilea became one of the 9 Worthies a legendary collection of people who personify chivalry so because of this she was the traitor to the Rocks Crew and became a Gods Knight due to winning many matches in the tournament this is how Yorke thought she was able to become a World Noble or that like Buckingham Stussy the World Goverment got Sliver Axe's DNA and her clone became a God Knight.
My theory is that, God Valley is under Rocks Xebec's territory like Dressrosa to Doffy. The WG probably came by surprise, unannounced leaving the King of God Valley surprised, and Rock's crew weren't there at that moment.
Dragon quit when he saw Garling bet his own son. This cause him to leave given the slaves and the fact the pirates were trying to liberate the people. As for Roger and Garp I think dragon was the one who may have put shanks on Roger's ship. Garp is the hero of the marines because he helped saved the celestial dragons. however, the holy knights and the gorasei didn't want to make headlines so in similar fashion they gave Garp a promotion to quiet the story like with what happen to smokey. Dragon realizing the truth leaves. before he goes, he tells Garp about Luffy. Shanks mean while heads to east blue with the devil fruit stolen and goes to goa kingdom. The other situation I was going to bring up is both Mihawk and shanks went back and forth between the calm belt during the series. However, God valley was teleported to Marie josie where the Devil fruit tree now resides. How you may ask. by the same powers Kuma has. I think similar things happen during joe boy's time with Skypia and the pony glyphs. by the end of the series the red line will be destroyed and Garling will have a show down with shanks.
what if theres a ponegliff in god valley
I hope when the One Piece is revealed it makes the whole audience laugh just as much as Roger’s crew did.
This tri-annual tournament has so many possibilities: it could be how celestial dragons are ranked among other families--- based on the strength of their slaves/ "champions", the disposal of their slaves or those that they deem troublemakers, training/ proving grounds for the Gods Knights or candidates, and even a grand reset of control of devil fruits that were eaten by slaves.
One thing that intrigues me for future chapters is how are points gained in the tournament and how is it that St. Garling could have a 10,000 point deficit unless there's either 10,000+ slaves/ prey or the points of the prey are based on notable characteristics and possibly on obtaining a number of devil fruits.
It would also be crazy if the tournament winner could choose the next venue (if the tournament is still ongoing). Charlos's family should they somehow win would probably choose Fish-Man Island or Alabasta if they are now unaffiliated post-Reverie.
I hope we find out that whitebeard just smashed garling figurland soo hard in the face with a gura fist during the wound he took, that it blinded him hence the glasses/shades.
All jokes aside here’s what I actualy think.
I feel like the treasure chest rewards for the competition at god valley is gunna be some of the most iconic Devil fruits ever.
My ideas are the Phoenix fruit, the buddha fruit, kaidos fruit, DRAGONS fruit, Nika Nika fruit, and my favorite guess…. The paw paw fruit.
I think everyone is gunna take a fruit at different times during the chaos.
And to top it off, I believe someone is gunna see a baby shanks, try to take him to ransom off later, but ends up finding the chests. They see they are all empty BUT ONE!!! it has the Nika fruit and they think it’s gunna be worth more than a baby celestial dragon and leave shanks in the same chest the fruit was in.
This comes with soo much symbolism.
-Shanks being left in the chest of the df he was searching for later on in the story.
- rodger and his crew surviving the battle and hoping to get a reward from one of the chests to find shanks in there instead. Perhaps rodger knew the Nika fruit was there and knew it was important.
-kuma I feel HAS to get his df from god valley after everything he went though there. It MUST be in one of those chests.
That’s just my though. 😂😂. Thanks for the input and hate that’s ghnna come my way
Also last piece. I believe the trouble big mom is referring to is gunna be the Nika fruit in one of the chests at god valley. I believe rocks is gunna know EVERYTHING and is trying to get the nika fruit for himself. When the crew hears that their captains prized goal is at gods valley and it’s gunna be given away or eaten by someone else, they hop to it.
What of rocks was from god valley ? What if his father was the king and rocks had a vivery card or maybe just learned that his homeland was under attack? Garp being there doesn’t need a huge explanation he is a strong marine and probably was there to protect the CD’s .. and what if Rodger was a prisoner at the time. Being help captive or possibly being put in the human hunt as well (the latter less likely) and so rocks rushes to god valley to not save the slaves but protect his home with the rest of his crew coming after pretty much overwhelming the god knights and the marines and Rodger says he will help if he can get set free or Rodger is like koby and just can’t stand people dying weather they are good or bad… I could see rodgers crew coming to try to rescue him as well and what if the prize for the tournament could have been kiados fruit and amongst all the chaos the rocks pirates swapped the fruit for a random baby (shanks) and rodgers crew just being pirates plundering happen to take that chest …just a thought.. or 2 😅
what if whitebeard got the quake fruit from god valley? like he was fighting garling while roger/garp were fighting rocks and BM was looking for kaido, as they are fighting whitebeard eats the fruit because he was hungry not noing it was a DF like many others do. garling scars him prior the quake and then WB eventually wins. moving on to rocks i think WB either turned on rocks or promised to stop him if he lost his way since i find it imposible for whitebeard to follow someone evil, rocks must have had good intentions but eventually went about them the wrong way.
Im in the camp that Xebec isnt a good guy and was just the lesser of two evils and was chasing the poneglpyhs(sengoku said broke many taboo and reading the poneglpyhs is one of the first if not only taboo introduced in the story)
Big mom probs said "big trouble" becuz roger pulled up to god valley first and garp was already tailing roger, so the rocks pirates had to reassess the situation and ultimately chose to go still
Something just occurred to me, what if the man marked by flames is the person who hid shanks in a treasure chest and he was a survivor from god valley, he could be a slave or ex celestial dragon the burn scar man seems to be a gatekeeper like shanks and probaly lurks in shanks territory on elbaf, their connection might run deep
Figarlan*D* Shanks
Okay, what if Shanks was the reward for the competition at God Valley?
It's better if every competitor had to stake something and figger Dad chosen shanksu
My theory on the God Valley Factions and what they wanted
Rocks: Kill all celestial dragons/gods knights. Not caring if they kill Slaves and Natives while they're at it
Garp: Protect the slaves and native people from Rocks, and (Begrudgingly) protect the Celestial dragons
Navy: Stop Roger and Rocks, protect the Celestials
Roger: Stop Rocks/Protect the innocent people (Slaves and Natives)
Dragon(?): Allow as few deaths as possible, and escape with the slaves
Gods Knights: Just have some fun doing some good old murdering of everyone (probably "allied" Rogers crew as well if they could get away with it)
I think this is when dragon (15-20) years ago, was still in the navy and when he saw what happen. That when he started the revolution!!!
Rocks' crew were the Strawhats' of the old generation? #1 guy in Rocks (Luffy) 3 other top level fighters Whitestache (Zoro), Big Mom (Jinbei), baby Kaido (Sanji), some scientist Ms Buckingham (Franky). A smallish crew, Roger had well over 10 people on his crew(s) if I'm remembering correctly, a lot of similarities.
I realy want to know whats poop to start the incident. Look, for some reason, even with the incident, Garling become the “champion of God Valey”. He become a champion before or after the incident? Maybe he wins by points (because he was so far ahead in points) and right before he execute one of major characters (like Kuma, Ginny, Ivan ), like in style fashion, someone like Roger interfere. After that everybody pounce and the party started. Man in so excited for this next chapter! Good job bro!
Honestly I never expected to see god valley in the manga other that some shadow and a few mention here and there. Like a lot of people I was expecting god valley to be a one piece movie at some point from what we know of it. Because it's just too big the rocks pirates, roger, garp, celestial dragon now we've got kuma and iva probably dragon as a young marine, saturn and possibly multiple devil fruit.
Oda is really playing with us because he can still skip god valley, just flash foward toward the end to see Iva and kuma having a devil fruit and escaping, everyone scaterring after rocks defeat.
But just the thought that we may see everything that happend there in the manga and in a year this animated. It's insane.
Oda is having fun like never before I'm sure after Wano we heard that the end will come soon, the final saga etc and for a time a believe it from what we learn on Egghead and what happend with Sabo but now. The man just throw off new stuff like the bucaneer, an purge/hunger game that happend every 3 years until god valley.
It could be a short flashback focus on Kuma and what lead to the revolutionnary and we might learn the rest later when we met shanks again..
What if... And here me out! This where Rayleigh helped Shaki, his wife. As well as, during this incident, among the treasures Roger pirates took, Rayleigh took Yoru! The blade of Mihawk, you see, mihawk is the son of shaki. Shanks and mMihawk share the same birthday! Rayleigh saved her and baby mihawk from Garp because she was a Rocks pirate. And Rayleigh is Mihawks stepfather and is the one who gave him Yoru! What would be a better treasure to offer up than a Famous, jeweled incrusted, Sword the looks like the symbol of the World Government!
1:03 nahhhhh an ad after sayin this is WILD
Brago, hear me out.
In the manga 1095 we saw in the 13th page some chests that look exactly like the one that contained Luffy's Devil Fruit. Those boxes probably contains some strong fruits that will be given to the winner of the human Hunt.
Rock'S D. Xebec, like BlackBeard, is looking for the strong devil fruit's and will attack the Island loking specially for the Hito Hito no Mi model Nika, this will force the marines to call a buster call and that will drag Garp, Son Goku and a young Dragon Marine to God Valley.
In the conflict some of Rock's members will eat or stole the fruits, that how Kaido obtained his, and probably how White Beard got his or Marco's fruit.
Dragon will see in first hand the horrors of the celestial Dragons, will stole one of the fruit, probably a mythical zoan or logia related to wind/wheater. There he will free the slaves and start the Revolutionary army.
The question that remains is how and why Roger will end up there.
This will advance the One Piece narrative tremendously and tie a bunch of loose storylines together
I think Garp may have gotten the Smoker treatment. I believe Garling did the clean up on God Valley and Garp got praised for it. Why? Well perhaps Garling's existence as a God's knight is something that's top secret only known by high ranking WG officials and celestial dragons
I think the Celestial dragons went to Godvalley but somehow ran into rocks pirates and when the celestials run into trouble they call a top tier usually an admiral maybe this time it was garp, but then Roger showed up, picking a fight too with rocks, garp and Roger work together to defeat rocks. And the battle makes the celestials run for safety which meant everyone who couldn't get away was left behind like Garling abandoning his son, shanks in a chest.
I think rocks pirates had godvalley as their “affiliate” island to get resources and when celestial dragons decided to do the hunting game over there rocks had no choice but to defend it. After that because of the chaos, marines which is garp and his fleet comes to the island to help the CD but roger on the other hand just nearby and just wanna see whats happening on the island he loves to fight strong people right? Remember when he fought oden and asking the marine for garp or sengoku to catch him he just love a good fight
At 11:50 my mind just started singing... : Baaaaby shanks tututurututuuu baby shanks tutu.... 👀🙃😅
BROOO what if the person who found out about the devil fruits was the Old Hag From Wano who was with Kaido. She already had the clone fruit so she could disguise herself at The Kingdom and See everything before it happend. She knew everything about Godvalley. I also think that big mom took the territories of Rocks Kaido Took The Legendary Fruit Whitebeard probably ate his fruit ON god valley to fight back against garling. While other pirates like Wang Zhi were on pirate island and John was Taking All The Celestial Dragons Good for himself ultimately leading in The Crew Mates Killing Him.
Love the dead pan sponsor read
It feels like they might make Shanks dad a kingslayer. Getting rid of the mad king... sounds familiar.
Maybe God Valley had a Ponigliph (or whatever you write that) and the marines said Roger "if you help me, you can have it.
We only heard xebec's side from WG's perspective. Also i find roger siding with the WG so intriguing. Why would roger side with the WG? Maybe xebec was actually a good guy. They said that the rocks pirates constantly fight with each other. The strawhats always fight too but not in a death match type of fight. Its more like a gag especially with zoro and sanji. And take note the former members of rocks pirates also have their dreams of a perfect world but they lost their way when rocks pirate fell. Take kaido and bigmom for example kaido knows about joyboy and at one point believed that he could be joyboy. And bigmom had this idea of a perfect world and they believe that they can only achieve this with projecting their strengths. Maybe this is the timeline where they failed to achieve their dreams thats why they turned bad just like what oda draw on the strawhat's timeline if something bad happens. But unlike bigmom and kaido, white beard didn't became bad because he achieved his dream to have a family.
1. Sengoku said roger happened to be there and that why garp worked with him and the celestial dragons to defeat rocks.
2. Sengoku also said the rocks crew was formed for one money making scheme.
I think rocks knew about the hunt and as soon as he found out the island it was on went there in order to complete there money making scheme do to all the prizes and treasure the celestial dragons bought with them. I think roger was on god valley to visit rogue and that why he was alone and without his crew.
I always assumed that the shadow figure talking to Kaido was Xebec. Otherwise if its Big mom or White beard, there would be no reason to hide them being a shadow.
or they were too lazy to animate it. it was coming from Big Moms voice so i suspect it is her
@@cloudi-.3709 In the anime its not big mom voice at all. And in the manga Oda drew the person as a silhouette, why would he do that if it was big mom? We already know what she looked like so why hide her?
It might not seem that serious but it actually disgusts me that we have fans with such tiny brains they come to the conclusion that the silhouette is big mom. It’s sad asf and I don’t see how u get to that conclusion without some type of mental disability. Or maybe just no reading comprehension or something
@@cloudi-.3709 In the anime, it's actually a man's voice that comes from the silhouette who calls out to Kaido during that scene.
Look in the chest! In the chest with shanks on the top left it’s the nika fruit
Roger spent his last four years of life with rouge remember shanks is 7 years younger than rouge. Roger left the crew at 56 meeting a 18 year old Rouge who in 5 years gives birth to ace and dies at age 23
Rouge elder sister was abducted by pirates or slave traders or sold by their own blood family to the celestials to pay a tribune exchange for the rest of the family of portgas d Rouge being able to live
However rouge was 3 years old when her older sister was 20 and sold into celestial captivity
She would later meet rocks d xebec at age 21 or 22 but after short years of being a slave she was freed by xebec during a celestial raid lead by rocks and at age 23 she became pregnant and at 24 she died giving birth to shanks who would in 1 year meet Roger after the fall Of Xebec who actually asked Roger and garp to look after 1 year old shanks (hence Roger telling garp he knows he will look after ace BECAUSE THEY DID THE SAME FOR SHANKS THE SON OF ROGERS MOST FORMIDABLE RIVAL)
If you Look at both Shanks
And Ace remove aces Freckles
And picture shanks with
Black hair they are practically
Identical twins but shanks
Is the elder cousin of
Ace due to their mothers
Being biological sibling
Sisters shanks mother is 17
Years older than portgas d
Rouge
Nico olvia was 20 years old when Roger found shanks and 12 years later died at age 32 when shanks was 13 DURING THE BUSTER CALL 2 YEARS LATER SHANKS IS
15 ATTENDING ROGERS EXECUTION
Nico olvia got pregnant around24 years of age after sailing 4 years with Roger she later was docked back in O'Hara to safely have robin then at age 27 (Go look at Robin's flashback enies lobby an looknat her at age 2) nico olvia is getting on a ship and there's a man saying "are you coming or not olvia" this man is in silhouette and crossing his arms in Roger's fashion and infamous pose However he isn't wearing a strawhat but a captains hat
Also the oro Jackson wasn't given to Roger until he sailed to water 7 at age 53 which is when he picked olvia prior to sailing to water 7 to get his new ship from tom
But in no doubt it's Roger because shanks is 8 years old in the O'Hara flashback and is currently wearing Roger's hat so when you look at the man in silhouette picking up olvia on a ship it undoubtedly is Roger because roger gave shanks his strawhat when shanks was 4 years of age
Nico olvia would spend 3 more years on the oro Jackson until Roger's departure (Go read 967 and 968 nico olvia is the woman with white hair sitting with her arms cross when Roger's comes out of his cabin also the Roger pirate hot tube spring pannel in the manga you can see nico olvia by shanks
Nico olvia is in 967 and 968
Also she was 30 years old when Roger left the crew at 56 then 2 years later
She dies from the buster call
The same would've happened to rouges island home land
Which is the Reason ROGER TURNED HIMSELF
IN ASIDE from his illness
Roger wanted to prevent another buster call
To keep the govt from another unnecessary
Slaughter because robin
His first child was fortunate to survive
The first one
But see Roger was still alive during the buster call
And he suspect both robin and
Olvia to be dead
Which is why he told
Garp
"HEY GARP YOU KNOW IVE GOT A BABY ON THE WAY....A BOY I BET"
because he suspect his first child daughter to be deceased due to the buster call
So Roger turned himself in to
Prevent the same from happening
To rouges land
Portgas d rouge is 12 years younger than nico olvia
So when the buster call happened Roger already spent 2 years with rouge who was 20 years old during the buster call
Also Whitebeards son was born
6 years after rogers death
LUFFY was born 5 years after
Rogers death
Zoro was born 3 years after
Rogers death
And Ace was born
1 years after rogers
DEATH
Garling's hair looks like the Celetrial Dragons hair but not rolled at the end.
Possible that goat d roger and garp might’ve done all the heavy lifting against rocks and Garling came in for the finisher, to get that recognition.
May we all Live Long Enough to reach Laugh Tale...
Rest in Peace to all those nakamas who has fallen beforehand.
I can visualize that 2 v 4 . How Roger and Garp beat Rocks crew.
the comparison in excitement from the intro into the ad🤣
You notice how much he peak of is split in the shanks flash back but the peak is full in the introduction of god valley that we got this chapter. I am believing down might have happen too it.
The fact that rock was this notorious pirate that fought the pirate king and probably one of the strongest characters in one piece and all we know about is who his crew was and his name is just ridiculous, oda is cooking something serious in that kitchen , rocks is not what they making us to believe , in my opinion , rocks was the previous king of pirates and owner of the gum gum fruit , rocks is also from kumas home place and in order to tame whitebeard big mom kaido etc etc you gotta have one hell of a bloodline cause those characters alone are freaking monsters and garp and roger and freaking monsters and he fought both of them so yea , rocks probably was himmy d butler for sure
I bet Garling and the Knights also helped Garp, Sengoku, & Roger no way I'm buying just Garp and Roger taking Rocks AND his entire crew (especially not a prime Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, & Whitebeard), the Garling definitely aided in this battle. And it makes sense that Rocks was more than likely like Blackbeard in that he wanted to take over the world, freeing the people of God Valley was just a formality or simply in line with his goal to get Devil Fruits to feed his crew just like Blackbeard did for his crew picking the best-suited fruits for them, I bet the "lick" was Rocks and the crew pulling up to steal Devil Fruits and the "TROUBLE" is the Navy pulling up to backup the Celestial Dragons during their hunt and they were either ambushed or Rocks knew and went anyway and got betrayed by his crew who according to them they hated him. I just don't buy Garp and Roger beating Rocks and his crew even with Garling in the frey.
Shanks family lineage is the equivalent of the Ackermans from AOT
It could be the tittle of king or champion was awarded to the winner of the tournament. So the original mistranslation can still apply. A king is also a champion of the people a representative of a country or organization.
The phrase king of the tournament. The undefeated winner can be referred to as king of god valley.
Garling literally putting Shanks as a Colatteral Bet makes too much sense to me
I'm pretty sure the WG destroyed God Valley like Lulusia Kingdom with the Mother Flame or Ancient Weapon that they have. Also, maybe God Valley was Rock D. Xebec's home island and he wanted to protect it while killing the Celestial Dragons, God Knights and potentially Gorosei on his step towards rivaliing Imu and becoming King of the World. It also possible that Dragon's mother could have been a Celestial Dragon but was exile or shunned for falling in love with Garp and having Dragon. Dragon seengi the CD killing slaves will push him to later abandon the marines causing his conflict with Akainu.
Celestial dragons are the middle school bullies with a ufc fighter as a bodyguard 😂😂
Ayo, Brago got that fire 🔥 he got that fire girl Holla at D Ace when you want that Oscar Meyer 😂😂😂 ☁️ 🌤 🌥 ⛅️
I am hoping that Divine Departure is Garling's move and Roger stole it like Zoro stole Foxfire Style. Swordsmen may have a tendency of doing this within One Piece if they find a certain swordplay interesting enough to conquer.
“You scared him it doesn’t matter when you did it” if we go by this squard is quite impressive lol
The more we learn of God Valley and Celestial Dragon. I'm on Rocks' side 💀
Firgarlan D Garling ?? seems like a possibility to me. that means hes Figarlan D Shanks.
I'm thinking this might be where we see why Crocodile wanted to kill Whitebeard and potentially the Ivankov secret about Crocodile
I think it's something like with Alabasta. Roger and the crew got involved with a a person from a country they had nothing to do with and fought a war for their friend lol
What if xebec was actuality the one ambushed at god valley then the rest of the crew got tipped off and garp and rodger stopped them trying to prevent a war with the world government? A war rodger knew needed joy boy's return
This opened the door on all kinds of lore
The only thing I can think of is Rocks was looking for new territory and probably heard that god valley had gold and a devil fruit tree!!! The celestial dragons probably had the same idea to claim god valley as their territory but Rocks already claimed it
Rocks was a good guy imo specially after seeing the kuma flashback hard to see some one actually defending the dragons
maybe GV was apart of Rocks territory, similar to Shanks & Elbaf, Wb & fishman island, Bm & totland or Kaido & Wano. so Rocks had to protect his turf type shit
White beard was shown in flash backs where he was talking to roger in the oden flashbacks and he didn’t have the scar yet if I remember correctly… so I think it still might be roger they probably had a final duel or something before roger finally turned himself in.
I never thought saturn might be bored and so he is so talkative and wants to take it slow but you are 100% right. I mean what the hell is he gonna do after this mission is over? Get back to mary geoise and do the same things he does every day. So why would he want to end these fleeting moments of excitement after so long? He is annoyed vegapunk is alive because he has to work or the marines will be destroyed by the pacifistas and the seraphim, he doesn't know they are captured, but at the same time inside he is like finally something new after years of boredom. Since he most likely is immortal as well imagine how bored he must be having everything a lot of people could dream off but nothing to do except making sure the wg remains in power. What is there to excite him in this world except something out of the ordinary?
In some way this is why kaido and big mom fell because after decades of being unmatched they didn't want to go all out because this was the first time in decades they actually had to try in a fight to win. So if they immediately won it would have been the same old for them.
Saturn taking his sweet time will give a chance of escaping to the strawhats, but to be fair he tried to kill Luffy ASAP.
@@novasoul99 yep but in saturn's case you kinda get that like the guy is bored like hell and now he has a chance to do something no one has ever done even amongst the gorosei which is to kill nika. It is a bit of mixed emotions. Saturn probably doesn't want to waste time there but at the same time where he will get another opportunity to have that kind of fun when he is sure he is gonna win? It is a mix of boredom with arrogance and a sense of superiority. He has his enemies where he wants so there really is no need to rush in his mind.
In the anime I think they made it a male voice for the "Big trouble Kaido.. we need to go to God Valley," part. And then Big Mom is next when she goes, "Where did that rat go?" Or something like that I think
I’m going around discord saying that Garling helped out, defeating Xebec, with Roger and Garp.
The only information right now is based on. He became champion of God Valley after a 10,000 points deduction. My guess is he did a sneaky final blow into Xebec granted him a significant figure in God Valley. Not just scarring white beard.
This parallels the dressrosa game with the prize being a devil fruit
If God Valley was still standing after Roger left maybe it didn't "dissappear " until whitebeard sunk it in his battle with Garling 🤷🏿♂️
i think its very important to note that those "events" take place every 3 years. there has to have been more of them and also maybe untill recently. were gonna have to go and search for events that could have been similair in nature. especially since the gorosei were talking about cleansing events recently. there has to be so much lore about events we know about that were not even aware of yet
I think after the fight in God valley it might have been discontinued
@@vamshibhat very much possible, seeing how garling is still the commander of the godknights and the complete island+event has been erased from history💪🏽👍🏼