Correction : Karina isn't the lead dancer. She is the main dancer. And if you felt offended by the rankings then i'm really sorry. I didn't mean to put anyone down and these types of videos are just made for fun so don't take it seriously. You are free to disagree in the comments. Have a nice day
@@minchoo1984 Come on she just debuted and she's the group's Maknae. Have you heard her singing voice on her official reveal? Her vocal tone reminds me of BADA to be honest, and that says a lot.
@@ooooo- I am myself is a wiz*one and i agree that they both have great voices , but chill aespa winter is still a rookie you know and aespa even herself not reveal all their potency in singing dancing or rapping yet so we don't even know how far they can be
@@yy_367 but she’s not better than them like it’s a proven fact if we do aespa vs izone yuri is better than ning ning and chaewon and eunbi are better than winter. while yena chaeyeon and yujin are better than karina, and gisselle
@@ooooo- izone debuted more than 2 years ago aespa are a 2 month old group when aespa is 2 years old I’m wuite sure that winter will be better than eunbi and Chaewon
Yup, I think of that too but if ur amaze with winter's vocals, NING NING will exceed ur expectations... she's absolutely GREAT and the best VOCALIST in 4th Gen.
@@riazerimar7759 i know ningning is the great vocalist.we already know that since her predebut so im not surprised if she can hit the highnotes or stable.im just so surprised by winter because she can actually sing because I don’t expect her to be amazing like this.anyway both of them is amazing vocalist but not to be biasing i prefer winter vocals more but i also like ningning vocals.in conclusion aespa vocals line is the best and talented in 4th gen
@@bad_kmj2467 you know ning ning vocal is powerful also her voice is powerful(most of the times).but winter has a good vocal skill with a pleasent and fine and also soft with unique voice..this is why winter vocal seems more pleasent for you.i know what are you saying..its good that they complete each other : powerful vocal + soft with unique tone vocal..just like taeyeon and jessica (snsd)
@@faezesh1235 ikr.both of them are so talented.we’re yet to hear ningning singing live at the moment but we all know she is already the great vocalist than winter that’s why she is the main vocalist but winter vocals is so soothing and mesmerising means we can hear it everytime
the way I already knew ningning and winter gonna be number 1 and 2, i mean aespa vocal is no joke, giselle being a member of choir for 4 years, and karina participated in a lot of singing contest and performance pre debut.. i can say that aespa is one of the most vocally intersting group in 4th gen
I was waiting for a 4th gen gg with strong vocals, I personally like Bvndit and their vocal tones are really interesting but something about aespa is really special... I think the only group who can compare to them vocally is Purple Kiss, can't wait to see more of them all.
@@gabrielzzz2492 main vocalist is the best vocalist in the group, and lead vocalist is the second best. e.g.: seulgi (lead) and wendy (main), nayeon/jeongyeon (lead) and jihyo (main), jisoo (lead) and rosé (main)
@@fantwice9385 winter is definitely a main vocal material for sure. but still need another improvement to reach wendy's level obviously. yes, giselle can pass as a main vocal in other group BUT i NEVER mention any other groups' name here. also i NEVER mention her can pass as a main vocal in ALL other groups. calm the fuck down, dude lols
@@AnaS-xv8yb yeah, and I think jyp hasn't invested much on honing their vocals. it's basically just itzy with their natural vocal talents and previously honed talents from other shows. i do hope, like the video says, they train them more in that aspect.
@@repliesthendisappears2982 isn't that classic JYP move tho, prioritizing dance... Both Twice and Itzy have good singers but I feel like they try too hard with their choreos.. but I'd say they do have the best dancers.
@@yejin666 bitch first off all blackpink outsold itzy literally and second THEY LIKES AESPA so yeah and third relax that attitude of a bitch and last aespa doing pretty good for a debut
Yup. After forever. It’s clear that Aespa should get the 1st to 4th place. Ningning at 1st, Winter 2nd, and I’ll switch Karina to 3rd and Giselle at 4th since she has more range.
@@jihyotwice5056 but yea ofc Ningning she doesn't sound like a rookie she truly possesses the powerful voice of a Disney princess she's the powerhouse vocalist of 4th gen.
I honestly think Karina can still rank higher if she'll be able to show her singing more. Tbh, I really like her tone :( Hoping for vocalist karina next comeback
@@bad_kmj2467 it didn't show much of her skill in singing tho, with those lines. but yes, i'm really really hoping for rapper kariselle in the next cb!
Personally, I feel like aespa knows technique more than ITZY because they are trained with SM (so they're not only idols or performers, they are singers). But with ITZY, I do think that JYP trains them to become straight up idols or performers (which is nothing bad at all tho)
@@clairejanzen640 bruh, im not saying that they are not an all rounded idols, but i was saying that TECHNIQUE WISE, aespa is better since SM is known for their vocal training. Thats why i said ITZY is a great performers
It doesn't matter which company you debut under , they should all be trained for becoming idols . Sm looks at all aspects while jyp focuses on dance like look at twice , they're really good dancers. But their vocals are pretty bad ngl.
@HEBAH BEWAR SAADIQ you can disagree with me but it'll still remain as a fact . Twice needs to be trained vocally but instead of that they're given comeback very often which is straining their voices . See im not hating . This is a constructive criticism. And I think jeongyeon is the best of all of them vocally because her voice is always stable and she doesn't sound like she's straining it.
@HEBAH BEWAR SAADIQ yes I do listen to their songs but what's the point of having good vocalists and good songs if you can't sing it live ? ( btw get loud and firework are my favorite bsides)
@@abhaysuresh7375 stay pressed?? Sorry but did you mean by that im an itzy hater? No, lmao. This is only my opinion. I love itzy as well as aespa. But in term of vocal, i think aespa is better (no offense please) especially the main vocal ones. My comment also supposed to be a compliment for ningning. So sorry if i offended you.
We can’t agree no more when it comes to vocal SM’s idol is the winner but i think both group aespa and itzy have their own specialities such as itzy more to dance and aespa is their vocal ability.
thats not true? Chen and Baekhyun are not shouty.. also Chen and Baekhyun has PROPER support, not like NingNing who is still kinda inconsistent.. all still great tho?
@@true-mrremoved656 I think they meant it as the main vocal positions in their groups. Where both are just equally amazing at their vocal techniques and high notes. And don't you forget that at the start, both Chen and Baekhyun were a bit unstable in their live performances as well. They quickly improved and I'm sure NingNing will too.
After aespa released more content, as of now in terms of vocals it’s definitely: Ningning > Winter > Karina > Lia > Giselle > Yeji > Chaeryeong > Yuna > Ryujin All aespa members can apparently support which is rare for a kpop group. imo, Lia could probably go up Winter’s level if she had SM training. -- Update! After DCT, I think it might be Giselle > Lia now. Damn aespa 💀
Lia sings better than karina for sure tho , I don't see how that ranking is fair . Yeji is debatable because her voice isn't really unique but it still sounds better than Giselle.
the thing that I noticed as 2nd gen stan also is that, JYP tends to trained their artists without much of special technique, they just need to sound unique and nasally (in the good way) for their song to be known or separated, cus as we know from miss a and wonder girls, they’re not strong in vocal departments, but their voices is so unique that make them stand out in most of kpop groups, but eventually can affect the idols voice in the future esp. momo and im afraid yeji too, yeji strained her vocals so many many times, that im afraid that her vocal get damaged so badly, in SM case, they exactly know what they trained for their artists, they’re not changing their artists vocal, they’re tend to advance their artists vocal with learning how to really sing with techniques, some idols in SM already gifted with vocals such as baekhyun, d.o, wendy, seulgi, taeyeon, luna, ningning, winter
Jyp ent doesn't really care for vocal delivery, they usually throws one or two good enough singers and the rest are traines to be performers. Its a formula that works but I'm scared for itzy its like they want to kilk as much as they can out of them before they become vocally strained which is sad. On the flip end i want aespa to also try challenging concepts (though black mamba was fire)
For SM, they're not changing their artist's vocal "identity". I agree with this. But at the same time, they also trained them to blend their vocal with other members when they have to sing together.
@@mulenga9531 yes, this is what im afraid, lia and yeji can be a really good vocalist, it just jyp not giving them the right part of the song what i mean is that, their vocal is not match with higher note that jyp gaave to them,but still jyp wants them to hit the high note and causing them to strained their voices bcs their not properly trained in vocals with techniques and support which is can damage their vocals in the long term..
I think karina will be high in the future because karina has a position of a vocalist just like joy or rv while giselle doesn’t (even tho giselle is really good) it just proves karina is good and black mamba didn’t really showcase anything in terms of her vocals so let just wait
Aespa seems not to play this time... Karina, the leader, with main dancer title, but still slay with those vocals and rap. Giselle, the main rapper, but with 4 years experience in choir and big potential in vocal, dont forget her dance and expression really good tho, with short training period. Winter, not only the visual, but ace of the group with her vocal and dance ability like main dancer and main vocal material. And NingNing, obviously gonna be the best 4th gen idol main vocal,but not only that her dancing totally on point and its very crazy she have interest to rap😍 Even tho only 4 girls make it after 6 years, since RV debut... but the quality itself gonna be so great. All member can be all rounder and I hope SM not gonna ignore them just like that.
I've been training in vocal since 5yrs old. I hv lots of knowledge in vocals. I have very high standards when it comes to it. I don't see many ppl talk about "singing flavour" . And I prefer all aespa vocals instead of itzy. Lia can pass my standard but yeji can't. She's very nasally n emotionless. Lia's pretty good actually but I can't see her style. Idk of its just me who can't find it, but I feel like she's just there to sing, there's no flavour. Becuz she hv an advantage which is her natural beautiful tone and she also hv great emotion so I give her a pass. No hate tho I really like her. But all aespa members hv a flavour n that's why all of them(tone, flavour n technique wise)r better then itzy (For those who r confused of what is "singing style" n how to identify it. It can be how u pronounce words, how u sing with ur breath, add vibration etc. Its how u make a song "yours" by putting ur own flavours in it. Rose from bp is a great example of this. Notice how she sings with lots of vibration n "cracking" her voice purposely at every end. It sounds like she's screaming but at the very best way. And also taemin, he add flavours by singing with lots of breath in his sound. It sounds like he's out of breath in a sexy way. So yah, if u hv any questions about this feel free to ask in the comments I would luv to help.)(also singing style is something u purposely do to exaurate ur singing. While singing tone is just the sound of ur voice )
Agreed with you so much. Lia has good tone color but I think she'll dominate if somebody outside jyp had taught her proper vocal training. Yeji is "stable" but I can't deny the fact that she sounds monotonous all the time. I think this is a hard to swallow facts for a lot of midzys like me. Jyp really needs to hire good vocal trainers.
@@crymea__river yes that's right. No doubt sm vocal trainers r better. And also I think jyp focus more on dancing this time. That's why 4 out of 5 girls hv dance positions.
@@fiona5474 I really hate this actually. That's pity, a lot of kpop agencies doesn't give proper vocal training. . They tend to focus on dancing more, but forgetting the vocal. They're idols but they're still singers too. I'm sure those idols (outside SM) want to receive proper vocal training as well. But there's only few small companies focusing on vocal more.
Im glad SM new gg rly has amazing vocals as well. And I hope SM manage them well. Yes visual, dance etc is important.. But if they want to get higher... Singing and rapping skill should be the main focus~ SM has great songs, great choreo, high budget.. all they need to do now is treating aespa as "artist" not only as "idols"~~
Ningning has been a singer predebut and only practice singing indoors while training at SM. It will take her a while to master how to divide her energy while singing and dancing at the same time but she will get there! NCT dream vocalists had the same struggles as well at first but can now sing flawlessly while dancing difficult choreography. Ningning will grow into one of the best vocalists SM has ever put out in the likes of BOA, Bada, Taeyeon, Luna and Wendy.
I really love Lia's tone, I actually prefer r&b more than pop and I hope I can hear her sing more r&b song in the future. On the other hand, NingNing have a powerful voice and her voice actually suit in disney osts. All members of aespa are definitely a good vocalists. I like both Chaeryoung and Yuna but they sound too nasal for me.
@@yourfuture5307 Yeji strained a lot tho, but she's pretty stable. I think Lia's tone is still better but Yeji have better techniques, being a good singer isn't all about high notes.
@@yourfuture5307 not really... but I respect your opinion, I personally think Lia's better but she should improve her stability and techniques while dancing. We have different preferences and it's fine, both are good, I just personally prefer Lia's vocal. :>
aespa for sure, knowing that they're from SM, they definitely have powerful vocals. even thw rappers can easily be the lead/main vocalists in other groups outside SM.
Now that aespa will have a ballad release I can’t wait to see karina and Giselle’s vocals on the track. The song is a remake of yoo young Jin “forever” it’s very beautiful and has some pretty high notes and runs and btw this is the man that knetz said is winter’s dad because her vocals are so similar to his. Winter will definitely shine on this track and so will ningning but we wanna see rap line sing. Song is out on feb 5th btw
@@livelaughlia3756 yeah that heavy auto tuned stuff, that itzy fans think is good enough to outsing aespa? Itzy have proven they’re at least better than twice, but they aren’t even close with aespa 😊
You simply cant compare them knowing that aespa only have 1 song, but the predebut of NINGNING says it all. Loud and clear Ningning slays i dont know about the other
I think ningning still shy about her vocal, she need to be confident but yeah you know she is maknae, still young and was legal at this year so i think that's why she still shy about her amazing vocals
Honestly I think Karina and Giselle have better vocals then Yeji. They have better technic, wider ranges and they can both convey more emotion when singing. That's something that Yeji lacks as a lead vocalist.
itzy is good but aespa's vocal is just on another level. karina and giselle could easily become a lead vocal in another group.. even aespa only have one song we can already tell that there is no vocal hole in aespa. that's how powerful their vocal are
I tgink itzy rap is more chant than rap bith groups newd to grow in this area, but they definitely dominate in dance. Vocals i mean its SM what do you expect
@@marsyabatrisyia4968 don't judge so fast aespa we only saw they vocals first we don't know anything about rap yet so better do not judge because I know giselle is a good rapper look at her teaser but sm didnt let her rap in their debut song.
Honestly, Giselle and Karina's vocals can easily surpass yeji's vocals. Yeji's vocal is powerful but it doesn't have it's own color. She's like screaming everytime she sings.
FACT: SM ent have the best vocal in the industry. There is no denying about that. So to summarize this video without comparing individual artists is read the FACT above this statement.
Karina is way better than yuna and has more technique than Ryujin for sureeee and winter is better than yuna also, yuna has great stage presence though!
We can all agree that AESPA's vocals is on a other level, however when it come to dancing and performance. You better need to brace yourselves for ITZY's gonna kill it with complexity and synchronization.
How is JYP ent have best dancers when they only have Momo as a promising dancer while SM ent have U-know, Eunhyuk, BoA, Hyoyeon, Taemin, Kai, Lay, Seulgi, Ten, Taeyong, Jisung, Shotaro, etc. and YG have Taeyang, Minzy & Lisa.
I think we should start to rethink this scenario on which company owns best dancers, singers, rappers because you also need to think about male and female groups that master in different areas. This opinion shows limitations.
Im a MIDZY and a MY, but JYP should be ashamed that a lead vocalist from another group is better than his main vocalist. Anyways, stan Aespa and Itzy for clear skin.
Not at y'all degrading Ningning's vocal capability when she has tons of videos on RUclips of her singing in a Chinese show at a very young age. If your intentions are to just degrade her, might as well do some research first about her.
SM's power is harmonization ✨. They have this often subtle back vocal that makes their songs sound good (Aespa with Giselle - gosh I really love her voice, Exo with Xiumin). I am a baby exoL who noticed they have a good harmonization due to youth with you cover lol and since then I try to find other groups with similar composition and I find none suits to my liking. Since then I'm hooked to SM's groups.
Correction : Karina isn't the lead dancer. She is the main dancer.
And if you felt offended by the rankings then i'm really sorry. I didn't mean to put anyone down and these types of videos are just made for fun so don't take it seriously. You are free to disagree in the comments. Have a nice day
❤️
Dont be sorry
Rlly she isnt the leader? I did not know that
@@siameezse1223 She is leader and main dancer
@@wonyeonit0026 oh fuck i didnt read that right i thought it said she wasnt the leader BAHAHAH
Fun facts: SM is a home of vocals.
Facts!
and visual hahaha
@@syll3945 uwu!
Period
@@syll3945 exactly
SM ent. really has the best vocalists. AESPA didn't fail to prove that fact.
Like check
Ngl, i kinda find ningning's vocals underwhelming compared to Wendy, Luna or Taeyeon. SM kinda let me down.
@@minchoo1984 Come on she just debuted and she's the group's Maknae. Have you heard her singing voice on her official reveal? Her vocal tone reminds me of BADA to be honest, and that says a lot.
@@minchoo1984 Without offense, she is one of the best vocalists of the 4th gen, and if not, the best.
@@homurasenpai4458 I think gidles main vocals are better
tbh Winter & Seulgi can passed the main vocal position if they're in other group
yassss💅🏻❤️
Facts only 😌
Ok but which group?
@@wattlexpert blackpink and twice (maybe) and winter- itzy, etc. (Don't get offended I love all the groups)
@@Lix_lemonbear yep im a blink and i agree too
winter here really set the bar high for a lead vocalists, she can passed a main vocalist position if she’s in other group tho
I think she is like Seulgi from Red Velvet.
@@x-sadia-x4339 i agree
@@ooooo- I am myself is a wiz*one and i agree that they both have great voices , but chill aespa winter is still a rookie you know and aespa even herself not reveal all their potency in singing dancing or rapping yet so we don't even know how far they can be
@@yy_367 but she’s not better than them like it’s a proven fact if we do aespa vs izone yuri is better than ning ning and chaewon and eunbi are better than winter. while yena chaeyeon and yujin are better than karina, and gisselle
@@ooooo- izone debuted more than 2 years ago aespa are a 2 month old group when aespa is 2 years old I’m wuite sure that winter will be better than eunbi and Chaewon
Winter’s vocal tone is amazing.i love her she could easily be the main vocalist in others group
Yup, I think of that too but if ur amaze with winter's vocals, NING NING will exceed ur expectations... she's absolutely GREAT and the best VOCALIST in 4th Gen.
@@riazerimar7759 i know ningning is the great vocalist.we already know that since her predebut so im not surprised if she can hit the highnotes or stable.im just so surprised by winter because she can actually sing because I don’t expect her to be amazing like this.anyway both of them is amazing vocalist but not to be biasing i prefer winter vocals more but i also like ningning vocals.in conclusion aespa vocals line is the best and talented in 4th gen
@@riazerimar7759 op was saying that Winter could be a main vocalist in other groups. For eg sn, stayc, and many other groups
@@bad_kmj2467 you know ning ning vocal is powerful also her voice is powerful(most of the times).but winter has a good vocal skill with a pleasent and fine and also soft with unique voice..this is why winter vocal seems more pleasent for you.i know what are you saying..its good that they complete each other : powerful vocal + soft with unique tone vocal..just like taeyeon and jessica (snsd)
@@faezesh1235 ikr.both of them are so talented.we’re yet to hear ningning singing live at the moment but we all know she is already the great vocalist than winter that’s why she is the main vocalist but winter vocals is so soothing and mesmerising means we can hear it everytime
I have a feeling that Giselle is A LOT better than we think
She is.
She's the 'base' of aespa's song.
She hasn't gone all out yet, save the best for the last ;D
We haven't seen aespa's full potential. They will slay so much
Yeah, only 1 song didn't make justice to their vocals
Only 1 song. Lol
@@nisrinanurfaizaanasih7950 m
L
yea they only have 1 song yet aespa stans be acting like they saved the world
the way I already knew ningning and winter gonna be number 1 and 2, i mean aespa vocal is no joke, giselle being a member of choir for 4 years, and karina participated in a lot of singing contest and performance pre debut.. i can say that aespa is one of the most vocally intersting group in 4th gen
no bias or anything but I think that Aespa is a strong vocal group
@@janelasdoce1715 yes
@@janelasdoce1715 They come from SM what do you expect
@@rea8305 I know but, all of them are stable...................... You know what I mean
I was waiting for a 4th gen gg with strong vocals, I personally like Bvndit and their vocal tones are really interesting but something about aespa is really special... I think the only group who can compare to them vocally is Purple Kiss, can't wait to see more of them all.
winter is like seulgi, two lead vocals who could totally pass as main vocals
So trueee
Also wheein
True sm lead vocalist can totally pass as main vocalist in other group winter, seulgi, seohyun, tiffany, sunny and krystal
can you guys explain me what’s the difference between lead and main vocal
@@gabrielzzz2492 main vocalist is the best vocalist in the group, and lead vocalist is the second best. e.g.: seulgi (lead) and wendy (main), nayeon/jeongyeon (lead) and jihyo (main), jisoo (lead) and rosé (main)
Giselle can easily be a main vocal in other groups.
i really like her runs in that predebut vid gash :'DD
@@fantwice9385 she was an alto. and yes she can pass as a main vocal in other group
i don’t think she can be a main vocal but sm needs to give her a lead vocal position
@@fantwice9385 winter is definitely a main vocal material for sure. but still need another improvement to reach wendy's level obviously.
yes, giselle can pass as a main vocal in other group BUT i NEVER mention any other groups' name here. also i NEVER mention her can pass as a main vocal in ALL other groups. calm the fuck down, dude lols
@@fantwice9385 You tried it MIA is a great main vocal wdym? Tbh no i think sihyeon should be main vocal along with her.
Aespa are from SM so it’s no surprise that they are better vocalists than Itzy but even so,Itzy are pretty good vocalists as well
Jyp is lucky to have itzy
@@AnaS-xv8yb yass
@@AnaS-xv8yb yeah, and I think jyp hasn't invested much on honing their vocals. it's basically just itzy with their natural vocal talents and previously honed talents from other shows. i do hope, like the video says, they train them more in that aspect.
Itzy is a dance based group. So they are the best dancers of the 4th gen.
@@repliesthendisappears2982 isn't that classic JYP move tho, prioritizing dance... Both Twice and Itzy have good singers but I feel like they try too hard with their choreos.. but I'd say they do have the best dancers.
"She is the best vocalist of 4th gen" THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING TO READ FOR 4 YEARS !!!! Ningning has the potential to be 4th gen's Taeyeon
ningning is far from that lmao
Duh, she just debut. Are you dumb 🙄😂
NO, SHE WILL NEVER BE THE NEXT TAEYEON😭
@jenniecrushed ugh, go to see a psychologist darl
@@muhammadrizal171 ok fine maybe not the next taeyeon but the next Bada. Ningning vocals remind me of Bada especially when she sing maria.
YGE is the home of Rappers!
JYPE is the home of Dancers!
SME is the home of Singers and Visuals
Big3 periodt.
Yup
Ten and Taemin peeking out like 👀
@@lyvre7491 Kai too...
Actually. Dont judge me but, SM and Cube has more better Overall, but in general rap and style YG are good.
@@ninikim4728 oh yes o forgot my baby krgiaveh2
Aespa vocals is powerful
what about itzy?? toxic asf
@@yejin666 calm down. Itzy has amazing vocals too the person was just complimenting aespa
@@cremeoi6710 dw sis itzy outsold every kpop group in existence. just focus on your faves they might be flops
@@yejin666 bitch first off all blackpink outsold itzy literally and second THEY LIKES AESPA so yeah and third relax that attitude of a bitch and last aespa doing pretty good for a debut
@@yejin666 lmao bitch she just said that aespa vocals is powerful, where's the side she toxic ??? Stupid
For me without being biased aespa members deserve the top 1-4
Sanaol
YES after how aespa showed their vocal abilities in Knowing Brothers
Nope
Louderr
BIG YES after watching their savage encore stage💅🏽😌
Lia has a good vocal tone but she really need to practice with the breathing department especially when they are dancing
Si pero jyp arruina las voces de sus artistas:(
Same
Well they're always singing live but aespa isn't
@@shinjoanne1743 Aunque aespa no cante en vivo se nota que sus vocales son demasiado buenos
@@shinjoanne1743 girl please aespa only debuted what do u even expect?
If you're an artist from SM your vocals must be always on point and aespa confirmed it.
SM never disappoints when we talk about vocals
Can’t wait to see more about Aespa in the future!
@@am9rii te veo en todos lados ekisde
@@ingridmar2008 Eres la primera persona que me dice eso fjfkfkfm
all rounders
Not rapping and dancing tho
I'm here after aespa's 'Forever' release. Shouldn't the ranking be changed cuz Karina and Giselle's vocals are 🔥
Put all asepa members first then itzy behind lol
Pure aespa outsing itzy with ease😂
Yup. After forever. It’s clear that Aespa should get the 1st to 4th place. Ningning at 1st, Winter 2nd, and I’ll switch Karina to 3rd and Giselle at 4th since she has more range.
Here after Midzy and the ranking should stay the same 😊
@@livelaughlia3756 oh, I've listened to it, it's pretty good. But I still stand by my opinion.
Ningning will probably be one of the best vocalists of the 4th gen
She is
And winter too
@QUEEN ELKIE yes she is🙄🙄
@QUEEN JISOO *lol shut your fucking mouth up, blinks is not like that*
@QUEEN JISOO ←Ignore this troll!!
Damn i just can't get enough of winter's vocals can we get more of her voice she sounds like heaven i swear
Yeah.her voice is so soothing.sm is so lucky to have such a talented idol like her
And ning ning
@@jihyotwice5056 dang.dont insert her in winter praising comments.just make your own comments dont be like this
@@bad_kmj2467 🤣🤣
@@jihyotwice5056 but yea ofc Ningning she doesn't sound like a rookie she truly possesses the powerful voice of a Disney princess she's the powerhouse vocalist of 4th gen.
Ningning's vocal range is crazy, SM main vocalists really do stand out from the crowd✨
I honestly think Karina can still rank higher if she'll be able to show her singing more. Tbh, I really like her tone :( Hoping for vocalist karina next comeback
She’s already singing in black mamba.lets just hope rapper karina in next cb
@@bad_kmj2467 it didn't show much of her skill in singing tho, with those lines. but yes, i'm really really hoping for rapper kariselle in the next cb!
But higher than her are the main and lead vocalists, but we still dont know if she could rank higher because we haven't seen much so i agree with u
@@graykim1072 yes, she just needs some time to show off her skills
She showed off her skills in forever and it was great, but Giselle showed off she’s amazing and could easily be a lead vocalist.
Personally, I feel like aespa knows technique more than ITZY because they are trained with SM (so they're not only idols or performers, they are singers). But with ITZY, I do think that JYP trains them to become straight up idols or performers (which is nothing bad at all tho)
IU say ITZY is all around
@@clairejanzen640 bruh, im not saying that they are not an all rounded idols, but i was saying that TECHNIQUE WISE, aespa is better since SM is known for their vocal training. Thats why i said ITZY is a great performers
It doesn't matter which company you debut under , they should all be trained for becoming idols . Sm looks at all aspects while jyp focuses on dance like look at twice , they're really good dancers. But their vocals are pretty bad ngl.
@HEBAH BEWAR SAADIQ you can disagree with me but it'll still remain as a fact . Twice needs to be trained vocally but instead of that they're given comeback very often which is straining their voices . See im not hating . This is a constructive criticism. And I think jeongyeon is the best of all of them vocally because her voice is always stable and she doesn't sound like she's straining it.
@HEBAH BEWAR SAADIQ yes I do listen to their songs but what's the point of having good vocalists and good songs if you can't sing it live ? ( btw get loud and firework are my favorite bsides)
Ning ning is the best vocalist of 4th generation
YES COULDN'T AGREE MORE!
ningning is far from that lmao
@GG Stan💓 Maybe for you ,but ain’t for us,even Lia is far from that.,stay pressed
@@abhaysuresh7375 stay pressed?? Sorry but did you mean by that im an itzy hater? No, lmao. This is only my opinion. I love itzy as well as aespa. But in term of vocal, i think aespa is better (no offense please) especially the main vocal ones. My comment also supposed to be a compliment for ningning. So sorry if i offended you.
@@ggstan2439 You clearly didnt heard her high note extension in savage in the last part 💀
@@Diana-rx5fs any singer can do that
Theses ranking are so true and notice how they didn’t put anyone down I love this
can't wait to hear more aespa members singing in the future
AESPA: best singers
ITZY: best dancers
*it's a fact, periodt.*
Yas
Everglow: best rappers(?
@@jassieuwu2131 gidle lol
@@thatguy-ok1fj I said rappers, (g)i-dle only have one rapper
Omg stop fighting plz lets support each other uwu
We can’t agree no more when it comes to vocal SM’s idol is the winner but i think both group aespa and itzy have their own specialities such as itzy more to dance and aespa is their vocal ability.
aespa members are vocal geniuses
For me:
1. Ningning
2. Winter
3. Giselle
4. Karina
5. Lia
6. Yeji
7. Chaeryeong
8. Yuna
9. Ryujin
Because Aespa really has the best vocalists.
Yes
I agree
I think Karina is better than Giselle tho ,she has better technique
@@abhaysuresh7375yeah no
why does it feels like ningning is the long lost daughter of chen and baekhyun, just daebak❤️
I immediately laughed at how true this is. I think of Winter as Aespa's baekhyun and Ning Ning as Chen
Yesss ur correct
thats not true? Chen and Baekhyun are not shouty.. also Chen and Baekhyun has PROPER support, not like NingNing who is still kinda inconsistent.. all still great tho?
@@true-mrremoved656 I think they meant it as the main vocal positions in their groups. Where both are just equally amazing at their vocal techniques and high notes. And don't you forget that at the start, both Chen and Baekhyun were a bit unstable in their live performances as well. They quickly improved and I'm sure NingNing will too.
Hmm i think she more like new bada
For me
1.ningning
2.winter
3.karina
4.giselle
5.lia
6.yeji
7.chaer
8.yuna
9.ryujin
actually thats the real one when we look at the ranges
Ningning is my bias. She's so talented and really adorable.
After aespa released more content, as of now in terms of vocals it’s definitely:
Ningning > Winter > Karina > Lia > Giselle > Yeji > Chaeryeong > Yuna > Ryujin
All aespa members can apparently support which is rare for a kpop group. imo, Lia could probably go up Winter’s level if she had SM training.
--
Update! After DCT, I think it might be Giselle > Lia now. Damn aespa 💀
finally there's someone who put karina above lia and giselle above yeji. tbh that's the right rank for me, agreed 100%
I think Gissele only have shallow support
@@wenreneisreal6668 Apparently so, but it's definitely better than having none at all.
Lia sings better than karina for sure tho , I don't see how that ranking is fair . Yeji is debatable because her voice isn't really unique but it still sounds better than Giselle.
@@goriantheboi8044 I think Karina >= Lia because Karina's A4s are better than Lia and she is less nasal than Lia
Most groups: Main vocalist does most of the backup vocals
aespa: Main rapper does all the backup vocals LOL
Giselle is like: I love rapping but singing is my part-time job :3
SM has the best vocalists in every generation. It's no surprise to me
the thing that I noticed as 2nd gen stan also is that, JYP tends to trained their artists without much of special technique, they just need to sound unique and nasally (in the good way) for their song to be known or separated, cus as we know from miss a and wonder girls, they’re not strong in vocal departments, but their voices is so unique that make them stand out in most of kpop groups, but eventually can affect the idols voice in the future esp. momo and im afraid yeji too, yeji strained her vocals so many many times, that im afraid that her vocal get damaged so badly, in SM case, they exactly know what they trained for their artists, they’re not changing their artists vocal, they’re tend to advance their artists vocal with learning how to really sing with techniques, some idols in SM already gifted with vocals such as baekhyun, d.o, wendy, seulgi, taeyeon, luna, ningning, winter
Jyp ent doesn't really care for vocal delivery, they usually throws one or two good enough singers and the rest are traines to be performers. Its a formula that works but I'm scared for itzy its like they want to kilk as much as they can out of them before they become vocally strained which is sad. On the flip end i want aespa to also try challenging concepts (though black mamba was fire)
For SM, they're not changing their artist's vocal "identity". I agree with this. But at the same time, they also trained them to blend their vocal with other members when they have to sing together.
@@bagashayujatmiko9855 yeah, that’s why if we notice, most of sm artist songs are they’re singing together in the chorus
@@mulenga9531 yes, this is what im afraid, lia and yeji can be a really good vocalist, it just jyp not giving them the right part of the song what i mean is that, their vocal is not match with higher note that jyp gaave to them,but still jyp wants them to hit the high note and causing them to strained their voices bcs their not properly trained in vocals with techniques and support which is can damage their vocals in the long term..
This is so true. Your comment should be pinned
I already knew Ningning will be no.1 She's such a great vocalist and I hope Aespa will be a succesful group in the future❤
I think karina will be high in the future because karina has a position of a vocalist just like joy or rv while giselle doesn’t (even tho giselle is really good) it just proves karina is good and black mamba didn’t really showcase anything in terms of her vocals so let just wait
Giselle are more vocalist than Karina I think,
I can't wait to hear more of Karina's voice 💓 I'm sure she will slay in the vocal department
@editname agree
@@yy_367 Karina was presented as a sub vocalist too, so there's a mistake on kprofiles 😊
@@yy_367 it's okay 💓
Aespa seems not to play this time... Karina, the leader, with main dancer title, but still slay with those vocals and rap. Giselle, the main rapper, but with 4 years experience in choir and big potential in vocal, dont forget her dance and expression really good tho, with short training period. Winter, not only the visual, but ace of the group with her vocal and dance ability like main dancer and main vocal material. And NingNing, obviously gonna be the best 4th gen idol main vocal,but not only that her dancing totally on point and its very crazy she have interest to rap😍
Even tho only 4 girls make it after 6 years, since RV debut... but the quality itself gonna be so great. All member can be all rounder and I hope SM not gonna ignore them just like that.
Giselle is a hidden gem, y’all just wait...I’m calling it. She’ll be in the top 3 of this list eventually.
All aespa member should be on top 4 and up. Check out their mv "forever" flexing their vocals.
After hearing Forever from Aespa I can definitely say that all the members are DEFINITELY great vocalists.
Aespa's Vocals are Killer
Itzy's Dances are Killer
They are both Killer
Aespa’s raps are killer too
Giselle is a trained vocalist, for me she is definitely better than Yeji
Yash !!! Agree !
ruclips.net/video/UAiTCzWY2Kg/видео.html
For live performances (dancing/singing), ITZY is a lot better, for ballads or Standing or Sitting, AESPA is better
@@leeknowiscute1621 thats your opinion and i'll let you have that
Yeah I agree
Getting to see more of Aespa's vocal abilities with 'Forever'. They will be good. Giselle, the rapper? 😂
It goes 1-4 aespa 5-9 the rest
my girlies aespa has only 1 song for God sake wbk they will be vocal legends like their seniors.
When SM lead vocalist that can be a main vocalist too.
You have to watch aespa new mv guys . The title is forever. In that song they prove that they all have amazing vocals
I've been training in vocal since 5yrs old. I hv lots of knowledge in vocals. I have very high standards when it comes to it. I don't see many ppl talk about "singing flavour" . And I prefer all aespa vocals instead of itzy. Lia can pass my standard but yeji can't. She's very nasally n emotionless. Lia's pretty good actually but I can't see her style. Idk of its just me who can't find it, but I feel like she's just there to sing, there's no flavour. Becuz she hv an advantage which is her natural beautiful tone and she also hv great emotion so I give her a pass. No hate tho I really like her. But all aespa members hv a flavour n that's why all of them(tone, flavour n technique wise)r better then itzy
(For those who r confused of what is "singing style" n how to identify it. It can be how u pronounce words, how u sing with ur breath, add vibration etc. Its how u make a song "yours" by putting ur own flavours in it. Rose from bp is a great example of this. Notice how she sings with lots of vibration n "cracking" her voice purposely at every end. It sounds like she's screaming but at the very best way. And also taemin, he add flavours by singing with lots of breath in his sound. It sounds like he's out of breath in a sexy way. So yah, if u hv any questions about this feel free to ask in the comments I would luv to help.)(also singing style is something u purposely do to exaurate ur singing. While singing tone is just the sound of ur voice )
Agreed with you so much. Lia has good tone color but I think she'll dominate if somebody outside jyp had taught her proper vocal training. Yeji is "stable" but I can't deny the fact that she sounds monotonous all the time. I think this is a hard to swallow facts for a lot of midzys like me. Jyp really needs to hire good vocal trainers.
@@crymea__river yes that's right. No doubt sm vocal trainers r better. And also I think jyp focus more on dancing this time. That's why 4 out of 5 girls hv dance positions.
Itzy more to dancing queen w their hard choreography itzy literally queens of 4th generation
@@marsyabatrisyia4968 okay.. lmao
@@fiona5474 I really hate this actually. That's pity, a lot of kpop agencies doesn't give proper vocal training. . They tend to focus on dancing more, but forgetting the vocal. They're idols but they're still singers too. I'm sure those idols (outside SM) want to receive proper vocal training as well. But there's only few small companies focusing on vocal more.
Aespa 4th gen vocal queens.
Itzy: queens of dance
Aespa: queens of vocals
When it comes to vocals I'll go with aespa winter is a lead vocalist but she can be the main
Im glad SM new gg rly has amazing vocals as well. And I hope SM manage them well. Yes visual, dance etc is important.. But if they want to get higher... Singing and rapping skill should be the main focus~ SM has great songs, great choreo, high budget.. all they need to do now is treating aespa as "artist" not only as "idols"~~
Ningning has been a singer predebut and only practice singing indoors while training at SM. It will take her a while to master how to divide her energy while singing and dancing at the same time but she will get there! NCT dream vocalists had the same struggles as well at first but can now sing flawlessly while dancing difficult choreography. Ningning will grow into one of the best vocalists SM has ever put out in the likes of BOA, Bada, Taeyeon, Luna and Wendy.
True NINGNING's vocals is no joke
I really love Lia's tone, I actually prefer r&b more than pop and I hope I can hear her sing more r&b song in the future. On the other hand, NingNing have a powerful voice and her voice actually suit in disney osts. All members of aespa are definitely a good vocalists. I like both Chaeryoung and Yuna but they sound too nasal for me.
I think yeji is best too with Lia. But Lia doesn't stable and can't highnote
@@yourfuture5307 Yeji strained a lot tho, but she's pretty stable. I think Lia's tone is still better but Yeji have better techniques, being a good singer isn't all about high notes.
@@chuu9859 i think Lia is just good tone. In chorus of dalla², yeji is better sings
Sorry for my English 😭
@@yourfuture5307 not really... but I respect your opinion, I personally think Lia's better but she should improve her stability and techniques while dancing. We have different preferences and it's fine, both are good, I just personally prefer Lia's vocal. :>
aespa for sure, knowing that they're from SM, they definitely have powerful vocals. even thw rappers can easily be the lead/main vocalists in other groups outside SM.
Now that aespa will have a ballad release I can’t wait to see karina and Giselle’s vocals on the track. The song is a remake of yoo young Jin “forever” it’s very beautiful and has some pretty high notes and runs and btw this is the man that knetz said is winter’s dad because her vocals are so similar to his. Winter will definitely shine on this track and so will ningning but we wanna see rap line sing. Song is out on feb 5th btw
It was awesome and they proved to be top of the list karina and giselle 🥰
i think we need a new ranking 😎
Who’s here after aespa performed live? Think the RUclipsr needs to change aespa to top 4!!!
Have you even listened to midzy?
@@livelaughlia3756 yeah that heavy auto tuned stuff, that itzy fans think is good enough to outsing aespa? Itzy have proven they’re at least better than twice, but they aren’t even close with aespa 😊
@@scropwsanct2059 not one midzy have said anything about aespa regarding midzy we’ve just appreciated itzys vocals and their improvements
@@livelaughlia3756 I’ve seen a few comments, but that’s fine the girls done well
And it’s about time they showed some
Vocal sides to them 😊
Ur being WAY to biased
You simply cant compare them knowing that aespa only have 1 song, but the predebut of NINGNING says it all. Loud and clear Ningning slays i dont know about the other
When the FOREVER MV came out:
1. Ningning
2. Winter
3. Karina
4. Giselle
4. Lia
5. Yeji
6. Chaeryeong
7. Yuna
8. Ryujin
exactly
Agreed
AESPA have everything litteraly ! SM training is really hard so im not surprised
New ranking
1-ningning
2-winter
3-karina
4-giselle
5-lia
6-yeji
7-chaeryoung
8-yuna
9-ryujin
Updated list
1. Ningning
2. Winter
3. Giselle
4. Karina
5. Others
After forever.
@@Lajririrkt this is to praise them right ? Because this is not true
I think ningning still shy about her vocal, she need to be confident but yeah you know she is maknae, still young and was legal at this year so i think that's why she still shy about her amazing vocals
"Karina can be Main Vocalist in other group" I mean ofc 👏🏻😩
Honestly I think Karina and Giselle have better vocals then Yeji. They have better technic, wider ranges and they can both convey more emotion when singing. That's something that Yeji lacks as a lead vocalist.
I think with the recent song of Aespa (Forever), the ranking should probably change..imo
Ninging has the best vocals in the 4th generation.
ningning is far from that lmao
@@ggstan2439 keep crying lol
@@fairykaty311 i will keep being honest lmao
@@ggstan2439 define honest
@@ggstan2439 then who is the best vocalist in 4th Gen?
itzy is good but aespa's vocal is just on another level. karina and giselle could easily become a lead vocal in another group.. even aespa only have one song we can already tell that there is no vocal hole in aespa. that's how powerful their vocal are
Okay I'm gonna stan Aespa🥰
Ofcourse Aespa
Now can we have an updated version of this
i love karina's vocals, she really is an all rounder
Aespa is a way more better Vocalists and Visual, while Itzy dominates in dancing and rapping.
I tgink itzy rap is more chant than rap bith groups newd to grow in this area, but they definitely dominate in dance. Vocals i mean its SM what do you expect
itzy > more to dance, rap, stable voice when singing live
aespa > more to vocal
@@marsyabatrisyia4968 don't judge so fast aespa we only saw they vocals first we don't know anything about rap yet so better do not judge because I know giselle is a good rapper look at her teaser but sm didnt let her rap in their debut song.
ur kidding w the visuals part right
@@oceanid4923 obviously aespa is better at visual.
Well AESPA are from SM, not surprised. They're all great, let's not compare 💃
sm's vocals are on different level, but let's appreciate itzy's stages always singing live
The fact that Aespa is still a rookie and already have these talent, I can't wait for them to show more of how powerful they are. 4th Gen QUEENS💕
Honestly, Giselle and Karina's vocals can easily surpass yeji's vocals. Yeji's vocal is powerful but it doesn't have it's own color. She's like screaming everytime she sings.
Actually Yeji's vocal is so low that's why it's hard for her but it's amazing how she still be good at higher range at some point...
girl what...
Wtf
+ Karina supports a note while Yeji doesn't
Don’t people say Karina is better than Lia or they are near the same level. 😭
FACT: SM ent have the best vocal in the industry. There is no denying about that.
So to summarize this video without comparing individual artists is read the FACT above this statement.
I don't even know what to say with this ranking, like even predebut Karina shows much more potential than debuted Lia.
nah.
Yup
I mean they had to do this.. imagine placing the whole aespa above itzy... wars will break out. even if its true👄
True
Ningning
Winter
Karina
Yeji
Lia
Gisel
Vocal
1. Ningning
2. Winter
3. Karina
4. Giselle
5. Lia
6. Yeji
7. Chaeryeong
8. Yuna
9. Ryujin
Dance
1. Chaeryeong
2. Yeji
3. Ryujin
4. Yuna
5. Karina
6. Winter
7. Ningning
8. Giselle
9. Lia
Karina is way better than yuna and has more technique than Ryujin for sureeee and winter is better than yuna also, yuna has great stage presence though!
Karina is better than yuna and karina=ryujin
@@homesickfish LOL, basically Lia is not good at dancing. she is better at singing.
@@scropwsanct2059 Are u perhaps a professional dancer?? 💀💀😭
@@ivanimanuelkarinda6718 barely lia is an average singer
We can all agree that AESPA's vocals is on a other level, however when it come to dancing and performance. You better need to brace yourselves for ITZY's gonna kill it with complexity and synchronization.
True!! No offense but ITZY IS SO VERSATILE GROUP IVE EVER SEEN
Definitely Aespa 😎
Ranking -
1 Ningning
2 Winter
3 Karina & giselle
4 - 8 Itzy
Lol
You’re so bias
sis-
Fact
fact
this is My personal opinion:
Sm: Best singers
Jyp: Best dancers
Yg: Best rapers
*rappers
How is JYP ent have best dancers when they only have Momo as a promising dancer while SM ent have U-know, Eunhyuk, BoA, Hyoyeon, Taemin, Kai, Lay, Seulgi, Ten, Taeyong, Jisung, Shotaro, etc. and YG have Taeyang, Minzy & Lisa.
@@AC-rs3fz fr
I think we should start to rethink this scenario on which company owns best dancers, singers, rappers because you also need to think about male and female groups that master in different areas. This opinion shows limitations.
I'm so sorry but SM aces in all category🙂
I agree Yeji should also be the main vocal of Itzy.
The shock for me is Giselle I didn't know she did most of the vocals she is pretty great my Gosh
Sm Vocals>>>>>>
Im a MIDZY and a MY, but JYP should be ashamed that a lead vocalist from another group is better than his main vocalist. Anyways, stan Aespa and Itzy for clear skin.
And then aespa -forever
Release...
Periodt they shut them down
@@nonowintercolorfulningning6072 yeah jajaja
Lol midzy are saying they used ads 😂when they got 1million likes in one hour. I think based on this My and midzy won't be on good terms
@@nonowintercolorfulningning6072 thats the point..
Not at y'all degrading Ningning's vocal capability when she has tons of videos on RUclips of her singing in a Chinese show at a very young age. If your intentions are to just degrade her, might as well do some research first about her.
what are you talking about? 95% of the comments about NingNing here were praising her
actual ranking
VOCALS
1:Ning ning
2:winter
3:karina
4:giselle
5:lia
6:yeji
7:chaeryong
8:yuna
9:ryujin
DANCE
1:Chaeryoung
2:Yeji
3:Karina
4:Ryujin
5:Winter
6:Yuna
7:Ning ning
8:Giselle
9:Lia
Rap
1:Giselle
2:karina
3:ryujin
4:yuna and yeji
5:Winter
6:lia
7:Ning ning and chaeryoung
STAGE PRESENCE
1:Yeji
2:Karina
3;Ryujin
4:Ning ning
5:Yuna
6:Chaeryoung
7:Giselle
8:Winter
9:lia
Visual
1:Winter
2:karina
3:yuna
4:Ryujin
5:Giselle
6:lia
7:ning ning
8:chaeryoung
Updater ver where? aespa new song killing it boo
Facts should be (Based on vocal technique)
1. NINGNING
2. Winter
3. Lia
4. Karina
5. Giselle
6 others
1 - 5 have support, the other 4 members of Itzy doesn't
Karina has some solid support than Lia
Omg idk I just read it somewhere 😭
NIGNING > WINTER > KARINA > GISELLE > LIA > YEJI > CHAER , YUNA, RYUJIN
Both are amazing ggs
Yeji above karina and Giselle is this a joke lmfao
Yup, after forever, Aespa should get the 1st to 4th place
Ikr 😁
@@shersurewin woah your too biased
chile its their opinion
Agree
SM's power is harmonization ✨. They have this often subtle back vocal that makes their songs sound good (Aespa with Giselle - gosh I really love her voice, Exo with Xiumin). I am a baby exoL who noticed they have a good harmonization due to youth with you cover lol and since then I try to find other groups with similar composition and I find none suits to my liking. Since then I'm hooked to SM's groups.