Yeah, I’ve started using the IRST radar with the R27ET’s. IRST doesn’t ping the enemy’s RWS or get distorted by ground clutter so you can fly low, see where enemy aircrafts are and lob long range fox 1’s which also don’t ping RWS. This method works really well in grb and if they see the missile incoming, they’ll have to defend and 9/10 you’ll make it to the merge to dogfight which the Mig29G Molly whops everything that isn’t a gripen or su27
@@sooryan_1018I’ve had someone struggle to flare it when I fired it at 8km. Granted it was an F4S that was full after burner but still. Also if it’s close and rear aspect. It’s such a fast missile it gets to the target really fast
Most unrealistic part was how you climbed high and did not get immediately shot down by a FOX 3. That aside, considering only the german tree, imo the MiG-29G seems to be the better option if you tend to get into CQC/dogfighting a lot where the ICE seems to be more like a mid-long range missile bus. I'd still rather take the 29g any day until a better 4th gen or even 4.5 gen aircraft arrives.
The phantom does have a better radar and rwr also arh missiles, but for an experienced player with iq of 2 digits and knows how to dodge an arh missile, 29g is just a better option
Please kindly try not to defend these two Aircraft for Gaijin Both are not relatively competitive to play in current states Mig29G only has 60 flare chaff and only two ERs. ER is good but still limits your freedom to get cold, leading to a great disadvantage when using it Within visual F4F Ice has ARH which is good, but it only has a so-called 9L/I instead of a proper 9M as a top-tier jet, and it only got 90 flare chaff total, not even have to say of its 3rd Gen Airframe All pieces of evidence are that Gaijin is just trying to give as little love as they can to Germany only. NEITHER of them is useful. You can always get some kills if you roll enough times for the dice to go, but the point is does the plane worth its BR
with the new 20km upgrade to the hms radar on the 29g, this thing will slap in downtiers and stand a pretty good chance in uptiers. Speaking from experience.
I would take the F4 over the Mig29 in sim every time. It’s not even the fox3 that make the difference for me, it’s the radar and RWR. Compared to the F4’s, the Mig29’s radar and RWR are absolute garbage. You just have to play on a map with mountains you can hide in… so basically only Afghanistan (since gaijin forgets sim exists).
Well in all honesty I actually prefer the MIG 29g for the Germans, mainly due to it's good maneuverability and good dogfighting missiles, but in all honesty I don't really get much of an opportunity to use my good maneuverability and dogfighting missiles in matches, since a lot of people at top tier these days are more reliant on their missiles than their good dogfighting ability, but as for the f4f ice well at the end of the day it's a phantom that can carry aim 120s which okay yeah it's a newfangled missile but at the end of the day it's on an aircraft which is big slow at least from my experience from shooting down phantoms, at the end of the day gaijin should have just gave the MIG 29g r77 regardless if it carried it in real life or not, yeah you would have been able to only carry two but at least it gave you something
@@xBanditzTTV L take just say you are bad at the game. No 13.7 jet is beating the MiG 29g in a dogfight, maybe the grippen but even then it’s an easy win with r73’s. Drop br and learn some basic skills man it will make top tier seem so much easier. Or just learn the mechanics at top tier. regardless, complaining and crying won’t get you better. That cup of copeium isint gonna notch missles for you
@@thisbetterwork5 I hope this is sarcasm. Both F16 and F15 outturn the mig-29 in anything BUT scissor fighting - so as long as the enemy isnt retarted you wont win. the mig-29 is the worst top tier airframe that isnt some shitty upgraded 3th gen.
This tech tree is so good I decided to grind France
😂😂
actually same lol
mirage 3C is OP
META for Germany - play US/SR till Gaijin add Eurofighter.
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PROFIT!!1!
From my experience it is absolutely 100% the Mig 29G, I use 2 R27ET and because most people think they need to chaff it, it almost always hits
you are correct, I had a mig29 locking me from far so I thought it was radar missile until I died to the ET 😂
However those still using mixed countermeasures key can flare it off at distances, especially non-rear aspect shots
Yeah, I’ve started using the IRST radar with the R27ET’s. IRST doesn’t ping the enemy’s RWS or get distorted by ground clutter so you can fly low, see where enemy aircrafts are and lob long range fox 1’s which also don’t ping RWS. This method works really well in grb and if they see the missile incoming, they’ll have to defend and 9/10 you’ll make it to the merge to dogfight which the Mig29G Molly whops everything that isn’t a gripen or su27
I’ve found radar locking also helps because then they really think it’s a radar missile. And by the time they figure it out. It’s too late
@@sooryan_1018I’ve had someone struggle to flare it when I fired it at 8km. Granted it was an F4S that was full after burner but still.
Also if it’s close and rear aspect. It’s such a fast missile it gets to the target really fast
Neither, wait for the Eurofighter or the F18.
Or play something good like Bf-109 F4
Bros coping rn
Ah yea, 109 F4 vs F4 Phantom lmao
I would like too but the german ammo belts are broken. its always stock.
wydm f18 its not comming to germany lil broski
@@neega2137 i think ur forgetting the possibility of the swiss f18
Most unrealistic part was how you climbed high and did not get immediately shot down by a FOX 3.
That aside, considering only the german tree, imo the MiG-29G seems to be the better option if you tend to get into CQC/dogfighting a lot where the ICE seems to be more like a mid-long range missile bus.
I'd still rather take the 29g any day until a better 4th gen or even 4.5 gen aircraft arrives.
The phantom does have a better radar and rwr also arh missiles, but for an experienced player with iq of 2 digits and knows how to dodge an arh missile, 29g is just a better option
Please kindly try not to defend these two Aircraft for Gaijin
Both are not relatively competitive to play in current states
Mig29G only has 60 flare chaff and only two ERs. ER is good but still limits your freedom to get cold, leading to a great disadvantage when using it Within visual
F4F Ice has ARH which is good, but it only has a so-called 9L/I instead of a proper 9M as a top-tier jet, and it only got 90 flare chaff total, not even have to say of its 3rd Gen Airframe
All pieces of evidence are that Gaijin is just trying to give as little love as they can to Germany only.
NEITHER of them is useful.
You can always get some kills if you roll enough times for the dice to go, but the point is does the plane worth its BR
with the new 20km upgrade to the hms radar on the 29g, this thing will slap in downtiers and stand a pretty good chance in uptiers. Speaking from experience.
The correct answer as a lvl 100 marshal is He 100 to bully the new players
mig 29 G will pop off when it is 13.0 and all the other top tier planes are 13.7 imo
No, it did not :(
I have to say that the F-4F ICE surprised me after I finished a simulator battle with 19 enemy kills.
@@jagerctm3524 19?
@@kingzzp613 Yes, in simulator battles you can make many kills and points.
@@jagerctm3524 never played sim so makes sense
F-4f ice gets matched up against USA so usually get easy kills on people who think F-18 radar ping is friendly haha
I would take the F4 over the Mig29 in sim every time. It’s not even the fox3 that make the difference for me, it’s the radar and RWR. Compared to the F4’s, the Mig29’s radar and RWR are absolute garbage.
You just have to play on a map with mountains you can hide in… so basically only Afghanistan (since gaijin forgets sim exists).
Well in all honesty I actually prefer the MIG 29g for the Germans, mainly due to it's good maneuverability and good dogfighting missiles, but in all honesty I don't really get much of an opportunity to use my good maneuverability and dogfighting missiles in matches, since a lot of people at top tier these days are more reliant on their missiles than their good dogfighting ability, but as for the f4f ice well at the end of the day it's a phantom that can carry aim 120s which okay yeah it's a newfangled missile but at the end of the day it's on an aircraft which is big slow at least from my experience from shooting down phantoms, at the end of the day gaijin should have just gave the MIG 29g r77 regardless if it carried it in real life or not, yeah you would have been able to only carry two but at least it gave you something
Correct answer is MiG 29 9.12A
100% facts, r27er at 12.0 is crazy
Me personally, always rock 2 people with the r27er cuz mach 6 go brrrr. Also mig 29g is worth to be top tier.
MiG 29g has no business in top tier anymore. Fox 3 fodder now
@@xBanditzTTV L take just say you are bad at the game. No 13.7 jet is beating the MiG 29g in a dogfight, maybe the grippen but even then it’s an easy win with r73’s. Drop br and learn some basic skills man it will make top tier seem so much easier. Or just learn the mechanics at top tier. regardless, complaining and crying won’t get you better. That cup of copeium isint gonna notch missles for you
@@thisbetterwork5f16c gripen and f15 will slam the 29G in a dogfight, r73s are dummy easy to flare
@@luger4809 lmao to thinking a f15 can beat a 29 in a dogfight
@@thisbetterwork5 I hope this is sarcasm.
Both F16 and F15 outturn the mig-29 in anything BUT scissor fighting - so as long as the enemy isnt retarted you wont win.
the mig-29 is the worst top tier airframe that isnt some shitty upgraded 3th gen.
@@merf5549 I’ll give you that maybe everybody I face is just ass but there you go you admitted it can and you better bet I will make it happen
Matt can u do a video about the derby?
It hot buffed last latch now it doesnt loft too much so it much better at bvr
Are you going to make a video on the new BR changes Mat?
Meta this Meta that bla bla bla...
neither, f-15C or F-16C is the Meta Rn
kkkkkkkkkkk really?
Yeah but they are not German deadass
Read the title of video again 🤦♂️
Erm
Gripen as well
This is bullshit
why
Because we can’t dogfight with the new fox 3s
@@RaodyOPS yeah they are bvr missiles are you oopid
@@RaodyOPS This is how the new generation fighter jets are like. BVR is always ahead of Dogfight.
@@2goober4u * can’t dogfight with the f4f
First
F4F ICE for Ground Battles is way better. For Air Battles... hm. Mig 29G suffers. F4F is mediocre. Go play F15C.