That's exactly why I hate the Stelvio. Drove it once with a K1600 (GTL!) under heavy rain and almost icy conditions and it wasn't fun AT ALL (although I managed to go up without any serious problem... except for the catastrophic weather). Cyclists by the hundreds, buses, vintage and sports cars driven by people who really shouldn't be there judging by their incompetence, tourists who would be well advised to do the same, you name it. There are so many inspiring and scenic roads in the Alps and elsewhere in Europe where you don't have to go through all this ridiculous drama!
stelvio for me will remain something unique, beautiful, a "conquest" like Everest for climbers, but I do not think I would do this route again considering the difficult traffic conditions and the risks that may occur.
Was there 3 years ago, rode up on a rented Honda NC750. Must have been my lucky day since there was very little traffic. The Honda though not having a lot of power was still the prefect bike for this road . It was light and nimble enough to take the switchbacks with ease. As for riding the Stelio on a K1600 or any heavy cruiser bike, that isn’t a good choice. In the video the rider who fell off was being a dick trying to thread though the stopped traffic.
Yeah, I didn't liked it too when I went to the Nürburgring Nordschleife on my '79 XT 500. Or when I drove USA coast-to-coast on my GasGas-Trial... For everyone who is not fluent in irony: It's a stupid idea to drive the Stelvio with a two-wheeled compact car. (aka K1600)
One way system has just been announced for the 2023 season for Stelvio, mainly for the reasons you mentioned, google it. Not too sure if it's good or bad, but I guess we'll see.
The guy on the 1600, wasn’t confident at all. He wasn’t balancing clutch, rear brake and throttle, and had both legs down, he couldn’t touch the ground. The main problem was, because of his high vis’ vest, he thought he could jump the queue. He should learn to be patient when all the other bikers are being patient.
yes, so maybe with a little patience it would have solved the situation more easily. Thank you for your pertinent opinion and I wish you good roads and dry asphalt!
He looks inexperienced. Ι think he was afraid to stop on an incline and then start from 0 kph to make a sharp uphill turn. Thought the momentum would help him make the turn
looks like he rented the bike . I also can't make sense of why the video maker is facing against traffic just sitting in the way . Way to many people that shouldn't be on that pass . The Stel is one of the more difficult pass to ride . Pick an easier pass
Ob schuld oder nicht schuld. Auch er verdient es geholfen zu bekommen. Jeder ist froh für Hilfe in solch einer Situation. Miserabele Charaktere wer da nicht hilft.
Kissebb motort feltudott volna állítani! Csak akkora motort vásárolj amekkorát feltudsz állítani egyedül! Ha öregszel, gyengülsz vedd észre! Ha testedzés ellenére nem erősödsz és tavasszal is gyenge vagy, legyél magadhoz őszinte: öregszel. Könnyebb motor vagy könnyebb út?
Generell mit allem einverstanden. Er wurde ja Geholfen, von den in der Kurve parkierten Touris, die die Hauptursache für den Mangelnden Maneuverplatz sind. soweit alles I.O. Generell kann ich nur auch noch einmal bemerken, das die Meisten Benutzer der Strasse in diesem Beitrag besser im Flachland blieben! Moto: Weit ausholen und dann die Kurve grosszügig schneiden um am Ausgang in der Wand zu enden. Am besten schon in der ersten Kurve, dann hat das Elend ein schnelles Ende und die Strasse wird frei für berufene. Ich und meine Honda VF750c 1st gen. 1982 sind da schon über 10 mal rüber. Mit Frau auf eigener "Black Widow" am Hinterrad. Aber sicher nie an Wochenenden oder Feiertagen! das gleiche gilt für den Gotthard / Susten / Grimsel sowie für Col des Mosses/pillon oder noch mehr für den Klausen oder die meisten Alpenpässe. Ich werd schon wahsinnig, wenn ich mit dem Firmenvan mit 3.5tonnen auf Serviceeinsatz in den Bergen, die Anfänger in jeder schärferen Kurve aussenrum beinahe zersäge.
What a nightmare. I don’t know why so many bikers think that big and crowded mountain passes with so many awkward switchbacks makes for great motorcycle riding.
If you know what you are doing these switchbacks are super fun. I have been at the Stelvio several times having loads of fun if you avoid the busys times. Many riders have very little experience and never train switchbacks properly - trying to just get through them. Train, make it an „art form“ and you will see how much satisfaction can come out of passing through them swift- and elegantly.
nella roba! ma non ti fai schifo? ti auguro di casere dalla moto il prima possibile poi vediamo.Dicono che il karma esiste percio’ quanto prima assaggerai l’asfalto.
It’s just a car park. No pleasure in that, but thanks for the video. This is the reason so many motorcyclists don’t like it. Must say unless you have rode it it’s very hard to appreciate how tight and steep the corners are
You are absolutely right, when you are in traffic like this it is much more difficult to control the motorcycle especially if it is heavy and you also have a passenger. But we learn a whole life from our own mistakes, many times! good roads!
Faccio il passo dello Stelvio almeno una volta all’anno. Ma vedere gente guidare così mi fa venire i brividi. Spero che da oggi facciano una patente specifica per lo Stelvio.
piuttosto bisogna dire il vero: sono incoscienti, pensano di essere in pista e mettono a repentaglio la loro sicurezza della quale non ce ne frega niente e soprattutto quella degli altri con i loro comportamenti da cretini; poi chi fa la fila ordinatamente è fesso?
Its easy to drop a heavy bike if you try to stop where the road camber is falling away especially if your legs are cold (and a bit older). Glad he is ok and kudos to the helpers.
A u say it is almost impossible to hold a big bike up when the road is lower and once the weight of the bike has gone past the point of no return the result is inevitable. I did notice the red car parked on the bend which was causing the obstruction and subsequent congestion and in turn the guy going round the waiting traffic. As they say “ Hindsight” is a wonderful thing!
He had No business being up there on a bike . Pushy and in a hurry just to drop the bike . Look at him tip toeing before the crash when in reality he didn't even need to stop in the first place . And the safety vest really tells what is going on .
Having seen this video I'm definitely not that bothered to do this pass especially with and ST1300. As folks have stated below there are many more enjoyable roads and passes in the Alps.
No, approaching a hairpin bend on the inside even though there is enough space on the left for a large radius, that's just plain incompetent driving. if he had approached the hairpin bend from the outside, he would not have ended up in oncoming traffic.
@@TMAX500WHITEMAX I have no problem hugging the inside curb all the way through the turn. If you can't make a U turn inside the lines of a parking spot don't do the Stel . Going against traffic is just plain disruptive to traffic.
@@whdbnrm3023 If there is no oncoming traffic on the opposite lane, you can do whatever you want. Driving hairpins very slowly, as non-skilled drivers do, is extremely boring for skilled drivers. It is not a sign of driving skill to drive the hairpin all the way in. It's very, very easy.
Das passt genau. 6 Zylinder, Warnweste, Topcase und vom Serpentinenfahren Null Ahnung. Der soll zuerst mal auf den Verkehrsübungsplatz mit einer 125er.😂
Stelvio rocks! Drove it a couple of times with my K1300GT and my wife on the back seat. Some great sausages and sauerkraut krat at Richards' at the top of the Stelvio.
@@Alexx975 nope , not even close. I done a lot of stupid things on bikes. But getting a bike that is too big and going on a challenging pass isn't one of them. That guy was way in over his head.
I remember when Clarkson and co went down the Stelvio pass in 2004 it must have been closed off so they could film the segment. It looks like a very busy road!
It's possible to get the stelvio pass all for your self. I went there in 2016, it was late in the evening so there was no traffic. I was basically alone on the road. The next morning it had a lot of traffic, but it wasn't overly crowded. You just have to choose the right time of day and avoid the typical vacation times of the year.
Why are the BMW bikers queuing? See the locals riding past that’s the whole point of having a motorcycle. The accident was caused by lack of judgement and skill.
Come on, guy's! The Stelvio is unique and gorgeous and you should just do it when you are in the neighbourhood! All three sides offer beautiful views and not too challenging roads. It's just not for beginners or autobahnburners and don't go there on a sunny sunday afternoon in july... ;-)
Everybody on that road hates that everyone else is on that road. Did it once on my R1200GSA with my then 12 year old son. Very happy we did. Not again any time soon though!
Stelvio seems to be a challenge too difficult for quite some BMW 'pilots'. Why? Age (of the biker, not the bike)? Weight (of the scrap metal, not the pillion)? Riding skills? I tend to favour the 3rd option. And I'd like to quote Greg Widmar running the MotoJitsu channel on RUclips: "(riding) Technique over Technology (the bike)". If you invest (one time) just a little share of your initial cost (to buy the bike) or definitely less than you spend on a yearly basis for insurance, tax, gas, consumables (like tires), service/maintenance... to improve your riding/cornering skills then you'll have much more fun, you will feel safer, and, if you want, you're much faster (in bends/hairpins - not on a straight stretch of the road every noob could go full throttle). Happy riding!
You have to keep moving and the regs up in those tightest corners. I have to say it looks no fun on a fat bike and jammed with traffic. So many other beautiful roads to explore.
What was he. Thinking about when everyone else is going nice and slow and being patient,, with such tight turns and the volume of traffic on the road,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland interesting to watch,
Dumping a beautiful and expensive bike like that is so painful, sorry it happened to you. I hope you're not too badly scratched. I shudder to think what fixing any scratches or cracks on the K1600 might cost to fix. I'll never ride that pass, thanks for the education. Stay safe.
A pretty good indicator of what is going wrong @ Stelvio (and to be honest on most other popular summits of the Alps, too): overcrowded, lack of skill (regardless if 2 or 4 wheels) and sheer "me 1st" thinking.
@@nocalsteve Yes I totally agree. I can't understand why so many of these people come to a full stop in the middle of the lane and just wait/block the road. Pull over to the side if you want to wait/watch. I would find this place very frustrating.
@meng aw-yong Well, that's the other thing. But he can't be blamed for the crash as the crashing biker must have seen the situation and it was his own fault trying to pass. The whole video is showing some kind of "sunday drivers" making odd decisions.
the Stelvio pass is beautiful but challenging, not a day goes by without some motorcyclist falling. The maneuver is decidedly risky and widening the bend so much, even to go up, is not the exact way. This summer many motorcyclists have cut my way (it's better not to talk about the drivers).
"Mein Freund", nicht jeder kann ein "Spezialist" im Motorradfahren sein, also du. Ich hoffe, wir haben dein "Über-Ich" nicht zu sehr gestört. Gute Straßen und ... FRIEDEN
I was in 2018 on the stelvio with my old r100 gs pd. I was very early on a wednesday there. Not too much traffic. So i rode it up and down several times. I loved it. But in such a traffic it makes no fun. This year I will try it with my road bike...wish all safe rides...ride on...
Stelvio - overrated, as you see in this video: often crowded (esp on weekend/holiday), nice view back from the top though. Pretty manageable if you don't try to filter through jams like this guy. I think his main fault was to not consider the sloping profile of the road which gave ground to his right foot too late to hold the bike. Stopping in the middle of pin curve is super tricky and you must definitely be prepared and stear to lean to the uphill side!
Yes you are right ! But maybe it was not possible due to the crowds, and I personally was with my wife in the back and very hard and unstable in that place, but it's good that there were those guys with photography and they helped him
@@ioanonut3131 zum Filmen hat es gereicht, zum Helfen nicht. Wenn das die Bikermentalität von heute ist, kann man sich für solche "Kollegen" nur noch fremdschämen. Besonders dann, wenn man nur 1 m dahinter steht, ...oder sich selbst sogar noch dabei filmt, ohne sich für seinen ..... Charakter zu schämen. Wo wäre das Problem gewesen, das eigene Bike kurz abzustellen (ja, das geht auch am Hang!) und kurz zu helfen? Jedem der nur dumm zuschaut ohne zu helfen, um seine Prinzessin nicht beim Filmen zu stören, dem wünsche ich mal dass er in die gleiche Situation gerät. Schade, einfach nur schade!
Beaucoup de propriétaires de grosses cylindrées chères n'ont pas les compétences pour les piloter dès que la situation devient difficile. Il en va de même pour les possesseurs de Ferrari ou de Porsche.
There’s a road in America called “going to the sun” it’s a royal pain in the ass on a bike because of the same issues. You do it a couple of times just to check the box 📦 then never go back on a bike. I know how you feel, it’s tough with a passenger on the back it just makes riding less fun doing mountain passes like this.
well punctuated, you're right but I think these are us bikers, we like challenges and adventure. Personally, my adrenaline remained on the 3rd place due to my "youth" for 56 years. Good roads !
one should not be foxes but respect others and stay in one's place thanks dear biker friend for the video you are among your subscribers waiting for your next video
Thank you very much for your appreciation, I'm glad you noticed that our colleague tried to be a little "fox" but unfortunately this is not always possible!
Stelvio is one of these places not interesting at all. Its combination of narow U-turns and straight roads right after each turn. in neverending story. Heavy bikes could be in trouble in every curve, especially while going downhill. Ive been there once and...... Ok..... Never more. There are many many places u can choose in Alps which are more beautiful, paronamatic and give you better ride.
What shocked me more was that there were so many other motorbike riders including the one operating the camera that did not stop and help out. Not nice at all. Solidarity is a nice thing folks...
Now if he just bought a bike that was a bit lighter than his house, he would've been fine regarding his bad judgement here... also long legs help a bit. Luckely he doesn't go down that hard.
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2:39, impatience and indecision, not a good combination in this situation. There's a whole van full of people, but nobody gets out to help, isn't mankind great.
E i 2 olandesi che parcheggiano la BMW Z4 in curva del tornante per fare le foto ?!? And the 2 Dutchmen who park the BMW Z4 in the bend of the hairpin to take pictures?!?
Hermoso recorrido,bellisimo los paisajes . Pero muy mal tanto el motociclista mas cercano al que tubo el inconveniente y horrible actitud la suya y de su copiloto ninguno fue a ayudarlo vergonzoso!
If you think this is bad try mt evans in america. No guard rails just as tight. At least as much traffic and the road has buckles and pot holes everywhere.
Mt. Evans, Colorado? Sounds like a tip 😊. A bit far from Central Europe. However, next time I'm in the States and on an acceptable bike (not a bagger) I'll give it a try!🎉
mai visto tanti rimbambiti (e non mi riferisco solo a quello che è caduto) condensati in un video così breve. non è meglio stare in pianura se non sapete guidare la moto?
Ja das ist schon blöd so ein Unfall aber leider muss ich auch sagen das einige Fahrer für eine große BMW oder ähnliches eigentlich zu kurze Beine haben , das heißt aufsteigen geht nur über Ständer und an der Kreuzung bzw beim Halt kommen sie nur mit den Zehen Spitzen auf den Boden aber für diese geht eben BMW GS zB fahren vor Vernunft Kauf
Il problema non è lo Stelvio…ma quelli che fanno lo Stelvio…in camper..in auto …in moto…io l’ho fatto (in moto)un paio di mesi fa…sulla stesso tornante,mi sono ritrovato un camper che faceva retromarcia …per curvare…non cadere è stato un miracolo…in questo caso invece,oltre alle colpe del motociclista (poteva fermarsi prima)credo che il ‘casino’lo abbiamo creato quelli con l’auto rossa ferma in curva…
...io non vedo proprio il problema a fare queste curve, fai i 30 se va bene, se uno ha problemi a superare, evitare ostacoli, fermarsi a queste velocità la moto non dovrebbe nemmeno averla. Quei due che cercano di far partire la moto da in mezzo alla strada con il pilota appena caduto (incapace ma ovviamente va aiutato); ma portala a lato, fa tranquillizzare il pilota e fa passare la gente prima invece di bloccare tutti creando ulteriori problemi. L'altro poi che parte in contromano e urla perchè non l'ha fatto passare....sei tu che parti in contromano che devi decidere meglio quando partire non gli altri che devono agevolare te che stai facendo una manovra oltre che pericolosa anche vietata, è partito mentre l'altra auto scendeva, aspettare 10 secondi no? Insomma c'era una bella banda di fenomeni in questo video. Percorso settimana scorsa senza nessun problema e non ho visto nessuno averne....forse questi sono quelli del week-end in cui c'è più traffico e i meno esperti possono avere difficoltà, eviterei di fare questi percorsi se non si sa governare un minimo il mezzo.
Purtroppo fermandosi in quel punto non riesci ad appoggiare piede perché trovi il vuoto dato dalla pendenza, a meno che uno abbia un'altezza superiore al 1.80
La colpa è sua che ha fatto un sorpasso da spaccone e invece ha fatto la figura del...... Tante che quelli del furgoncino non sono neanche scesi per aiutarlo
Fermate che questo già stava in panico all'idea di dover fare quel tornante. Non sia mai fosse sceso per aiutare l'altro biker, la moto la lasciava direttamente li.
Sorry for the bike, not for the driver! First he should have seen he has to wait, second he was absolutely unable to handle his bike. This is hard, dry tarmac, what should an offroader do in such situation on loose or slippery underground? I think stelvio is no fun when there is such traffic.
What kind of bikers are you? Why didn't you get off the bike and helped this guy? Your behavior is a shame. There was a time years ago where bikers helped each other.
Stelvio is probably the most commercial pass. And it's overrated. It's just a place where motorcyclists need to say they've been there and not to go back there again.
If you like riding hairpins because you have the proper riding skills / the proper riding technique then Stelvio is a top candidate amongst the passes in the central Alps. So many hairpins within acceptable range! Gorgeous! Awesome!! Other candidates in the vicinity are Umbrail, Maloja (which isn't a pass), Spluga. You could combine all in a 1-day tour. Unparalleled! And that's it. Which passes in the Dolomites, in Switzerland, or in France are known for more or more challenging hairpins/switchbacks? There's none that comes into my mind. 😊 Happy riding.
@@FxRiderST Well, in the past I liked to go from Bormio to Ponte di Legno as well. Then Covid came and during that time (too much money? funded by the EU?) the road has been completely repaired (Bormio to pass), partly even coated with a new layer of tarmac (the first km's from the pass down to Ponte). Since that - my fun level has dropped dramatically :D Why? I liked the cracks in the tarmac, the bumpy road, all that patchwork in the upper part of Passo di Gavia (looked like pancakes put on top/next to each other). And now? Smooth. Partly even straigthened. Highway feeling. More... suitable for Cruiser (if they can make it through those few hairpins on the Southern side). However, scenery is still great... Thx for sharing your favourite - and a good start in the 2024 season!
Never again! I made the same mistake, that is going on a popular twisty road in a famous USA park with my heavy 1200 cc BMW RT It has the same high slope gradient. I thought it was off-season time It was still full of cars, huge tour buses, vans, etc going about 1-5 mph with lots of stopping for many miles. I didn't drop my bike but it was my #1 worst experience ever.
Der Stelvio ist für mich einer der schönsten Motorradpässe. Für mich gilt: Nie am Wochenende und nur früh morgens oder ab 16 Uhr und man sollte vorher an kleineren Pässen Erfahrungen machen. Der verunfallte Fahrer macht so viele Fehler auf einmal, das konnte gar nicht gut gehen.
@@SteffW Ich habe einmal auf halbe Höhe eine Alpentribe getroffen. Um die 100 Kühen die Bergab gelaufen sind, aber nicht über die Straße. An jede Kurve warst du in einen Haufen Kühe drin. Alles auf Video, sonst glaubt es mir keiner.
Common problem on the Stelvio - too slow, heavy bike, steep and bank moment - that’s it use Thais pass not on weekends and it is not the pass for exercise
A mio parere la colpa è tutta del motociclista. Con una pendenza del genere è quantomeno probabile, per non dire certo, non trovare un punto di appoggio. Considerando anche la stazza della moto, è stato bdel tutto imprudente posizionarsi in quel punto. E certi errori di pagano caramente.
I did the Stelvio in 2018 and was amazed at the amount of traffic. Ok, it was the weekend, but it was ridiculous. There were cars, motorbikes, pushbikes, coaches, and minibuses. And clearly also a lot of people that were clueless when it came to navgating such a road. The traffic was constantly coming to a halt. The problem with this as a motorcyclist is when you are going around a very sharp right hand bend, the camber of the road on your inside, completely falls away. The guy in this video should have waited behind the other bike. With such a massive bike, there was no way that he was going to keep it up once he'd stopped. In my opinion, the pass should be one way only at peak times. There is no fun in riding it the way it is.
There is no room for that kind of silly move. Stelvio is not always crowded. I drove through it on Friday sometime around eight to nine in the evening and I only saw a couple of cars and one cyclist. Btw... Try next time through Passo Umbrail. That's a nicer way.
Die Serpentinenstraße am Passo di Stelvio werden immer wieder massiv unterschätzt mit grossen Maschinen. Dank meiner Honda mit DCT - Getriebe konnte ich schon in vielen Situationen mich voll auf die Strasse konzentrieren. Danke Honda.
Ja, Sie haben vollkommen recht, daher schien es mir, als ob er den "Elefanten" in der kritischen Situation, in der er fahrlässig gelandet ist, nur schwer meistern konnte! Ich hoffe, der "google translate" hilft uns weiter!
@@ioanonut3131 Mit einem "Elefanten" (ich habe einen der schwersten, den GTL, und bin damit auf hunderten Hochgebirgspässen problemlos gefahren) kann man so ein Pass auch hochfahren, nur nicht SO. Wahnsinn pur eigentlich...
@@guywerb Ich bin überzeugt, dass man mit einem schweren Motor klettern kann (und meiner ist ziemlich schwierig ST1300 Paneuropäisch), aber es braucht viel Aufmerksamkeit und .... Geduld!Haben Sie gute Straßen und wie man in Rumänien sagt: trockener Asphalt!
@@ioanonut3131 HEHEHE. Die PAN European ist die einfachste Maschine die es gibt. Ich habe eine ST1100 und ich liebe sie. Der Tank ist nicht oben drauf wo man es vermutet. Der ist unter dem Arsch, auf die höhe des Motors. Das gesamte Gewicht ist Asphalt nahe. Um die Maschine zu lenken braucht man die Hände nicht.
That's the loudest I've laughed in years, what was he thinking, could he not see the stopped bikes and the hairpin and if he looked over his shoulder the vehicles coming down!!! Shame he binned such a nice bike.
Bin im Juli mehreren K1600 von Italien kommend gefolgt, ich hielt immer 100 Meter Abstand, mehrere Szenen noch Haarstreubender😢😢😢 dafür nach der Mautstation die großen Spielen😢, leider
Wenn jemandem etwas passiert, sollte man m. E. helfen anstatt zu filmen. Wie tief sind wir gesunken. Da kann man dann beim Mopedfahren zuküftig auch gerne das grüßen sein lassen.
Kam es Ihnen so vor, als hätte ich die Veranstaltung auf eine besondere Art und Weise gefilmt!? Wenn Sie sich den Film aufmerksam angesehen hätten, wäre Ihnen aufgefallen, dass ich mit einem Passagier auf der Rückbank und geladenem Motor nicht sicher anhalten konnte. Und die Kamera war auf dem Helm meiner Frau und ich habe nicht zum Vergnügen fotografiert Ich habe hier nur gepostet, um zu zeigen, was manche Menschen in Eile in Gegenden tun, in denen der Verkehr Geduld erfordert. Dir geht es wahrscheinlich wie dem K1600 und du kritisierst, ohne es zu wissen! Und wenn man den Film bis zum Ende gesehen hat, konnte man sehen, dass ich versucht habe, einen sicheren Ort zum Anhalten zu suchen, aber in der Zwischenzeit haben ihm andere geholfen. Es ist einfach, vor dem Fernseher zu reden! Frieden! und gute Straßen
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Such a cool stunt at 2:10 ! 😅 He tried to show all others the ropes and then... failed. That's why I love the Stelvio. Priceless. Thx for sharing.
That's exactly why I hate the Stelvio. Drove it once with a K1600 (GTL!) under heavy rain and almost icy conditions and it wasn't fun AT ALL (although I managed to go up without any serious problem... except for the catastrophic weather). Cyclists by the hundreds, buses, vintage and sports cars driven by people who really shouldn't be there judging by their incompetence, tourists who would be well advised to do the same, you name it. There are so many inspiring and scenic roads in the Alps and elsewhere in Europe where you don't have to go through all this ridiculous drama!
stelvio for me will remain something unique, beautiful, a "conquest" like Everest for climbers, but I do not think I would do this route again considering the difficult traffic conditions and the risks that may occur.
I was there end of august, no problem at all! Beautiful road and scenery!
Was there 3 years ago, rode up on a rented Honda NC750. Must have been my lucky day since there was very little traffic. The Honda though not having a lot of power was still the prefect bike for this road . It was light and nimble enough to take the switchbacks with ease. As for riding the Stelio on a K1600 or any heavy cruiser bike, that isn’t a good choice. In the video the rider who fell off was being a dick trying to thread though the stopped traffic.
Yeah, I didn't liked it too when I went to the Nürburgring Nordschleife on my '79 XT 500. Or when I drove USA coast-to-coast on my GasGas-Trial...
For everyone who is not fluent in irony: It's a stupid idea to drive the Stelvio with a two-wheeled compact car. (aka K1600)
One way system has just been announced for the 2023 season for Stelvio, mainly for the reasons you mentioned, google it. Not too sure if it's good or bad, but I guess we'll see.
The guy on the 1600, wasn’t confident at all. He wasn’t balancing clutch, rear brake and throttle, and had both legs down, he couldn’t touch the ground. The main problem was, because of his high vis’ vest, he thought he could jump the queue. He should learn to be patient when all the other bikers are being patient.
yes, so maybe with a little patience it would have solved the situation more easily. Thank you for your pertinent opinion and I wish you good roads and dry asphalt!
He looks inexperienced. Ι think he was afraid to stop on an incline and then start from 0 kph to make a sharp uphill turn. Thought the momentum would help him make the turn
Unfähige Idioten auf Motorrädern inklusive Kamerafahrer. Driving Licence wegnehmen!
looks like he rented the bike . I also can't make sense of why the video maker is facing against traffic just sitting in the way . Way to many people that shouldn't be on that pass . The Stel is one of the more difficult pass to ride . Pick an easier pass
@@whdbnrm3023 Bang on!👍
Ob schuld oder nicht schuld. Auch er verdient es geholfen zu bekommen. Jeder ist froh für Hilfe in solch einer Situation. Miserabele Charaktere wer da nicht hilft.
so ist es, früher ist man abgestiegen und hat geholfen. Heute wird nur noch geglotzt und gefilmt.
@@micha05111964 in dem Film "Die Feuerzangenbowle" gibt es diesen Satz der voll für Sie zutrifft:
"Ba, watt habt ihr für e'ne fiese Charakter!"
Kissebb motort feltudott volna állítani! Csak akkora motort vásárolj amekkorát feltudsz állítani egyedül! Ha öregszel, gyengülsz vedd észre! Ha testedzés ellenére nem erősödsz és tavasszal is gyenge vagy, legyél magadhoz őszinte: öregszel. Könnyebb motor vagy könnyebb út?
Generell mit allem einverstanden. Er wurde ja Geholfen, von den in der Kurve parkierten Touris, die die Hauptursache für den Mangelnden Maneuverplatz sind. soweit alles I.O.
Generell kann ich nur auch noch einmal bemerken, das die Meisten Benutzer der Strasse in diesem Beitrag besser im Flachland blieben! Moto: Weit ausholen und dann die Kurve grosszügig schneiden um am Ausgang in der Wand zu enden. Am besten schon in der ersten Kurve, dann hat das Elend ein schnelles Ende und die Strasse wird frei für berufene.
Ich und meine Honda VF750c 1st gen. 1982 sind da schon über 10 mal rüber. Mit Frau auf eigener "Black Widow" am Hinterrad. Aber sicher nie an Wochenenden oder Feiertagen! das gleiche gilt für den Gotthard / Susten / Grimsel sowie für Col des Mosses/pillon oder noch mehr für den Klausen oder die meisten Alpenpässe.
Ich werd schon wahsinnig, wenn ich mit dem Firmenvan mit 3.5tonnen auf Serviceeinsatz in den Bergen, die Anfänger in jeder schärferen Kurve aussenrum beinahe zersäge.
A prepotenza di questo motociclista, che vuole passare a tutti i costi dove gli altri sono fermi in attesa, deve essere punita.
Hello! Would it be okay to use it in compilations and maybe on some of ours Social Networks? You will get full credit for it. Thanks
What a nightmare.
I don’t know why so many bikers think that big and crowded mountain passes with so many awkward switchbacks makes for great motorcycle riding.
Seems quite boring to wait for all these turns indeed. Also, if they just keep up the pace, you don't fall down that easily :)
If you know what you are doing these switchbacks are super fun. I have been at the Stelvio several times having loads of fun if you avoid the busys times. Many riders have very little experience and never train switchbacks properly - trying to just get through them. Train, make it an „art form“ and you will see how much satisfaction can come out of passing through them swift- and elegantly.
You just need to pick your time and avoid the traffic jams. Fridays can be good.
agreed!
@@georgmankel6845 What is your switchback technique?
nessuno dei motociclisti si e’ mosso per aiutarlo …bella roba!
Uno con una moto del genere andava anche preso a calci
@@thefull7288 il motivo?
@@iliomotoviaggiatore202 il motivo è che se non sai fa a scopare non ti prendi una pornostar come moglie.
The Full, temo tu abbia più lingua che cervello
nella roba! ma non ti fai schifo? ti auguro di casere dalla moto il prima possibile poi vediamo.Dicono che il karma esiste percio’ quanto prima assaggerai l’asfalto.
It’s just a car park. No pleasure in that, but thanks for the video. This is the reason so many motorcyclists don’t like it. Must say unless you have rode it it’s very hard to appreciate how tight and steep the corners are
You are absolutely right, when you are in traffic like this it is much more difficult to control the motorcycle especially if it is heavy and you also have a passenger. But we learn a whole life from our own mistakes, many times!
good roads!
Faccio il passo dello Stelvio almeno una volta all’anno. Ma vedere gente guidare così mi fa venire i brividi. Spero che da oggi facciano una patente specifica per lo Stelvio.
una valanga di gente che finisce in contromano, poi si spaventa e cade
Tutta gente improvvisata motociclista.ormai sono tutti pensionati benestanti con voglia di prendere una moto
piuttosto bisogna dire il vero: sono incoscienti, pensano di essere in pista e mettono a repentaglio la loro sicurezza della quale non ce ne frega niente e soprattutto quella degli altri con i loro comportamenti da cretini; poi chi fa la fila ordinatamente è fesso?
@@luca8939 Allora bisogna essere tutti 25enni "fenomeni" da pista ? Dimenticavo ... INFALLIBILI nel senso che non sbagliano mai !! 😡
Its easy to drop a heavy bike if you try to stop where the road camber is falling away especially if your legs are cold (and a bit older). Glad he is ok and kudos to the helpers.
A u say it is almost impossible to hold a big bike up when the road is lower and once the weight of the bike has gone past the point of no return the result is inevitable. I did notice the red car parked on the bend which was causing the obstruction and subsequent congestion and in turn the guy going round the waiting traffic. As they say “ Hindsight” is a wonderful thing!
He had No business being up there on a bike . Pushy and in a hurry just to drop the bike . Look at him tip toeing before the crash when in reality he didn't even need to stop in the first place . And the safety vest really tells what is going on .
Yeah, had mine for 2 hours and stopped .25 miles from my house down hill left turn. Down I went!! Learned alot....
Especially when you don't know how to ride
tall heavy bike stopped in a high-banked turn. result follows. on a smaller 250 or 300cc bike he woulda been fine.
Quanto traffico! In che periodo e giorno della settimana?
Hi,may I include this in a compilation? It'll be credited and linked back to your channel
yes, of course, you can use the film if you think it helps you and those who will watch your post. Good luck! and I thank you
@@ioanonut3131 Thanks. I appreciate it
CRASH???? NO I think "DROP" is the right word for it. Been there done than ... Once it gets to that point there is no saving it.
Having seen this video I'm definitely not that bothered to do this pass especially with and ST1300. As folks have stated below there are many more enjoyable roads and passes in the Alps.
Wow that looks like fun "riding" the stelvio 🤔
Too much traffic, too many drivers who can't drive such streets...
He should have waited his turn and then he'd have gotten a view at the hairpin and plan accordingly
No, approaching a hairpin bend on the inside even though there is enough space on the left for a large radius, that's just plain incompetent driving. if he had approached the hairpin bend from the outside, he would not have ended up in oncoming traffic.
@@TMAX500WHITEMAX I have no problem hugging the inside curb all the way through the turn. If you can't make a U turn inside the lines of a parking spot don't do the Stel . Going against traffic is just plain disruptive to traffic.
@@whdbnrm3023 If there is no oncoming traffic on the opposite lane, you can do whatever you want. Driving hairpins very slowly, as non-skilled drivers do, is extremely boring for skilled drivers. It is not a sign of driving skill to drive the hairpin all the way in. It's very, very easy.
@TMAX500WHITEMAX the chap on the k1600 never looked, if he had he'd have seen the white van and waited
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Cambiata la frizione quando sei arrivato a casa?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Das passt genau. 6 Zylinder, Warnweste, Topcase und vom Serpentinenfahren Null Ahnung. Der soll zuerst mal auf den Verkehrsübungsplatz mit einer 125er.😂
Genau.Freie Fahrt für 6Zylinder.😂
Stelvio rocks! Drove it a couple of times with my K1300GT and my wife on the back seat. Some great sausages and sauerkraut krat at Richards' at the top of the Stelvio.
Front brake...Handlebars turned...Down it goes ! Like a magnet to metal :)
Yep
Yes, we all been there in some point in time...
@@Alexx975 nope , not even close. I done a lot of stupid things on bikes. But getting a bike that is too big and going on a challenging pass isn't one of them. That guy was way in over his head.
Devi prendere la moto più pesante così ni cadi😮😮
Hi! Would it be possible to use this video for my upcoming work? Thank you for your response ! :)
I remember when Clarkson and co went down the Stelvio pass in 2004 it must have been closed off so they could film the segment. It looks like a very busy road!
It's possible to get the stelvio pass all for your self. I went there in 2016, it was late in the evening so there was no traffic. I was basically alone on the road. The next morning it had a lot of traffic, but it wasn't overly crowded. You just have to choose the right time of day and avoid the typical vacation times of the year.
Why are the BMW bikers queuing? See the locals riding past that’s the whole point of having a motorcycle. The accident was caused by lack of judgement and skill.
They just take up too much space with its moving living rooms
Glad ur ok, road angle & traffic can be tough. Dropped mine as well, friction zone is our friend.
Come on, guy's! The Stelvio is unique and gorgeous and you should just do it when you are in the neighbourhood! All three sides offer beautiful views and not too challenging roads. It's just not for beginners or autobahnburners and don't go there on a sunny sunday afternoon in july... ;-)
Ho visto troppi motociclisti della domenica 😂😂😂😂
Hi there, can I feature your clip for my youtube shorts and video compilation? Full credit ofc...
Everybody on that road hates that everyone else is on that road. Did it once on my R1200GSA with my then 12 year old son. Very happy we did. Not again any time soon though!
Stelvio seems to be a challenge too difficult for quite some BMW 'pilots'.
Why? Age (of the biker, not the bike)? Weight (of the scrap metal, not the pillion)? Riding skills? I tend to favour the 3rd option.
And I'd like to quote Greg Widmar running the MotoJitsu channel on RUclips: "(riding) Technique over Technology (the bike)".
If you invest (one time) just a little share of your initial cost (to buy the bike) or definitely less than you spend on a yearly basis for insurance, tax, gas, consumables (like tires), service/maintenance... to improve your riding/cornering skills then you'll have much more fun, you will feel safer, and, if you want, you're much faster (in bends/hairpins - not on a straight stretch of the road every noob could go full throttle).
Happy riding!
You have to keep moving and the regs up in those tightest corners. I have to say it looks no fun on a fat bike and jammed with traffic. So many other beautiful roads to explore.
What was he. Thinking about when everyone else is going nice and slow and being patient,, with such tight turns and the volume of traffic on the road,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland interesting to watch,
Dumping a beautiful and expensive bike like that is so painful, sorry it happened to you. I hope you're not too badly scratched. I shudder to think what fixing any scratches or cracks on the K1600 might cost to fix. I'll never ride that pass, thanks for the education. Stay safe.
Great how the other bikes sat there did nothing
Steep hills and tight curves makes it difficult to park your bike safely without risking it to fall down, you are not a biker yourself I guess
@@bjrnarthur9272 over 30 obviously you can't park a bike on a slope go get lesson's
@@bjrnarthur9272 It's a shame that the biker didn't help. He was busy with filming. Perhaps he did not find the right app on his mobile to help.
A pretty good indicator of what is going wrong @ Stelvio (and to be honest on most other popular summits of the Alps, too): overcrowded, lack of skill (regardless if 2 or 4 wheels) and sheer "me 1st" thinking.
So sieht das aus wenn man am einem schönen Wochenende dort hoch fährt - habe ich auch schon erlebt. Entspannend ist das nicht gerade.
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Well if he wasn’t so impatient overtaking the other biker who was waiting he might not have dropped it
My thoughts as well. He must be only looking 10 feet in front too as he pooped his pants on seeing the van.
The other motorcycle had no reason to stop in the middle of the road blocking traffic. He should have kept going.
@@nocalsteve Yes I totally agree. I can't understand why so many of these people come to a full stop in the middle of the lane and just wait/block the road. Pull over to the side if you want to wait/watch. I would find this place very frustrating.
@meng aw-yong Well, that's the other thing. But he can't be blamed for the crash as the crashing biker must have seen the situation and it was his own fault trying to pass. The whole video is showing some kind of "sunday drivers" making odd decisions.
@@nocalsteve Tip Toeing all the
the Stelvio pass is beautiful but challenging, not a day goes by without some motorcyclist falling. The maneuver is decidedly risky and widening the bend so much, even to go up, is not the exact way. This summer many motorcyclists have cut my way (it's better not to talk about the drivers).
Exact same thing happened to me on the Grossglockner with a R1150GS Adventure. Fortunately, only broke a turn signal on my friend's bke. LOL
War da dilettanten treffen an dem Tag oder wie, wie viele sind da unterwegs die null plan haben inkl. Dem filmer
"Mein Freund", nicht jeder kann ein "Spezialist" im Motorradfahren sein, also du. Ich hoffe, wir haben dein "Über-Ich" nicht zu sehr gestört. Gute Straßen und ... FRIEDEN
I was in 2018 on the stelvio with my old r100 gs pd. I was very early on a wednesday there. Not too much traffic. So i rode it up and down several times. I loved it. But in such a traffic it makes no fun. This year I will try it with my road bike...wish all safe rides...ride on...
2 Autofahrer helfen.
2 Biker schauen zu.
Schande!
Selbst schon mal geholfen? Oder den Verkehr geregelt damit andere helfen können?
@@beartrader_redartraeb Ja, aber darauf brauche ich mir aufgrund meines erlernten Berufs nichts einzubilden.
Stelvio - overrated, as you see in this video: often crowded (esp on weekend/holiday), nice view back from the top though.
Pretty manageable if you don't try to filter through jams like this guy.
I think his main fault was to not consider the sloping profile of the road which gave ground to his right foot too late to hold the bike. Stopping in the middle of pin curve is super tricky and you must definitely be prepared and stear to lean to the uphill side!
No bikers to help him !!!!?..... Where is the biker solidarity ? !!!..... 🤢
Yes you are right ! But maybe it was not possible due to the crowds, and I personally was with my wife in the back and very hard and unstable in that place, but it's good that there were those guys with photography and they helped him
@@ioanonut3131 zum Filmen hat es gereicht, zum Helfen nicht. Wenn das die Bikermentalität von heute ist, kann man sich für solche "Kollegen" nur noch fremdschämen. Besonders dann, wenn man nur 1 m dahinter steht, ...oder sich selbst sogar noch dabei filmt, ohne sich für seinen ..... Charakter zu schämen. Wo wäre das Problem gewesen, das eigene Bike kurz abzustellen (ja, das geht auch am Hang!) und kurz zu helfen? Jedem der nur dumm zuschaut ohne zu helfen, um seine Prinzessin nicht beim Filmen zu stören, dem wünsche ich mal dass er in die gleiche Situation gerät. Schade, einfach nur schade!
Beaucoup de propriétaires de grosses cylindrées chères n'ont pas les compétences pour les piloter dès que la situation devient difficile. Il en va de même pour les possesseurs de Ferrari ou de Porsche.
There’s a road in America called “going to the sun” it’s a royal pain in the ass on a bike because of the same issues. You do it a couple of times just to check the box 📦 then never go back on a bike. I know how you feel, it’s tough with a passenger on the back it just makes riding less fun doing mountain passes like this.
well punctuated, you're right but I think these are us bikers, we like challenges and adventure.
Personally, my adrenaline remained on the 3rd place due to my "youth" for 56 years.
Good roads !
one should not be foxes but respect others and stay in one's place
thanks dear biker friend for the video
you are among your subscribers waiting for your next video
Thank you very much for your appreciation, I'm glad you noticed that our colleague tried to be a little "fox" but unfortunately this is not always possible!
Stelvio is one of these places not interesting at all. Its combination of narow U-turns and straight roads right after each turn. in neverending story. Heavy bikes could be in trouble in every curve, especially while going downhill. Ive been there once and...... Ok..... Never more. There are many many places u can choose in Alps which are more beautiful, paronamatic and give you better ride.
What shocked me more was that there were so many other motorbike riders including the one operating the camera that did not stop and help out. Not nice at all. Solidarity is a nice thing folks...
very hard to park a motorcicle on a road/slope like that. You risk to drop it.
Sono stata in questi bei posti quando abitavo in Veneto. In invervo andavamo a sciare con gli amici. 🏂⛷️🏂🏂🏂⛷️
Now if he just bought a bike that was a bit lighter than his house, he would've been fine regarding his bad judgement here... also long legs help a bit. Luckely he doesn't go down that hard.
This bikes are so pointless to me…
Hey mate, would it be nice to feature your clip in my next episode? Credited of course (watermark and link to your channel).
No problem! you can use it, at least it will be educational for some!
Thanks a lot!@@ioanonut3131
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video in one of my editions? I leave the name
and link in the description. Thank you for your
attention
I'm glad you liked it and find this clip useful, so ... go ahead and use it as you see fit! success and good roads.!
@@ioanonut3131 thank u mate, I will let u know when I use it !
Hey mate, your clip is featured in the edit "20 MINUTES OF MOTORCYCLE CRASHES,XTREME, SCARY & HECTIC MOTORCYCLECRASHES [Ep.#26]",Thanks for being a part of it!
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2:39, impatience and indecision, not a good combination in this situation. There's a whole van full of people, but nobody gets out to help, isn't mankind great.
Too busy laughing I expect.
People blaming the Stelvio Pass. Lol. He should have spent some of his money on riding lessons, or a smaller bike that he can handle safely.
E i 2 olandesi che parcheggiano la BMW Z4 in curva del tornante per fare le foto ?!?
And the 2 Dutchmen who park the BMW Z4 in the bend of the hairpin to take pictures?!?
L'importante è che non si sia fatto male In ogni caso gli serve di lezione è uno dei soliti fenomeni
Wenn ich so fahren würde, würde ich ans aufhören denken.
Hermoso recorrido,bellisimo los paisajes . Pero muy mal tanto el motociclista mas cercano al que tubo el inconveniente y horrible actitud la suya y de su copiloto ninguno fue a ayudarlo vergonzoso!
A los imprudentes hay que dejarlos que se hagan solo en la vida
Verda el " motero "sigue grabando y el de la moto del al lado ni se baja ayudar
If you think this is bad try mt evans in america. No guard rails just as tight. At least as much traffic and the road has buckles and pot holes everywhere.
Mt. Evans, Colorado? Sounds like a tip 😊. A bit far from Central Europe. However, next time I'm in the States and on an acceptable bike (not a bagger) I'll give it a try!🎉
mai visto tanti rimbambiti (e non mi riferisco solo a quello che è caduto) condensati in un video così breve. non è meglio stare in pianura se non sapete guidare la moto?
Obviamente...
Davvero parole sante... Che imbastiti meglio che guidano un ciao
Ja das ist schon blöd so ein Unfall aber leider muss ich auch sagen das einige Fahrer für eine große BMW oder ähnliches eigentlich zu kurze Beine haben , das heißt aufsteigen geht nur über Ständer und an der Kreuzung bzw beim Halt kommen sie nur mit den Zehen Spitzen auf den Boden aber für diese geht eben BMW GS zB fahren vor Vernunft Kauf
Complimenti ,quando ci incrociamo ci salutiamo con un gesto, quando invece abbiamo bisogno facciamo finta di niente
Che giorno era?
Era un giovedì 2 settembre di quest'anno!
The rider are so eager to be infront he now understand follow the queue is paramount important. Lesson should be learned.
Il problema non è lo Stelvio…ma quelli che fanno lo Stelvio…in camper..in auto …in moto…io l’ho fatto (in moto)un paio di mesi fa…sulla stesso tornante,mi sono ritrovato un camper che faceva retromarcia …per curvare…non cadere è stato un miracolo…in questo caso invece,oltre alle colpe del motociclista (poteva fermarsi prima)credo che il ‘casino’lo abbiamo creato quelli con l’auto rossa ferma in curva…
...io non vedo proprio il problema a fare queste curve, fai i 30 se va bene, se uno ha problemi a superare, evitare ostacoli, fermarsi a queste velocità la moto non dovrebbe nemmeno averla.
Quei due che cercano di far partire la moto da in mezzo alla strada con il pilota appena caduto (incapace ma ovviamente va aiutato); ma portala a lato, fa tranquillizzare il pilota e fa passare la gente prima invece di bloccare tutti creando ulteriori problemi.
L'altro poi che parte in contromano e urla perchè non l'ha fatto passare....sei tu che parti in contromano che devi decidere meglio quando partire non gli altri che devono agevolare te che stai facendo una manovra oltre che pericolosa anche vietata, è partito mentre l'altra auto scendeva, aspettare 10 secondi no?
Insomma c'era una bella banda di fenomeni in questo video.
Percorso settimana scorsa senza nessun problema e non ho visto nessuno averne....forse questi sono quelli del week-end in cui c'è più traffico e i meno esperti possono avere difficoltà, eviterei di fare questi percorsi se non si sa governare un minimo il mezzo.
Un fenómeno. 👏
You HAVE TO look forward to the upcoming traffic, that's what he clearly didn't. Just at the moment itself he saw the van.
Purtroppo fermandosi in quel punto non riesci ad appoggiare piede perché trovi il vuoto dato dalla pendenza, a meno che uno abbia un'altezza superiore al 1.80
Sì, hai molto ragione! è proprio quello che è successo!
La colpa è sua che ha fatto un sorpasso da spaccone e invece ha fatto la figura del...... Tante che quelli del furgoncino non sono neanche scesi per aiutarlo
@@antoninodistefano1366 aveva fretta di cadere 🤣🤣🤣
@@antoninodistefano1366
probabilmente non era in grado di fermarsi...
Che vedo. Hanno aiutato il biker due ragazzi che non erano manco motociclisti. Tutti gli altri si so grattati. Spero che il prossimo giro sia a voi
Concordo....nemmeno un motociclista si è fermato...o meglio... è sceso dalla moto!!!
Non glielo auguro a nessuno ma un menefreghismo del genere è proprio brutto
buona sera🖐
Proprio vero! Tra motociclisti bisognerebbe essere sempre solidali ma.... È cambiata la società purtroppo
Fermate che questo già stava in panico all'idea di dover fare quel tornante. Non sia mai fosse sceso per aiutare l'altro biker, la moto la lasciava direttamente li.
Da hat wohl die Warnweste versagt.😅😂🤣
I wouldn't call that a "CRASH"! lol. Clearly click bait video title. He just dropped it on the road camber.
as soon as he touched the front brake she dropped him like a sack of spuds
😂
Thanks allot for the people the help him🤩
Sorry for the bike, not for the driver! First he should have seen he has to wait, second he was absolutely unable to handle his bike. This is hard, dry tarmac, what should an offroader do in such situation on loose or slippery underground?
I think stelvio is no fun when there is such traffic.
Dalle immagini sembra facile e in piano,invece quelle curve sono inclinate e se cerchi l'appoggio cadere è un'attimo.
What kind of bikers are you?
Why didn't you get off the bike and helped this guy?
Your behavior is a shame.
There was a time years ago where bikers helped each other.
Stelvio is probably the most commercial pass. And it's overrated. It's just a place where motorcyclists need to say they've been there and not to go back there again.
There are thousands of passes like it
If you like riding hairpins because you have the proper riding skills / the proper riding technique then Stelvio is a top candidate amongst the passes in the central Alps. So many hairpins within acceptable range! Gorgeous! Awesome!!
Other candidates in the vicinity are Umbrail, Maloja (which isn't a pass), Spluga. You could combine all in a 1-day tour. Unparalleled!
And that's it. Which passes in the Dolomites, in Switzerland, or in France are known for more or more challenging hairpins/switchbacks? There's none that comes into my mind. 😊 Happy riding.
@@beartrader_redartraeb Passo Gavia is my favorite in Italian Alps
@@FxRiderST Well, in the past I liked to go from Bormio to Ponte di Legno as well. Then Covid came and during that time (too much money? funded by the EU?) the road has been completely repaired (Bormio to pass), partly even coated with a new layer of tarmac (the first km's from the pass down to Ponte).
Since that - my fun level has dropped dramatically :D
Why? I liked the cracks in the tarmac, the bumpy road, all that patchwork in the upper part of Passo di Gavia (looked like pancakes put on top/next to each other). And now? Smooth. Partly even straigthened. Highway feeling. More... suitable for Cruiser (if they can make it through those few hairpins on the Southern side).
However, scenery is still great... Thx for sharing your favourite - and a good start in the 2024 season!
new ride no shame in that . good post to learn from
Never again! I made the same mistake, that is going on a popular twisty road in a famous USA park with my heavy 1200 cc BMW RT It has the same high slope gradient. I thought it was off-season time It was still full of cars, huge tour buses, vans, etc going about 1-5 mph with lots of stopping for many miles. I didn't drop my bike but it was my #1 worst experience ever.
Ich war letzte Jahr dort Geduld ist der Schlüssel zum Erfolg
Nur Traurig mit K do fahren
Der Stelvio ist für mich einer der schönsten Motorradpässe. Für mich gilt: Nie am Wochenende und nur früh morgens oder ab 16 Uhr und man sollte vorher an kleineren Pässen Erfahrungen machen. Der verunfallte Fahrer macht so viele Fehler auf einmal, das konnte gar nicht gut gehen.
Vollkommene Gerechtigkeit, faire Beobachtung!
trotzdem hätte man helfen können. Ich wäre abgestiegen und hätte ihm geholfen.
Gut zu wissen, Danke. So viel Verkehr wie in dem Video brauch ich nicht und hatte ich auch noch nie.
@@SteffW Ich habe einmal auf halbe Höhe eine Alpentribe getroffen. Um die 100 Kühen die Bergab gelaufen sind, aber nicht über die Straße. An jede Kurve warst du in einen Haufen Kühe drin. Alles auf Video, sonst glaubt es mir keiner.
Must be a beautiful place in winter when there is no one around!
@@johnzenkin1344 you kinda missed the point but regardless, there's not much a good old mountaineering boot can't handle!
@@johnzenkin1344 jajaja totalmente de acuerdo!!
Ja im Winter kannst du da auf 2 Rädern mit Schneeketten rauffahren und bist ganz allein
Oh man kauf dir ein leichteres motorrad 😅
Common problem on the Stelvio - too slow, heavy bike, steep and bank moment - that’s it use Thais pass not on weekends and it is not the pass for exercise
A mio parere la colpa è tutta del motociclista.
Con una pendenza del genere è quantomeno probabile, per non dire certo, non trovare un punto di appoggio.
Considerando anche la stazza della moto, è stato bdel tutto imprudente posizionarsi in quel punto. E certi errori di pagano caramente.
I did the Stelvio in 2018 and was amazed at the amount of traffic. Ok, it was the weekend, but it was ridiculous. There were cars, motorbikes, pushbikes, coaches, and minibuses. And clearly also a lot of people that were clueless when it came to navgating such a road. The traffic was constantly coming to a halt. The problem with this as a motorcyclist is when you are going around a very sharp right hand bend, the camber of the road on your inside, completely falls away. The guy in this video should have waited behind the other bike. With such a massive bike, there was no way that he was going to keep it up once he'd stopped.
In my opinion, the pass should be one way only at peak times. There is no fun in riding it the way it is.
7:28 Extremely ugly buildings at the top of this pass. Why would someone want to devastate this beautiful landscape?
For money. As simple as that. 😊
At the standing still, he should have balanced to the left (center of gravity to the left) because the road goes down to the right.
There is no room for that kind of silly move.
Stelvio is not always crowded. I drove through it on Friday sometime around eight to nine in the evening and I only saw a couple of cars and one cyclist. Btw... Try next time through Passo Umbrail. That's a nicer way.
Looks like you were the only sensible person on the Stelvio that day ;-)
Die Serpentinenstraße am Passo di Stelvio werden immer wieder massiv unterschätzt mit grossen Maschinen. Dank meiner Honda mit DCT - Getriebe konnte ich schon in vielen Situationen mich voll auf die Strasse konzentrieren. Danke Honda.
Dieser Mann war mental und körperlich total überfordert mit dem schweren Motorrad. Ich finde das noch gefährlicher als Alkohol im Strassenverkehr
Ja, Sie haben vollkommen recht, daher schien es mir, als ob er den "Elefanten" in der kritischen Situation, in der er fahrlässig gelandet ist, nur schwer meistern konnte! Ich hoffe, der "google translate" hilft uns weiter!
@@ioanonut3131 Mit einem "Elefanten" (ich habe einen der schwersten, den GTL, und bin damit auf hunderten Hochgebirgspässen problemlos gefahren) kann man so ein Pass auch hochfahren, nur nicht SO. Wahnsinn pur eigentlich...
@@guywerb Ich bin überzeugt, dass man mit einem schweren Motor klettern kann (und meiner ist ziemlich schwierig ST1300 Paneuropäisch), aber es braucht viel Aufmerksamkeit und .... Geduld!Haben Sie gute Straßen und wie man in Rumänien sagt: trockener Asphalt!
@@ioanonut3131 HEHEHE. Die PAN European ist die einfachste Maschine die es gibt. Ich habe eine ST1100 und ich liebe sie. Der Tank ist nicht oben drauf wo man es vermutet. Der ist unter dem Arsch, auf die höhe des Motors. Das gesamte Gewicht ist Asphalt nahe. Um die Maschine zu lenken braucht man die Hände nicht.
@@ioanonut3131Wer hat was "gemeistert"?
That's the loudest I've laughed in years, what was he thinking, could he not see the stopped bikes and the hairpin and if he looked over his shoulder the vehicles coming down!!! Shame he binned such a nice bike.
Bin im Juli mehreren K1600 von Italien kommend gefolgt, ich hielt immer 100 Meter Abstand, mehrere Szenen noch Haarstreubender😢😢😢 dafür nach der Mautstation die großen Spielen😢, leider
Regardless of his impatience, it is the first time I've seen motorcyclists refusing to help another !!!
if riding this roads you will notice that its mostly not possible to park the bikes there whitout problems . thats as well the reason why he fells off
very hard to park a bike on a slope like that
This was a pain to watch. All of it!
Fast and furios! The EGO crash will the biggest damage……
I´l have climb this road several time with my Kawasaki 1600 Classic Tourer , and it has gone well.
I own a GTR 1400 and a VN 1700 Classic, the VN is way easier to handle at low speed and in tight turns.
Get up earlier (7 am.) and you'll enjoy it! Get up late an you'll regret it!
Wenn jemandem etwas passiert, sollte man m. E. helfen anstatt zu filmen. Wie tief sind wir gesunken. Da kann man dann beim Mopedfahren zuküftig auch gerne das grüßen sein lassen.
Kam es Ihnen so vor, als hätte ich die Veranstaltung auf eine besondere Art und Weise gefilmt!?
Wenn Sie sich den Film aufmerksam angesehen hätten, wäre Ihnen aufgefallen, dass ich mit einem Passagier auf der Rückbank und geladenem Motor nicht sicher anhalten konnte.
Und die Kamera war auf dem Helm meiner Frau und ich habe nicht zum Vergnügen fotografiert
Ich habe hier nur gepostet, um zu zeigen, was manche Menschen in Eile in Gegenden tun, in denen der Verkehr Geduld erfordert.
Dir geht es wahrscheinlich wie dem K1600 und du kritisierst, ohne es zu wissen!
Und wenn man den Film bis zum Ende gesehen hat, konnte man sehen, dass ich versucht habe, einen sicheren Ort zum Anhalten zu suchen, aber in der Zwischenzeit haben ihm andere geholfen.
Es ist einfach, vor dem Fernseher zu reden! Frieden! und gute Straßen