Masters of the Air - Dropping Aid in the Netherlands (Operation Chowhound)
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- Masters of the Air - Dropping Aid in the Netherlands
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Operation Chowhound
On the American side, ten bomb groups of the US Third Air Division flew 2,268 sorties beginning 1 May, delivering a total of 4,000 tons. Four hundred B-17 Flying Fortress bombers of the United States Army Air Forces dropped 800 tons of K-rations during 1 to 3 May on Amsterdam Schiphol Airport. At least one B-17 crew, that of the Stork Club from the 550th squadron received battle recognition despite having no guns for their humanitarian mission, as a result of receiving fire from German flak.
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Somehow this scene touched different, perhaps because I’m a Dutchie. Our tales about the war are not necessarily about heroic battles, but rather times of hardship and starvation. These droppings kept my grandparents alive. Thanks to all Allies! :)
This taught me a side of the story that I was not familiar with before. Truly brought me to tears. Having been lucky enough to have been given the smallest of graces, it pales in comparison to what I just learned. Peace
Sad, dutchie feels starvation and hardship on that 4 years, while dutchie colonial subjects feels that for centuries.
Drops not droppings. Droppings means poop
@@louisburke8927thanks for po(st)ing;-)
As a Canadian, a special place for the Netherlands in our hearts every spring when the tulips are sent over to Ottawa from our Dutch friends. My best friend’s parents were Dutch and settled in Canada after the war.
That orange made me cry tbh. My grandmather was a child in Madrid during the siege of the Spanish civil war. She had to survive alone with her older sister because their parents got caught outside of Madrid when the battle started. They had a very hard time getting food. She often told about that one time a convoy of trucks managed to break through from Valencia, and she got an orange, she always said that nothing in her life tasted as good as that orange.
There's also a metaphor in that scene: The Dutch royal family is the House of Orange-Nassau, and the color used to celebrate the Dutch monarchy is orange.
What makes this so powerful to me is that this scene finally shows us how beautiful those aircraft can be. No death, no bombs, no peril. Just incredible machines and the wonder of flight.
Military aircraft can be used for many things other than just bombings.
You’re on point there with capturing the wonder of flight, in my opinion this is the only sequence in the whole series that truly gets it from the start with the crew chief’s point of view from the nose while climbing through the clouds.
What really got me was the shot around 0.30 of the wing swaying, such a beautiful little detail making everything so much more believable despite the “controversial” CGI .
I wish the rest of the series flight sequences were so tastefully executed but I guess the producers were under pressure to show some flashy Hollywood-style action to appease modern audiences that supposedly don’t care about realism. This really backfired in my opinion, it’s evident the production was tight both on budget and time when it came to the CGI and just made worse with some of the episode directors’ insisting on useless tropes like the time freezing of fighter planes passing by, etc.
Hayao Miyazaki’s The Wind Rises would agree.
My mother and grandfather stood on the roof in The Hague watching the aircraft
"Bombay doors opening"
"Crates Away"
Such a simple yet powerful line.
When I count the seconds from when the white X is visible I actually think they would have been late on the release.
My mothers brother served in RAF Bomber Command. He did one Operation Manna trip to Holland in his Lancaster.
His reward came decades later while living in New Zealand when a Dutch business man in New Zealand paid for 6 RAF crew and wives to go to London in 2012 for the unveiling of the Bomber Command Memorial. This Dutchman's father had suffered in WW2 and had had his life saved by the food dropped by the RAF.
Glad Europe is finally increasing their military budgets and getting off the backs of US taxpayers!
@@iamgermane OMG Glad you can allways rely on an American for stupid comments
1, Why even make this statement it has nothing to do with the clip
2, What other Nato countries spend on there defence budgets has no impact at all on what America spends on its defence budget or American Tax payers, The US are NOT paying more to prop up NATO.
3, The only time Nato has EVER been deployed as force outside of a UN Mandat was to defend America after 9/11
As i can only assume the reason you even make this statment is @fredersicksaxton3991 referenace to RAF taking part in the operation
US OP (Chowhound) dropperd 4000 tonnes
RAF OP (Manna) started before the US one and dropped 7000 tonnes. Infact the RAF operation was taking place BEFORE the agreement was made with the Germans not to fire on the aid planes that is eluded to in this clip
After many years of raining hell on people, they finally dropped life instead of death. What a beautiful contrast.
Participating in Operations Manna and Chowhound must have felt wonderful to the RAF and 8th Air Force bomber crews involved.
Both times they did their duty.
@@SlytherSnakeRight. Churchill wasn’t stupid enough to trust the Germans. They dropped bombs soon afterwards.
this is one of the best moments in my opinion, huge contrast from the usual action, grief, and fighting
i agree
Using weapons of War, to bring aid and help to those in need. The irony of this has always been incredibly moving and poetic.
It's been done for a hundred years by the US at least.
This scene was also beautiful because Buck, Buckley, Crosby and Rosie are all together again, like back in the early episodes
Don’t forget mechanic ken lemons.
That orange meant the world for that girl. The Netherlands will never forget what our friends did for us
Operation Manna with RAF and RCAF in Lancasters were involved as well. I knew a RCAF Lancaster pilot who participated.
Do you remember the names of that pilot, pray tell?
Oh, the stories he must have had to tell and told his relatives.
My mother-in-law tolds stories of hunger during the long winter of 1944 and the food droppings by the RAF and USAAF.
Say what you want. Hasn't been perfect, but this series was amazing in my view. Really amazing
This will never be forgotten. These British and American airmen deserve respect and gratitude. It makes me sad to know hardly any one of them is still with us.
And Commonwealth
Operation Chowhound (USAAF) dropped 4,000 tonnes, Operation Mana (RAF, RAAF, RCAF) dropped 7,000 tonnes. Shame it doesn't appear to have been mentioned...
Americans think that they did everything themselves
And Manna started earlier...
But far, far more was delivered by the British and Canadian Army's using trucks....which never gets mentioned either....
Enough of the "We did more than you guys" crap. While you're at it, did the Brits and Canadians participate in the Marshall Plan? No. And, I do believe, the US initiated and did more in the Berlin Airlift. So what.
@@64MDW A mention of the RAF and the RCAF contribution woud have been nice. thats all.
@@64MDW Do you think you could contradict yourself more?
Thank you for this. It's exactly what I was looking for and one of the best scenes in the entire series.
My dad was 4 and remembers watching this from an attic window. Where he lived it was the RAF or RCAF, but the circumstances were the same.
2:10 makes me tear up seeing the young girl start to cry seeing fresh fruit after so long
I guess there was apples and pears in the summer? And an orange she might never have seen before so what do you refer to when saying "seeing gresh fruit after so long". It was not 2024 you knw...
@@JohnDoe-sb7ch If you recall in the episode, they mentioned many of them havent seen fresh fruit in a long time. Thanks for sharing your moronic opinion.
There's also a metaphor in that scene: The Dutch royal family is the House of Orange-Nassau, and the color used to celebrate the Dutch monarchy is orange.
The RAF did this as well , I think it was code named operation Manner ,as in manner from heaven, I may be wrong onthe name, but it did happen. I was privelged to have met and befriended years later, Walter Birkby who was a rear gunner in Lancaster bombers that made these deliveries. He told me ,the approach to the DZ was very tense,but the enemy guns stayed silent as agreed.
Mana (not Manner)
During the Berlin Airlift the Brits called their Operation: Plainfare
The newly formed US Air Force (during WW2 it was the US Army Air Force) called their Operatio: Vittles, and after a certain plane's crew started dropping candy before landing with the major food delivery, Operation Little Vittles began!
Sadly, Gail Halvorsen passed in 2022
@timmeinschein1061 thanks for the correction,I wasn't sure of the spelling. I also heard of a poor fellow who was so hungry, he ate powdered eggs in powder form, not knowing what it was and not adding water,his stomach burst as the egg reconstituted.
@@stevenlepine1883 Same issue happened several times during the Berlin Airlift!
As if these people hadn't suffered enough,so sad.
operation bushel in the 1980s in Ethiopia
My dad's first cousin did 2 Chow Hound missions for the 100th at the end of the war.
The episode showed it, but imagine how it must have felt to those young crews, flying over enemy held territory without being fired on. It must have been almost unimaginable. God bless them all.
@@chriscarter5720 From Cousin Gene's war diary
Roger Freeman's MIGHTY EIGHTH WAR DIARY indicates on page 501 and 502 that the 13th Combat Bomb Wing (95th E.G., 100th B.G., and the 390th B.G, ) flew "Chow Hound" missions dropping food to Holland cities on May 1 through 7, 1945. The members of the Lazzari crew do not remember how many or which missions they flew. They know that they flew at least 2, but probably 3 of these "Chow Hound" missions. Lt. Greenwood's Form 5 "Air Force Individual Flight Record" documents that the Lazzari crew flew 4 hours on May 2, 3, 5, and 7. and 3+30 hours on May 6th Therefore, there is a possibility that the Lazzari crew flew 5 of the 7 "Chow Hound" mission. Lt. Greenwood recalls that on one mission to the Amsterdam Schipol Airport that the crew flying in the lower slot complained that his props were churning up the North Sea. The 100th was flying in standard 10 plane formation under a solid ceiling of less that 500 feet. Due to an agreement worked out with the occupying Germans, we were briefed that we had only a one quarter mile land fall on the Dutch coast. And if we varied off course, we were legal game for the German gunners. Fortunately, we had the best of Lead Navigators for we made land fall at precisely the authorized sector of the coast. ¶As we turned north to make our run on the airport, again we were restricted to a corridor one quarter mile wide. Again, I our navigation was without error, but as T/Sgt Richard Heritage and S/Sgt Dan O'Connell reported, the German gunners on the ground were aiming their guns at our planes. Our 50 caliber machine guns were loaded and ready to fire. I am sure that if one German had squeezed of one shot, he would have regretted it. for as we went into trail formation to drop our load of food, there were literally hundreds of B-17 gunners on super alert.
We have vivid recollection of the Dutch people running out on the airport to pick up the food. They were 50 eager to get to the food, they threw all caution aside, for if one of the crates or boxes had fallen on one of them it could have killed them. we were briefed that the Germans were starving these people and that the situation was getting desperate; watching them scrambling to get the food confirmed the report. After dropping the food and still on a northerly heading, we flew over some of Amsterdam and there we witnessed a display of gratitude that none of us had ever seen; thousands of Dutch people waving anything they could get their hands on; bed sheets, table cloths and blankets. Being a part of this very humanitarian effort and witnessing the Dutch response was a topic of discussion at the 100th Bomb Group for many days afterward, taking the place of flak, fighters and losses.
Food was actually dropped without parachutes, it was mainly tins and dried food.
The VFX are very uneven across the series, however in this particular sequence I found them very good. Also the tasteful direction of this scene without over the top stuff à la Michael Bay helps keeping the suspense of disbelief IMO.
This reminds me more of the Memphis Belle film than Star Wars as many RUclips commenters have compared the flight and combat scenes to.
The VFX get a lot of hate across RUclips clips of the show, I would attribute a lot of the flak they get (see what I did there?) to senseless flashy direction of some episodes more than incompetent animators.
I found this overall glosiness uncalled for considering the series producers and the more realistic style of BoB and The Pacific to not mention Saving Private Ryan.
In any case I enjoyed this series and would watch it again, would love to see something similar about RAF Bomber Command that I think were unfairly portrayed in this
Would also love to see a series showing the British perspective on things especially the D-day landings. Mixed in with an amazing soundtrack similar to BoB, The Pacific & Master of the Air. Michael Kamen and Blake Neely truly did an amazing job.
There’s the quite excellent Bomber Boys documentary about RAF bomber command presented by Ewan McGregor and his RAF pilot brother you might want to check out in case you haven’t already, it’s here on RUclips in full length
a stark reminder of the humanity that gets buried by war.
At that day all coal and flower was going to the utter last reserves... Had liberation come two weeks later, millions whould have died in western Holland.
Amazing episode!
Brilliant episode to end an
Amazing series
The German rank and file had to have looked up at the stream of allied bombers filling the air, thought about how the allies could afford that much fuel and food for the drop, and realized, "We are so screwed."
My grandpa was in the Air Transport Auxiliary (ATA) having been transferred from the RAF (he was regarded as old at 28 in 1941!). He told us the story about how he participated in the food drops as the RAF had lost so many transport pilots. As the ATA were regarded as non combatants he was not permitted to record the flights or take his flying log with him. He said the drop didn’t have parachutes so he was not convinced how intact it would be. Another anecdote, and similarly he was not permitted to record his flight in a Wellington carrying blood to an airfield during the Battle of the Bulge. He couldn’t find it in the fog and had to fly west until he could find an airfield to land on and then request the blood be transported. His log books are still in the family and an amazing bit of history. It records one day when he flew seven Spitfires from a factory to various airfields around the country.
A beautiful scene of actual events and surely there’s gonna be somebody in the comments that has something snotty to say about this
This made everything else worth it.
Beautiful to see. Especially the respect from the German troops for such a mission. Who said Humanity did not survive ?
House Harkonnen is dropping supplies? They’d never do that to the Fremen!
@@nicbracknell watch Dune: Part Two and you’ll see a familiar face from this series…
😂😂
After Great East Japan Earthquake in 2011,some US navy choppers from air craft carrier Ronald Reagan delivered foods and water and necessary
items to the peoples in Disaster area.
A bit of humanity especially from the Germans after the brutal experience of war
Le plus dur est devant eux ... Le retour a vie civile... Seul nous les militaires peuvent comprendre ça c'est le plus dur après un guerre! Quitté nos frères !
I cry every time I see the teenage girl get the orange because she reminds me of a wonderful Dutch woman and her husband I worked for in the early 1990s. Tony and Marianne Leconge immigrated to the U.S. in the 1950s. They were two of the most loving and interesting people I ever had the pleasure to know. As a teenager Mr. Leconge was taken prisoner by the Japanese in the Netherlands East Indies (now Indonesia). He had incredibly harrowing stories about his time in a Japanese concentration camp. Mrs. Leconge lived in the Hague, Netherlands. As a girl she witnessed the Nazi bombing of Rotterdam from the balcony of her home. Her family survived the Nazi occupation, but they were starving and surviving on tulip bulbs by the end of the war. She was there for Allied humanitarian food drops, so that's why the teenage girl with the orange reminds me of Mrs. Leconge and brings a tear to my eye. There's also a metaphor in that scene: The Dutch royal family is the House of Orange-Nassau, and the color used to celebrate the Dutch monarchy is orange.
B17s look so beautiful
Slight correction - The vast majority of these Aid Drops were made using B-24's since that aircraft was better suited for cargo.
I was stationed in the Netherlands during the late 70's and then did another tour of Europe shortly after the first one expired.
The profound gratitude of the Dutch is something to be seen, felt and heard because they, remember us very, very well.
The warmth and sincerity of their appreciation towards us has never been forgotten.
9th Infantry
7th SF Grp
US Army
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This was such an amazing series. Loved watching it. Now we just need one about the navy and it’ll be complete.
Nice little detail is that some of the AA crewmen appear to be just high schoolers. The Nazis towards the end of them war had lads straight from the Hitler Youth man those guns, often getting killed one way or another.
The Germans were using Hitler youth on anti-aircraft guns in late 42- early 43.
Shit is about to make me cry and im not dutch neither american
Me too! But I am Dutch and American. My Great Uncle was in WW2, Sergeant in the Army Airborne and fought in the Netherlands, Herman Dykstra.
Cheer's from Milwaukee Wisconsin 🇺🇲🧀🍻
@@Mark.G475 my great grandfather was an aerial mechanic in the British army. They were the iraqi levies. cheers from iraq ❤️🍺
@@chaldeankurdistani2322 it really was not that long ago, WW2. Best wishes and safe travels from Wisconsin 🐄
Mercy knows no nationality
Strange. Nobody is crying about how they are speaking so quietly inside a loud prop plane like they did for the Angelina Jolie directed bomber movie. It's as if they had a reason to cry about it.
Makers really to time to check what the Netherlands looks like. Even the architecture is correct, thanks. Doenst happen often.
Lets not mention the fact that the British, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders dropped food to the beleaguered Dutch...Not just Spielberg's Americans!!!...
The Dutch know :-) many you mentioned left something else too " Liberty Babies " ....
Op Manna: read Hans Onderwater’s book - Operation Manna/Chowhound, and his appearance on the “We Have Ways of Making You Talk” podcast…
Go make your own movie instead of whining...
This series is garbage . It’s full of mistakes and not historically accurate. Typical American Hollywood crap
@@ffjsbSo you're ok with inaccurate portrayals of history?
I wouldn't be surprised if you think the 2020 election was stolen, too ... 😂
It must have been heartwarming after years of raining down just death and destruction, to actually drop food and comfort to needy people.
American rations made Spam a delicacy around the world, especially the Phillipines.
Heroes 🥹♥️♥️
What a scene.
And just a few years later the USAF and the RAF were flying supplies into a blockaded Berlin.
Oh, the irony....
Any reference to Operation Manna by the RAF or the Canadian road supplies? Thought not
This was America !!!. Nothing to be compared to the greatest generation!
Was? America still helps when it can. Just recently they airdropped food in Gaza.
And no, I'm not American.
@@wnose yes, but the world stopped being grateful long ago
@@henrychu495 how do you know??? Did you conduct a poll in over 100 countries?
shame you piss on the boys graves in Normandy by electing the Orange Fuhrer!!, Thank God we take care of your boys all over Europe and honor them always for sure as hell you Americans are not
Not all of us are bad, I might be a millennial but my work ethic was instilled in me by the Greatest Generation. No matter what I show up and do what I say I’ll do. Don’t know if anyone else feels that way but I do it regardless
Manna From Heaven
Nice, very nice (but they flew just above stalling speed, with wheels and landing flaps down - an easy target, if someone “objects”, so hugely brave)
Read Hans Onderwater’s book (oh, please do): Operation Manna/Chowhound
And then, in the residential care home (with my Mother), there’s Connie (she’s Dutch, and 101😳), she lived through this - who says it’s all over…
This series can be put up to the same level as Band of Brothers. Fantastic work, and historically accurate as well. Finally some creators don't feel the real history behind these stories as a burden, but as a guideline.
Check out another Ww2 series SAS Rogue Heroes, one of the most expensive productions made by the BBC
"Urgh.. Hershey's... and plastic cheese... trust us to get the American food parcels!"
Just a joke folks.
They were all out of Cadbury and Brie! 😅
@@brucefrytz8611 to be fair, the dutch cheese is terrible lol.
01:02
I have the impression that the German AA gun crews are wondering 1) where the hell is the Luftwaffe, 2) why were they not warned before the bombers were within ear shot and in sight, 3) why have they not dropped a single bomb on them yet as they are expected to do.
P.S.:
Ah, yes. It was a truce. I see.
Sathorn soi Nung
Thank God for the United States of America.
Where is the Bendix Turrett? Why they didnt have that nose turrett?
2:01 That moment when you felt have 10 feet tall!
Lumpini. Pai nit noi. Ma thi sathorn , soi 1
0:51 Even so, Naz1 artillery were still pointed and ready to fire upon them ...
Three aircraft were lost: two in a collision and one due to engine fire.[8] Bullet holes were discovered in several aircraft upon their return, presumably the result of being fired upon by German soldiers who were unaware of, or violating, the ceasefire
According to Wikipedia
No actual official log I could find about any b17s being fired at but there is a report on 8th of may 1945 that did stated that roughly a dozen b17s returned with minor damage from flak and small arms fire
So it does sound like a few Germans broke the truce or as stated didn't know about the truce to start with
Allied agents negotiated with Reichskommissar Arthur Seyss-Inquart and a team of German officers. Among the participants were the Canadian future writer Farley Mowat and the German commander-in-chief, General Johannes Blaskowitz. It was agreed that the participating aircraft would not be fired upon within specified air corridors
And Arthur by his background seems like he would back down on a truce
Was hung in 1946 by the allies over many war crimes
Dove si possono acquistare le giacche originali degli aviatori americani.Grazie
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Bit low for Usaaf, they usually flew at 25+K!
They were dropping most of the food without chutes so they went in low.
Whats the name of the movie?
It's a series called Masters of the Air.
Casting is wrong all the pilots look well fed and nowhere near stressed and fatigued enough for postwar.
While the Incas & Zulus were still fighting almost barehanded the dutch invented the windmill😵😊
The crew had lifevests ...ORANJE.. 😊
There's no way they'd be able to see those waving people. Even at that speed and altitude they'd look like ants. Also they ruined a lot of good tulips with that sign....
Actually they could see them ( veterans talk about it all the time people on the top of the houses and buildings waving handkerchiefs ) , The tulips don't matter!! it is the Bulb we want and that's safe in the ground , You should see those big mowing machines who wreck the tulip field when the time comes to harvest the Bulbs...complete destruction of the Tulips...get educated
@@hillena considering the fact that during the Hunger Winter 1944-'45 tulip bulbs were eaten to prevent starvation I think this is a bit of artistic liberty taken by the script writers 😉.
@@browserrr1 The bulbs were so sharp they could not eat them for so long there is evidence the tulip fields were in bloom Dutch program called " Andere tijden " has footage
Why didn't they grow potatoes instead of all those flowers?
Maybe because there were no potatoes anymore. In 1944 it looked as if the Allies would advance quickly and the war would be over. But Arnhem was "a bridge too far" and the advance was stopped. Then a very harsh winter began, the hunger winter. Many have died of hunger. Luckily my parents survived this.
@@paulhom26491994? Did you mean 1944
in the far north Friesland en Groningen were a lot of potatoes the famine was in the cities
Also, Europe was considered Germany's larder. Much food was commandeered for the Wehrmacht or Germany itself.
Actually... the flower fields did not look like that anymore. Since the bulbs had already been eaten. It was that bad.
Okay why is Austin's character flying this mission? Since wasn't he a POW and even if he escape and got back to England they would not have him flying again and would had treated him and sent him back home.
The real guy did this, it's history.
well Rosie flew 56 missions If I recall ....and he was a POW also....
It was a humanitarian mission during a truce, just 8 days before the German surrender.
Continental Europeans and starving? That's a new one.
The Hunger Winter was the last (so far) famine in the Western world.
looks far too AI ...and what about OPERATION MANNA?...RAF DROPPED LOTS OF SUPPLIES
Kinda would've been nice to point out the fact that this was a) only possible because the Germans agreed not to fire on bombers so the dutch people could receive help and b) that it was not just Americans delivering aid but the majority was done by British and Canadian planes. Gratitude should go to all of those nations, for agreeing to halt the war to help out a country in despair.
Did you watch the clip? The first minute did exactly that, in pointing out the Nazis agreed to a truce. The Nazis didn't do it for altruistic reasons. Hitler was dead, and Nazi commanders in the Low Countries saw the writing on the wall. They had to agree to a truce as a way to increase their chances of NOT being hanged for war crimes. I don't think a special "thanks" should be offered to Nazis for suspending their genocide in the last days of a war they knew they were losing. And as far as air drops of humanitarian aid by the Brits and Canadians not being mentioned; this is a series about an American squadron. When a series about British and/or Canadian squadrons in WWII is made, then they may have time to mention it.
OPERAtion gazza rafah. Nothing much.
The writers forgot the chin turret of the B-17
Thats the b17f model which also was made in the plain metal finish
I'm pretty sure the writers don't do the SFX. I think that's the composer's job. Or maybe the Key Grip. I forget.
@@tristanjones3467Its just wrong for this stage in the war. I looked up the disposition of Fs to Gs in the 100th and there's so few Fs in use by even 44. It was lovely animation nevertheless, wrong, but lovely
the B-17G model didnt have them, they had a remote turret under the chin.
This never happened, come on.
Operations Chowhound and Manna. Get you some Mark Felton history video's!
aww how fitting the writers included a rainbow flag type outlay at the end to show solidarity. This is what it was all about, fighting evil to make the US what it is today. Thanks greatest generation
Gaza 2024, we never learn do we?
As an American man and a retired Army Infantryman, I’ll never stop feeling pride for the sacrifices our country and countrymen did during the war. For someone to not feel patriotism for their country means they have patriotism for a different country and are not American. I wonder how those men who flew those bombers during the war would feel about their sacrifices if they knew what would become of our country in 2024? I know that I’m pissed to see my nation flooded with legal and illegal immigrants that have no right being here and the America I love is coming to an end within my lifetime thanks to liberalism and some cowardly conservatives so it’s not just one sides fault, we deserve what’s coming to make people realize how precious individual Liberty really is. God be with us as we go through the coming pains.
Also a former infantryman and OIF veteran here. Sadly, re. WWII, we've all been lied to. Previous generations as well. We were simply fed a steady stream of lies and propaganda before and during the war. Our understanding of the Germans and their leader is almost completely backwards due to which 'chosen' group controls most of our information, and profits from the BS victimhood narrative of that period.
Unless you’re Native American everyone in the USA descends from immigrants, you may want to pick your words better and acknowledge your own history. Plenty of the US combatants in WWII were so-called immigrants or their first children, there was even a Japanese-American regiment that did their service and probably went much more severe hardships than you did, starting with having their families interned in what effectively were American concentration camps while risking their lives and dying overseas
The Greatest Generation fought for freedom and democracy. You might not like how things are now, but what would you do if you had power - would you limit other people's freedom to make the USA into what you want it to be? Or would you allow people to retain their freedom of choice?
ruclips.net/video/VKfYui95E10/видео.html a może o tym. Holandia w 1945 r.
the art of that german artist tells a different story of US air power, such as that painting of the boy getting shot up by p51s.
Actually, this scene annoyed me a lot when I watched the series because it showed the double standards the Allies had regarding which civilians they were willing to save; the Americans and the British made efforts and had no problems risking pilots and planes to deliver food for Dutch civilians, whereas for bombing the railroads to Auschwitz and other concentration camps to save Jews from extermination, "all of a sudden" they had no men and no planes to spare...
They always claim they did not know about the camps , escapees were not believed, in the very early time of war, The Americans had aerial pictures, yet they did nothing! BUT as a Dutch woman I am grateful for the drops with food , my grandparents were in Friesland and had plenty of food but the cities were starving
The concentration camps were damaging the German war effort by the time it might have been possible to bomb them, as the production from them didn't make up for the diversion of manpower and particularly rail transport. At the time Army Group Centre was collapsing on the Eastern Front more trains were taking people to camps than were delivering supplies to the frontlines.
There was a lot of arguments among the allies about the camps - from people who didn't believe it, to those who thought that the Germans would just shoot them anyway, and those who didn't want the deaths of prisoners on their hands. Winning the war and destroying Nazi Germany was the only way to stop the genocide.
And all the food came from where when again the Europeans decided to massacre each other for the millionth time?
Back when the US wasn't so messed up and getting ready for a civil war. End of 2024 is going to be some interesting times.
متفقین عملیات درسدن و هامبورگ را هم نشون بدن اگر جراتشو دارن که مطمئن هستم ندارن
Cheap propaganda. 😂😂 Main stream shit 📺💩
They were starving and flight of angels saved them.
Awful CGI