Is British ATC the BEST in the world?
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- It's so refreshing and disarming to come across such a friendly air traffic controller. Amanda and I have been talking online for some years, but we've never spoken on the airwaves together, until now!
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Hi Jon, I'm an ATPL student at one of 'the big schools' and I feel your CAA pain; my exam nerves kicked in just seeing you drive up to the CAA's centre! Best of luck with your retake (me and you both!) and future exams, congratulations for your two passes and happy flying!
Thank you. Do you have some more to do?
@@TheFlyingReporter I do - you mentioned March which also has my next exam week, so I'll come and say hello if I spot you!
Do they only run the exams once a month there or something?
I’m not sure of the schedule. But I think it’s more than once a month.
Hi Jon great video and content as always, as one of my examiners put it: what is important is that there is always progress and new skills are added! I have no doubts: You are going to make it with high marks!!
Poppy is a DOLL !!!! - Excellent content Jon. - Keep up the great work ... and Thank you for sharing !!
i watch citationmax and he recently flew into the uk, he flies his dad around thd US in a huge jet, in his fiest flight across the pond and onto the uk to land at stansted his word where ‘uk atc is very efficient, far more so than in the us.”
To answer your headline question, the answer is no. One only has to spend a little time in France to appreciate the difference in ATC ethos (France: we're here to help; UK: we're here to control). Though there are many friendly, cheerful and willing UK controllers.
We are living through a time of great peril for GA and particularly, GA friendly airfields, so thank goodness for the likes of Mr Hall. I dough my cap to him.
Great episode Jon, with an eclectic mix of topics somehow slotted together. Bravo. Best of luck with the remaining exams.
I fly in the US. The controllers are great here. Very helpful and accommodating.
Driving into the car park at 0:26 gave me flashbacks to exam morning nerves!
I know what you mean
Quality content and I believe your best yet. Keep up the good work, so appreciated.
Thank you Alan. Very kind of you to say so.
Your videos are such a great insight to the activity of GA flying. Thank you for what you do!
Thanks for watching Jack.
Love this Jon, will deffo pop upto Wolverhampton soon. Well done on the exams, I agree totally about the Human Factors exam.
Thank you Terry
Hello! Love your channel! It's great seeing you here! 😊 Wasn't this a wonderful video?
@@nathanwildthorn6919 cheers Nathan, I love this channel too and I am proud to say Jon is a friend.
Hello Jon, great video, commiserations on failing the human performance exam first time around.
Great to see Halfpenny Green airfield from a GA approach, it is very familiar territory to me flying my paramotor in the vicinity. I am always in contact with the tower for traffic awareness and safety. Callsign 'Paramotor 36 Quebec Uniform' as paramotoring is unregistered in the UK, so I use my lapsed French callsign.
I have flown from and returned to the airfield on 14 occasions some years back. The large wooded area at 16:15 is commonly called 'The Million' due to the very large number of trees and provides a good landmark.
Good luck with the rest of your exams.
Ah, Halfpenny Green! Forever etched in my memory, as it was my destination airfield for my first qualifying cross country from Gloucester. Also, at 11:45 in your piece, I saw the estate where we had our first house just half a mile from the airport, I quite enjoyed the smell of jet fuel on a summer's night!
Well done on the exams 👏 I’m currently doing ATPl, passed instruments, HPL but failed met , so frustrating , I’m not a nervous person however the strictness and formality’s on the day at the test centre really got to me !!looks like I was feeling the same as you. I took a full week off after which has helped reset and focus, I’m back on track studying the next module and the resit !
Sounds like a good plan. I have taken a bit of a break, but need to get going again soon.
What a delightful exchange.
Watching this video during a short break from studying for the EASA ATPL Principles of Flight exam-I can relate to the struggle!
Great video,nice to see familiar places to me,near Damyns Hall aerodrome and Luton zone transit, just days before we did same crossing with my instructor.
Fantastic video as always.
Hi Jon. I sat my atpl exams in 2016. I only scraped through HPL (78%). Failed Gnav first go. Been flying the 737 commercially since 2018. We’ve all been there!
That's comforting to know, thank you!
Another first class video Jon! Unlucky on your clean sweep... I'm sure you'll pass next time 🤞🏻
How amazing to see so much love going into a GA airfield. Well done the new owner 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Kevin. It makes a real change to see the investment.
Very nippy this morning as well, but nice weather for my first solo at Blackbushe! I felt the nerves in the first 3 PPL exams, so god only knows how stressful yours were. I wish you all the best with your ongoing training 😊
Congratulations on the solo! Wishing you the best of luck for the rest of your studies/training.
@ Thanks Jon, it’s definitely a thrill to be up there on my own, if a bit scary! Hopefully I’ll see you around sometime.
This was a very delightful video! Good show! 😃 It was entertaining, it was informative and a joy to watch. Thank you! 😊
Thanks for watching Nathan.
I’m based at Luton and always hear Amanda…nice to finally put a face/name to a voice haha
Sorry to hear about your HP fail…I remember doing it. Whenever Eustachian Tube was a possible answer, that’s what I’d put haha
New opening is now Wednesday 12th Feb. At time of writing the website is incorrect by saying 7th but NOTAMs are up to date. Me and the prop both looking forward to some smooth surfaces!
I visited Halfpenny Green while you were there Jon, but didn’t get to say hello, sadly! The new eatery is spot on! One thing we did see while we were there, and maybe someone from the airfield can answer - what’s with the propellor engine mounted up on a really high stand, between the hangars?! Never seen anything like that, and would assume it would just pile drive into the ground if started!!
I seem to remember them telling me they are doing some engine testing there. I didn't see it myself while there.
Its not about failing the exam, its about what you do next. Thanks for sharing and good luck!
I'm overdue to do some cross country flying and have been thinking about where I should go. This looks like a great candidate for a visit.
Bloody hell they didn’t even have that HF stuff when I did mine… I must be really dangerous! Your videos just get better and better . Many thanks. Steve.
Thanks Steve.
Unlucky about the HPL result but the difference was only one question so I’m sure you’ll be fine on the resit, congrats on the other two subjects over 90% is really good. Looking forward to hearing how the next exam sitting goes. Good Luck
Thanks Oscar. I've just put them back to April actually, as there's a lot going on this month.
Was sat next to an air traffic controller who works at easy Midlands Airport on a flight last week. Very interesting chat.
I grew up in the early 60s very near to Halfpenny Green - used to cycle up there, go "newting" in the storage ponds and play in an abandoned Anson parked at the back. Had to keep an eye out for the scary security guy though!
Sounds like a great way to spend your childhood.
Congratulations on your exams. Rooting for you to pass them all. Good luck.
Class D in Australia is the same as the U.S. abbreviated clearances. If they acknowledge you can enter. Normally I get flight following which makes life easier since I will get continuous service early on and like the U.S. you just get swapped between frequencies.
Your exam experience with all the proper pilots matches my experience doing IFR. Was a 3 hour single exam here and was one of the more nerve wracking exams I did. When I hit the submit button and saw I passed I was definitely relieved (very close to fail) so was trying not to annoy other exam takers. I hate human performance questions it’s very abstract.
Looking forward for the re-sit - NOT!
I went through the CBIR process in 2019. Good luck with the rest of the journey. My only word of caution on the TK is that the Flight Planning and Monitoring exam is very tight on time. You do more 'questions per minute' than ATPL students and it was the only exam I failed to have time to check answers.
Yes - I've heard this. So not looking forward to that beauty.
In my opinion, yes - most are fantastic. Having said that, NATS overflight charges are some of the highest in Europe, so I’d expect it.
Hey John, great content. No worries about the HF exams - it is a ‘woolly’ subject when I did my ATPL exams I did not enjoy this one. All the very best :)
I suppose it could be good for some - personally I'm finding it quite hard.
hi jon, im currently on an integrated atpl program, currently working towards my cpl. the fails are definitely annoying and get to you, but being on 71% it is quite close and nothing to beat yourself up over. I found that HPL is one of those subjects where you just have to kind of learn the answers to the questions on the bank. Realistically, how many pilots are going to be able to tell you the size of a nasal spray droplet? Keep up the work and you'll smash it, your other two results are impressive! well done
Thanks Sam.
Great video!
Great service at Halfpenny Green. We pretty much took over the cafe last year for a large Bulldog and Chipmunk formation. Which I think they put on their own social media. 😊
It's a true GA place.
About the only time you would be in class D in the USA is when you are landing or taking off. Class D is normally only up to 2500 feet AGL. So at cruise you would not be in D airspace, even directly overhead.
Shame that you missed the HP exam, better luck next time!
I remember thinking it was super woolly through my Basic ATC course, but once I got my head around it the subject made a lot more sense, and you realise just how much human performance/factors can help close a lot of the holes in the swiss cheese.
Oh yes, I get it. It really makes you think about those human errors, and once you've studied it, it's all obvious. I just find some of the detail difficult to grasp.
Two questions related to cold weather ops: what type of fluid are using to de-ice the wings and how do you manage pre-heat for the engine?
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UK is generally considered to have a very safe airspace. Well deserved investment to Wolverhampton
CAA exams are just a hurdle and the first attempt should just be seen as a ranging shot, when I did my ATPL my engineering license let me off the examinations that my engineering license covered. I have no doubt I would have struggled with hydraulics as the CAA exams seemed to be based on the DC -3. At the time I had the CRS authorisation on the B737, BAe 1-11 & A320.
You should see the ATC controllers from JfK. They are not friendly or nice!
Awesome 😎😎😎😎😎😎 video
I spent many years in a professional capacity being controlled by Ms R, but I never once said her name over the air, in the same way I wouldn’t expect to hear my name. Please don’t do that again Jon, - I hear it a lot, even fellow professionals do it - and it makes me cringe every time. She is fab tho… ❤
Love your videos
Hopefully I get to fly to this airport during my hour building in the next couple of weeks ✅🙏🫡
With it's fresh new runways.
Having taken a few of these I found little correlation between the formality of the candidates dress and the outcome of the exam. The relationship between number of epaulette bars and exam success is probably inverse 😁
Haha. I think they train those professional pilots well. So they probably do allright.
It really matters to be able to speak in your maternal language.
I may have missed something, but are you saying that in the US and there was a Luton equivalent you could just barrel across the zone as you feel like? Or would they make it a higher class of airspace?
Last thing you need is an A320 appearing in your windscreen 😬
I think C and D airspace is just two way communication. Bravo requires a clearance.
Towered airports in the US are either Class D, C or B. Class B being the largest airports e.g SFO, DEN, SLC, LAX etc. An airport the size of Luton would probably be Class C. For Class D and C two-way radio communication is sufficient which means controller has to acknowledge your callsign. If they don’t want you in the airspace then they just respond with “aircraft calling….” which does not constitute two-way radio communication. Class B requires a specific clearance. Many Class B airports have specific VFR transition routes.
Why did you change the thumbnail?
Is Halfpenny Green flexwing friendly ?
Check out 18:14, there's a shifty in the background so that's a start 👍
Also noted that Hadair microlight school operates from there; both 3 axis and weight shift. Landing fees currently £10 under 600kg when flights resume.
Yes, definitely! Come on down and say hi. 🙂
I'm currently studying for my EASA PPL, finding the Nav. The tough one finding that buddy up with someone else is great for studying. I look forward to putting these exams behind me loving your content
Thanks. good luck with the rest of your studies.
If you haven’t failed at least one you haven’t done it for real! Well done! 😊
Haha. I've heard that!
I don't know what you mean! All controllers are friendly aren't they!?
Of course they are!
A the CAA battleship…..how I loved my 90s visits for BCPL, perf, ATPL etc….funniest exam being the audio morse test , do they still do that ?
No. I don't think we have to learn the morse any more! I'll let you know when I've gone through the communications theory.
@ , does your aircraft system automatically identify navaids ?
Not currently. But I do have a reasonable grasp of Morse.
Not surprised you changed the title and thumbnail..............
Probably not for the reason you suspect though.
is the a320 winglet still there?
At the CAA? I can't say I noticed.
@ when i did atpls there, you’d go down the right side and wait. if you look further back,i think close to the windsock, you’ll see the winglet. i believe it’s an actual winglet from the neo, you see it front on so it appears thin. take another look next time you go ! :)
Hey Amanda! How's Chewy? 😁
Hi Jon, what camera are you using for this handheld stuff? Looks great!
I was using a Sony FX30 in this shoot.
@@TheFlyingReporter Ah, I thought it might be something like that. Looks sharp. Nice.
Never understood why pilots were allowed calculators on their exams. Engineering exams you're only allowed a pen. And I'm much more likely to have a calculator in my pocket than a pilot...
Your job isn’t several 1000ft in the air while trying to maintain altitude heading stay out of certain airspace’s , avoid traffic among other things. So having a calculator can greatly reduce workload and time and possible errors especially if the plane you are flying doesn’t have autopilot or equipment that can make most of the calculations you need 😂
None of us is any good at Maths!
@@TheFlyingReporter yah that too 🤣🤣
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HPL is the most subjective subject out of all, I hate it the most and in my personal opinion it should be kicked out from syllabus or simplified at least
Much of it is useful stuff. I just find it a difficult one to get right.
😅you mean… you still have to take in a whizz wheel in this day and age ?
Yup!
Human performance is a pain even in ATPLs. Its full of complete fluff.
Haha. It does seem a little like that yes - some useful stuff too though.
Of course the USA does properly not follow ICAO either, so it's the USA that is out of step with the rest of the world when it comes to CAS.
72% a fail? In school that would be a pass. And why do you have to learn about psychology for an IFR rating? Anyway which you more luck for the second attempt!
Thank you.
Never heard of her
She's legendary in these parts.